Things are going to get crazier from this point. I can't wait to see if that animal girl will be the next nakama.
Chapter 802: Zou
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I can't wait to see Weeble meeting Luffy, he is not going to be able to tell the difference between him and shirohigue haha.
It was a bit of a dissapointment at first sight the design of the new warlord but then again the mother thing is hilarious and it is a good way to reintroduce Whitebeards allies, even though i would have wanted him to look more as though he couldve cut Z´s arm off.
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Things are going to get crazier from this point. I can't wait to see if that animal girl will be the next nakama.
It will be funny if her reason for join is because she fell for Chopper.
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You know, I'm actually kind of curious to how strong Weeble actually is. I mean, we've only just seen him but still.
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This one honestly catches my eye. Because those are the same captains that helped Whitebeard at Marineford. The same captains that were able to keep the entirety of the vice admirals at bay by themselves; and apparently Weeble has been blowing through them regularly without so much as a scratch. Gotta admit, it's a really good use of the worf effect if I must say.
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And maybe I'm just speculating a bit too much here, but I can't see any harbor or coast nearby. Just how far did he throw that massive ship?
[/hide]Oh, and Barto Club calling "Granny" for advice is one of the funniest things I've seen from OP in a while.
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and? Yes, the eyes are different but Hatchi looked very different from Arlong and Kurobi with his mouth sticking out so far. Different types can look different from each other.
While I may believe they are minkmen, and been saying it for the longest time now. I admit that we can't know for certainty until we see more Minkmen.
Until then we can't say yes or no.Yes, but all the fishmen looked different from one another. And their most prominent physical differences always had something to do with their species, like Hachi and Chu's protrunding mouths, or shark-fishmen's teeth. I don't see why lion- or polar bear man should have beady eyes while a mink person doesn't.
Both B&P have similar eyes and stocky builds. While the girl has human eyes and squearish snout. I'm not completely sure about this either, but right now I find Pekoms and Bepo not being minkmen most likely.
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Barto's ship has Chopper face carved on the back! (Bottom left corner)
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I would not get one bit suprised if that new Warlord does not fight with Bisento we seen him holding but simply carries it around to be alike to his "father".
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Will we have a minkman as new nakama? Hmmm been wondering esp after seeing the shy looking one that the Swirly Hat pirates are looking for. She probs helped them
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We don't need any new nkama for a long while! We got plenty of em from Dressrosa! My hopes are the only thing they get is temporary allies who help out and the next new nakama we get is jinbei…and even HIM I hope isn't until AFTER they beat kaido.
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You know, I'm actually kind of curious to how strong Weeble actually is. I mean, we've only just seen him but still.
Apparently strong enough that he feels he can go and take on the entirety of the Whitebeard pirates by himself.
And going by what the monkey said he's not basing that confidence on nothing.
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So did anyone else think it was weird how the colour page was missing a few Strawhat members? Sure Franky and Brook would stick out there but not even Robin made it in.
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Here is my theory….. Edward Webble is "Frankenstein" ... Last creation of Gecko Moria...
He is actually a mixture of Whitbeard's dead body + OARS JR.
Moria should've captured all the defeated people's souls and did something out of em.Look at this picture: Its actually frankenstein and his mother, ain't the mother more like the one on this pic? Only frankenstein is OnePiece'd here.
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I'm hella sure! This ain't no WB's son nor wife… It might be WB's + OARS JR's Corpses mixed with a thousand souls, or just one epic pirate traped somehow by Gecko Moria. (Might have been hand-cuffed with seastone cuffs by Invisible Abosalom, to make it easy for his captain)
Now that I think of it, Maybe its a hella strong silly psycopath from level 6 of impel down.
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why are certain fishmen called 'fish'men when they are octopus and squid types since they are cephalopods and not fish? It's a generalization of the race that's why.
Minkmen sounds better than mammen (mam for mammals) or animen.
This again? Mink refers to a specific group of mammals. Weasels, otters, ferrets etc.
A word "fish" refers to more than 30 thousand species and while there were a couple of cephalopods there, like Hachi and Squid, it can hardly be compared to putting all the talking mammals under a name that is used for a couple of animals.
