@Owain:
I don't recall Zoro losing to Crocodile either. He still would.
That would work if we knew the gap between Mr.1 and Mr.2 was the same as between Croc and Mr.1
We don't though.
@Owain:
Sanji was lying right there. Did Arlong care about him? No.
…you mean when Arlong was holding a helpless Zoro by the throat having defeated him easily just like Sanji?
He marveled at Zoro's endurance.
Hardly a testament to a massive power gap between Zoro and Sanji.
@Owain:
But beating Enel's strongest commander doesn't count? Why doesn't Oda always give Sanji stronger enemies?
Sanji also defeated one of Enel's commanders.
Zoro usually defeats the "second in command", yeah.
However, as we saw with the readout from Kaku and Jabra (which is the only definitive power level we have) the difference between second and third isn't necessarily enormous.
@Owain:
Well, it was the place where Luffy and Zoro had an inconclusive fight with the two saying they didn't know who was stronger. Never happened to Sanji, has it? Why do you think Oda did this?
You mean the gag fight over a misunderstanding?
Zoro fighting Luffy does not equal Zoro being massively stronger than Sanji.
@Owain:
So Sanji couldn't handle a hit from Zoro. And it means nothing that Oda chose Zoro to be the one who in the end was superior in that scene. Got it.
He sucker punched a guy who had just taken a Shichibukai's ultimate attack and stood up after it.
Are you really using this as proof of strength?
@Owain:
Oh, no. I meant when Urogue did it. Why do you think Oda had Urogue say that? Why has no one ever said it about Sanji?
Because Zoro's the most apparent member of Luffy's crew?
Have any of the SHs ever commented on this situation?
Y'know…people who actually involved with the dynamics of the crew?
@Owain:
Marvellous straw man. I'm talking about the relationship between Zoro and Sanji.
Why does Oda always give Zoro a higher bounty than Sanji. Please have something better than "he has an author crush on him."
Ok, so bounties count when Zoro's is bigger, but not when Usopp's is.
Gotcha.
@Owain:
Being rivals with Smoker and Coby isn't much to brag about either. Yet.
Smoker, I'd say that is actually quite impressive considering his position.
Coby, not so much, no.
@Owain:
Yes, the comparisons between the two sword wielding men who were the first to join the pirate King and have scars that are mirror images of each other is forced.
One of whom is singled out considerably by possessing CoC, and with a completely different personality, yeah.
@Owain:
The two are the only non-caption Supernovas, none DF using Supernovas and fight using bladed weapons. Comparing the two is pretty understandable. Especially when you were sure Zoro wouldn't get a higher bounty than Killer. Why did you use Kileer as the benchmark.
Killer's the only subordinate we've really seen with a bounty rise from another crew.