So i thought that the Tea party was a huge deal in the new world where a bunch of people got invited… Whether or not who comes i had assumed that most people at least knew about it. Did i read a bad translation or something?
Chapter 837: Luffy vs Commander Cracker
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So i thought that the Tea party was a huge deal in the new world where a bunch of people got invited… Whether or not who comes i had assumed that most people at least knew about it. Did i read a bad translation or something?
What was implied was that whoever received an invitation cannot denied it, it hasn't been stated who was invited or how many characters will assist but I do expect to see a few familiar faces.
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I see the tea party as the new dressrosa arena colosseum. Luffy got 5600 fleet from that arena, considering the superior force BM has, this tea party can be used for luffy to get, what he does best, new allies.
Old ''friends'' showing up is not unlikely, with the warlords system on a string, the star clown and his army of ID guys could search for new allies, crocodile should be in the NW too. Heck, maybe BM invites random people from NW that made a name and are not related yet to any of the yonkous. Kinda like vinsmokes.
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So i thought that the Tea party was a huge deal in the new world where a bunch of people got invited… Whether or not who comes i had assumed that most people at least knew about it. Did i read a bad translation or something?
What we know about the Tea Parties so far is that
A. Big Mom seems to have them pretty frequently. At least two have been brought up so far since the timeskip(one a few days after Fishman Island, and the Vinsmoke wedding)
B. An invitation to her party is pretty much a threat. Failure to appear when invited means you'll feel the wrath of Big Mom.
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If we do the math:
Luffy > Doflamingo > Jozz
It doesn't seem absurd if Luffy beats a Yonkou's commander.But don't think this is how it works.
Also, people believing Luffy will gang up with some supernovas to defeat Kaido, remember what Luffy the wisest once said:
"Wha… that's so far in the futu..."
@BeariousJones:http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/15
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/17So is this house the way out of the Seducing Woods?
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/831/18
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/835/16Pound was actually trying to help the SH to get out of the woods (there is a waterfall of apple juice next to the house ).
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@John:
If we do the math:
Luffy > Doflamingo > Jozz
It doesn't seem absurd if Luffy beats a Yonkou's commander.This doesn't sound accurate. You're making way too much deductions.
I'm not sure how Viz translated, but despite his appearance, Urouge has a pretty polite speech style even when he is talking to an enemy. Perhaps it is one of the main reasons why many Japanese love him
I don't have access to Viz; I have the French (Glénat) version of One Piece. I don't remember Urouge sounding particularly polite in it; thanks for the info! Could it be due to his background?
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That's awesome, John Doe. So Pound tried to help the Strawhats the whole time, perhaps that is. And he helped Nami from Brulee. It seems like Pound will become the "guide character" to help Luffy and crew through Whole Cake Island.
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Can we get another 10 chapters of forest please?
Yeah, you get excited watching paint dry.
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Because there is certainly more exciting things outside of the forest than Luffy fighting Cracker and Nami fighting Brulee like….Huuuuuh...Sanji sulking?
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Because there is certainly more exciting things outside of the forest than Luffy fighting Cracker and Nami fighting Brulee like….Huuuuuh...Sanji sulking?
To be fair, Brook and Pedro's espionage adventures, Jinbe's deal with Big Mom, Sanji's morbid sitcom family issues, and Bege's Godfather antics are all exciting plot threads that I can't wait to see once the Straw Hats escape the forest. Not that I complained at all about the forest or think it's a waste of time like Screwtape redundantly has, mind you.
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Yeah, you get excited watching paint dry.
Since the apple juice guy is out maybe he will lead out of the forest next chapter.Real talk why are people so annoyed by the forrest? People were hating it as soon as they landed?
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Yeah, you get excited watching paint dry.
Since the apple juice guy is out maybe he will lead out of the forest next chapter.Make that 20 more chapters.
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Real talk why are people so annoyed by the forrest? People were hating it as soon as they landed?
You'll notice these people are all dumb. Few more than Screwtape.
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@John:
If we do the math:
Luffy > Doflamingo > Jozz
It doesn't seem absurd if Luffy beats a Yonkou's commander.But don't think this is how it works.
