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Maybe. But it was still a PIS to think Luffy would stay idle while he was rushing through next to him. We've seen Trebol with very high precision on range attacks.
Yeah, it's not like Law can tank a lot of attacks in his state. Aside from not being a useless sack of glue, I wish Trebol would start to realize the fact he has a logia with good range and utility.
No he has to poke them
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That's pointing not poking ;)
I'm hoping we'll see that hour suddenly turn into 30 minutes, then 10 minutes, etc. as the contraction starts accelerating.
I don't think there's a need for that. If one hour is how long it takes to resorb the cage from whole island- to Dofla- sized, it will probably have reached the boundaries of the capital by the 30 minutes mark. At which point the mass slicing is bound to start, what with everyone being gathered in there.
Or they will find shelter underground. We don't know how far below the ground the cage reaches.
I'm hoping we'll see that hour suddenly turn into 30 minutes, then 10 minutes, etc. as the contraction starts accelerating.
I don't really see why this would happen. Doflamingo caused the birdcage to start shrinking and he doesn't have a reason to lie to Luffy about how long it will take. Maybe if Doflamingo decides he's in danger and needs to speed it up.
Mathematically, even at a constant rate the instantaneous percent of area removed will accelerate. That is, 19% of the remaining area is lost as the cage shrinks from a 10km radius to 9km, but 36% is lost when it shrinks from 5km to 4km. The people need time to freak out and pray to their Strawhat of choice as they're packed together like chattel, and that works a lot better when they've got time to reflect on their impending doom.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
It's been startling to read the reactions to Law & Doffy's powers here
Law's Ass-Pull move (or Room, whatever it's called) did pretty much what he's been doing all along. I don't love it myself but Oda explains the plan fairly simply so I'm going with it. I am looking forward to Mansherry completely cry-healing Law's Nameless Swap-out Mook just for the howls of outrage from the Drama = Death crowd here. Hell, if he makes this years character arena I'll vote for him.
Even more puzzling is the reaction to Dofla's internal thread-healing. I've kinda been expecting it as it's not an uncommon move for characters in manga with similar power-sets, the villianbin Kill La Kill to name just one.
The only unexpected part is that it's actually slowed Dofla down. For me it's more of an equalizer and I'm starting to believe Luffy can take Dofla. Especially as we watch Dofla's self control erode.
Trebol hasn't been taken out so, again, surprised people upset at the kick that sidelined him.
Whatever his ultimate relationship is with Dofla it's a point to remember he did take a subservient role to him. It's likely that even if he has been manipulating him all these years that Trebol decided his protege was the better leader. And over-confidence has been a hallmark for this crew.
I'm glad that this chapter seems to indicate we are down to the wire between Luffy & Dofla, am looking forward to seeing a decider between them.
Also good to remember that the countdown has begun & there's one hour left. People complaining that Fujitora is not doing anything need to understand that everything will be happening at once now. Fuji not being shown doesn't mean he's not currently doing anything.
And I did say glad the L v. D. headliner has begun but honestly I'm more interested in what's happening with Koala & mysterious enemy under the palace. Yes, that's most likely Burgess but it might be someone else… like Meadows. :ninja:
I don't really see why this would happen. Doflamingo caused the birdcage to start shrinking and he doesn't have a reason to lie to Luffy about how long it will take. Maybe if Doflamingo decides he's in danger and needs to speed it up.
That's what I was thinking.
Trebol hasn't been taken yet because:
-Sabo will destroy him
-Trebol hides a BIG SECRET. My theorie is that Trebol is a D. He gave Doflamingo his fruit and he survived all the time because of the "D" luck. Trebol is the symbol of good luck and is the "second in command" next to Vergo (when we see him in the dinner 16 years ago he's sitting next to Dofla). And Dofla full power is when he combo with Trebol.
It reminds me of DBZ, when Frieza said Namek was gonna blow in 5 minutes… Those were the longest 5 minutes of my life.
Guess which animation company is gonna make that 1 hour into an eternity??
It reminds me of DBZ, when Frieza said Namek was gonna blow in 5 minutes… Those were the longest 5 minutes of my life.
Guess which animation company is gonna make that 1 hour into an eternity??
I'm more concerned with how Oda thinks one hour actually adds tension to the scene. This time limit is stupidly generous; and the rest of the Island is going to do what, sit there with "We believe!" on their lips all of the time?
