I dunno about the importance of the numbering, but Oda has been extremely consistent in showing them, and people make a big deal about "The xth" chapters.
Next Strawhat Crewmate (Vol. 6)
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It's odd that Chopper and Robin still haven't gotten their numbered chapter titles. Kill off Chopper for Vivi?
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Then Vivi turns out to still be pretty jaded, and she kills off Robin so that Carue may be the sixth.
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The only number theory that I am aware of is the Devil Fruit one…can someone fill me in?
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It's odd that Chopper and Robin still haven't gotten their numbered chapter titles. Kill off Chopper for Vivi?
We still have two open spots in the crew Jinbe and someone else is going to join most likely the 3 eyed girl also vivi does not need to join since i can see her getting the alabasta fleet to help the straw hats out she is more useful not joining with her father dying she can get her kingdom to help the straw hats since she will be the queen.
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I believe Gorosei under no circumstances will help one pirate crew to stop another.It doesn't serve their purpose,since the one they are going to help will have high chance to end up with the infos of void century anyway,least probable that the crew are straw-hats who continuously defied their authority.Heck, even BB is better option to them than Luffy(who commands the like of Robin)….
I suspect they have possession of a mass destruction weapon(may be likes of Uranus),which they would unleash if they can't find no other option.These people destroyed Ancient Kingdom who were supposed to be at their pinnacle.So they must had strong secret weapon of their own. -
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They would have to have a conversation about it, just to clear the air. But based on what Oda's showed….no it doesn't sound like Vivi would be vindictive toward Robin.
I dont even think vivi joining is necessary for this type of conversation to happen, but I think it's pretty likely the strawhats and vivi will meet each other again
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I like the idea of the crew finding a devil fruit in Nami's tangerine that's been there for a while because it would be another crazy Oda twist (even though people would have called it) and it'd be an interesting conversation for the crew to have about whether one of them would eat it
They already had this conversation with Ace's fruit. Half the crew are already DF users, Zoro wants to keep pure skill, Franky likes to swim, and Sanji was only interested in the peeping tom invisibility fruit. So it would be a "discussion" of… Nami? I guess she could benefit from it but she just got a climatact upgrade, so...
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It's odd that Chopper and Robin still haven't gotten their numbered chapter titles. Kill off Chopper for Vivi?
I always figured Chopper's number would come up due to him having a chance to stay in some sort of animal kindgom where he fit right in, and lo, Zou fits that bill perfectly. Totally possibly he gets his when they all depart ZOu for good… but that could be a few years after the Wano arc.
As for Robin, she's pretty tied into the revolutionaries. So similar thing, especially now that they've lost their base and its being made even more clear that Robin being able to read ponyglyps is important for even finding Raftel, so she's going to be more heavily desired soon.
Its also possible Oda just goofed and simply didn't give Chopper his number at the time and missed Robin when he was assigning Usopp and Franky.
And really, if he hadn't numbered Usopp then and there we'd have let it all just slide as "sometimes they just don't get the chapter title" but Usopp's led us to assume Oda had grand master plans for the other missing ones. (It also made us question if Robin or Franky was 7 until Brook got his.)
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The only number theory that I am aware of is the Devil Fruit one…can someone fill me in?
Oda enjoys assigning things to the characters for fun, like colors, numbers, jobs they would do if not pirates and every random thing possible.
Some people take this to be important for no reason.
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It's not the same and you know it
What's not the same?
Nakamate theories being spawned as soon as soon as any new character of even marginal importance arrives on the scene?
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Vivi as well as Luffy only hate Crocodile. If Vivi would hate Miss Bloody Sunday, she would also hate everyone in the baroque works, but she has shown compassion to her previous companion Mister 9 and those other baroque agents on whiskey peak. Miss Monday if I remember correctly. The only one she hates is Crocodile.
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What's not the same?
Nakamate theories being spawned as soon as soon as any new character of even marginal importance arrives on the scene?
But Pudding is something special <3
Robby-senpai is agreeing (while joking for sure)
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I believe Gorosei under no circumstances will help one pirate crew to stop another.
That's exactly what the shishibukai system is though.
