I am confused at what is confusing you
Ackermans/Asians were 2 different bloodlines
Both were/are immune to memory wiping via titan.
From what I understand the whole 'Ackerman strength' is more a warrior linage type thing.
I am confused at what is confusing you
Ackermans/Asians were 2 different bloodlines
Both were/are immune to memory wiping via titan.
From what I understand the whole 'Ackerman strength' is more a warrior linage type thing.
I am confused at what is confusing you
Ackermans/Asians were 2 different bloodlines
Both were/are immune to memory wiping via titan.From what I understand the whole 'Ackerman strength' is more a warrior linage type thing.
I think he just wants to know what's special to the Asian line? Like there must be something super special about it if they erased the line out of fear.
Maybe it's just the memory thing, maybe it's more.
Yea that's it, from what we've got until now the Asians can't have their memory wiped but the same thing can be said about the Ackermans so what is supposed to be a kinda big reveal (Mikasa from both bloodlines) just doesn't seem that important.
I mean it doesn't matter that she's half Asian since she's already an Ackerman.
I think it's probably that Mikasa has complete immunity because she's both Ackerman and Asian, Kenny probably also has complete immunity since he's a full Ackerman from what we know.
Levi would probably still be partially affected.
I really do appreciate the character development in this chapter. Historia finally made a decision, even if it's based on information Rod told her, she made a decision.
Eren also needed this. Once the bottom is hit, there is only going up again or completely falling. I kinda don't want Rod to be completely lying, it would undermine the development here.
Now the only characters who haven't really gotten much substantial development are Levi and Mikasa. Mikasa is especially bad because we only have her backstory chapter. You could assume something's going on since she hasn't been freaking out about Eren so much, but that's very little. I dont care how special she is by blood, I want her character to develop.
Everyone is thinking too hard about the asian thing.
It has always been a fanservice thing to have such a badass character being asian, since the manga is set in a somewhat european setting.
The big reveal is more about the Ackerman thing, since it explains why all these characters are so badass(even if I completely hate the predestined crap mangakas are so fond of)
Could someone remind me what's so special about Historia and why she has to become a titan to protect humanity?
Could someone remind me what's so special about Historia and why she has to become a titan to protect humanity?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but basically my understanding is that Historia is true royal blood in which Eren's coordinate ability has been passed down from generation to generation to manipulate the memories of humans, and so they just want her to restore everything back to the status quo with the original family. Whoever has that ability and uses it right (and I guess only the Reiss' can be trained to do it or something) basically has dominion over humanity because of their knowledge of everything.
So basically The Giver with cannibalism.
@Purple:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but basically my understanding is that Historia is true royal blood in which Eren's coordinate ability has been passed down from generation to generation to manipulate the memories of humans, and so they just want her to restore everything back to the status quo with the original family. Whoever has that ability and uses it right (and I guess only the Reiss' can be trained to do it or something) basically has dominion over humanity because of their knowledge of everything.
So basically The Giver with cannibalism.
Thanks, that sounds… reasonable.
I would have picked a member of the Ackermanian master race or an asian to create some sort of super terror titan, but I guess mindcontrol works as well.
The Ackermans and Asians were the only ones who rebelled against the royal family, as far as it's known they have nothing to do with the Titan ability and giving it to them would make it worse because only the Reiss can (apparently) contol the full power of the coordinate. The special thing about the Asians and Ackermans is that they can resist the memory wipe. The Ackermans also have the strength burst thing.
Attack on Titan 65: "The One Where Kenny is Suddenly the Only Rational Person in the Room"
So… interestingly enough, the Maplestory MMORPG has added Attack on Titan content in its newest update...
[http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-highlights/00IHc
](http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-highlights/00IHc)Chapter 66 spoilers.
! Historia didn't inject the serum
Confronts Rod about Frieda never using the coordinate
Injects Rod
Slaps Eren
Levi squad comes and save Historia and Eren from the colossal Rod
Eren decides to fight, drinks the strongest titan serum and shifts at the end of the chapter.You go, girl.
This is pretty awesome.
I know that there is already a Picture of the Chapter, but this sounds pretty much like a fake. Especially the last Sentence.
No, there's a bunch of them. It's all true.
!
This is awesome. Can't wait for the full chapter. Though I am curious how the end of the previous chapter will be explained.
