No, not Drake
Well, I know that's not Drake. That's Kid. As I stated in the first paragraph of my post. What I meant was Drake we know already works under/for Kaido.
No, not Drake
Well, I know that's not Drake. That's Kid. As I stated in the first paragraph of my post. What I meant was Drake we know already works under/for Kaido.
I know it has been a Day since Bartolomeo left the crew and yet we know that Jack was in communication with Apoo (Who last chapter reportied losing it-the communication). If the whole individuals involved in Doflamingo's take down are taken as enemies of Kaidou then it would make sense to have some of them be captured by him. We also need to remember that the seven representatives of the Mugiwara fleet will do something that will be engrained in history, I doubt Oda has another 20 years to set thee up, so arranging preparations since now can be possible.
I need to be honest I cant see the design of the pants veryy clear behind those bars, but the ruffle could be pointing also towards bartolomeo being captured. Just a loose tought that I would like to share with everyone.
I think ten days passed since the SH left Dressroba till they got to Zou.
All right, VIZ is out! Let's see what they have to say this chapter:
Hope this is helpful!
- The whole "Kid's leg" thing: it's still hard to see the actual pattern on the pants, but I'm like 99% sure that those are, indeed, somebody's leg and boot. Still can't tell who it actually it for sure, but you're probably not supposed to be able to. There are also some dark spots on the floor behind the bars that showed up better in VIZ. (Blood?)
Hope this is helpful!
Can you possibly screen shot that panel from the Viz version? That'd be super helpful/appreciated.
I saw a version posted somewhere else pointing out a possible cross that looks like the one from Hawkins neck-chest area and would like to confirm with a better scan.
Can you possibly screen shot that panel from the Viz version? That'd be super helpful/appreciated.
I saw a version posted somewhere else pointing out a possible cross that looks like the one from Hawkins neck-chest area and would like to confirm with a better scan.
Here is the panel in the viz version:
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It’s still not entirely clear if its Kid or not, but I think I can make out the details of Kid’s belt buckles and fur coat:
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This is Vergo's legs all over again
Here is the panel in the viz version:
[hide] [/hide]It’s still not entirely clear if its Kid or not, but I think I can make out the details of Kid’s belt buckles and fur coat:
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Thank you! It's way better than the other scans, imo. The second version you linked with the belt buckle or w/e was what some other person thought was the cross on Hawkins neck, but I'm still convinced it's Kid..
Here it's when you have to know Kid's wardrobe… or Killer'. Or Hawkins? :blink:
Galaxy, are we going to get the missing 10 chapters?
Galaxy, are we going to get the missing 10 chapters?
Yes. They're being worked on parallel to the new weekly chapters.
@Galaxy:
Yes. They're being worked on parallel to the new weekly chapters.
You guys have done an excelent job, and with Aohige's absence and Greg's ocassional visits, your releases are very much needed!!!
Can you possibly screen shot that panel from the Viz version? That'd be super helpful/appreciated.
I saw a version posted somewhere else pointing out a possible cross that looks like the one from Hawkins neck-chest area and would like to confirm with a better scan.
Thank you! It's way better than the other scans, imo. The second version you linked with the belt buckle or w/e was what some other person thought was the cross on Hawkins neck, but I'm still convinced it's Kid..
Yeah, sorry about that. I wanted to include it with my post, but since VIZ is licensed, I know you're not allowed to share whole pages of it on here (both legal reasons and forum rules). But I'm never sure about the rules for partial-page screenshots. So it is okay to post panels or parts of them? If so, I'll remember that for the future.
@Galaxy:
Yes. They're being worked on parallel to the new weekly chapters.
Thanks very much.
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With Zou wrapping up, and someone requesting it earlier, I thought it'd be a good time for another Abridged. Probably the least amount of time and effort on this one… but hey, that makes for variety too, right? ...Nah.
