Bleach Discussion 0: Hello Darkness my old friend
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"Oh, its lethal for me to have the normal amount of blood now? Then I'll just INDUCE MASSIVE BLOODLOSS!"
"But then you'd die from having too little blood"
"You're right- thats why this Hot Spring REPLENISHES MY BLOOD TO NORMAL LEVELS!"
"But shouldn't that also kill-"
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@Daz:
"Oh, its lethal for me to have the normal amount of blood now? Then I'll just INDUCE MASSIVE BLOODLOSS!"
"But then you'd die from having too little blood"
"You're right- thats why this Hot Spring REPLENISHES MY BLOOD TO NORMAL LEVELS!"
"But shouldn't that also kill-"
"NOPE!"Kubo out of 10, truly the pinnacle of logic.
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! @Zar:
! > Chapter 601: Talking back and forth, ending with a "big reveal" of powers (Barely correct, but close enough. More action than you'd think. Yet, it still ended with a reveal of new powers)
Chapter 602: LOLOLOL we actually got you outpowered
Chapter 603: NAW we got an ace up our sleeve. Here's the explanation! (Didn't exactly get it, because surprise, Kubo actually managed to condense that into one chapter. Still, said chapter contains exactly all of this.
Changing the following chapter numbers to make up for the lost chapter and avoid confusion in the future.)
Chapter 603: We're so much wiser now! The soul society guards gets steamrolled
Chapter 604-610: Repeat process
Chapter 611: YAY now all soul reapers are dead/appear to be dead! Slowly walk towards the goal. Bach reveals ultimate secret weapon.
Chapter 612: OMG WHO IS THAT IT IS ICHIGO AND CO! Man we're so scared now!
Chapter 613-620: Drawnout fighting, with Orohime Fan-Service
Chapter 620: ISHIDA
Chapter 621: ICHIGO
Chapter 622: ISHIDA
Chapter 623: ICHIGO
Chapter 624 and onwards: Repeat Butterfly Aizen
Chapter XJHLS: THE ENDCalling it.
Updating thisAnyhow, what was the point of this chapter?
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@Zar:
Updating this
Anyhow, what was the point of this chapter?
Its beyond our limited minds to understand the genius point Kubo was making.
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Why the fuck did he explain how his power works to his enemy fucking kubo god fucking damn it why does this manga sell better in my country than one piece
EDIT: Wanted to write it all in Caps-lock and I'm angry I can't
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I really cracked up when the rap guy thanks the enemy for explaining his power to him, so that he can think the way to counter-attack.
It's funny because it's so stupid : P
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@Aru:
Why the fuck did he explain how his power works to his enemy fucking kubo god fucking damn it why does this manga sell better in my country than one piece
EDIT: Wanted to write it all in Caps-lock and I'm angry I can't
It´s just the Shinji effect. Don´t get so pissed off by it
@Daz:
"Oh, its lethal for me to have the normal amount of blood now? Then I'll just INDUCE MASSIVE BLOODLOSS!"
"But then you'd die from having too little blood"
"You're right- thats why this Hot Spring REPLENISHES MY BLOOD TO NORMAL LEVELS!"
"But shouldn't that also kill-"
"NOPE!"I actually enjoyed the explanation: It´s new blood.
And then this sentence: "Now that I´m reborn".So yeah… if you take a blood transfusion, you are now reborn and all your problems are gone.
The fucking ability works in the body, not in the blood. The guys should be dead.
Askin: I have used my ability. Now if you breath air, you die because only a small dose of air in your lungs can kill you. If you don´t breath, then you die by lack of oxygen.
Guy: Well, then it´s easy, I JUST NEED TO BREATH NEW AIR!It´s as stupid as it sounds.
Kubo ! !
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It's an accepted fact on this forum that Bleach is a really shitty series, whose entertainment/quality value peaks at lolaizensamakeikakudori, that said even compared to the rest of the series this chapter was really stupid, and that's depressing for a bunch of reasons, someone other than Kubo read this and dediced that this was a good product that people would want to buy. We've discussed in the HxH thread multiple times how Togashi's work ethic is an insult to everyone in the manga industry including the reader, with Bleach it's the almost opposite case wherein the editorial at Shonen Jump and the readers have shown no interest in ending this awful excuse for a manga series.