Also, people believing Luffy will gang up with some supernovas to defeat Kaido, remember what Luffy the wisest once said:
"Wha… that's so far in the futu..."http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/831/18
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/835/16Pound was actually trying to help the SH to get out of the woods (there is a waterfall of apple juice next to the house ).
He was trying to help the, without causing a scene / getting made an enemy. What a guy, he even threw a punch at brulee, which helped nami light her up.
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What we know about the Tea Parties so far is that
A. Big Mom seems to have them pretty frequently. At least two have been brought up so far since the timeskip(one a few days after Fishman Island, and the Vinsmoke wedding)
B. An invitation to her party is pretty much a threat. Failure to appear when invited means you'll feel the wrath of Big Mom.
I thought that they were the same one and it just got pushed back? Man apparently i am full of misinformation :blink:
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Real talk why are people so annoyed by the forrest? People were hating it as soon as they landed?
It’s only 2 or 3 people. People who are annoyed by people who are annoyed by the forest are much more numerous and honestly both types are equally annoying to me.
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It’s only 2 or 3 people. People who are annoyed by people who are annoyed by the forest are much more numerous and honestly both types are equally annoying to me.
Is screwtape in the forest-haters group? I feel like more than anything, bashing One Piece is like sneezing to them at this point - completely involuntary. So the forest bashing just came under the crossfire of that.
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What we know about the Tea Parties so far is that
A. Big Mom seems to have them pretty frequently. At least two have been brought up so far since the timeskip(one a few days after Fishman Island, and the Vinsmoke wedding)
I'm confused now. Aren't these one and the same? Not much story time has passed since the Straw Hats left Fishman Island (I was under the impression that it's been barely two weeks)
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I'm confused now. Aren't these one and the same? Not much story time has passed since the Straw Hats left Fishman Island (I was under the impression that it's been barely two weeks)
It's the same tea party. oda probably made a mistake with numbers and it's not the first time. also the bomb hasn't been opened yet so it's the same tea party tamago was talking about.
It’s only 2 or 3 people. People who are annoyed by people who are annoyed by the forest are much more numerous and honestly both types are equally annoying to me.
i've been anoyed by the forest, honestly it's boring and objectively not good. the fight against cracker was just luffy punching until the punch was strong enough. The forest chapters in Skypiea were a lot better and eventful also the artwork was cleaner and better to look at.
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I'm confused now. Aren't these one and the same? Not much story time has passed since the Straw Hats left Fishman Island (I was under the impression that it's been barely two weeks)
Nope they aren't! There was one that happened some days after the events of Fishman Island and now the Sanji Marriage will happen in around 2 days.
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Nope they aren't! There was one that happened some days after the events of Fishman Island and now the Sanji Marriage will happen in around 2 days.
we can't know for sure. it's probably just a mistake in the timeline, no big deal. the treasures (and the bomb) from fishman island replaced the sweets for Big mom and all that were meant to be used in the upcoming tea party that Tamogo was talking about, so it's the same.
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we can't know for sure. it's probably just a mistake in the timeline, no big deal. the treasures (and the bomb) from fishman island replaced the sweets for Big mom and all that were meant to be used in the upcoming tea party that Tamogo was talking about, so it's the same.
Why would the treasure be meant to be used in a Tea Party? LOL
They exchanged the treasure for the Candy that would be used in that Tea Party, but they are in the end 2 different things. And as such they don't have to be done in the same time(eat candy and open treasure), in fact the treasure could very well just be stored for later usage. Also note how there was never said in-story when the treasure would be used.There is no "can't know for sure". It was literally said when that Tea Party was to happen(and Big Mom was with huge expectation for it, to the point she ate her homies and was salivating non stop), and now there is another date for the current one. These 2 Tea Parties have no connection with each other or anything that could suggest about that.