One Piece Abridged: Chapter 821
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Raftel is the intersection of two lines. You need two points to draw each line. So you need 4 islands.
You would need less islands if there were any other conditions. But there aren't. Don't mind me if it was just part of your jokes.
Here is the panel in the viz version:
[hide] http://i.imgur.com/zYanNwi.png?1[/hide]It’s still not entirely clear if its Kid or not, but I think I can make out the details of Kid’s belt buckles and fur coat:
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I does look a lot more like Kid to me.
Looking at the pattern, we can discern that it isn't Hawkins (his seem more plaid last I recall), and BArto would be far too random, especially concerning who Kaidou is talking to and concerning that Kidd and Apoo got along about as well as a cat and a banana.
Cats fucking hate bananas.
So chances of picking up off where last chapter ended, and seeing some Kaido stuff, some Apoo, Kidd, Hawkins stuff (maybe a Calamity…) etc.?
Well, it does seem like showing what's going with other groups of people happens a lot at the beginning/end of arcs (e.g. end of Punk Hazard/beginning of Dressrosa, end of Dressrosa/ beginning of Zou), so I'd guess we'll probably get some more information about Kidpookins (or ex-Kidpookins) soon. I'm also wondering if at least part of next chapter will be spent explaining more about the Voice of All Things (which could happen while the Minks are packing Luffy his food and making Kin'emon's vivre card), or if they'll just jump straight to Luffy's group leaving.
His title + the fact that people says that in one-on-one fight, he will always be the victor.
Maybe he's not THE strongest, that would the final villain but Kaidou is at least at the very top of the One Piece world
So yeah, if Luffy beats him in 1 vs 1 then i don't see any challenge left outside Blackbeard.
Or Oda goes full retard and pull ennemies 10 times stronger than the emperors out of his ass
he is only the strongest creature which hints that he is not human and he has lost tons of times so he is not the strongest living thing in the world if i was a insect i could be the strongest insect in the world but it does not mean i would survive from someone stepping on me then you also have other strongest in the world such as mihawk being strongest swordman,whitebeard being the strongest man in world after roger died since he got a draw with roger.
kaido is a pirate so the best title for kaido to get is pirate king.
Raftel is the intersection of two lines. You need two points to draw each line. So you need 4 islands. You would need less islands if there were any other conditions. But there aren't. Don't mind me if it was just part of your jokes.
with just 3 islands and not 4 you could be able to find raftel by just going in a straight line from one of those islands to the next in a straight line. Somewhere in that triangle must be raftel. You could even try that with only 2 islands, and maybe be lucky that you got 2 opposing islands so raftel would be somewhere between the two
with just 3 islands and not 4 you could be able to find raftel by just going in a straight line from one of those islands to the next in a straight line. Somewhere in that triangle must be raftel
Assuming that all the locations are normal overseas islands. What if a Road Poneglyph points to a sky island and/or an undersea island like Fishman Island?
Or even just at different specific points above or below sea level?
with just 3 islands and not 4 you could be able to find raftel by just going in a straight line from one of those islands to the next in a straight line. Somewhere in that triangle must be raftel. You could even try that with only 2 islands, and maybe be lucky that you got 2 opposing islands so raftel would be somewhere between the two
More informed individuals, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the term used for Kaidou 'strongest creature', in Japanese that is, refer to all living things including humans?
More informed individuals, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the term used for Kaidou 'strongest creature', in Japanese that is, refer to all living things including humans?
He's definitely differentiated from World's Strongest Man, which is what Whitebeard was called. Vic names Kaido the King of Beasts.
Oda wouldn't have made them four, if one only needed three…
Oda wouldn't have made them four, if one only needed three…
Yes, I agree.