Hello everyone. I am new here, but I'd like to point to something that almost all of you may be missing. CP0 is in Dressrosa, yet they didn't move as of now. Maybe they are the enemy Koala is talking about under the palace. This explains her fear for Luffy.
I'm more concerned with how Oda thinks one hour actually adds tension to the scene. This time limit is stupidly generous; and the rest of the Island is going to do what, sit there with "We believe!" on their lips all of the time?
It is a pretty odd time limit.
With the cage moving inward at that pace, it gives people a pretty good chance to simply run away from the cage for a while and avoid being injured.
I assume that Doffy will be able to speed up the contraction if he wishes.
Either that, or this fight is going to go to Doffy/Luffy will be disabled again in some manner, to set up a final battle with a real and pressing time limit.
That's even more concerning though, considering how many times this fight has false started already.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
Hello everyone. I am new here, but I'd like to point to something that almost all of you may be missing. CP0 is in Dressrosa, yet they didn't move as of now. Maybe they are the enemy Koala is talking about under the palace. This explains her fear for Luffy.
Welcome.
We can't know for sure if they are still on Dressrosa. They might have just left after announcing that the news were fake.
But even if they stayed, I don't see a reason for leaving mayhem through Dofla's palace since they are allies. It's looks like something a wild animal like Burgess would do.
It is a pretty odd time limit.
With the cage moving inward at that pace, it gives people a pretty good chance to simply run away from the cage for a while and avoid being injured.
It's not like anyone has anywhere else they can go though. Sooner or later Birdcage contracts and we get 'Doflamingo Presents: Dressrosa: Will It Blend?'.
I mean it's not like the guy is a nihilist/ sadist with psychopathic tendencies or anything.
I'm more concerned with how Oda thinks one hour actually adds tension to the scene. This time limit is stupidly generous; and the rest of the Island is going to do what, sit there with "We believe!" on their lips all of the time?
I suppose Fuji and Riku could engage in some philosophic discussion on moral with Riku while the rest enjoy Kinemon fire tricks or make random drawings come to live. With so many out there and so much time they have quite a lot of option to entertain themselves.
It's not like they have any real reason to get bored or be worried. They some fun abilities, some badass Zoro, a part-time admiral and some neat sense tears. Sure Luffy and Law could die but no one said it was easy to be a pirate.
It is a pretty odd time limit.
With the cage moving inward at that pace, it gives people a pretty good chance to simply run away from the cage for a while and avoid being injured.
I assume that Doffy will be able to speed up the contraction if he wishes.
Either that, or this fight is going to go to Doffy/Luffy will be disabled again in some manner, to set up a final battle with a real and pressing time limit.
That's even more concerning though, considering how many times this fight has false started already.
Exactly my thought. Either the fight is actually going to actually take almost an hour to finish, which is insane because the Island is full of people that could go after Flamingo in said time limit, even on foot, the birdcage is going to start contracting faster, which makes me question why would Doffy use such a arbitrary long time limit in the first place, or Luffy is getting beaten/disabled here, which is terrible pace wise, especially since as an Arc Villain, Doffy can't be beaten by anybody but Luffy.
This is deeply disturbing, when I think about it's implications…
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It's not like anyone has anywhere else they can go though. Sooner or later Birdcage contracts and we get 'Doflamingo Presents: Dressrosa: Will It Blend?'.
I mean it's not like the guy is a nihilist/ sadist with psychopathic tendencies or anything.
They can go to him. And beat him up…
I know Fuji had little presence in this arc after Birdcage went up, but that does not justify completly ignoring he is there.
Unless you are arguing he is going to let Doffy kill everybody, including himself, while going "Duuuuh, I'm going to have so much evidence against him when he kills us all, I'm so smart."?
It is a pretty odd time limit.
With the cage moving inward at that pace, it gives people a pretty good chance to simply run away from the cage for a while and avoid being injured.
I assume that Doffy will be able to speed up the contraction if he wishes.
Either that, or this fight is going to go to Doffy/Luffy will be disabled again in some manner, to set up a final battle with a real and pressing time limit.
That's even more concerning though, considering how many times this fight has false started already.
How long luffy fights in-universe, usually?