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Why would the treasure be meant to be used in a Tea Party? LOL
They exchanged the treasure for the Candy that would be used in that Tea Party, but they are in the end 2 different things. And as such they don't have to be done in the same time(eat candy and open treasure), in fact the treasure could very well just be stored for later usage. Also note how there was never said in-story when the treasure would be used.There is no "can't know for sure". It was literally said when that Tea Party was to happen(and Big Mom was with huge expectation for it, to the point she ate her homies and was salivating non stop), and now there is another date for the current one. These 2 Tea Parties have no connection with each other or anything that could suggest about that.
the same way they are going to be used in the upcoming tea party…a plot point to awaken Big's mom warth towards Luffy and/or Jinbe...
i mean, it just makes sense that the tea party Tamogo was talking about is the same tea party that we are going to witness. it was foreshadowing. With all the preparations, sweet and food gathering, invitations for people from all over the world, the tea party is probably not something that happen every week but a few times in the year.
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is this a Tea Party or a wedding ?
or is there a Tea Party in the wedding too ?confused.
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the same way they are going to be used in the upcoming tea party…a plot point to awaken Big's mom warth towards Luffy and/or Jinbe...
i mean, it just makes sense that the tea party Tamogo was talking about is the same tea party that we are going to witness. it was foreshadowing. With all the preparations, sweet and food gathering, invitations for people from all over the world, the tea party is probably not something that happen every week but a few times in the year.
"the same way they are going to be used in the upcoming tea party…a plot point to awaken Big's mom warth towards Luffy and/or Jinbe..." -> Doesn't change the fact that the treasure isn't meant to be used in the Tea Party. As a plot point it can be used anywhere, even in a Tea Party, but still a Tea Party isn't a place where you gather treasure and open treasure chests. So there is no reason that the chest with the explosive had to be used in that exact Tea Party. In fact, we don't even know if the explosion already happened or not.
The only point about the chest is that somewhere in time after Tamago and Pekoms arrived near Big Mom, it could explode on her face and cause a War. Not that the chest is strongly connected with that exact Tea Party."it just makes sense that the tea party Tamogo was talking about is the same tea party that we are going to witness. it was foreshadowing." -> Hum, Nope! It can very well be just a foreshadowing of the existence of Tea Parties.
Note that until that point there was no knowledge that Sanji was Germa 66 heir, that was only confirmed after Dressrossa events, and it was at that time that the marriage and the Tea Party was decided. Just like Pekoms said, when he met Sanji in Zou the orders were different from the ones during Dressrossa. In Zou was giving Caesar and take Sanji and the Crew to the Tea Party, during Dressrossa was to take Caesar and eliminate the people with him.**"**With all the preparations, sweet and food gathering, invitations for people from all over the world, the tea party is probably not something that happen every week but a few times in the year." -> Doesn't matter, this one is happening because is Sanji and Pudding Marriage. Even if Big Mom only does 1 Tea Party every 4 years, this time is an exception.
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is this a Tea Party or a wedding ?
or is there a Tea Party in the wedding too ?confused.
The wedding is the Tea Party. They are both the same, or said you could say that both things merged into a new thing, a "Tea Wedding"(:P).
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Doesn't change the fact that the treasure isn't meant to be used in the Tea Party. As a plot point it can be used anywhere, even in a Tea Party, but still a Tea Party isn't a place where you gather treasure and open treasure chests.
but you don't know that. maybe Big mom has the habbit to open the gifts she receive during a tea party.
So there is no reason that the chest with the explosive had to be used in that exact Tea Party.
but it is going to be opened during the tea party so why are you questioning something that obvious, i don't understand.
In fact, we don't even know if the explosion already happened or not.
obviously not, it would have been mentioned and from a story perspective it's better to see it at the current time.
The only point about the chest is that somewhere in time after Tamago and Pekoms arrived near Big Mom, it could explode on her face and cause a War. Not that the chest is strongly connected with that exact Tea Party.
it is strongly connected to the tea party because the treasures replaced the sweets from fishman island which were meant to be used during the tea party. you are going to tell me again that it's not connected to the tea party until we see big mom opening the chest during the tea party.
Note that until that point there was no knowledge that Sanji was Germa 66 heir, that was only confirmed after Dressrossa events, and it was at that time that the marriage and the Tea Party was decided. Just like Pekoms said, when he met Sanji in Zou the orders were different from the ones during Dressrossa. In Zou was giving Caesar and take Sanji and the Crew to the Tea Party, during Dressrossa was to take Caesar and eliminate the people with him.
and you have absolutely no proof that the tea party you are talking about happened. it could have been postponed for various reasons such as Sanji's marriage and Germa 66 connections. which is why I said we can't know for sure.
