Yeah I know, I was just re-reading it and I found a few grammar errors. However, don't worry I was just in a rush to get it out. I will hopefully do better next week. (This scanlating business is fun.)
Chapter 419 "The Legendary Hero" Discussion
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Embarrassing? Now I'm curious. Nosephobia? XD
It's ok, you're entitled to your opinion. You're not the only person in the world that doesn't like a One Piece character. It just makes me kind of sad. It's almost like someone hating a good friend.its not really the nose, if not i would hate Kaku; and i love Kaku.
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the reason i dont like Usopp is because of the way his mouth is drawn. he looks like a clown and i am a little scared of clowns. also the way his mouth is drawn give me the impression that Usopp has really bad breath. i think the same thing when he is giving a really moving speech and he yells and his spit comes out of his mouth. i know it sounds weird, but thats the first thing i thought of when i saw Usopp in the manga. i mean, i guess i can say Usopp has his funny and cool moments. i dont know, i feel weird now saying it.
again, sorry to offend anyone. i really enjoy this forum. i dont wanna have people hate me on this forum, because of an opinion. i dont hate usopp, maybe i overexaggerated, but i dont think of him too highly either.
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I bet it's because he has a big nose, and maybe you think he looks Hebrew?
i dont think i would hate a character because he looks like a certain race. i am not racist.
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Natty, There are a few characters that have similar mouths to Usopp (Jango, Krieg, Mr 3, ect.) Do you feel the same way about them?
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to a certain extent, yes. i only feel the clown thing with Usopp though.
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I was scared of a character at one point too. Kokoro XD She appeared and I was like 0.o But I got over it fast.
anyway, Oda wouldn't want Usopp to have bad breath. He's too awesome for something like that.
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You atleast hate buggy, right?
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Thanks to everyon that made reading the chapter possible. I have to say I am really impressed by usopp but hope he does more and i'm still hoping for a combined effort with robin. Also I loved the way sanji was so excited and praising usopps skills it showed what usopp felt left out before that they do respect him. It also makes me think that had usopp hid in a distance and fought luffy would he have been even more deadly….anyway I hope they fight the buster call but when they're all gathered meaning when luffy's finished with the robster.
Thanks again.
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@Cap'n:
I'm inclined to agree, actually. I think he'll have a hand in defeating/bypassing the Buster Call, but him destroying the whole thing is a bit… much.
It's WAY too much. The Buster Call is described as the government's strongest force. The guy, whether it's souped up or not, fights with a slingshot. The seven members and Franky beating it straight out of the CP9 fights is even a bit hard to imagine.
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It's WAY too much. The Buster Call is described as the government's strongest force. The guy, whether it's souped up or not, fights with a slingshot. The seven members and Franky beating it straight out of the CP9 fights is even a bit hard to imagine.
yup, i'd actually be disappointed at them doing anything bar running, the buster call is a fight for another day.
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First I just want to say, wow, great chapter! It's great to see all the predictions about Usopp using his sniping abilities come to pass. Thanks to all the translators and the raw providers. With that said.
What are you talking about? Snipers use scopes all the time. And those scopes are usually directly connected to their rifles making aiming far easier (just position the rifle so that the target is over the scope's crosshairs, and fire). Usopp's scopes on the other hand (assuming he's using scopes) are worn directly over his eyes. Therefore he would still need to rely on his own skills to accurately hit targets with his slingshot (he can't just sight and shoot). A scope would only allow him to see farther, and wouldn't really be a cheat at all. Besides do you think snipers of Van Auger's caliber don't use scopes to take down targets from miles away? Take a look at his eyepiece. I'm willing to bet that that's a scope he's using.
I think his googles may have zoom capabilities too but I don't think he's using those capabilities in this case. I agree that using goggles to help him see better isn't really cheating since they don't directly help with the aiming and positioning of his weapon, but I think his visual acuity is high enough that he can spot Spandam and the other soldiers without zoom. He might use zoom later on though to spot things which are much, much farther away.
@Octogon:
Now I'm almost certain Kabuto has some kind of speed enhancing mechanism. How else would he hit with such accuracy despite the wind. Even the guns couldn't reach him, they called it impossible.
Why couldn't Usopp just have a really good 'wind sense'? Many skilled sharpshooters have this 'sense,' though Usopp's appears to be on a whole different level. Having good 'wind sense' is one of the things that makes a skilled sniper skilled.