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I love how even the characters are like:
"How that power works again?"
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This week in bleach: let's learn about math- and about how useless it apparently is in the end.
Que the end of bohemian Rhapsody "nothing really matters, any one can see, nothing really matters, nothing really matters, to meeeeeeeeeee, any way the wind, blowwwwws."
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Thats a really creative yet retarded power.I have no words for it.
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how exactly do you half the lethality of a sword attack that visibly produced a deep wound? I mean poison, ok, air and blood, whatever, but actual injuries
If a guy slashes your throat, that's it, there is no "having your neck half-cut" when blood is gushing out of your veins. If someone cut Askin in half, what would happen?
If he can survive bleeding out from this, isn't his ability just regeneration or some weird application of reality bending like gremmy did
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The fucking ability works in the body, not in the blood. The guys should be dead.
Askin: I have used my ability. Now if you breath air, you die because only a small dose of air in your lungs can kill you. If you don´t breath, then you die by lack of oxygen.
Guy: Well, then it´s easy, I JUST NEED TO BREATH NEW AIR!It´s as stupid as it sounds.
Not wanting to sound like I'm defending this miserable pile of shit chapter, but wasn't the "lethal substance" which dose got altered actually the blood itself? If so, replacing the haxxed blood with fresh one should do the trick alright.
Though, what kind of disease Askin actually inflicted to the Blabbermouth dude by doing what he did? Hypertension? Leukemia? Polycythemia Vera?
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What kind of ass pull technique is replacing your blood with new blood?
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dafuq i just read
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The part I don't understand is why and how does he manipulate letal dose of blood instead of manipulating quantity of blood. Makes no sense to me. Did he make his blood vessels to shrink?
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I mighty be wrong, but Half Lethal Dose is actually the quantity to kill half of a certain population of species.
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Not wanting to sound like I'm defending this miserable pile of shit chapter, but wasn't the "lethal substance" which dose got altered actually the blood itself? If so, replacing the haxxed blood with fresh one should do the trick alright.
Though, what kind of disease Askin actually inflicted to the Blabbermouth dude by doing what he did? Hypertension? Leukemia? Polycythemia Vera?
If there's a form of Leukemia that affects red blood cells, that would explain it. Cancerous blood cells wouldn't be good for you, although for completely different reasons than LD-50. But of course that'd be impossible, because red blood cells are already kind of dead (They don't have a nucleus or organelles.)
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I mighty be wrong, but Half Lethal Dose is actually the quantity to kill half of a certain population of species.
Correct me someone, I mighty be mixing things.Yes, that's absolutely right. The 50 in LD-50 comes from the death of 50% of the population. Half the dose of a lethal dose doesn't do shit other than make you sick.
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I made it to the second page before I stopped reading. Maybe I'm wrong, but I predict all I missed was the one dude pulling off some ridiculous attack that severely wounds/kills his opponent, who in turn, will be killed next chapter due to some ridiculous attack.
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This was the Bleachiest Bleach chapter ever since the Gremmy nonsense.
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I don't get why Kishi can't comprehend that if he wants a particular character to actually look like they are a capable fighter don't have the enemy explain in detail why and how their powers work. Let them figure it out. And to flip it. If you wanna win don't tell people how your mysterious and hard to fight ability functions.
At least in Hunter x Hunter and Jojo the characters could explain abilities in an internal monolog. Or the person fighting them started to figure it out because they actually used tactics.
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It's funny how he starts chapter with Askin introspecting about his ability. For a moment there, I thought Nimaiya could actually be in trouble. Haha, no. He blurts it out to Nimaiya anyway, as if it's some kind of universal imperative in the world of Bleach. But then if he didn't do it, Kubo would need to actually get creative in making Nimaiya figure out the ability and survive it.
Still, despite blabbering out like a dumbass, Askin would have won. If it weren't for the sad fact that Nimaiya's ally actually helped him out. Which is a lot more than I can say for Askin's "allies", who are just standing there, thinking god knows what, letting their comrades die one by one. What's going through Bach's mind? Hasch's? Ishida's? What?
Bleach could really use some Togashi, when it comes to fights and how people go around using their abilities. But he can't be bothered to think of anything more complicated than simple attacks, ability explanations andtransparent cliffhangers.