It doesn't serve their purpose,since the one they are going to help will have high chance to end up with the infos of void century anyway,
If what they are afraid of is simply information on the void century, I mean, most likely they are afraid of something dangerous finding it's way into the wrong hands (3 weapons or even One Piece).
I mean, imagine BB with Pluton in his hands, no country would be safe…
least probable that the crew are straw-hats who continuously defied their authority.Heck, even BB is better option to them than Luffy(who commands the like of Robin)….
Yet, contrary to BB, the strawhats have at least some "allies" in the WG who would vouch for them. Even more so if the extremists in the WG (World nobles, Gorosei, Akainu, etc.) have already been defeated (by Revos and/or Smoker, Fujitora, Kuzan & co. and/or Strawhats grand fleet) in some way.
At that point, especially if BB used the vaccum of power to make a go for Raftel, I believe it's plausible that the remenants of WG and the defeated Gorosei would decide that they're better of backing the Strawhats (who by that time will have proven that they are anything but nefarious)…
But hey, there is a multitude of other ways it could also go down...
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@Monkey:
Oda enjoys assigning things to the characters for fun, like colors, numbers, jobs they would do if not pirates and every random thing possible.
Some people take this to be important for no reason.
I mean, the Devil Fruit numbers thing has been fulfilled by all Straw Hats except the numbers 2 and 9. Along with being addressed by Oda, I'd consider this one of the few Illuminati theories that's legit.
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I mean, the Devil Fruit numbers thing has been fulfilled by all Straw Hats except the numbers 2 and 9. Along with being addressed by Oda, I'd consider this one of the few Illuminati theories that's legit.
Yeah he "addressed" it when a fan presented the theory to him in that SBS. Though his reaction was more like "WTF?!"
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I mean, the Devil Fruit numbers thing has been fulfilled by all Straw Hats except the numbers 2 and 9. Along with being addressed by Oda, I'd consider this one of the few Illuminati theories that's legit.
Maybe. I doubt it actually pans out, but its so utterly ridiculous and yet so perfect that I can't help but wonder if it was intentional. If its not its one of the most oddly specific coincidences in Manga history.
Though I think the missing piece is either Kuma's DF, Kinemon's DF? The former is probably too strong to gel with the crew dynamic (though the Vegapunk connection is a wild card, especially since it opens the possibility that someone else winds up with the Nikyu), and Kinemon is unlikely if not impossible. There's a few more that would also theoretically fit, but I'm forgetting them right now (The Meat-Meat Fruit I think)?
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I always figured Chopper's number would come up due to him having a chance to stay in some sort of animal kindgom where he fit right in, and lo, Zou fits that bill perfectly. Totally possibly he gets his when they all depart ZOu for good… but that could be a few years after the Wano arc.
As for Robin, she's pretty tied into the revolutionaries. So similar thing, especially now that they've lost their base and its being made even more clear that Robin being able to read ponyglyps is important for even finding Raftel, so she's going to be more heavily desired soon.
Its also possible Oda just goofed and simply didn't give Chopper his number at the time and missed Robin when he was assigning Usopp and Franky.
And really, if he hadn't numbered Usopp then and there we'd have let it all just slide as "sometimes they just don't get the chapter title" but Usopp's led us to assume Oda had grand master plans for the other missing ones. (It also made us question if Robin or Franky was 7 until Brook got his.)
I think there's a pair of simpler explanations, which is that giving Chopper a chapter called "The Fifth" on Drum island would have spoiled that Vivi wasn't joining, and Robin's "I'm joining the crew for Realz" moment was in the middle of an arc instead of at the end of it, and giving her a "The Sixth" chapter title there would have felt awkward when she was still cuffed and in custody and most of CP9 was still standing.
I think the reason Usopp got his chapter there was more a way to give official closure to his entire Water 7/Ennies Lobby character arc, rather than a sign that Oda was planning on giving every crew member a chapter title.
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Kuma's fruit is the one that fits but I don't know about Kin or other possibilities. I brought this up awhile ago but ppl kinda dismissed it but since Kuma is no longer 'alive' doe she still have his fruit? I mean it would be redundant to have a robot that has that fruit and then shoots laser beams don't u think?
Tho even if he did 'die' then the fruit would just transfer to the robot similar to a sword 'eating' a fruit right?