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They can go to him. And beat him up…
I know Fuji had little presence in this arc after Birdcage went up, but that does not justify completly ignoring he is there.
Unless you are arguing he is going to let Doffy kill everybody, including himself, while going "Duuuuh, I'm going to have so much evidence against him when he kills us all, I'm so smart."?
Well Fuji didn't do anything when he announced he was going to kill everybody so I guess Doffly don't worry that. As for Fuji He'll probably say something cryptic while looking at the palace or we learn he is observing their figth and feels like enjoying it.
Can anybody convert one piece time into real life? 1 hour in One Piece can be like 2 months full of chapters lol
It can't take the full hour, everyone would be dead if it did. This isn't an event where there's instantaneous destruction like in Alabasta or Fishman Island, it's a process that should cause everyone to be dead at the end of it. In other words, it's not a hard time limit.
What's tiring me with this arc is how it's the third in a row where the Strawhats end up as the heroes of the entire population. It's not the first time, but there's always been a few islands here and there where they act more like… well... pirates. Being heroes isn't a requirement for finding One Piece nor for dealing with the Marines and World Government. I guess I want the citizens of Dressrosa to stand up for themselves and at least try to do stuff instead of sitting on their butts hoping for a random pirate to save the day.
Among the numerous characters this arc, I feel like we lack a representative of the people of Dressrosa. Someone who voices their thoughts and their emotions, instead of the Royal Family. In all honesty, it doesn't make sense - they were hated until just an hour ago, and yet seem to represent all of the Dressrosian people. But how does it feel to actually BE a citizen of this country at the moment? To suddenly find out you betrayed your first king who was manipulated, that you let a manipulative ass take over, that you forgot half the people you know and they were used as slaves? Where is that perspective in this mess? The closest is Kyros, but I wouldn't call him a normal citizen.
People are defending him by saying he got overwhelmed by emotions. Right in front of the enemy. That is definition of stupid.
Is being emotional considered stupid? Not saying he was/is
You, on the other hand, argue he could not possibly be stupid, because he is right hand of a mastermind.
And I stand by my words
Your argument counters theirs, it is only proper you provide alternative.
I don't have time to be making counterarguments Darth!
Earlier I joked how this fight looked like something out of Bleach…
Just now, I realized Law told Dofla what his attack did. :O
So, we have a turn-based battle with characters waiting for their AP to fill up.
We have Law Aizening Trebol with his line how his Room was up all along.
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And yeah, Law explains what his ability does, possibly helping Dofla react faster.
Lol, and then there's this thing:
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Oh I'm not implying anything. Just find it incredibly amusing.
That's pointing not poking ;)
Looking at the visual effects in that panel and the moving sword blur i don't think so (the anime also animated it as poking if that counts). But it's definitevely not "pointing" since he had to push 4 hearts out of their bodies
Lol, the guys Sabo released from the prisions in the coliseum get out just to realize they're gonna be sliced in no time.
Can anybody convert one piece time into real life? 1 hour in One Piece can be like 2 months full of chapters lol
Whether it's 1 hour or 12 hours what's the difference, the difference is 6 months 1 week and 2 cigarette breaks.
The thought just hit me. Are they going to do an anime after one piece is finished that actually does service to the manga? I'd hope so, that'd be swell.
….One Piece... Brotherhood? That would be pretty darn appreciated.
I think there is a project right now that tries to remove filler and general BS from the already existent anime, called One Pace. Of course, a fresh take would be better, since some of the BS is fairly integrated and I imagine cannot be easily removed.
When you put it like that, I guess this fight was very well written.
Or not. These kind of excuses remind me of certain parts of Naruto fandom. No matter how silly a character would act, they would find a way to justify it. Same would go for asspull techniques. And the same goes for a certain part of Bleach fandom.
What would need to happen for you to think:"Man, that was bad, he could have written that part a lot better."?
So you would want Trebol do a long range attack, only for Luffy to do the exact same thing?
People would complain that Trebol wasn't paying attention to Luffy there as well and you know it.
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So you would want Trebol do a long range attack, only for Luffy to do the exact same thing?
People would complain that Trebol wasn't paying attention to Luffy there as well and you know it.
I think it would have been a lot more believable if Law just switched places with one of the rocks on the ground and then went after Dofla while he was concentrating on Luffy. In fact Law was actually aiming for Dofla's head, but Dofla noticed something and half dodged the Gamma Knife, getting a wound in the back or chest.