Oh, ok, thank you. I saw just the one with Historia hitting Rod, before. But how could Eren know, that exactly this Serum, makes him OP? Did I miss something?
Shit just got real.
I am curious of the full picture of this whole thing.
! That panel of Historia decking Rod…. and I knew the "choose other Titans" comment will be important, but I did not expect this.
! Also, another picture I missed.
!
! Chapter 66 or Historia Fixes Everything.
Though I am curious how the end of the previous chapter will be explained.
! Last chapter we see Historia stick the syringe in and then the point of view changes to the Survey Corps. It's they who see the emerging titan. Both them and us readers immidiately conclude it to be Historia, but it is Rod instead.A simple switch.
! Last chapter we see Historia stick the syringe in and then the point of view changes to the Survey Corps. It's they who see the emerging titan. Both them and us readers immidiately conclude it to be Historia, but it is Rod instead.A simple switch.
oh RIGHT. I didn't think of that at all. I love Attack On Titan so much.
Chapter 66 spoilers.
! Historia didn't inject the serum
Confronts Rod about Frieda never using the coordinate
Injects Rod
Slaps Eren
Levi squad comes and save Historia and Eren from the colossal Rod
Eren decides to fight, drinks the strongest titan serum and shifts at the end of the chapter.You go, girl.
I'm still iffy on Historia.
She keeps switching sides.
! I think she's great because she finally made up her mind for real now, her constantly "switching sides" helps to make the point. Great character development. This will make for an interesting situation about her becoming queen.
longer spoiler translation at Mangahelpers.
Japanese RAW: http://www.mmangareader.me/attack-titan-66
Well fuck you and your cliffhangers Isayama.
Hey guys let's not forget about tagging spoiler discussion.
Scan is out: http://www.mangabird.com/attack-titan-66
That's the official translation. That was a great chapter. Great character development for Historia - it all became full circle because of Eren's words last chapter, her memories of Frieda and Ymir's words back in chapter 40/41.
For the plot stuff, it's interesting that the holders of the coordinate didn't talk. I doubt it's the simple greed thing at this point. Frieda's words about "being sinners", too. Also, apparently the bottle Eren bit had "armoured" along with "Braun" written on there.
I actually also really like Eren's suicidal thinking these past chapters. I felt it in a way made him a more complex character in a way - more exact it emphasized his humanity more. Like his speech when he carried the boulder or when he cried after returning from the FT expedition.
shiiiit, I want the next chapter!
And I also want to marry Levi.
I'll probably be the minority here but I really don't like these latest developments of secret cults and mystic mumbo jumbo. I think it's making what should be a more simple story about survival, weird and convoluted. Also Eren has to be one of the worst protagonists I've ever read. Being depressed and suicidal is one thing, but being whiny and crying to be eaten just rubs off as excessively melodramatic and silly. But again, I'm probably in the minority in this one. I liked Historia's character arc, about time she grew a pair.
My common sense gets in the way about Eren being "whiny" and I can't see it as an unreasonable or unnatural of a reaction, especially in these recent chapters. What do people expect him to do after learning his father and his entire existance might've basically doomed humanity?
I guess, how complicated the plot is.. don't get that either?
The three big things for this arc:
1. The Reiss royal family passed down the god Titan's memories and abilities, said Titan created the walls and erased humanity's memories.
2. Eren has that power now that he ate his father, who stole it, but because it's stolen from the owners it's not at it's full potential.
3. Minorities which were immune to that power were persecuted and killed.
The coup arc had the reveal that Titans could turn into shifters after eating a shifter. I can't think of anything else "complicated"?
It''s the way he was crying "Kill me, kill me, please!!! I'M A LOSER!!! I DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE, PLEASE!!!!" Jesus dude, grow a pair. Having a hero in an existential crisis is one thing but Eren was in flat out crybaby mode. It doesn't help that we never really explored his mental condition because we were focused on Historia. I can understand why he's acting like this but I can't relate to him. This is a problem I've had with the character from the start. He never really develops but has extreme melodramatic emotional reactions to everything. This chapter at least did have one piece of satisfying development with him going fuck it, I'm gonna do what I want. About time his character showed some agency.
