Was i the only one that was unsettled by PC Principal's thrashing of Cartman?
I know he is the biggest dick in the show, but even he didn't deserve to get sent to the hospital
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with all due respect, Cartman deserved it for all the crap he got away with in the past seasons.
He deserves to get the crap beaten out of him, but not by an oversized, protein-shake guzzling self-righteous douche bag adult. He deserves it from someone like Kyle, or Token. Or Ike.
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PC Principal is strong…Cartman has to evolve during the season to overcome him.
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He deserves to get the crap beaten out of him, but not by an oversized, protein-shake guzzling self-righteous douche bag adult. He deserves it from someone like Kyle, or Token. Or Ike.
I agree with ya, but…
No..no...the only one who really deserves to kick the living crap out of Cartman is Butters.
It would be physically and psychologically the best thing to happen to the little shit.
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This is a kid who fed someone their parents and was in the middle of framing someone for child molestation. He doesn't get beat up enough in this show.
Anyway the season is off to a strong start. I really like that they're carrying things over from previous episodes again. I also really like South Park's Canadians. Even when they're just talking they're a delight for some reason.
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Something about this season really tells me Matt and Trey really dislike SJW's.
Off to a great start. I hope PC Principal sticks around for the rest of the season. -
They really hit the nail on the head with this one lol.
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I wonder if principal Victoria will show up in one of these episodes. She has to now that she's been fired to see where her job is going now.
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I just remembered that the former principal also was able to beat up Cartman. Indirectly through Wendy, lol.
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These past two episodes they've been on a roll. Tying PC-ness, Donald Trump, Caitlyn Jenner, hell even a Jared cameo….I wonder if Randy will stay indoctrined with the PC crowd.
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If I had drank something during the escalator part it would be all over my screen.
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This season is amazing so far. I love that they are able to couple the continuous storylines with one-off satire. Hope they make fun of Fantasy Football.
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Yeah three episodes in and they're tethered so closely. Randy's still PC and people still rag on Kyle for making a speech.
Although I thought the episode in general was a little weak.
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this episode doesnt follow up on the past episodes but still a good one.
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It kinda does continues the story from the last episode because Whole Foods and CtPa Town still in town and South Park is getting more business which is continuation from the last episode.
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Yeah, the episode-to-episode connection is still chugging along.
I found it interesting that not even Cartman, who demands the most importance, ever realized people like Kyle's dad and the police chief were trying to call themselves the leader of the group, but Kyle pointed it out nicely: everyone thought it was it about them.
David, I liked David, I'm betting he'll stay a background character for a while, given how day-after-day these episodes are looking like.
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So whole foods is like an ecological food store?
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Mexicans. Cartman asks at the end of the previous episode if all the Mexicans are actually staying, then we get David and his family introduced this episode.
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3 episodes PC principal was all there, now he ws left out. wht i ment to say was that the other 3 had more in commen -
! I think I'm gonna count this amongst the best South Park episodes I've ever seen. The humor is constantly top notch and the delivery of the filtered and multi-layered message is downright excellent.
! Not only does it portray the vanity and silliness of social media in this new generation. The huge fuck you to the people who grew up in the ''don't talk back to me or you're a bigot'' generation and at the same time the internet trolls. And with the ending showing how completely unanchored these same people are from real world problem in their egotistical worldview. I was always told ''think about the children in Africa'', when I was a kid, didn't they? I didn't know about this whole plus size model crap so I googled it and was just flabbergasted, it literally felt like I was living in a parody. So many great points in one, single episode. I salute you Matt and Trey. You outdid yourselves with this one. -
! I think I'm gonna count this amongst the best South Park episodes I've ever seen. The humor is constantly top notch and the delivery of the filtered and multi-layered message is downright excellent.