Luffy is about to punch Dofla but Trebol, who was standing right next to Dofla, extends his arm which gets stuck on Luffy and pulls him away from Dofla and throws him into a wall. Then he turns towards Law who is trying to finish Dofla but, before he can do anything, he gets punched or kicked by Luffy, the same way it was done in this chapter. The rest could happen pretty much the way it happened in the chapter. Law falls down exhausted after his attacks didn't work, Dofla tries to finish him, Luffy intervenes…
And you didn't answer my question. It wasn't rhetorical, you know.
Not saying you're in any way obligated to answer it, but I am honestly curious. Everyone has a limit to how much they can take before admitting to themselves that something is just badly done.
@The:
So after thinking about the chapter, I came up with some theories about the immortality operation of Laws fruit, mainly about how it works, and ideas of how it might be used, or possibly has been used by Law already.
We know Law has the ability to remove the heart of a person when he touches a person to remove it. It's been the heart only we've seen, which makes sense with all the heart motifs from this arc. It's safe to assume that he can remove any and all organs as well. We've seen that despite the heart being removed, the person and organ still functions. Perhaps part of the immortality operation is removal of all organs. This allows the person to still be active, but if they get physically hurt in a certain area, the organ will not be hurt, and it won't be fatal due to the organ being okay. The trick would be that the organs would need to be kept safe and hidden, that way no one could come and just stab the heart to kill the person. Doflamingo would easily in his position be able to safely put the organs away.
The next part is a bit trickier, and it depends on if the translations are solid. Before, we thought it was Laws stamina that drained when using his power. This chapter, it was said to be his life force draining. Aohige's summary states that it's his actual life. I'm going to have to go with the idea that his actual life is drained, but if this is not the case, then the argument falls about, but I'll go with it just for argument and discussion sake.
So if Law is using up his life to make and keep his room opened up, perhaps the room is made up of his life energy. Keeping it open could allow some of his life to leak out, and using attacks could probably use up his life force. Even if not the case, his use of the room is connected to his life in some way. If we look back to Thriller Bark, we saw Kuma having the ability to remove someone's pain, and transfer it to someone else. If Kuma can remove a persons pain and transfer it to someone else, then Law, who is able to switch personalities and do all sorts of medical stuff, should be able to do something similar. Perhaps like a blood transfusion, Law can do a life transfusion, only Law can only take his life and give it to someone else.
If that is the case, then it's not really an immortality operation, but something that expands a persons lifespan, and by taking out their organs, death can't apply by many ways that it could happen. There are some other theories that could come from this, but I won't go into detail, mainly that it would be interesting that people think it is immortality that happens. My best guess is that either someone had the operation, and when they were shot in the head or heart, they were fine; or it is a cover up by some one in the WG for reasons we don't know. Either way, if there was some one (or some people), that have been around for 100's of years, they might have to have the operation every so often to stay alive. In some ways, it would be like a person giving up an organ that diminishes their life, and prolongs another persons life for so long.
With this theory in mind about the operation, I have two ideas about what could happen with Law using it. Luffy has a near gear that expends his life force quite a bit. From many battles, his life has diminished to the point where he will die very soon. Law, having been with him for a number of adventures, decides that Luffy is the one who should become Pirate King. He decided to give Luffy his life, so that he may continue to go on, and become the Pirate King.
The second theory is one I think could be more likely. In Impel Down, everyone was surprised that Luffy was able to hold up for so long, and thought he was dead. He got up, but was warned that his life span had significantly decreased. Perhaps it was much more than they thought. Luffy was down badly after Aces death, and was in very bad condition. There is a possibility that his organs were in bad shape. Law, while treating Luffy, saw he was in bad shape and noticed that he had very little time to live. Seeing something in him, he decides to give a significant amount of his life to him, even though he doesn't know why he's doing it. Luffy is alive because Law extended his life so he could fight on. Perhaps this could lead Law to a point where he's back to his childhood, where he only has three years to live.
So that's my theories, with much conjecture. While it relies on a number of speculations, I feel it's plausible enough. Let me know what you think.