It's WAY too much. The Buster Call is described as the government's strongest force. The guy, whether it's souped up or not, fights with a slingshot. The seven members and Franky beating it straight out of the CP9 fights is even a bit hard to imagine.
Defeating the Buster Call is mostly a matter of sinking slow moving ships. It's not so hard to imagine Usopp doing that. He's sunk ships before with only single shots from the ship's cannon. Granted they're much larger ships than ones he's ever dealt with before, and granted he's fighting with a slingshot, but we don't know yet the full extent of this slingshot's power. Remember, this is a slingshot that's been enhanced with amazing Skypeian technology, technology that is rare and practically unknown to blue sea dwellers. Also remember that these ships will be bombarding the island with their cannons from out at sea. The mugiwars don't have a boat, nor do any of the other mugiwaras have the range Usopp has. Usopp is probably the mugiwara who's in the best position to deal with the Buster Call ships. Granted the others may have a hand in holding off any Vice Admirals who may land on the island, while Usopp keeps himself at a safe distance and sinks the ships.
Yeah it may seem a little much for Usopp to have such power at this stage of the story, but maybe using this power handicaps Usopp in some way. For example, maybe Kabuto needs to be planted to call forth it's true power. For those familiar with Starcraft, it's like how the Terran siege tank can plant itself transforming into a stationary super powerful cannon. Great for long range battles but not so great for battles that are close range. The same general idea would be at play here.
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@HTC:
I was trying to find the chapter where ussop first gets his goggles but was unsuccessfull :(
Sorry for the late response: There isn't an image showing him purchase his goggles except for the anime I think. Oda made a concept sketch (and later showed it in the volume of the Logue Town arc) but the scene was scratched from the chapter at the beginning of Logue Town.
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Defeating the Buster Call is mostly a matter of sinking slow moving ships. It's not so hard to imagine Usopp doing that. He's sunk ships before with only single shots from the ship's cannon. Granted they're much larger ships than ones he's ever dealt with before, and granted he's fighting with a slingshot, but we don't know yet the full extent of this slingshot's power.
Um….yeah. Put five VAs on a rowboat, and I'm sure they'd have a way to fight back against one pair of good eyes with a "super slingshot," which isn't a cannon.
He's probably best suited, but 10 ships is just a little beyond him.
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If he can hit the ships before they're close enough from the shore, I don't see what the VA's can do.
Though I don't think anybody expect him to sink 10 ships, but attack BC's weak point for massive damage, using the full extent of Kabuto's power, why not.
Cause honestly if he build a new weapon just to throw 5 explosive stars at once and the fancy phoenix stuff, he's a hopeless retard. There must be something else to Kabuto, it must have a greater destructive power than his previous slingshot.
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God, one person says they don't like Usopp, and it's the most illogical thing in the world.
I used to like Usopp, now I don't. He's close to being my least favorite Strawhat right now.
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Um….yeah. Put five VAs on a rowboat, and I'm sure they'd have a way to fight back against one pair of good eyes with a "super slingshot," which isn't a cannon.
He's probably best suited, but 10 ships is just a little beyond him.
Put all five Vice Admirals in a rowboat. Yeah, that's a really smart idea, because what is a rowboat really if not a very easily sinkable target?
You may not see the potential in Kabuto's power, but I think the potential is there for Kabuto to be more powerful than the Marine's most powerful cannons, the Buster Call cannons, something I think no Marine would have ever thought possible. I think the Marines may be way too over confident in the range and power of their Buster Call cannons and the armor of their ships, thinking no cannon/ship would ever be able to sink these warships as these ships outclass all others in range and armor. Maybe that's where Usopp comes in, to take them by surprise and break that confidence. Think impact dials, impact dials, impact dials… and maybe even reject dials.
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To Natty and Cap'n Carter: I don't mind if you guys hate Usopp. I like Usopp, but it's not the end of the world if you guys don't like him. :) Just thought I'd say this in the event a flamewar develops! Everyone has their favorite characters in One Piece. No one has to like all of them! Hell, I don't really like Nami to be honest. Waits for death threats But I don't mind if people like her. To each his/her own!