! Not only does it portray the vanity and silliness of social media in this new generation. The huge fuck you to the people who grew up in the ''don't talk back to me or you're a bigot'' generation and at the same time the internet trolls. And with the ending showing how completely unanchored these same people are from real world problem in their egotistical worldview. I was always told ''think about the children in Africa'', when I was a kid, didn't they? I didn't know about this whole plus size model crap so I googled it and was just flabbergasted, it literally felt like I was living in a parody. So many great points in one, single episode. I salute you Matt and Trey. You outdid yourselves with this one.! I would definitely disagree. There were one or two jokes that were basically stretched out over the entire episode, and the plot moved very slowly. I was bored before the first commercial break and the second act basically did nothing. I'll admit that there were a couple moments that made me smirk but for the most part I was unamused. It seems like whenever Matt and Trey try to tackle a nuanced issue like this they generally come out with a muddled, mediocre episode rather than sharp satire. Easily my least favorite episode of the season, followed by last week's Yelp episode.
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! I think I'm gonna count this amongst the best South Park episodes I've ever seen. The humor is constantly top notch and the delivery of the filtered and multi-layered message is downright excellent.
! Not only does it portray the vanity and silliness of social media in this new generation. The huge fuck you to the people who grew up in the ''don't talk back to me or you're a bigot'' generation and at the same time the internet trolls. And with the ending showing how completely unanchored these same people are from real world problem in their egotistical worldview. I was always told ''think about the children in Africa'', when I was a kid, didn't they? I didn't know about this whole plus size model crap so I googled it and was just flabbergasted, it literally felt like I was living in a parody. So many great points in one, single episode. I salute you Matt and Trey. You outdid yourselves with this one.…and I agree with you whole-heartedly. This show is is so on-point this season it's starting to scare me (especially since I thought that last season was a particularly weak one).
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I really enjoyed this most recent episode, probably because it felt broader and less topical than others this week. Stan's mini-plot got dropped halfway through and I've never been a fan of Cupid-Me, but the main story was absolutely hilarious.
Also, if any of you weren't aware, Creek is an actual fan pairing and much of the art shown in the first act is real fanart.
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Also, if any of you weren't aware, Creek is an actual fan pairing and much of the art shown in the first act is real fanart.
Ahaha, I figured as much. I think the season 4 episode where the boys coordinated a fight between the two is where it kinda took off? That's like the only other episode the two interact in.
Cupid Me kinda dragged things down, although Tweek's performance at the end was great.
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Boys being boys, and the adults overreacting or misinterpreting what they are doing - those tend to be my favorite episodes. Which is why I liked last weeks episode, didnt like the one before, and loved the newest one. The ISIS thing was hilarious.
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I wasn't super amused by the episode as a whole, mainly because the adults' ass-covering mentality really pisses me off, but the episode definitely did have some fun moments. That kicker at the end definitely got me though.
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This episode wasn't as good as last weeks but i enjoyed it still. The ending was great
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I wasn't a fan of this one. It started an interesting conversation but it didn't have an answer so it just spent of a lot of time in the middle of the issue making bad jokes and then ended with no clear message on the conversation that they started.
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I wasn't a fan of this one. It started an interesting conversation but it didn't have an answer so it just spent of a lot of time in the middle of the issue making bad jokes and then ended with no clear message on the conversation that they started.
It's cause the episode wasn't really about police brutality, it was about assigning blame and writing narratives to promote your own personal agenda. It works for the adults but Cartman gets caught because he's on his own.
Can we talk about the ending? This is the first time in a couple seasons that we've actually had something to theorize about on the show.
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It's cause the episode wasn't really about police brutality, it was about assigning blame and writing narratives to promote your own personal agenda. It works for the adults but Cartman gets caught because he's on his own.
My problem is that they used police brutality, specifically against minorities, to have that conversation. The cops constantly repeat it and it's even returned to at the end. So the story is framed around police brutality and instead of addressing it they use to showcase nothing really. The townspeople jump to conclusions about the kids. The adults take blaming the police to the extreme. The police refuse to do anything at all until they can go back to beating up minorities. An incompetent cop is rightly fired for being incompetent, then hired again to do something stupid, then fired again.