Fucking Hitsugaya and Soifon's battles got more attention than Nimaiya and Elite Four. The fight was a total cop-out. It's been a while since I've seen something so bland and lackluster in a manga.
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I'm still waiting for the inevitable "turns out everybody survived" Miracle.
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I'm actually hoping Bach revives them. Or the Miracle Thor. While being an asspull, that turn of events would still be better writing than what happened in last 2 chapters.
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I'm still waiting for the inevitable "turns out everybody survived" Miracle.
What do you mean, Kubo is on "introducing and killing new characters fast" mode. At least some props to 0 division this way.
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Even people of Akame Ga Kill explain their abilities without looking like idiots.
Its fake Karakura all over again.
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I made it to the second page before I stopped reading. Maybe I'm wrong, but I predict all I missed was the one dude pulling off some ridiculous attack that severely wounds/kills his opponent, who in turn, will be killed next chapter due to some ridiculous attack.
Why post here if you're not going to bother reading the chapter?
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And here I thought nothing could be more Kubo-like than Ch. 600. Congrats, Kubo. You outdid yourself.
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I don't get why Kishi can't comprehend that if he wants a particular character to actually look like they are a capable fighter don't have the enemy explain in detail why and how their powers work. Let them figure it out. And to flip it. If you wanna win don't tell people how your mysterious and hard to fight ability functions.
At least in Hunter x Hunter and Jojo the characters could explain abilities in an internal monolog. Or the person fighting them started to figure it out because they actually used tactics.
Kishimoto's pulling double duty on Naruto and Bleach?
Guess it would be for the best considering he's finishing up Naruto whereas Kubo is like a man lost on a road trip with his wife.
The logic breaking is an added bonus.
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I made it to the second page before I stopped reading. Maybe I'm wrong, but I predict all I missed was the one dude pulling off some ridiculous attack that severely wounds/kills his opponent, who in turn, will be killed next chapter due to some ridiculous attack.
You're wrong, he was killed due to a ridiculous attack this chapter.
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Well, I mean it was ridiculous…
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Explaining abilities usually won't harm the outcome of the fights when done properly. But the way Kubo uses it is so that the one hearing the explanations could flip the table instantly, speeding the story up cuz there's simply not enough panels for battle of wits.
Askin's ability is unfair. There's nothing sort of requirements, limitations not even working process of said ability. All he needed to do was "Lick shit and there be lethal dose of shit". There was no other way to make the fight winnable besides making Askin spell his own doom and trigger enemy's cheat move.
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some of these fights are trying too hard to be like hunter x hunter imo
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Explaining abilities usually won't harm the outcome of the fights when done properly. But the way Kubo uses it is so that the one hearing the explanations could flip the table instantly, speeding the story up cuz there's simply not enough panels for battle of wits.
The big problem is when you explain the entirety of the ability, even its weakness, before the opponent is even kaput. Just saying "Oh I do this" then well, that's just trying to build up swagger, but that's about it.
Askin's ability is unfair. There's nothing sort of requirements, limitations not even working process of said ability. All he needed to do was "Lick shit and there be lethal dose of shit". There was no other way to make the fight winnable besides making Askin spell his own doom and trigger enemy's cheat move.
"I read up this neat idea on wikipedia! Better throw it in my manga somewhere"
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Not wanting to sound like I'm defending this miserable pile of shit chapter, but wasn't the "lethal substance" which dose got altered actually the blood itself? If so, replacing the haxxed blood with fresh one should do the trick alright.
Though, what kind of disease Askin actually inflicted to the Blabbermouth dude by doing what he did? Hypertension? Leukemia? Polycythemia Vera?
I think it was not the substance, but the body´s tolerance to a certain substance.
Not sure though, and I refuse to read this shit again.
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Explaining abilities usually won't harm the outcome of the fights when done properly. But the way Kubo uses it is so that the one hearing the explanations could flip the table instantly, speeding the story up cuz there's simply not enough panels for battle of wits.
Askin's ability is unfair. There's nothing sort of requirements, limitations not even working process of said ability. All he needed to do was "Lick shit and there be lethal dose of shit". There was no other way to make the fight winnable besides making Askin spell his own doom and trigger enemy's cheat move.