@Forestry:
with just 3 islands and not 4 you could be able to find raftel by just going in a straight line from one of those islands to the next in a straight line. Somewhere in that triangle must be raftel. You could even try that with only 2 islands, and maybe be lucky that you got 2 opposing islands so raftel would be somewhere between the two
We went over this in the 818 thread. That might be true if the four locations indicated on the Road Poneglyphs are all islands. Even then it's a bit of a stretch, because in order to sail in a triangle between three of them, you would have to be able to navigate there, and it's highly unlikely that the Log Pose at each of those islands would conveniently point you towards the next one. In other words, you probably wouldn't know how to get from one island to the next.
But then an even bigger problem comes in when you consider that the Road Poneglyphs each just give a geographic location that may not be an island. Some of those locations could be in the middle of the sea, and in fact, the "X marks the spot" diagram (which was an example) in 818 specifically showed at least one of those points being in the water, indicating that that's a strong possibility. In other words, if you were gonna do the triangle method, you might have to sail around between two islands and one specific spot in the ocean, or even one island and two specific spots in the ocean. It'd be almost impossible to know if you even successfully got to that correct ocean spot in the first place, and trying to navigate between them would be equally hard. As opposed to, if you have all four coordinates, you just have sail to one spot: the one in the center of the four. Maybe not necessarily easy per se, depending on where that spot is, but at least it's doable.
with just 3 islands and not 4 you could be able to find raftel by just going in a straight line from one of those islands to the next in a straight line. Somewhere in that triangle must be raftel. You could even try that with only 2 islands, and maybe be lucky that you got 2 opposing islands so raftel would be somewhere between the two
No you wouldn't.
If the coordinate depended on only 3 points, then yeah, with 3 you could, but if you have 4 points, whatever asumptions you have over where the last one could be wrong. They don't form a perfect square, they could be in any configuration.
I really feel like I should do a video of this thing, it's getting annoying.
with just 3 islands and not 4 you could be able to find raftel by just going in a straight line from one of those islands to the next in a straight line. Somewhere in that triangle must be raftel. You could even try that with only 2 islands, and maybe be lucky that you got 2 opposing islands so raftel would be somewhere between the two
you still will need all 4 island to find it.
http://s9.postimg.org/5msg0zbz3/raftel2.png
With Zou wrapping up, and someone requesting it earlier, I thought it'd be a good time for another Abridged. Probably the least amount of time and effort on this one… but hey, that makes for variety too, right? ...Nah.
One Piece Abridged: Chapter 821
The tongue remark made me giggle.
But look what your insensitivity has brought on! You should have foreseen your joke would raise another discussion about points of intersection. :ninja:
I think Bartolomeo at least could show up at Tea Party( if not the fleet). He noticed something strange with sanji's alive bounty, he just left luffy at Zou and now he finds out about the tea party? Also with big mom's likely reputation and that crews that marry her join under her, I would be surprised if he doesn't go there to see if Sanji is in trouble or something. Good thing he has his grandma as navigator. Didn't he also mention he wants to meet the other SHs he didn't see in Dressrosa? Another reason to go there since that half would be there( nami, chopper, sanji, brook).
if it's kidd held by that cage, that shows up how strong a yonko is, 4 of the 11 supernovas (including the one with the highest bounty at that time) weren't able to get away from kaido alone. defeating his full army should be freakin huge.
that's what luffy is up to.
yes I know, it could be appoo betrayed and things like that, still that's impressive to me. if oda made this just to hype kaido, at least it worked for me.
The tongue remark made me giggle.
But look what your insensitivity has brought on! You should have foreseen your joke would raise another discussion about points of intersection. :ninja:
Haha, I wouldn't have even noticed if you didn't say anything since I wasn't quoted and didn't return to this topic.
All I had to say about it (besides more disclaimers, i.e. "who knows what physical troubles there are with sailing or finding it at the actual end of the grand line") was in the image that went along with that topic:
The Abridged was just a wrap-up (including a little rehashing) because I didn't want to abridge spanning more than one arc at a time later.