I don't think the episode touched on any point strongly enough to say it was about anything. In the end it was a bunch of really weak narratives with lame punch lines and no pay off. Set against the contentious issue of police brutality. I find that really annoying because that's the exact same problem that the issues faces in reality. It's used as a background for everyone else to have a lot of different conversations that don't actually address the issue. Instead of Matt and Trey tackling the issue they subvert it and throw in something about homeless people to make sure the episode really isn't about anything.
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I thought that the police brutality was used to lampoon the willingness of the "ultra PC crowd" to overlook it when it came to classicism and the homeless in certain circumstances. At least that's what I got out of it anyway.
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I thought that the police brutality was used to lampoon the willingness of the "ultra PC crowd" to overlook it when it came to classicism and the homeless in certain circumstances. At least that's what I got out of it anyway.
! Exactly. Randy and the adults were touting how PC and great they are but the second that it threatens that lifestyle they fully throw that away and do anything (to the point they tell Barbrady to shoot the kids so they can ship the homeless back to Kenny's house) to keep that narrative going so they can say they are good righteous people.
! And when they get called out on it they shift the blame to someone else to save their ass, with Barbrady being that person even though clearly Randy and the PC Principal are the causes for the two Hispanic kids being shot -
How is anyone but Barbrady responsible for shooting those kids. In the first case he was just trigger happy. In the second if someone tells you to go shoot kids do you go do it? And after you do it do you say it was ok because someone told you to do it?
If the episode was to show that PC people are only PC when it suits them, they have been doing that theme the entire season so that's not a new message.
If the episode was about shifting blame they could have done that without framing it around police brutality against minorities and when they choose to frame the story around that they should have addressed the issue. Instead they treat it as a joke to make the same point about PC people they've been making without really addressing the issue that continually pushes the entire episode forward, police violence against minorities.
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How is anyone but Barbrady responsible for shooting those kids. In the first case he was just trigger happy. In the second if someone tells you to go shoot kids do you go do it? And after you do it do you say it was ok because someone told you to do it?
In both cases he was manipulated. The first was orchestrated by PC Principal. Barbrady was alone, out of his depth, and with no information, so it makes sense he was panicked. The red laser pointer dot didn't help either. Barbrady bears the majority of the blame but I can still sympathize.
The second, gullible, bumbling Barbrady was told they were terrorists. He goes in cautiously, they start talking, probably everything can get worked out until Randy tackles him and the gun goes off. Randy bears at least equal responsibility there for manipulating him and making the gun go off.
Barbrady not a good cop, but he's a good person.
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He wasn't manipulated in the first case. PC principal called all the police because he wanted Lessie out for talking. There was nothing manipulative about that. There were other officers on the scene. There were other people who saw the laser pointer and didn't jump to the same conclusion he did. He fired his weapon in panic and without thought. We trust police with weapons because they're supposed to be trained not to do that. His actions are in no way defensible or the responsibility of anyone else but his own.
In the second case he was also not manipulated. They told him they wanted him to kill the children they thought were terrorist. He agreed to do it. That's not manipulation. They didn't deceive or trick him into doing it. They asked and despite his own reservations about the whole thing he went into the situation gun rocked and ready to fire.
You're right he's not a good cop and whether or not he's a good person is irrelevant when someone is wounded or in the case of a lot of young minorities, dead, because a cop "overreacted".
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He wasn't manipulated in the first case. PC principal called all the police because he wanted Lessie out for talking. There was nothing manipulative about that. There were other officers on the scene. There were other people who saw the laser pointer and didn't jump to the same conclusion he did. He fired his weapon in panic and without thought. We trust police with weapons because they're supposed to be trained not to do that. His actions are in no way defensible or the responsibility of anyone else but his own.