Oh, the licking was part of the ability? I had no idea…
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Holy craaaaaaap I'm sick of new abilities on new characters I don't care abouttttt why am I even keeping up with blech whyyyyyyy
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@Purple:
The big problem is when you explain the entirety of the ability, even its weakness, before the opponent is even kaput.
Again, not to sound like I'm defending the shit, but Askin probably thought that the only way for his enemy to counter it was to bleed out, which should have killed him anyway. He just didn't know that instant reishi blood transfusion existed.
Oh, the licking was part of the ability? I had no idea…
He did lick blood before activating his stuff, hence the chapter title. I dunno whose, maybe his own because licking the enemy's blood to inflict curse is copyrighted by Hidan.
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Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.
It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.
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Again, not to sound like I'm defending the shit, but Askin probably thought that the only way for his enemy to counter it was to bleed out, which should have killed him anyway. He just didn't know that instant reishi blood transfusion existed.
He did lick blood before activating his stuff, hence the chapter title. I dunno whose, maybe his own because licking the enemy's blood to inflict curse is copyrighted by Hidan.
Even still. They knew where they were going. Why underestimate your opponent that much? Any named solider being the Soul King's guard you'd think should be extremely powerful. The cockiness of Kubo's characters is completely stupid and it happens every time. And the 0 squad didn't exactly leave the area. If Captain Hiphop failed there was still others standing around.
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Again, not to sound like I'm defending the shit, but Askin probably thought that the only way for his enemy to counter it was to bleed out, which should have killed him anyway. He just didn't know that instant reishi blood transfusion existed.
He did lick blood before activating his stuff, hence the chapter title. I dunno whose, maybe his own because licking the enemy's blood to inflict curse is copyrighted by Hidan.
But didn't the swordguy Point out that he should have Known because he was watching from ywach's shadow all the Time?
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Came to the bleach thread expecting blank pages with no black.
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Big problem with Kubo is he's making such vague abilities that a number of them would be impossible for characters to deduce by themselves, without explanation for the most part. That, and Kubo seems to lack imagination. Askin would've been a perfect matchup with Mayuri. Mayuri uses the arrancar to attack him. From analyzing what happens, he deduces the ability of Askin. From there it becomes a battle of who can give a lethal dose to each other first. Mayuri gets close to dying, but with a special mixture of his own poison that Askin can't analyze, he barely scrapes through. See Kubo, even though that scenario isn't great, it's still tons better than what you gave us.
Everyone seems to have a secondary D ability, or Askins actual primary ability, diarrhea of the mouth. Let me talk about every single aspect of my ability, and if there is still time, blab about my backstory to give the enemy time to figure out a counter attack. Let me also warn him about not being to go lucky with the countermeasure, because that would kill him to.
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Even still. They knew where they were going. Why underestimate your opponent that much? Any named solider being the Soul King's guard you'd think should be extremely powerful.
True enough. It seemed to me that Askin was just delaying his death with his haxxed power to at least try taking Blabbermouth down along with him. I don't want to re-read just to confirm that, though.
But didn't the swordguy Point out that he should have Known because he was watching from ywach's shadow all the Time?
I think Kirinji only used his hot piss water that drains out blood against Yhwach copy-paste army, not the one with healing property (replaces blood and shit).
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Two Reasons:
1. "Bleach" as in, Ichigo is cleansing and purifying the souls of Hollows
2. It's Kubo's favorite Nirvana album3. Kubo's method to draw backgrounds (and write plot)
4. I think Ichigo's hair was once described as "bleached"( Not sure how accurate)
5. It's poetic6.Kubo has been drinking Bleach which is why the storyline and backgrounds kept getting worse after the soul society arc.
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Holy craaaaaaap I'm sick of new abilities on new characters I don't care abouttttt why am I even keeping up with blech whyyyyyyy
Because it's always fun watching a train wreck happen in slow motion.
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Came to the bleach thread expecting blank pages with no black.
This is the new boss in Bleach lol!
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After imagination powers, I don't feel Askin's power is that bad, just that Zero Squad gangsta's counter made no sense.
Also, why couldn't Kubo name his power The Dose instead of The Death Dealing?
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Was Juha's mustache always that big?