Also, there's the fact that otter-people are in Japan's mythology and are called kawauso (river otter):
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We really needed a chapter like this one, lightweight from every angle.
Whitebeard's son needs to stop with the mushrooms!
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Barto's ship has Chopper face carved on the back! (Bottom left corner)
Noticed his horns when it was first shown, but not the face. Too funny.
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So, according to the Story of DBZ, will little Edward kill his own Mom, because she is the only one who is able to control his Power and/or knows his Weakpoint(s), she annoys him soon and he want to follow his own goals? Attacking the BB-Pirates. Impossible, but I would like it. And "Zou" looks like one of those dressed up Soldiers from the "Princess Mononoke"-Movie, in the last Panel.
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Barto's ship has Chopper face carved on the back! (Bottom left corner)
Waow, good point!
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@DEE:
Here is my theory….. Edward Webble is "Frankenstein" ... Last creation of Gecko Moria...
He is actually a mixture of Whitbeard's dead body + OARS JR.
Moria should've captured all the defeated people's souls and did something out of em.Look at this picture: Its actually frankenstein and his mother, ain't the mother more like the one on this pic? Only frankenstein is OnePiece'd here.
I'm hella sure! This ain't no WB's son nor wife… It might be WB's + OARS JR's Corpses mixed with a thousand souls, or just one epic pirate traped somehow by Gecko Moria. (Might have been hand-cuffed with seastone cuffs by Invisible Abosalom, to make it easy for his captain)
Now that I think of it, Maybe its a hella strong silly psycopath from level 6 of impel down.
Any answers ? reactions?
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@DEE:
Here is my theory….. Edward Webble is "Frankenstein" ... Last creation of Gecko Moria...
He is actually a mixture of Whitbeard's dead body + OARS JR.
.Well :) it's what Oda wants to make belief for the moment to fool us better later :)
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Well :) it's what Oda wants to make belief for the moment to fool us better later :)
Aha? Is there some people who believes the same like me ? cuz i've scrolled up and noone stated the possibility of weevil bein' Frankenstein
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@joekido:
Ok, the island Sanji and the others landed on does not look like Zou. Sanji's island has a beach, a water volcano and solid uneven ground. That's not something found on Zou and how will they get up there?
The island where Sanji landed IS Zo. They anchored at his leg, the ground is uneven rock (the back of the elephant) and the water volcano is actually the trunk of the elephant spitting water into the sky to clean itself. Real elephants drink water and then spit it onto themselves to keep them clean and refresh them from the sun. It's how they shower :)
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@DEE:
Aha? Is there some people who believes the same like me ? cuz i've scrolled up and noone stated the possibility of weevil bein' Frankenstein
well, yes a lot and some people say it doesn't make sense since sunligth would have kill any Moria creature…
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I hope Epoida is okay.
Right??? He's the only one that matters tbh. I really hope he didn't take down any of the commanders though, I really liked some of those guys
Seriously thought you guys were talking about the user here lol
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Barto's ship has Chopper face carved on the back! (Bottom left corner)
I spotted the antlers last chapter.
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@Light:
Yes, but all the fishmen looked different from one another. And their most prominent physical differences always had something to do with their species, like Hachi and Chu's protrunding mouths, or shark-fishmen's teeth. I don't see why lion- or polar bear man should have beady eyes while a mink person doesn't.
Both B&P have similar eyes and stocky builds. While the girl has human eyes and squearish snout. I'm not completely sure about this either, but right now I find Pekoms and Bepo not being minkmen most likely.
They probably are though. Because Law has never been in Zo before, it means that someone in the crew must know about the island.
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Seriously thought you guys were talking about the user here lol
Omg, I wondered what happened to Epoida the user.
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This again? Mink refers to a specific group of mammals. Weasels, otters, ferrets etc.
Wrong. Mink is a specific mustela species. Otters and such aren't Mink.
Mink also refers to fur coats in general.
Also, the fact that Law has never been there and that the crew managed to reach Zo in the first place proves that at least one member of the Heart Pirates knows how to reach Zo without a Log Pose, which means that this specific crew member has a Vivre Card pointing to the place.
Which means that specific Heart Pirates crew member must be acquainted with one of the inhabitants in order to have their Vivre Card.