What matters is that we all like One Piece, hence this message board to share our appreciation for Oda's wonderful story! That's hokey, I know, but it had to be said. So let's not bicker over petty crap such as not liking a certain character. Everyone has their own opinions! -
@Natty:
its not really the nose, if not i would hate Kaku; and i love Kaku.
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the reason i dont like Usopp is because of the way his mouth is drawn. he looks like a clown and i am a little scared of clowns. also the way his mouth is drawn give me the impression that Usopp has really bad breath. i think the same thing when he is giving a really moving speech and he yells and his spit comes out of his mouth. i know it sounds weird, but thats the first thing i thought of when i saw Usopp in the manga. i mean, i guess i can say Usopp has his funny and cool moments. i dont know, i feel weird now saying it.
again, sorry to offend anyone. i really enjoy this forum. i dont wanna have people hate me on this forum, because of an opinion. i dont hate usopp, maybe i overexaggerated, but i dont think of him too highly either.
You hate him because of his mouth? Uh..okay….
"Walks outside to be in the real world"
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Speaking of Usopp sinking the Buster Call and the VAs..well, how they fight is a factor. Let's say that the Vice Admirals are super strong, well…
Are they Logias? I doubt it, we're running low on elements.
Are they super snipers? Wow, that'd be a coincidence huh?
Do they have super strength? Well, how would this allow you to block small exploding stars from miles away?
Super speed? Well, could they run on water?
Of course, it's also possible that the Vice Admirals are just a bunch of high ranked shmucks, good enough to reach the rank of Vice admiral, but not good enough to be an Admiral like Aokiji. Or they are super powerful, but we never get to see it over the destruction that those ships cause. I mean, everyone's afraid of the Buster Call, not those Vice Admirals. Cannonballs and fire fill Robin's nightmares, while only future Admiral AoKiji and Akainu stood out. Why didn't we see those other awesome 3 vice admirals?
Also, the Buster Call most certainly won't be the greatest threat to the SHs, their future opponents like the Shichibukai and Admirals will be far more deadly, otherwise the marines would have used the Buster Call to kill their enemies already. And don't give me that, "it would cost too many resources to bring them down," because the marines have to have more then 10 warship and 5 Vice Admirals.
Come to think of it, the Buster Call may only be fit to destroy islands and large masses.
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Great Chapter
Thanqs BF :dJust one idiot question
who's Oda's meaning by "The Great Hero" , Soge King or Spaindam, becoz this Mother f** didn't stop talkin' about himself as a Hero of The world …. ?
think Soge King after will be the 4th one in Sraw Hat pirates to have abounty after Luffy, Zorro, Franky ... believe me .. my propheties always happen -
Do they have super strength? Well, how would this allow you to block small exploding stars from miles away?
probably, this is OP after all.
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Great Chapter
Thanqs BF :dJust one idiot question
who's Oda's meaning by "The Great Hero" , Soge King or Spaindam, becoz this Mother f** didn't stop talkin' about himself as a Hero of The world …. ?
think Soge King after will be the 4th one in Sraw Hat pirates to have abounty after Luffy, Zorro, Franky ... believe me .. my propheties always happenI think he meant both.. kinda.
Spandam saying "Whooo I'm a hero" and then a REAL hero appears. :D Typical Oda, IMO. -
@Natty:
the reason i dont like Usopp is because of the way his mouth is drawn. he looks like a clown and i am a little scared of clowns. also the way his mouth is drawn give me the impression that Usopp has really bad breath. i think the same thing when he is giving a really moving speech and he yells and his spit comes out of his mouth. i know it sounds weird, but thats the first thing i thought of when i saw Usopp in the manga. i mean, i guess i can say Usopp has his funny and cool moments. i dont know, i feel weird now saying it.
Wow, that's actually a really awesome and unique reason to not like Usopp. XD I would never thought of that before. Definately much more interesting than the usual "he's a whiney cowardly bitch". I'm not being sarcastic either. Don't worry, nobody will hate you for an opinion. Just as long as you respect others' opinions.
Honestly I had a bit of trouble with the way his mouth was drawn in the beginning too, but I got used to it. I decided that big luscious lips are sexy. XD At least with Sogeking, you can't see his lips anymore. XD
PS - I doubt he has bad breath, he brushes…..although it seems Luffy brushes with a raw fish. XD
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My feeling is that the Strawhats will defeat the Buster Call. Above and beyond Robin needing to learn to believe in her nakama, she also needs to be shown that the Buster Call isn't something that can defeat them. It's the last demon from her past that needs to be exorcised.