Well, there is yet a perfect "X" on Grandline map : it's on Reverse Mountain. Having the X right under our nose from the start would be soooo Oda-like ;-)
you still will need all 4 island to find it. http://s9.postimg.org/5msg0zbz3/raftel2.png
that image prove that what i say is right, you just need to go in a straight line from each red point to the next, and the purple X will be in some point of that travel. I can't read all the chapters threads so i missed this previous discussion… the fact that a point could be in the middle of the sea shouldn't be a problem for a good navigator such as nami, even with no GPS one could use stars to navigate precisely. But when you add the possibility that raftel, or some of the points could be above or below sea level, then my technique would be not an option. also one could be in raftel and not know it, i think this will be the case in the actual story... raftel will be in a known country that has another name and ppl will be like "it was here all along????"
if it's kidd held by that cage, that shows up how strong a yonko is, 4 of the 11 supernovas (includinhhg the one with the highest bounty at that time) weren't able to get away from kaido alone. defeating his full army should be freakin huge.
that's what luffy is up to.
yes I know, it could be appoo betrayed and things like that, still that's impressive to me. if oda made this just to hype kaido, at least it worked for me.
would be so funny if that was just Kaido chilling behind his window bars. we have not seen his bottom half have we.?
Haha, I wouldn't have even noticed if you didn't say anything since I wasn't quoted and didn't return to this topic.
All I had to say about it (besides more disclaimers, i.e. "who knows what physical troubles there are with sailing or finding it at the actual end of the grand line") was in the image that went along with that topic:
http://www.16bitarena.com/raft.png
The Abridged was just a wrap-up (including a little rehashing) because I didn't want to abridge spanning more than one arc at a time later.
Since compass doesn't work on Grand Line, this doesn't work.
Since compass doesn't work on Grand Line, this doesn't work.
Not if you have one ship. If someone were to have enough resources, like a fleet of ships to cover a large area, it might be feasible.
But since none of the emperors nor marines will ever get at least 3 locations, we'll probably never know.
Unless there's a situation where SH find the 4 locations, figure out the location of Raftel and on the way there they realize someone else had found the location through a different, more roundabout, method.
Yeah, having your friends wait at each point and using a vivre card to sail between those points works just as well as a compass (if not simply someone watching the sun carefully). Of course, we don't know what's physically there or not there either, hence the disclaimers.
would be so funny if that was just Kaido chilling behind his window bars. we have not seen his bottom half have we.?
kaido trying prison suicide?
Is there chapter this week?
The next double issue is in two weeks. Goldenweek I guess.
Yep, should have 3 more chapters before the break for Golden Week.
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Thx guys! …...........
kaido trying prison suicide?
I think his mind is ready to die, but his body simply refuses.
So using force and poison seems no option, because his body just tanks that shit^^
Ah the dreaded golden fcking week and the double issue coming soon every fkin year. Instead of the break we should get double chapter because it is retarded to name it double issue and take a fcking 2 week break.
^Well, if you think about it, Oda-sensei probably would have taken his next break on the week that there isn't a new issue anyway. Hopefully that means we'll get 7 or 8 Shonen Jump issues in a row with One Piece chapters since Oda-sensei's break will coincide with Shonen Jump's.
Yeah it actually turned out well for us since a hiatus is probably on Oda's schedule anyway. When we had those Jump breaks in January Oda didn't take a separate break after that.
Ah the dreaded golden fcking week and the double issue coming soon every fkin year. Instead of the break we should get double chapter because it is retarded to name it double issue and take a fcking 2 week break.
I found that if your life is very busy, a One Piece chapter will come very quickly, you can just brush aside breaks. If all you do is wait for One Piece in your life, you're ruined.
Yeah it actually turned out well for us since a hiatus is probably on Oda's schedule anyway. When we had those Jump breaks in January Oda didn't take a separate break after that.
actually they sometimes takes a week just before or after the jump breaks making for a 2 week break so he could take a break after the break lol