The only thing i can add is that just like what was mention this chapter regarding Law using is life force to sustain room, the immortality operation is base off this. Basically it requires the user while performing the operation to keep the room up to the point that it drains their life force due to strain, fatigue, energy etc., this can also be as a result of the level of operation they would need to perform that would probably take days to do.
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I don't know. Seems to me that it's a lot easier to notice and react to a full grown man than to a fly buzzing around.
Anyway, him getting kicked isn't as much of an issue as him just standing next to Dofla and waiting for him and Law to deliver their lines before trying to do anything. It just breaks my immersion. You're gonna throw a ship at the same building your crewmate is in the second you realize you fell into a trap, but you're gonna just stand and comment while your captain is being stabbed in the chest?
Well, as long as the captain's knees don't touch the ground, everything should be fine.
Is it the first time in a movie, manga or anime, even real life that a fight is going on and somebody decide to sit it out because they have the utmost confidence in the person fighting that no matter what they will win against their opponent?. The only time Trebol try to do anything on screen was when doffy was in danger or when he tried to glue law or the last chapter when we heard a name attack from him. Not saying it is the greatest thing Oda did but in know way is it fck fck what is this shit.
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Huh, I enjoyed the chapter, don
t see what the big problem is with Law having one big, last moment of trying to settle things with Doflamingo and coming really close to killing him. I thought it was very reminiscent of Wiper almost killing Enel and then him suddenly coming back to life and annihilating Wiper, and that moment was awesome as well. Though while the Skypiea arc is pretty well-liked and by no means seen as a lowpoint of One Piece, Im sure if some of the members here would have been reading week-to-week back then, they would have been screaming for that arc to finally end, too. Yes, Dressrosa has been going on for a long time, maybe too long, and I think that has tainted atleast some readers subjective view of the arc as a whole. Rushing a final fight that has been a long time coming would be a huge disservice for the whole arc, however. Even if you are tired of this arc, it is nonsense to demand from Oda to end this immediately, because I`m sure, when finally reading chapters like this in volume format, the pacing will work a lot better and the final fight will a be a lot more satisfying because Oda did not just rush through it and thereby sell Doflamingo short as a villain just in order to get to a new arc.How should this work-out anyway? Should Doflamingo just drop dead suddenly so the arc can end quickly. People complain about Doffy not getting enough credit as the villain, about Trebol not getting a full fight so far, about Fujitora not doing much in the story, about the minor villains not getting enough characterization…but at the same time, they want the arc to end already! How the hell does that mesh? You can
t have both. I guess you can fault Oda for throwing so many balls in the air at the same time and then having trouble juggling them all at the same time, but you cant just expect him to drop all the balls suddenly just to get it over with. Because hey, that really would ruin the whole act completely.And whats with the sudden complaining about the Doffy pirates being bad villains?? It`s funny, not so long ago, the whole forum wanted a Doflamingo pirates spinoff, because they were so much fun, but now suddenly they are all lame and boring, because....what? Because their fights only got focus for one chapter each? While before that, some members here expected all of them to be defeated in one single chapter similiar to the Fishmen Pirates? Please tell me, how the hell are the villains of this arc worse then other well-liked villain groups like Baroque Works or CP9? How were characters like Miss Merry-Christmas or Kumadori that much more fleshed out than Pica or Dellinger? Reread those arcs and you will see that the current villains, despite having shorter fights, got just as much, if not more screentime and characterisation.
EDIT: Are people actually arguing if Trebol is stupid or not? Lol! OF COURSE he is, he is a complete moron. I mean, he stands around, snot hanging form his nose, laughing like a complete imbecile. Don
t you remember him destroying the building Sugar, the person he was supposed to protect, was in, just because he was angry and wasnt thinking? Him getting enraged by Doffy being attacked and making an unwise move is completely in character. Being a moron does not mean he is bad at his job, though. Look at Kizaru. Guy is to dumb to answer his phone.
I think you have some good points especially about Trebol but people will just find other arguments to disprove this, and in no way i am saying there is no fault with the arc.
I think it would have been a lot more believable if Law just switched places with one of the rocks on the ground and then went after Dofla while he was concentrating on Luffy. In fact Law was actually aiming for Dofla's head, but Dofla noticed something and half dodged the Gamma Knife, getting a wound in the back or chest.