In the second case he was also not manipulated. They told him they wanted him to kill the children they thought were terrorist. He agreed to do it. That's not manipulation. They didn't deceive or trick him into doing it. They asked and despite his own reservations about the whole thing he went into the situation gun rocked and ready to fire.
You're right he's not a good cop and whether or not he's a good person is irrelevant when someone is wounded or in the case of a lot of young minorities, dead, because a cop "overreacted".
Did you not see PC Principal in the picture with Leslie? That's pretty clearly implying that they're in cahoots, especially since this episode season with PC Principal transforming the town. I'm betting right now he's some kind of season-long villain.
You're also not understanding Barbrady's psychology very well. His past characterization in the series has been that of a mentally disabled person and a frequent pawn. You put someone like that in a situation of apparent high pressure, like a solo mission in a school where lives are likely on the line, and he's going to panic. In the second case, Barbrady is encountered in the middle of the night at his lowest point, when he's groggy. People he respects are surrounding him, outnumbering him, telling him he's their only hope to stop child terrorists. That's some incredible pressure there for someone who's not mentally equipped to handle it. After all, Randy and company picked him for the job because they knew he could be convinced to do it and easily blame him if anything went wrong.
And don't tell me the minority part was in anyway relevant beyond public perception. In neither case was he intentionally aiming at someone in particular when the gun went off. Obviously that's different in real life, but here the minority part was added humorously to emphasize how horrible these accidents could play on television in a strictly PC town.
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Even if PC principle is a season long villain that doesn't excuse Barbrady's actions nor does it count as manipulating him. PC Principals called ALL the police. Not just Barbrady. Unless you're saying PC principal knew Barbrady was going to go in the in the back, alone, and get a laser pointer shone on him and shot a child as a result that's not manipulation.
The second time Barbrady was completely aware that what he was doing was wrong despite his mental capacity. He had reservations when they told him their plan. He had reservations when he confronted the kids. He knew the gravity of the situation and he still agreed to do it and by it I mean kill children but despite his reservations he still went into the situation with his gun ready to fire, on children. You're letting him off way too lightly.
And no the minority part is public perception for the town but it's a definitely a commentary for the audience because in the end the police only agree to go back to work if they can beat up minorities.
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I liked this sudden cliffhanger. Story arc in muh South Park.
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Well that took a turn for the unexpected. I definitely enjoyed this episode, and it explains why Leslie talks so much during assemblies.
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Everything's all tying together…..they've referenced everything that's happened - Caitlyn Jenner, Garrison running for president, Randy being PC, Jimmy mentioned ISIS and ninjas, Randy talked about the Whole Foods...
Sh*t just got intense with Leslie.
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I've been so impressed with this season as a whole. The only weak episode, in my opinion, was the Yelp episode. Ona whole, however, this has been one of the best season of South Park to me.
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I've been trying to decide what this whole ads-evolving is parodying and I've concluded it's a mix between Terminator and Blade Runner.
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I've been trying to decide what this whole ads-evolving is parodying and I've concluded it's a mix between Terminator and Blade Runner.
I got a Matrix vibe from it, actually. The whole "chosen one" aspect and all that.
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Does she know she's an ad?!
Loving this season so far, it's been a huge improvement on the last couple years. Randy's one of my favorite characters, so I'm really dig how pervasive he's been in each episode. The ISIS episode was absolutely great, but this one certainly took the cake.
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This season has been amazing and this twist is just fantastic. I assume there is going to be some kind of ultimate/final villain that has to do with ads. I wonder who/what it will be. The hints seem to be that the whole town or the whole season are an giant ad for something.
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Really enjoyed them tackling the consent forms.
I was also a big fan of the Yelp episode. More because I can relate to it, but goddamn are the self-righteous kinds of Yelpers annoying.
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or the whole season are an giant ad for something.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a gigantic advertisement for the next video game.