To your other point, when you have to make a list to keep track of everything, you've got too much going on. With that said, what bugs me more really is less that there's a lot going on and more I'm just not a fan of this weird cult lineage reveal. It's just weird and was dumped on us in massive exposition without I feel any real foreshadowing. It just seems out of nowhere to me that the manga got mystical all of a sudden when it was always more realistic, giants aside. I feel this direction complicates things in a series that should be more visceral and grounded. Like this whole series is because of a super Titan? Who is he? Where did he come from? Why is the family passing down his memories and abilities? How did they discover him? Why this religious one is chosen every generation cult stuff? Why create the Titans? Why condemn humanity to living in the Wall? According to the chapter, the answer is hand wavey because God said so bullshit. Why did his father steal the magic formula? What is all this? Can we just get to killing all Titans, that plot was more interesting than all this coup/government/cultist/mystical mumbo jumbo. I feel this story has just gotten lost in the world building.
So does the canister at the end (Armor / Braun) confirm now that the Reiss family initiated the invasion by the Colossal and Armored Titan?
@TLC:
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That's the thing. We don't really know anything about the Titan? That's the point - finding out the complete picture. I feel it's been slowly detailed (that is first it's a small hint as far back as BR kidnapping Eren (why is he so special, why didn't they just kill him?), then there's Flashback to Frieda, then there's more details to the same flashback with her using her power, then the latest chapter, it's slowly eased to the reveal with foreshadowing. Everything "magic" comes back to Titans in this series. This is why I'm more iffy about the Ackerman stuff if anything, but I get the feeling that will come back to Titans, too. So that's why I'm okay with that.
I don't know, I'd actually be overly melodramatic if it didn't involve lots of death, the fate of humanity and Eren weren't an extremely emphatic 15-year-old (though, as we saw in the flashback, that empathy also has it's possible horrible downsides). It's just the thing of stakes here. How's being crushed by the guilt of 10s of deaths being a "crybaby"? Would it be just a friend being injured or maybe even just one death, sure, but Eren's got the fate of the world on his shoulders, along with many deaths to make up for here. It's all very irrational, but expecting rationality in that situation isn't exactly very reasonable? Would you consider Armin being out of it when he killed a person or Jean hesitating to kill a person melodramatic, too? I like that despite fairly minor deaths, death is a big deal in this series. These guys are child soldiers, too; Eren's even referred to as a rebellious teenager at some point. That's what the series is going for, I think so at least, it'll always be "grounded" in that sense.
Like Naruto chasing Sasuke was so bad because he had multiple times sworn revenge and said he'd destroy the village and Naruto goes ahead and hyperventilates, that's pretty disproprtionate and unnatural angst.
But I know you're not the only one who's not too thrilled about anything after the coup arc started.
Edit: ~~
[ /video]Just cuz I missed the epic song from this opening. The chord changes are so good..~~
This soundtrack (and what it represents, the frenetic pace/fighting spirit shown at SnK start) might be the reason this whole emo/mystic cults turn feels jarring for some people. With the way the plot went these however many chapters we're dealing with conspiracies, the song would feel out of place.
I enjoyed SnK a lot more at the start, when the various mysteries weren't the focus and the enemy was an outside threat. Ah well.
This soundtrack (and what it represents, the frenetic pace/fighting spirit shown at SnK start) might be the reason this whole emo/mystic cults turn feels jarring for some people. With the way the plot went these however many chapters we're dealing with conspiracies, the song would feel out of place.
I enjoyed SnK a lot more at the start, when the various mysteries weren't the focus and the enemy was an outside threat. Ah well.
Luckily it seems this arc will end soon or at least I hope so..
I love how that opening is a big fat lie, basically.
Eren's the determined shounen hero, but instead succumbs to guilt and the massive responsiblity of saving the world that's pushed on him by his father. Sure is a cool shounen asspull power-up, that Titan ability.
Mikasa's trauma and her dedication to Eren as a result of it might've lead to her death. So many series straight-up romantizise it, but it's a serious issue here. (Ugh, Hancock).
Armin gained his courage, but turns out that might not be a good thing because his strategies and his ideas involve questionable morality. (Pretty interesting spin on Usopp).
Levi is the usually emotionally stable and supportive mentor figure in other stories, but nope, he ain't giving you a clear moral direction, his advice is awkward and he's excessively violent. Turns out Jean is left to decide for himself. (Kakashi).
Sasha is the comic relief, but nope, she's actually very capable and her quirk is the result of living through a famine. (She's the most standard of the cast, but still has a pretty serious reason for her quirk, very much like a OP character in that sense).