Luffy is about to punch Dofla but Trebol, who was standing right next to Dofla, extends his arm which gets stuck on Luffy and pulls him away from Dofla and throws him into a wall. Then he turns towards Law who is trying to finish Dofla but, before he can do anything, he gets punched or kicked by Luffy, the same way it was done in this chapter. The rest could happen pretty much the way it happened in the chapter. Law falls down exhausted after his attacks didn't work, Dofla tries to finish him, Luffy intervenes…
And you didn't answer my question. It wasn't rhetorical, you know.
Not saying you're in any way obligated to answer it, but I am honestly curious. Everyone has a limit to how much they can take before admitting to themselves that something is just badly done.
So you want Law to pull a move that is more align with Naruto than switching with Luffy to surprise Doflamingo head on. To me that wouldn't work at all. In fact, considering the history between Law and Doflamingo it would downright insulting for Law to attack and try to defeat Doflamingo from behind in a sneak attack. Law would seem like the person (Like a lot of characters in fiction, nonfiction, etc looking for revenge) who wants Doflamingo to look at him while he's (in this case, somewhat literally) twisting the knife and seeing the life draining from Doflamingo, the man who killed the person who saved his life and cared for him as much as his dead family.
With more thought I could probably come up with a answer to your question but doing it on a phone during my lunch break won't cut it for now.
They can go to him. And beat him up…
I know Fuji had little presence in this arc after Birdcage went up, but that does not justify completly ignoring he is there.
Unless you are arguing he is going to let Doffy kill everybody, including himself, while going "Duuuuh, I'm going to have so much evidence against him when he kills us all, I'm so smart."?
I'd say that Dofla had can create a door for himself and family & planned to be on the other side looking in by now. The resistance put up by Law & Luffy has probably screwed up his plans yet again.
I'm guessing he'll be making a break for it if things get tight in there. Be interesting if after all the Family's screw-ups he's going to bother trying to take them. I'd guess not & that's going to be a sure way to lose their loyalty for sure.
I don't think Fujitora is being ignored so much as defered. We're going to have a lot of things happening at once and probably rotate POVs.
Fuji is an issue I'm prepared to wait until the end of arc to judge but I understand your reasons not to do so.
I'd say that Dofla had can create a door for himself and family & planned to be on the other side looking in by now. The resistance put up by Law & Luffy has probably screwed up his plans yet again.
I'm guessing he'll be making a break for it if things get tight in there. Be interesting if after all the Family's screw-ups he's going to bother trying to take them. I'd guess not & that's going to be a sure way to lose their loyalty for sure.I don't think Fujitora is being ignored so much as defered. We're going to have a lot of things happening at once and probably rotate POVs.
Fuji is an issue I'm prepared to wait until the end of arc to judge but I understand your reasons not to do so.
I can honestly see the cage mending if somebody like zoro try to cut it, i don't know how but Doffy fruit is hax and i seriously can't understand if doffy is the one controlling it or is it moving by itself.
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When i think about Fujitora gravity affecting the birdcage i can't see it been that effective like the move he did when facing sabo (ferocious tiger i think), and my reason for that is the fact that there were building compact together that basically block the force just like wind hitting against a wall. The way i look at it the Birdcage have partition that i think the gravity force will escape and will not be as strong to slow it down just like when Sabo turn into fire and the gravity did not affect him anymore. I am not an expert on gravity though so i might be wrong.
I'd say that Dofla had can create a door for himself and family & planned to be on the other side looking in by now. The resistance put up by Law & Luffy has probably screwed up his plans yet again.
I'm guessing he'll be making a break for it if things get tight in there. Be interesting if after all the Family's screw-ups he's going to bother trying to take them. I'd guess not & that's going to be a sure way to lose their loyalty for sure.
If so, why didn't he started with that?
I mean, by all accounts we have seen none succesful attemps at destroying birdcage, and as he himself has said, there is no point in letting anybody live.
Why take chances?
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When i think about Fujitora gravity affecting the birdcage i can't see it been that effective like the move he did when facing sabo (ferocious tiger i think), and my reason for that is the fact that there were building compact together that basically block the force just like wind hitting against a wall. The way i look at it the Birdcage have partition that i think the gravity force will escape and will not be as strong to slow it down just like when Sabo turn into fire and the gravity did not affect him anymore. I am not an expert on gravity though so i might be wrong.
… That is not how gravity works.
And I highly doubt that one attack was the height of Fuji's abilities.