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But Pudding is something special <3
Robby-senpai is agreeing (while joking for sure)
Oh, well if the man that's the charizard to my charmeleon is on board then how can I say no?
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Kuma's fruit is the one that fits but I don't know about Kin or other possibilities. I brought this up awhile ago but ppl kinda dismissed it but since Kuma is no longer 'alive' doe she still have his fruit? I mean it would be redundant to have a robot that has that fruit and then shoots laser beams don't u think?
Tho even if he did 'die' then the fruit would just transfer to the robot similar to a sword 'eating' a fruit right?
Yes he still has the devil fruit.
He is technically dead in the sense of being brain dead. His body is still active, thus the body -not the mind/soul- is living. From what was revealed in recent arcs it is when the body dies/destroyed the fruit's power leaves the body and travels to near fruit.
Besides the talk is redundant as we already have the answer = he was technically dead during the Paramount War and we saw him using the paw paw fruit there. So yes he still has the df. -
Yeah he "addressed" it when a fan presented the theory to him in that SBS. Though his reaction was more like "WTF?!"
His response is basically "That surprised me! Why am I surprised? No comment! Next!" which I interpreted as the reader being right on the money. He's done this a few times (Sabo being alive, Issho/Green Bull opposing WG) to let the reader know they're thinking in the right direction, but not openly telling them everything. @Drake_Cloud:
Though I think the missing piece is either Kuma's DF, Kinemon's DF? The former is probably too strong to gel with the crew dynamic (though the Vegapunk connection is a wild card, especially since it opens the possibility that someone else winds up with the Nikyu), and Kinemon is unlikely if not impossible.
I like the idea of Vegapunk getting a weaker version of the Nikyu Nikyu ability with whatever method he used to give the Pacifistas the Pika Pika powers.
And my heart is still set on Kinemon…
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@Monkey:
They would have to have a conversation about it, just to clear the air. But based on what Oda's showed….no it doesn't sound like Vivi would be vindictive toward Robin.
I said she would be either angry or upset about it, I didn't mean that she would be actively vindictive towards Robin.
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The devil fruit numbers thing is wankery a fan noticed that probably wasn't really intentional. But now that it's out there, sure, Oda might try to shape the name of the last character's fruit (if they have one) to match.
It's a case though where the last one fitting the pattern doesn't mean there was always a pattern in mind, since it was made up waaay before the last one (years ahead), and Japanese is structured in a way you can get numbers and weird puns out of a looooot of things.
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It's a case though where the last one fitting the pattern doesn't mean there was always a pattern in mind, since it was made up waaay before the last one (years ahead), and Japanese is structured in a way you can get numbers and weird puns out of a looooot of things.
yeah, I noticed that as well, when I read a little bit into this number theory. For each number there are dozens of syllables.
I also noticed that hito hito no mi is apparently 1-10.
because hitotsu = 1 and to = 10
but why isn't it just hitotsu=1 and hito hito is the 1-1 power, leaving us with an additional 10?or heck
why can't we have two next members with devilfruit powers, whose numbers are 2-2 and 9-9.
or if numbers 1-10 count, why not 0 and 11+?This theory is just tinfoil hat to the extreme.
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Looks like I'm about 800 pages late to this topic, so I might've missed something :ninja:
Anyway, I think Pekoms would be a good addition to the crew due to his shielding ability (something that could fill a bit of a void), okay-enough personality quirks, mink race, and the fact that he might end up disallowed from returning to Big Mom's group. I'd say he'd be the one I'd prefer to join as the first post-Jinbe crew member, though I don't know if he'd have any particular non-fighting job on the ship at all. Seems like there aren't many jobs left since Brooke filled the role of musician, so maybe that's why Luffy's been getting mixed into and out of other fighter groups since then– allowing new "members", but temporarily. (It's not a bad system, honestly.) -
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Looks like I'm about 800 pages late to this topic, so I might've missed something :ninja:
Anyway, I think Pekoms would be a good addition to the crew due to his shielding ability (something that could fill a bit of a void), okay-enough personality quirks, mink race, and the fact that he might end up disallowed from returning to Big Mom's group. I'd say he'd be the one I'd prefer to join as the first post-Jinbe crew member, though I don't know if he'd have any particular non-fighting job on the ship at all. Seems like there aren't many jobs left since Brooke filled the role of musician, so maybe that's why Luffy's been getting mixed into and out of other fighter groups since then– allowing new "members", but temporarily. (It's not a bad system, honestly.)Pekoms is great… But he won't join.