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i've been anoyed by the forest, honestly it's boring and objectively not good. the fight against cracker was just luffy punching until the punch was strong enough. The forest chapters in Skypiea were a lot better and eventful also the artwork was cleaner and better to look at.
You are free to like and dislike what you want to. It's not a problem for me.
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but you don't know that. maybe Big mom has the habbit to open the gifts she receive during a tea party.
but it is going to be opened during the tea party so why are you questioning something that obvious, i don't understand.
obviously not, it would have been mentioned and from a story perspective it's better to see it at the current time.
it is strongly connected to the tea party because the treasures replaced the sweets from fishman island which were meant to be used during the tea party. you are going to tell me again that it's not connected to the tea party until we see big mom opening the chest during the tea party.
and you have absolutely no proof that the tea party you are talking about happened. it could have been postponed for various reasons such as Sanji's marriage and Germa 66 connections. which is why I said we can't know for sure.
The same way you say we can't know for sure, is the same way about any of your arguments.
- "maybe Big mom has the habbit to open the gifts she receive during a tea party."
- "but it is going to be opened during the tea party so why are you questioning something that obvious, i don't understand."
- "obviously not, it would have been mentioned and from a story perspective it's better to see it at the current time."
If something is said to happen in a given time in the story, than we readers must assume it will in fact happen, or happened, in that time. Just like a person is innocent until be proved the opposite, a date given in the story is correct until something says in opposition. Assuming that every data given in the story as dubious until is shown makes basically everything an unknown, and is one of the main reasons for stupid theories, that this community loves to make.
Was the party said to happen in some days(don't remember how much) after Fishman Island? Yep, it was. Has the story said anything that contradicted or said that is false? Nope. Hearing about a Tea Party that will happen in another date, in any way collides with that fact.
You talking about the possibility of that Tea Party being postponed, is the same as any other possibility in any other thing. In the end we can always go for the anything is possible state of mind.
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Was the party said to happen in some days(don't remember how much) after Fishman Island? Yep, it was. Has the story said anything that contradicted or said that is false? Nope. Hearing about a Tea Party that will happen in another date, in any way collides with that fact.
of course it collides when the events have the exact same names and happen in such little time
You talking about the possibility of that Tea Party being postponed, is the same as any other possibility in any other thing. In the end we can always go for the anything is possible state of mind.
that i agree.
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I kind of love how Oda builds up Luffys training effects. How meaningful timeskip was and how much satisfaction I have seeing Luffy go at it with what he has now.
While he is not on par with likes of top commanders of Yonkou crew, witthout his Gear Fourth that is, he still can whoop somebodys ass with so much heart and such unique silly looking yet badass techniques.
As for Gear Second - now I like to think that it is just a small boost in general compared to gear second from before timeskip. For now Gear Fourth does not feel as as much of a boost as Gear Second when for example Luffy fought Lucci.
I kind of love it because it makes Luffys fight with Lucci and overusing Gear Second far more meaningful - when I look at panels where Luffy smacks Lucci with pistol or gattling at end of their fight I feel like he is putting into it absolutely every fiber of his body. We are very far from seeing Luffy giving same impression even now as he is going "all out" simply by using his new trump technique that Gear Fourth is.
I imagine he will need to go absolutely crazy earliest at latter part of vs Kaido arc.
Same with others like Zoro or Sanji. By all means if Luffy is able to beat Cracker within next chapter they should be able to put down over 500mln pirates as well(I know that Bounty does not equal strength but it kind of shows caliber of a pirate). Zoro should be able to beat somebody like Cracker so it means that Sanji should not be far behind. After what I seen from Luffy since latter part of Dressrosa I am extremely interested in seeing what Sanji is holding back and I think that Oda is building up that reveal ever since Punk Hazard.
I simply cannot wait for rest of this arc and whatever will happen beyond it.
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I simply cannot wait for rest of this arc and whatever will happen beyond it.