I had a thought, and forgive me if this has been brought up, but Dofla reviving himself like that is very similar to when Enel did it back in Skypea.
If so, why didn't he started with that?
I mean, by all accounts we have seen none succesful attemps at destroying birdcage, and as he himself has said, there is no point in letting anybody live.
Why take chances?
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... That is not how gravity works.
And I highly doubt that one attack was the height of Fuji's abilities.
The megalomaniac streak? The overconfidence that his crew would've already beaten down all their opponents and at their leisure they could leave & watch their opponents become sashimi? A desire he could get the plan back on track, toyify the nation back to his status quo & not need to restart the plan elsewhere quite yet?
Take your pick.
There are certain things that got my interest and there are things that i see person complaining about that don't bother me that much
1. Trebol- when i first read persons comment on him probably being more important than what he let on coming from the line "do you want the power to exact revenge" i wasn't really buying into it that much but this chapter got me curious due to his line that a "king should not kneel" and the way Doffy reacted as soon as he said that. It seems there is more to him and his relationship with Doffy than meets the eye.
2. Doffy using a gun- is it just me that think this little action let you look at Doffy in a different light, like he is more akin to a real human. I don't know if this was deliberate on Oda's part or Doffy just took on a life of his own. To me it seems that Doffy only killed those he love with a gun, make me wonder if it is a case that when he decide that you are no more his family but he now regards you as a mere human defiling a god he treat you as such tenrybito style (sp).
3. Laws last attack on Doffy- honestly i can't see the reason why it is hard to believe that Law landed that attack on Doffy when Law's Chambles is instantaneous, if we think about it not even Kizaro whose ability is base on light is faster than chambles. Maybe you could say Oda is inconsistent due to what i learnt about the speed of light on this forum. I don't know but Kizaro need to set up mirror to reach a location in light speed while law do it like the snap of a finger puff and he is in front of you. Add to the fact that Law's chambles rely heavily on the element of surprise to get his opponent, yes Doffy defend against it before but that time he was fighting Law one on one and Law's move was basically predictable, while in this chapter Doffy was readying to defend against Luffy's attack when Law appear out of no where.
4. Trebol getting swatted- I can't say it work well, or it was the best decision on Oda's part but i see where he was coming from with that. He just wrote Trebol in that situation to be one that is so concern and caught up that he forgets all reason and neglect his surroundings. Honestly up on till this chapter Doffy was kicking Law and Luffy ass even after taking a Redhawke Trebol have all right to be confident in Doffy's ability to ward off any damage as he don't see Law or Luffy as a treat and i am sure we can agree that both Luffy and Law so far look to be outclassed by Doffy. It was in that moment when he realize Doffy wasn't getting up and Law was explaining everything and crawling towards Doffy that Doffy life was really in danger. Honestly i saw the same scenes in manga so many time when a character realises another one is in danger rushes blindly only to get kick aside i don't know what is so different from it happening in One Piece.
5. Law using is power creatively to fool Doffy- Honestly despite what people say they must admit that Oda put a lot of thought into it and it makes sense base on the way the characters where position, the only thing i can find to counter this is the fact that we never see exactly when it was done as to not make Doffy not notice this but i have read many post explaining this that make some sense
6. Devil fruit haxness- Honestly i have nothing on this, this is the arc of OP devil fruit that is hax to imaginable proportion, the only non hax fruit in this arc is machvise and we could argue that he never use it properly why it was'n't shown as hax, plus Boffalo who seems like a stupid character.
I skipped a little bit of the pages of the thread but can someone explain where Sabo is going. Is he going to Trebol or what? Also have we come to a conclusion as to what Trebol's function will be for next 2-3 weeks? I hope he is not gonna stay as Doffy's cheerleader
I skipped a little bit of the pages of the thread but can someone explain where Sabo is going. Is he going to Trebol or what?
Koala called him to the palace in Chapter 779 (to presumably help with Burgess).
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I would agree with that.
Also, wouldn't he just break the mirrors? With either his kicks, or explosions caused by his lasers?