How it should be done, I have no idea. I just really think that the Strawhats should be able to save almost everyone and maybe even keep the island from being destroyed.
One thing I'm wondering, though… Isn't Garp at Marine HQ with Koby and Helmeppo? He's a Vice Admiral, BC is coming from Marine HQ....
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It's WAY too much. The Buster Call is described as the government's strongest force. The guy, whether it's souped up or not, fights with a slingshot. The seven members and Franky beating it straight out of the CP9 fights is even a bit hard to imagine.
I feel defeating the BC would be a messianic accomplishment for any of the Straw Hats. If they do decide to challenge it, I've no doubt SogeKing probably would play a major role - but given the BC's strength and depth of emotional importance (it destroyed Ohara and massacred all its residents!), the best chance of defeating it would be through a display of unity and friendship from the nakama Saul promised Robin would find.
(Though, with that said, I agree with those who say the BC is probably a fight for another day)
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Wow, that's actually a really awesome and unique reason to not like Usopp. XD I would never thought of that before. Definately much more interesting than the usual "he's a whiney cowardly bitch". I'm not being sarcastic either. Don't worry, nobody will hate you for an opinion. Just as long as you respect others' opinions.
Honestly I had a bit of trouble with the way his mouth was drawn in the beginning too, but I got used to it. I decided that big luscious lips are sexy. XD At least with Sogeking, you can't see his lips anymore. XD
PS - I doubt he has bad breath, he brushes…..although it seems Luffy brushes with a raw fish. XD
@CosmicDebris: i know it sounds unique, and if you really think about it it also sounds shallow.:blink: Thanks for the compliment though. I wouldnt dislike Usopp for being a coward at times, i guess its normal for him. In conclusion, Usopp has a good heart, ill give him that, just his character design is kinda, meh. i just dont wanna get people angry at me becuase: OMGZoRz!!!11 i dun lyk Usopp!!!111. which brings me to my next point…....
@joekido the second: i dont wanna start a argument, over a character i may not think is the best in One Piece, with a member who has a colored name. remember: it my and my silly/crazy/retarded/stupid opinion. you dont have to take it as anything, but that. i dont think im insane for not liking how his mouth was drawn. i mean thats the human part humans tend to look at the most anyway. therefore, i think it was natural. i just dont think my opinion was THAT far-fetched. and if it offended you, i am truly sorry.
@Agmaster: yes.
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^ Don't worry about it. :) And Joe can't do anything to you, he's main site maintenance only~
Now, can we all drop this and get back to the wild speculation, the gratitude to Battle Franky, and boring character analyzation that these threads are so well known for?
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Put all five Vice Admirals in a rowboat. Yeah, that's a really smart idea, because what is a rowboat really if not a very easily sinkable target?
That's….precisely my point. It was a joke.
Notice, people. Without Franky, Robin would have been hit by that hail of bullets. You absolutely cannot say "Usopp would have," because he wasn't going to and didn't. A hail of bullets. That was too sudden and fast for Usopp to stop. Now imagine a hail of cannons and explosives from 10 battleships.
And about the VAs being able to stop slingshot explosives….Franky punched out his exploding star and took one to the face unharmed. Point blank, which should have been more effective. So five strong guys....
Usopp's a hell of a sniper, but unless he has Jesus Boshi, he's not gonna beat an entire fleet designed to annihilate whole islands.
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but unless he has Jesus Boshi
You mean some completely over the top new technique pulled out of nowhere, like a monster transformation due to drugs abuse, a flaming foot or some bullshit illusion/aura technique? Yeah, inconceivable. After all this is One Piece we're talking about.
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i still think the tower is going to fall on the fleet of ships
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You mean some completely over the top new technique pulled out of nowhere, like a monster transformation due to drugs abuse, a flaming foot or some bullshit illusion/aura technique? Yeah, inconceivable. After all this is One Piece we're talking about.
THAT just made my day…
And honestly, I think people expect to much from BC...it's big ships shooting big cannonballs...that's it.
A big ship is an easy target...sure, many cannonballs are coming, but what if Usopp moves to a different place? It's not like they will easily kill Usopp, I mean, it took them how long to destroy Ohara? Must have been A LONG time to destory the whole thing and some characters seem to have lived for quite a while...