I want to see Sanji and Zoro go all out sooooo bad. I still think Luffy has another trick up his sleeve but i am satisfied by Gear fourth for now but Sanji and Zoro have been polar opposites since the TS Sanji is getting beat by everyone and their mother and Zoro has not even had a real challenge.
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VIZ/Mangastream comparisons, let's go! Lots of dialogue this chapter = lots of noteworthy comparisons.
- As usual, Mangastream crams a lot more words into some of the speech bubbles (like Brulée's speech to Nami) than VIZ does. Since there seemed to be quite a few questions about it, I'll just include the whole thing:
[HIDE]But I understand! You just got scared, didn't you?! Wi wi wi…Worst Generation?! Big whoop! So you had your fun on the first half of the Grand Line. Well, I've seen countless faces of despair from lesser crew members like you, who were all so certain that their captain would be the one to claim the Pirate King's mantle! Many of them have wandered into Mama's domain these past two years! Captain Kidd! "Roar of the Sea" Apoo! Bege the Gangster! Urouge the Mad Monk!
Aside from Bege, who wisely recognized his danger and joined our forces, they were all tossed out like the lightweights they are, without even catching a glimpse or hearing a word from Mama! The only one who managed to get anywhere was Urouge! The impertinent boy managed to topple one of our generals! Not long ago, they were the Sweet 4, wi wi wi! But that was as far as he got! Mama was so furious she sent Cracker to crush him! There is no escape! I'm sure he's breathing his last breath somewhere or other!
Listen to me! This is where you hit a brick wall in the New World! Fight the Four Emperors?! You must be dreaming! You'll never see Mama! Infiltrate the tea party?! Stop the wedding?! Take back your comrade?! All a dream within a dream! You will never even hope to catch sight of Mama's face! You will die in this forest! Now come into my Mirro-World! I'll have plenty of time to rip up your face and body there…[/HIDE]- Brulée, before correcting herself, calls him "Father Pound" instead of "Stepfather Pound" in VIZ, although he technically is her stepfather.
- When Pound says Brulée will show up again, he says that she can appear "from anywhere with a mirror", instead of "anywhere there's a mirror." That could be taken to mean the exact same thing, but it also could mean that, thanks to her mirror, she can appear anywhere.
- Instead of Nami apologizing for dragging Pound into their mess, she says "Sorry you had to go through that, Pound!" Pound replies with, "It's fine…after all, my own ex-wife said I could be killed..."
- The panel where some of the sweets are panicking and the others are calming them down says, "Oh crap! Master's Cracker's poppin' off!" "Hey! Don't get so spread apart that you forget your Seducing Woods duties!"
- Luffy doesn't say that Cracker's Armament Haki is "harder than anything [he's] come across" in VIZ, but that it's simply "too hard."
- Similar to above, Cracker's speech to Luffy in VIZ:
[HIDE]If you think of Vinsmoke Sanji as your comrade, then let him go. He is the prince of a mighty nation. His status is far greater than yours! He will have a proud wife and live here with his every desire catered to! You selfishly claim that you will "take back" your friend, rather than allowing him to be happy?! When his annoying former captain gets to him, that proud prince will no doubt say, "Begone from my sight, you miserable, inferior pirate!"[/HIDE]
- Rather than telling Cracker not to "put words in Sanji's mouth", Luffy just says, "Don't insult Sanji!" for that part.
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Was the party said to happen in some days(don't remember how much) after Fishman Island?
Here, chapter 651. Baron Tamago mentions that the (post-FI arc) Tea Party is to take place in 4 days. However, after the escargophone call with Big Mom it is agreed that the delivery of Fishman Island sweets will be postponed by two weeks.
So either that one Tea Party has come and gone and the wedding's an entirely different event, or it was postponed along with the sweets delivery and in the meantime became Sanji's wedding after papa Vinsmoke learned his dud was still alive and kicking. As far as I know, there hasn't been any element in the story so far that would allow to lean towards one solution or the other.