My thought was that without haki he wouldn't be able to fire a laser through a mirror
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Hello everyone. I am new here, but I'd like to point to something that almost all of you may be missing. CP0 is in Dressrosa, yet they didn't move as of now. Maybe they are the enemy Koala is talking about under the palace. This explains her fear for Luffy.
woah i almost forgot about them . . for sure thats who sabo is gonna fight . if CP0 is there to fight that is. this will get interesting
Looking at the visual effects in that panel and the moving sword blur i don't think so (the anime also animated it as poking if that counts). But it's definitevely not "pointing" since he had to push 4 hearts out of their bodies
Did you remember the anime episode? I will search for it and get back at you. I remember that it was defiantely a poke with Smoker but for the others it seemed much more like he just needed to get them in his room
Did you remember the anime episode? I will search for it and get back at you. I remember that it was defiantely a poke with Smoker but for the others it seemed much more like he just needed to get them in his room
My thought was that without haki he wouldn't be able to fire a laser through a mirror
No, I would agree with that, but his laser still cause massive explosions whenever they hit solid surface. He could, for example, fire them at the feet of his opponents, to cause mirrors shattering explosions. Or just aim for the gaps.
That was an intense chapter. The ragdoll dummy was a nice twist indeed. Though, I don't think of 'counter shock' to be hax.. Nerve signals are electric after all, so this attack is basically just an amplification of them. I am more interested of what he formed the Gamma knife…
And the last page, epic stance... Luffy in seriously pissed mode and well composed.. (opposed to earlier days when he was much more hot blooded in these kind of situations). Though, DoFla damaged but not much inflicted by it.. I expect a fight like with Lucci and Zephyr..
Completly random thought:
You know what would be awesome? We know that Blackbeard Pirates hunt Devil Fruit users and take their powers for themselfs. However, it has never explicitly been stated that they need to kill people for it.
So… Burgess beats Sabo and takes Mera Mera from him? Now this, this a development I would like.
Completly random thought:
You know what would be awesome? We know that Blackbeard Pirates hunt Devil Fruit users and take their powers for themselfs. However, it has never explicitly been stated that they need to kill people for it.
So… Burgess beats Sabo and takes Mera Mera from him? Now this, this a development I would like.
This belongs in the dumb predictions thread.
However, it has never explicitly been stated that they need to kill people for it.
Actually, it has.
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And I'm pretty sure Blackbeard needs to be present as well (if it's part of his power).
@Rotten:
This belongs in the dumb predictions thread.
Shrugs I know, there is no way Oda is taking fruit away from his golden boy Sabo, whom I fully expect to casually stomp Burgess if they fight again.
All I'm saying is that it could be an interesting development. And Blackbeard pirates not sucking on panel, for a change.
Or did you refer to them not killing people to get fruits? Because that is so going to be the case; Oda killing characters? I'll sooner believe he was drunk and bashing heads of baby seals.
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@Galaxy:
Actually, it has.
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And I'm pretty sure Blackbeard needs to be present as well (if it's part of his power).
Ah, so I was remembering it wrongly, I apologise.
Carry on then. Though I question whatever we will ever see this power in action if that is the case…
Maybe Blackbeard is there, as a certain somebody:ninja:
It is a wonder how it is stolen, but everything we've seen so far has been user is dead when the fruit is stolen (Whitebeard and when Smiley burst into gas, it came back). Only problem with Whitebeard is that he overpowered Black Beard easily. Burgess just might want to weaken Sabo and take the fruit. They might not want to attract the attention of the Revolutionary Army by killing Sabo. It's all conjecture though at this point, but in one of the other chapter threads I thought it would be a cool twist.
Shrugs I know, there is no way Oda is taking fruit away from his golden boy Sabo, whom I fully expect to casually stomp Burgess if they fight again.
All I'm saying is that it could be an interesting development. And Blackbeard pirates not sucking on panel, for a change.
Or did you refer to them not killing people to get fruits? Because that is so going to be the case; Oda killing characters? I'll sooner believe he was drunk and bashing heads of baby seals.
He can't kill him on this island because plot reasons… But he can always kidnap him (it obviously will never happen but i can dream).
I want Blackbeard Crew to do something impressive, and NOT off-screen dammit. Ever since Blackbeard beat Ace, they've been bloody pathethic every time they fight on screen. Casually getting stomped by Magellan, overwhelmed in seconds by Whitebeard, stopped by Sengoku, running away from Sakazuki, being outwitted by Sabo (I still believe that to be absolute bullshit, btw)… At this point in time, it's just sad.