Historia seems the typical nice girl at first, but no, that's the result of being treated like she wasn't even supposed to be born since a child and just an excuse to "die a hero". Eren's going through the same thing, just to be useful to humanity. (Shirahoshi)
Bertholdt is the supposed big bad, but nope, he's just a passive teenager with self-esteem issues. (total opposite of Aizen).
Reiner developed a split personality to cope with the guilt of killing so many people. (the big brother figure like Ace or Kamina).
Erwin's the wonderful and awesome leader, but his choice just replaced a set of monsters with another set monsters and he's been succuming to guilt of all the people he feels he sent to their deaths as it is.
Hey, triumphant war against the Titans - nope - deaths are pretty swift and just happen. (Pretty much any shounen, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, but especially Fairy Tail)
Sacrificing yourself for greater good - noble? - nope, just self-destructive and stupid because you're more useful when you're still alive. (Geez, Bellemere is a pretty terrible mother, she left her children alone in the world instead of saving them by running away with them).
"Emo" really needs to die really badly, I think. Using that for series that basically aim for a more "grounded" execution of something is especially puzzling to me.
In the end, Eren is still just a 15 year-old kid. With all this trauma, it's surprising he didn't succumb to "the emos" faster.
Reminds me of Evangelion, really.
(Also, Historia a best. Making her fling that guy was great, Isayama.)
In the end, Eren is still just a 15 year-old kid. With all this trauma, it's surprising he didn't succumb to "the emos" faster.
Reminds me of Evangelion, really.
(Also, Historia a best. Making her fling that guy was great, Isayama.)
The toss actually reminded me she was trained as much as the other kids. Before that I can't recall her doing anything physical. A bunch of doe eyed looks, but definitely not anything aggressive.
So I read it right Levi noted this new titan is even bigger than the Colossal Titan? If so, damn…
In the end, Eren is still just a 15 year-old kid. With all this trauma, it's surprising he didn't succumb to "the emos" faster.
Reminds me of Evangelion, really.
(Also, Historia a best. Making her fling that guy was great, Isayama.)
Gotta say. I've personally always been a fan of the Kaminas and Simons as opposed to the "Erins" and the "Shinjis"
Gotta say. I've personally always been a fan of the Kaminas and Simons as opposed to the "Erins" and the "Shinjis"
Most people are (myself included), but it makes sense that Shinji and Eren acted the way they did.
Gotta say. I've personally always been a fan of the Kaminas and Simons as opposed to the "Erins" and the "Shinjis"
TTGL spoilers, just in case:
! Yeah, but let's not forget that for like 4 or 5 episodes Simon was depressed and utterly useless after Kamina died. Eren's only gotten to this point after all the deaths he views himself responsible for, and after finding out that the coordinate, while useful, is essentially useless with him. He thinks he's completely doomed humanity by existing. The guy had every right to mope around for a few chapters in my opinion. (But it was really only for like 1 chapter as he already appears to be over it.)
Eren's teeth are hard as fuck if he can just bite through a glass bottle
I'm okay with any archtype as long as they make sense and are written fine. For example, I think Eren does, while Shinji ultimately doesn't, at least his development in the series. Eren's final decision this ch even is kind of a positive, even if desparate one. I think he'll grow after this, until then, I look forward to armoured Titan action next chapter.
This chapter was the end of volume 16. I remember the editor said 15 and 16 were most impactful. Don't agree with that, but it's certainly important in character development. I think it improved a lot with the ending of the coup. That had a lot of repetitive exposition, but every chapter since the reveal with Eren's father has offered some answers about the story and characters. It's been pretty good since that reveal.
Eren's teeth are hard as fuck if he can just bite through a glass bottle
You can easily bite through a glass bottle though.
Teeth are that hard.
Splinters in the gum? No prob if you're a shifter!
I wonder which order Kenny will give his squad now. Retreat? Attack Eren? Attack the new giant Titan? Levi and his squad?
A titan + support squad against a titan + support squad. Sounds eeeeeepic!
An Attack on Titan arcade game is being developed (by CapCANT).
http://gematsu.com/2015/02/capcom-announces-attack-titan-arcade-game
Chapter is out on Mangapanda.
I actually tried reading it.
It looks ugly and the translation is awful. There is a mass of watermarks on every page. It's the worst. Holy shit.
But this chapter had some great character development.