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Do you guys think luffy improved his time limit for g4 since dressrosa? If he needs it to beat cracker, I don't see how much it will work on BM if he was to rest every 20 minutes…
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@uniaka:
Do you guys think luffy improved his time limit for g4 since dressrosa? If he needs it to beat cracker, I don't see how much it will work on BM if he was to rest every 20 minutes…
Hello. This is why this fight is happening.
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i've been anoyed by the forest, honestly it's boring and objectively not good. the fight against cracker was just luffy punching until the punch was strong enough. The forest chapters in Skypiea were a lot better and eventful also the artwork was cleaner and better to look at.
Just now you realized most of Luffy attacks are punches? And you can't notice that each punch is a different move of his arsenal? And if only 3 random people thinks it is not good then it is hardly objectively not good.
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@uniaka:
Do you guys think luffy improved his time limit for g4 since dressrosa? If he needs it to beat cracker, I don't see how much it will work on BM if he was to rest every 20 minutes…
10 minutes. 20 minutes was the time Luffy was in G4.
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10 minutes. 20 minutes was the time Luffy was in G4.
How do we know this? The 20 minutes thing.
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How do we know this? The 20 minutes thing.
This was after Dofla used his awakening powers.
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i've been anoyed by the forest, honestly it's boring and objectively not good. the fight against cracker was just luffy punching until the punch was strong enough. The forest chapters in Skypiea were a lot better and eventful also the artwork was cleaner and better to look at.
But why is it not good? We've seen fights and learn more about Big Mom's family and crew (Lola, Pound, Cracker, Brulee, and the hare), heard about Big Mom's abilities, and now know what the worst generation were up to. Plus it hasn't even been that long. We took a break from it to focus on Sanji and his family >. >
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VIZ/Mangastream comparisons, let's go! Lots of dialogue this chapter = lots of noteworthy comparisons.- As usual, Mangastream crams a lot more words into some of the speech bubbles (like Brulée's speech to Nami) than VIZ does. Since there seemed to be quite a few questions about it, I'll just include the whole thing:
[HIDE]But I understand! You just got scared, didn't you?! Wi wi wi…Worst Generation?! Big whoop! So you had your fun on the first half of the Grand Line. Well, I've seen countless faces of despair from lesser crew members like you, who were all so certain that their captain would be the one to claim the Pirate King's mantle! Many of them have wandered into Mama's domain these past two years! Captain Kidd! "Roar of the Sea" Apoo! Bege the Gangster! Urouge the Mad Monk!
Aside from Bege, who wisely recognized his danger and joined our forces, they were all tossed out like the lightweights they are, without even catching a glimpse or hearing a word from Mama! The only one who managed to get anywhere was Urouge! The impertinent boy managed to topple one of our generals! Not long ago, they were the Sweet 4, wi wi wi! But that was as far as he got! Mama was so furious she sent Cracker to crush him! There is no escape! I'm sure he's breathing his last breath somewhere or other!
Listen to me! This is where you hit a brick wall in the New World! Fight the Four Emperors?! You must be dreaming! You'll never see Mama! Infiltrate the tea party?! Stop the wedding?! Take back your comrade?! All a dream within a dream! You will never even hope to catch sight of Mama's face! You will die in this forest! Now come into my Mirro-World! I'll have plenty of time to rip up your face and body there…[/HIDE]- Brulée, before correcting herself, calls him "Father Pound" instead of "Stepfather Pound" in VIZ, although he technically is her stepfather.
- When Pound says Brulée will show up again, he says that she can appear "from anywhere with a mirror", instead of "anywhere there's a mirror." That could be taken to mean the exact same thing, but it also could mean that, thanks to her mirror, she can appear anywhere.
- Instead of Nami apologizing for dragging Pound into their mess, she says "Sorry you had to go through that, Pound!" Pound replies with, "It's fine…after all, my own ex-wife said I could be killed..."
- The panel where some of the sweets are panicking and the others are calming them down says, "Oh crap! Master's Cracker's poppin' off!" "Hey! Don't get so spread apart that you forget your Seducing Woods duties!"
- Luffy doesn't say that Cracker's Armament Haki is "harder than anything [he's] come across" in VIZ, but that it's simply "too hard."