On the other hand, Usopp needs to do what? Destory 10 ships, that's it. Should be easy for Usopp.
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Yow Aldrich where did you hide your avatar I liked that one (Great footballer ;-) )
On-topic : I think like someone mentioned before if Usopp sticks his Kabuto in the ground that he can use the elasticity of his staff and the rubber to shoot canon-like objects with super speed and force capable of destroying schips
So I m waiting for that.And as to what s gonna happen next I think:
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All the mugiwara s will come together at the gate anihilate Spanda and the gatekeepers and take the boat with kokoro and chimney –-> if Buster call is in their way they ll fight it and will try to destroy it or they ll bypass it dressed as marines
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The tower falls down --> makes a bridge to Enies Lobies ---> the mugiwaras go back and joines FF GL and Giants and escape from behind before it gets ugly
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THAT just made my day…
And honestly, I think people expect to much from BC...it's big ships shooting big cannonballs...that's it.
I think the story to this point proves it's something bigger than that. The Admirals alone are enough. If Buster Call was something that could be so easily wiped out, it would make the whole thing very silly.
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I personally don't think the BC is all that. it's just ships firing cannons at a target that can't defend itself. at least, that was the case w/ ohara. the other reason i think it isn't all that is b/c Sauro took out 5 of the ships himself. So, i'm really hoping the SH take on the BC.
Now, the VA's, they are the real meat of the BC. and I'm putting my money on Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, and Franky being able to take on a VA each in a 1-on-1, that leaves 1 more VA, and maybe we'll get some team up w/ Nami & Usopp, or maybe it's Robin's time to shine, and she'll take on the 5th VA.
I don't really know the extent of the power of Kabuto, but i'm betting there's a bit more to it than firing 5 boshi's at once and fancy flame starts as well. Just using the Perfect Climatact as an indicator, you' expect the person who made it to make something at least as equally powerful, if not more powerful than said Climatact. Now, if Kabuto's firepower can take out a ship, who knows. Nonetheless, i don't expect Uso….iie...Sogeking to take on BC on his own, but i'm hoping for a reunion, and a bit of organizing w/ the legendary hero himself setting up the tactics for becoming the ship-sinker we all hope he'll become :)
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You know it was the Buster Call that burnt down Ohara, not The VAs.
Also, Saul took out 6 (?) of the ships, and the island STILL got destroyed.
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I think the story to this point proves it's something bigger than that. The Admirals alone are enough.
I think part of the reason why the BC is considered this unstoppable force by so many is because there are so very few weapons/ships in existence (that is if any exist at all) that can contend with a marine warship. They have the range and they have the armor. Maybe Usopp with his inventiveness in creating weapons, and with the help of Skypeian technology, technology that very few blue sea dwellers know about, will change all that.
If Buster Call was something that could be so easily wiped out, it would make the whole thing very silly.
I don’t really understand how Usopp defeating the BC would make it weak and silly. Arlong had his ass handed to him by Luffy. Was he silly? Certainly not to Nami and the Cocoyashi villagers he wasn't. Likewise, Crocodile was defeated by Luffy? Was he silly? Then there's Enel… well you get the point. If a seemingly unstoppable opponent is defeated by a mugiwara it doesn’t mean he/she is silly or weak, certainly not to those who feared his/her power. It just means that the mugiwara who defeated the opponent is that strong. If Usopp ends up defeating the BC, all it would mean is he’s THAT strong now, not that the BC is weak or silly.
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You know it was the Buster Call that burnt down Ohara, not The VAs.
Also, Saul took out 6 (?) of the ships, and the island STILL got destroyed.
Yes, I know it was the BC and not the VA that burnt down Ohara,
but my point was that Ohara did nothing to defend itself from the BC.My point on Saul was that he alone took out half the fleet, going to show attacking the BC produces results.
about the 6 ships, i thought akainu took out the 6th ship… i need to re-read the flashback :)
btw, completely off-topic, are you the same Kenechi on bleachforums?
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The ultimate irony would be Robin actually sinking a bunch of the buster call ships this time around. I don't think this will happen though, I don't think the strawhats will fight the buster call.
I'd wager that Garp's swordsman alone would give Zoro a pretty hard fight, now multiply that by three, the scene with Garp and his immediate crew basically demonstrated that not only are Vice Admirals extremely powerful, but that their underlings are as well. In other words, that their ship is filled with higher quality marines than the ones you generally see.