You should be able to figure out the rest.
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They probably are though. Because Law has never been in Zo before, it means that someone in the crew must know about the island.
Even Kanjuro knew that minkmen live there. It's not exactly top secret information.
There are numerous possible explanations and a lot of them aren't "Bepo is actually an otter and his father told him about Zou".
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Wrong. Mink is a specific mustela species. Otters and such aren't Mink.
Mink also refers to fur coats in general.
You're actually right, otters aren't mink, even though they're closely related. More related than polar bear, at the least.
Also, I thought mink first and foremost refered to coats made from fur of american mink.
Either way, what are the odds that Oda named one of OP species after processed fur? No need to answer.
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Even Kanjuro knew that minkmen live there. It's not exactly top secret information.
There are numerous possible explanations and a lot of them aren't "Bepo is actually an otter and his father told him about Zou".
I'm not talking about what the island is, but how to reach it.
And for the last time, otter aren't minks.
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I'm not talking about what the island is, but how to reach it.
And for the last time, otter aren't minks.
If people around know who lives on Zou, maybe someone in the vicinity also knows how to reach it. Maybe it's just not that strategically important for people to even go there.
And I don't really care.
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Also, the fact that Law has never been there and that the crew managed to reach Zo in the first place proves that at least one member of the Heart Pirates knows how to reach Zo without a Log Pose, which means that this specific crew member has a Vivre Card pointing to the place.
Which means that specific Heart Pirates crew member must be acquainted with one of the inhabitants in order to have their Vivre Card.
You should be able to figure out the rest.
Yes, there can only be one possible explanation. They have a vivre card from Bepo's uncle.
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And going by what the monkey said he's not basing that confidence on nothing.
Took me a minute to realize that you were talking about "golden monkey" Kizaru.
But yeah, that seems to be a fair call on Kizaru's part. I only have two other (serious) questions about him though.
One, does he have a devil fruit? I'm assuming he does; but he seems to also use a weapon identical to Whitebeard's, and given his character I'm assuming he uses it frequently. So I'd have to wager that if he does have a devil fruit, it's one that he can use through it, again, similar to Whitebeard.
And two, has he ever tried to visit (or find) the grave of his "father"? Because I could definitely see that being a major source of conflict between him and the remnants of Whitebeard's crew.
The only other "question" I have is honestly just superficial…and yet it's bugging me. What color is his hair? The mustache is obviously white (given the namesake of his "father") but my brain wants to call his hair blonde.
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If people around know who lives on Zou, maybe someone in the vicinity also knows how to reach it. Maybe it's just not that strategically important for people to even go there.
Well, Log poses don't work there and the "island" is constantly moving.
Vivre cards are reliable in this case because they always point to their destination, like Eternal poses.
However, the implication here is that the Heart Pirates had access to the Vivre Card of someone from the island. Basically, someone in the Heart Pirates is acquainted with somebody from Zo, as they would require their fingernails to make the card in the first place.
Yes, there can only be one possible explanation. They have a vivre card from Bepo's uncle.
Considering that the one method we've seen so far to reach Zo is through Vivre cards, you're not really helping your argument.
Apparently, asking people in the vicinity about directions to find a constantly moving elephant island who could be anywhere in the ocean is more likely.
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Well, Log poses don't work there and the "island" is constantly moving.
Vivre cards are reliable in this case because they always point to their destination, like Eternal poses.
However, the implication here is that the Heart Pirates had access to the Vivre Card of someone from the island. Basically, someone in the Heart Pirates is acquainted with somebody from Zo, as they would require their fingernails to make the card in the first place.
Look, jokes aside, I do see it as a reasonable possibility. So far, there's only one known method of finding Zou and it involves Vivre Cards. No matter how stupid it sounds, yes, it is possible Oda chose to call all those talking animals minkmen.
But it doesn't mean that Heart pirates didn't find some other way to get to Zou. Kaido's crew managed to get there somehow, didn't they? Perhaps they found someone who was there and who had a piece of some minkman's Vivre Card, or they managed to find it through luck, or by tracking the elephant with sonar (they do sail in a sub, lol), or something else entirely.