But to filling the void with shielding... Never once there was a void in this area
Guard Point Chopper and Luffy's Gomu powers are best examples... Franky is a damn metal cyborg... Sanji and Zoro has shielded everything thrown at the sunny with mere skills.
So I really dunno see the reason for having a shiels. For what standing in front of the "weak" trio?
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Maybe fighting style, for himself, not the crew? Someone with a shield style would be new to the crew…
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We have super Iron Franky. Wait until he will meet Vegapunk for super shield metal
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@uniaka:
Someone with a shield style would be new to the crew…
I think that chance passed us by when Bartolomeo didn't join. Although Robin could create shields if she had armament haki…
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Yeah, they already got a shield…
… or not.
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I think that chance passed us by when Bartolomeo didn't join. Although Robin could create shields if she had armament haki…
Would be the only "shield" I would have accepted as nakama.
Now we need a lookout… And who would be better as Purin <3
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Would be the only "shield" I would have accepted as nakama.
Now we need a lookout… And who would be better as Purin <3
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Just a jokeThough a lookout/scout is appealing. Lol
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Well, we are talking diamond strength here, and a little more specialized, besides haki and mink stuff. So I think he'd be good
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I could totally see nami or Luffy using pekoms as a shield. That would could be a funny running gag similar to the crew asking chopper for his fur when its cold
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I can see Luffy grabbing Pekoms as a shield like he did with Buggy in the war when Mihawk sent a slash towards him.
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Let's go PEDRO!!!!! Pudding seems more likely though based on Luffy feeling about Sanji marrying.
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Let's go PEDRO!!!!!
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Unique Features no current Strawhat has that Pedro does:
- Prehensile tail (hang upside down, another appendage to attack or hold/use weapons and tools, climbing)
- Claws (shredding, climbing)
- Spots/Stripes (camouflage)
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How about surgeon Law uses his powers on the 3 candidates and makes the new member.(
trumppudding, Pedro, pekoms). The new nakama will have 3 eyes, a turtle shell and would stay in trees all the time. Everyone is happy. -
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How about surgeon Law uses his powers on the 3 candidates and makes the new member.(
trumppudding, Pedro, pekoms). The new nakama will have 3 eyes, a turtle shell and would stay in trees all the time. Everyone is happy.This seriously needs to be in the dumb predictions thread. Not because its stupid but because it made me laugh hard XD
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Team Pedro here! Definitely rooting for a mink to be next nakama, and I would rather have a Jaguar over a freaking Carrot
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Team Pedro here! Definitely rooting for a mink to be next nakama, and I would rather have a Jaguar over a freaking Carrot
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Team Pedro here! Definitely rooting for a mink to be next nakama, and I would rather have a Jaguar over a freaking Carrot
Great news! Go read Volume 17 and you'll see the Strawhat crew gaining a humanoid animal member of the crew.
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Pedro vs Rob Lucci would be epic!The Bearious Jones internet fist bump, also known as the "Kiss of Death" for story ideas.
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@Monkey:
Great news! Go read Volume 17 and you'll see the Strawhat crew gaining a humanoid animal member of the crew.
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The Bearious Jones internet fist bump, also known as the "Kiss of Death" for story ideas.
Monkey King-sama….. destroying internet fist bumps since ever
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@Monkey:
Great news! Go read Volume 17 and you'll see the Strawhat crew gaining a humanoid animal member of the crew.
Are you seriously against a Mink joining because there's already a humanoid animal member within the crew?
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I'm putting down my vote for tarte #28 as the New Nakama. Unique design especially considering the fact that the crew doesn't have a building as a crew mate. It can be a camp site for the crew by providing space from the elements. Also think about the hilarity that can happen, with Luffy wanting to eat it all the time and Franky trying to implement new weapons on it without it's permission. We know it's important because Tomango pointed it out and Sanji was there to see it. It also has so much personality what with the Whip Cream and Strawberries on it. Screw the minks, Tarte #28 is where it's at.