- Similar to above, Cracker's speech to Luffy in VIZ:
[HIDE]If you think of Vinsmoke Sanji as your comrade, then let him go. He is the prince of a mighty nation. His status is far greater than yours! He will have a proud wife and live here with his every desire catered to! You selfishly claim that you will "take back" your friend, rather than allowing him to be happy?! When his annoying former captain gets to him, that proud prince will no doubt say, "Begone from my sight, you miserable, inferior pirate!"[/HIDE]
- Rather than telling Cracker not to "put words in Sanji's mouth", Luffy just says, "Don't insult Sanji!" for that part.
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Thanks as always.the most important changes seem to be that Luffy says Cracker's haki is too hard,instead of harder than anything he has ever seen.
so we can stop with the rayleigh comparisons.nevertheless,i would guess that cracker's coa is stronger than dofla.
also,Brulee can appear anywhere WITH a mirror,not anywhere there's a mirror.That part seemed pretty weird to me,that would give Brulee some OP level teleportation powers. -
They're absolutely not the same parties. One was mentioned for the reason of giving tension to the whole Big Mom thing when it started at Fishman Island. Pekoms and Tamago made a point that a Tea Party was in four days and they cut to show her talking about how she was excited because Fishman Island's candy would be there in time for the party.
The second tea party is the wedding itself. It seems this is just a regular occurrence for her, and the way it's presented when explained to Sanji about what happens when one refuses makes it seem like a very frequent event.
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Thanks as always.the most important changes seem to be that Luffy says Cracker's haki is too hard,instead of harder than anything he has ever seen.
so we can stop with the rayleigh comparisons.nevertheless,i would guess that cracker's coa is stronger than dofla.
also,Brulee can appear anywhere WITH a mirror,not anywhere there's a mirror.That part seemed pretty weird to me,that would give Brulee some OP level teleportation powers.How could this be OP (assuming some sort of range limit)? There is a guy, who can create doors everywhere he wants…
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Are people comparing Crackers haki to Rayleighs from that comment.. oh no
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Are people comparing Crackers haki to Rayleighs from that comment.. oh no
Well with Viz's translation, thanks to bellisario, probs not say more
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Guys is there a break this week or are we getting a chapter?? Because I saw someone post in spoiler thread that this was Oda's break and not the WSJ one which was 1 week ago.
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Guys is there a break this week or are we getting a chapter?? Because I saw someone post in spoiler thread that this was Oda's break and not the WSJ one which was 1 week ago.
Sandman confirmed there is a chapter this week.
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Sandman confirmed there is a chapter this week.
Sugoi!! Cant wait for cracker to be cracked by the G4 or its new variant.
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This was after Dofla used his awakening powers.
http://read.powermanga.org/read/one_piece/en/0/785/page/10I'm pretty sure that 20 minutes thing is the time that has passed since Birdcage began shrinking.
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Thanks as always.the most important changes seem to be that Luffy says Cracker's haki is too hard,instead of harder than anything he has ever seen.
I think the fact that there is no indication of Urouge being defeated in the Seducing Woods is pretty important too.
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i've been anoyed by the forest, honestly it's boring and objectively not good. the fight against cracker was just luffy punching until the punch was strong enough. The forest chapters in Skypiea were a lot better and eventful also the artwork was cleaner and better to look at.
There is nothing "objective" about your personal opinion on the forest. Particularly since it picked up in this chapter. Do they need to get out pretty soon to prevent ME from being annoyed? Yes. But right now it's an interesting combination of goofiness, confusion, and difficult obstacles. That's also my opinion, by the way, because I'm in no way narcissistic enough to pass my thoughts off as objective.
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How could this be OP (assuming some sort of range limit)? There is a guy, who can create doors everywhere he wants…
well even with blueno,he had to physically be there to create a door right,i think?and yeah,with some limit it would have been fine but it still would have been a somewhat vague power,and would imply a sort of mirror world which exists and connects all the mirrors.
@parklane21:I think the fact that there is no indication of Urouge being defeated in the Seducing Woods is pretty important too.
how do you get that?urouge was defeated by cracker.i think you may be referring to the fact that urouge is not in the seducing forest.and that i think was self evident,since we saw urouge injured in the sky island and all