I feel like there wouldn't be a reasonable connection between all the humanlike animals and that they all originate from the same village. Too many details to explain. And this is a manga where a starfish learned to talk with practice.
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Look, jokes aside, I do see it as a reasonable possibility. So far, there's only one known method of finding Zou and it involves Vivre Cards. No matter how stupid it sounds, yes, it is possible Oda chose to call all those talking animals minkmen.
But it doesn't mean that Heart pirates didn't find some other way to get to Zou. Kaido's crew managed to get there somehow, didn't they? Perhaps they found someone who was there and who had a piece of some minkman's Vivre Card, or they managed to find it through luck, or by tracking the elephant with sonar (they do sail in a sub, lol).
Or Kaido could have a Minkman crewmate.
Also, let's not forget the double meaning "Zo" can have. A zoo (similar spelling) usually has a high variety of animals.
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As much as I try, I just can't like the design of this Weeble and take him as a serious villain.
Not only is he fat like a baloon, but he also has that derp face and child mind.
At least the guys like Moria, Blackbeard pirates have that evil thing going about them.
Reminds me now why I hated that Boo pink guy from Dragonball, but even he had something evil about him, and didn't look this derp-ish.
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@uniaka:
Reminds me now why I hated that Boo pink guy from Dragonball, but even he had something evil about him, and didn't look this derp-ish.
I feel old when people doesn't seems to know who Majin Buu is.
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Minks have been foreshadowed since chapter 500 http://prntscr.com/8moho9
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I just can't see Weeble as a complete villain.He seems like a powerful but simple oaf who can be manipulated by someone sinister.Luffy will probably befriend him in the end.
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Minks have been foreshadowed since chapter 500 http://prntscr.com/8moho9
Cool, also Snakenecks :blink:
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Moria can't take shadows from dead people. And no Brook doesn't count, in fact that is why Ryuuma didn't re-killed brook.
"t is hinted at the fact that the death of the original owner has no effect on the shadow since Hogback stated that once it's extracted, it is best to get rid of the owner." After the war, they found a way to "extract" a shadow like Whitebeard.
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Weeble looks so weak. I wonder if he has a devil fruit.
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Oro jackson had an incredible thread on secrets of 802. Dude showed the real world equivalent of the place weebil destroyed and a historical event, where it was destroyed by an earthquake, killing 60000. Funny cause he's the supposed son of the earthquake or former earthquake man. Along wih other little details. Should check it out you guys….
Ps i like this character; original and promising. Also, he could be whitebeard son or perhaps a relative... his head and beard is similar as is his strengh but guys his mom looks like crap, its not surprising how he looks....
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Lol… Isn't that elephant a living animal, is not really that hard to find it as long as you use Observation and ask some questions here and there.
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You know I get the feeling Weeble has a second transformation where he doesn't look so derpy.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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This will be so funny when Weeble meets Luffy:
L:"You don't look like the ol' WB at all!!!"
W:shockface
Ms.B:"But I was WB's Lover!"
L:"No way ol' WB would love such an old ugly witch like you!"
Ms.B:shockfaceCan't wait
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am i the only one that likes the design of weeble he looks funny and strong look at the ship in the middle of the town mans got to be powerfull
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Bartolomeo must constantly be more lucky than Luffy in the moment lightning struck down Buggy if he got this far without a navigator or a shipwright.
I wonder if Weeble was the figure talking with Crocus in that one page of From the Decks of the World. I'm not sure how I feel about him. He and Bucking are similar to Majin Buu and Babidi. I liked Majin Buu, but that's because he was super cute. Weeble isn't quite as cute. Still, I'm interested to see where this goes.
I like the elephant island. Trivia: There actually is a place in Antactica called Elephant Island. If it's 1000 years old it might know some things. I wonder if someone performed the Ope Ope's ultimate technique on it.
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"t is hinted at the fact that the death of the original owner has no effect on the shadow since Hogback stated that once it's extracted, it is best to get rid of the owner." After the war, they found a way to "extract" a shadow like Whitebeard.
no, that is incorrect.
if the man dies, his 'shadow' dies with him and so does the zombie…that's why moria didn't just kill luffy after he took his shadow.. and why all the guys moria took the shadows from were free around the world. -
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