Seriously, I feel like New Nakama discussions are like power level discussions. Talked to death and in the end really doesn't matter that much in the end. We get a new crew member when we do, and retroactively it will all make sense. Now let's see how many people back every new character introduced as potential crewmate material.
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I'm putting down my vote for tarte #28 as the New Nakama. Unique design especially considering the fact that the crew doesn't have a building as a crew mate. It can be a camp site for the crew by providing space from the elements. Also think about the hilarity that can happen, with Luffy wanting to eat it all the time and Franky trying to implement new weapons on it without it's permission. We know it's important because Tomango pointed it out and Sanji was there to see it. It also has so much personality what with the Whip Cream and Strawberries on it. Screw the minks, Tarte #28 is where it's at.
Seriously, I feel like New Nakama discussions are like power level discussions. Talked to death and in the end really doesn't matter that much in the end. We get a new crew member when we do, and retroactively it will all make sense. Now let's see how many people back every new character introduced as potential crewmate material.
Can I recruit you as my crewmate? I'm the future Vampirate King:ninja:
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Are you seriously against a Mink joining because there's already a humanoid animal member within the crew?
Pedro and Chopper look nothing alike. Their only common trait is the fur.Yes, because Oda is going to be more varied than that at this point. Whoever is last is going to look unique, and have a lot more defining features and design details.
Pedro is just… kinda generic. He's a cat guy. So is Carrot. SHe's a rabbit girl. Pekoms is the most visually interesting of the three for a lot of reasons, and he ain't joining either. There's no major scars, or trinkets, or unique hairstyles, or specialty eyes, or unusual traits to them. Oda didn't spend any time designing them, they're just a generic animal person like all the other generic animal persons on the island.
Cripes, the animal person we already have started with a blue nose, an unusual hat, broken antler, and SEVEN FORMS. And had Luffy interested in him immediately. (As a food source, sure, but immediate interest and interaction.) Then he immediately got a personal flashback followed by a personal fight and Luffy making star eyes at him.
Meanwhile Luffy has had zero reaction to any of the minks other than "hey, they're all like Chopper!" LUFFY HIMSELF, and by extension, Oda, said this. "It's a whole island of Choppers."
So no. None of the minks at current measure up to Chopper. At all.
If Pedro was the ONLY one coming along, or he'd made more of a presence during the Zou arc, or Luffy seemed super enthused to have him along, or if he had an unusual name that wasn't a pun like everyone else, it'd be one thing. But he didn't. He's just there to be counterpoint to Pekoms. And Carrot is there too. He's just one mink among many. If anything, Wanda has a stronger bond with the Strawhats than any of them Or Nekomamushi who had among the strongest story point, presence and design, and a song from Brook about him. Heck, Sicilian was also a cat guy on Zou who had a much more unique haircut, mustache, clothing style, and used a muskateer sword. ANd he was championed as a NN for no reason too.
The minks are allies. Not crewmembers. The whole lot of them.
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I agree that potential SH will most likely be unique, but maybe Oda is not so adamant about it as we are.
It's ok that Nami and Zoro original designs look uninspired because back then Oda was still building OP world and there wasn't a way to measure what the designs of the characters in general would look like. The problem is when he had the chance to redesign the SH during the time-skip and he actually made Robin look (ncredibly) generic instead of more unique.
TS!Robin looks as generic as any background character, even the Nami clones in general are more unique than she is, and that' a SH design done while the manga was half-way through. If he didn't care making Robin look generic at this point, why a new SH needs to look completely and undeniably unique in every aspect?
It's understandable that Zoro and Nami still don't look that unique after the time-skip because their base designs were simple and Oda had to work with that, but there is no excuse with Robin.EDIT: And when a new character appears and people say "yes, the design is new and all, but you can tell by looking at it that Oda didn't spent a lot of time thinking about this design"… well, that's exactly how I feel about Jinbe. Jinbe may not look like other characters, but his character design is not really outstanding. He is cool and all, but that's all, it's a good fishman design just like any other named fishman/merfolk (Neptune, the princes, Hody, even Hody goons...).