Remember Garp's swordsman? I think that guy could give Zoro a run for his money. Now consider that there will be three vice admirals + their awesome crews + a huge naval bombardment. And this assumes that none of the vice admirals are like aokiji was when he'd been a vice admiral (if there is anyone of that caliber then it's obvious they can't fight the buster call). If the strawhats were at full strength, and didn't have to worry about the well being of certain crewmates, then yes, they might be able to fight off the buster call (maybe).
Chopper is probably in need of emergency medical treatment, that is to say, he's probably dying. Last time this happened he had a really good doctor to help him recover. I really doubt it'd be too great if he got to be bombarded by the buster call as the other strawhats tried to 'fight' it. Unless the other strawhats are unaware of Chopper's state I think that they should run, not because they 'can't beat' a buster call, but because they shouldn't sacrifice one of their crewmates to look cool.
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You mean some completely over the top new technique pulled out of nowhere, like a monster transformation due to drugs abuse, a flaming foot or some bullshit illusion/aura technique? Yeah, inconceivable. After all this is One Piece we're talking about.
Lol. I'm pretty sure Sogeking has powerful attacks hidden on his sleeve.
People are still underestimating him. He has not done everything he is meant to do in this arc.And, if people can accept Sanji putting fire on his feet or Zoro growing extras arms, why is it so hard to expect something big coming out of Usopp's bag of tricks?
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I don’t really understand how Usopp defeating the BC would make it weak and silly.
That's not what I mean. I'm sure the strawhats WILL defeat Buster Call. But for it to just be wiped out so easily as to say, "Oh, Buster Call was no big deal", that would seem silly. And this is of greater caliber to an extent, considering that it's not one person, but several like Ao Kiji who Luffy was no match for the first time around.
There was nobody on Ohara except Saulo who even stood a chance to defend it. On one hand you can say that goes to show that it's not that strong, but on the other hand,you can say that we don't really know how effective a large scale challege could be. As someone pointed out, Saulo, an admiral and giant, was not able to defeat Buster Call. -
Two words: RIP Spandam. I'm sorry, but I was shaking with excitement when Sogeking showed up. I now cannot wait to see Usopp's new attacks.
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You know it was the Buster Call that burnt down Ohara, not The VAs.
Also, Saul took out 6 (?) of the ships, and the island STILL got destroyed.
Which is why the BC is crap. Saul toook down so many ships. If they all had Va's, none of them seem to do anything cept Aokiji. The BC is a joke blown out or proportions. Besides, Robin was a kid back then. Of course she was scared shitless. What little 8 year old wouldn't be?
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I don't got much to add except that the whole landmine on the bridge thing seems like it'll play a bigger part later.
it was shown in it's own frame, franky set it off and it looked like a big explosion, and according to the trans i read, it seems like spandam is surprised it worked so well and calls himself a genius [the irony when it fails, methinks]
It wouldn't be the first time he's royally screwed up. Lol.
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That's not what I mean. I'm sure the strawhats WILL defeat Buster Call. But for it to just be wiped out so easily as to say, "Oh, Buster Call was no big deal", that would seem silly. And this is of greater caliber to an extent, considering that it's not one person, but several like Ao Kiji who Luffy was no match for the first time around.
There was nobody on Ohara except Saulo who even stood a chance to defend it. On one hand you can say that goes to show that it's not that strong, but on the other hand,you can say that we don't really know how effective a large scale challege could be. As someone pointed out, Saulo, an admiral and giant, was not able to defeat Buster Call.Saul was not able to defeat Ao-kiji. He would have pwn'd the BC.
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Oooh, wonderful chapter!
Let's see, what I liked most was… the actual proof that Sanji has a left eye! Oh, and the part where Usopp absolutely KICKS ASS!
This has been one of the very best chapters in this arc, Monkey-kun is happy even if Nami didn't show up. Kind of suspicious, she must be up to something. I still say she'll conjure up a huge Mirage Tempo for the getaway.
As to the BC, consider that twenty years have passed, I bet they've become a lot more menacing. We might even get the chance to see lasers, but I'm digging on huge multiple fire cannons and/or flamethrowers to match. Robin should take care of six of the ships, that's the kind of foreshadowing we all enjoy.