After seeing all these doctors, I really would like Kureha/Hiruluk or Hogback showing up next chapter.
Also, crazy that Oda already drew Rosinante on that Color Spread!
Chapter 764: "White Monster"
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not much of a report if he doesn't know where he is..also we don't really know what ronci orders are..sangoku seems strangely ok with him leaving dofla's side for "personal reasons"..adding the fact that he says that he is not a marine (even though we see the dossier with "commander" written on it),it probbaly means that he is just collaborating with the marines but it's not part of it anymore,and that the surveillance on the fmily is not the strict..in fact in the chapter sengoku says that they are becoming famous,so they were not an important threat yet
You would expect him at least to say "Hey, there is one guy that is not listed as part of the crew, but he used to be one of the top commanders, his name is Vergo".
When he found out the most trusted and (one of the) strongest men of Doflamingo is gone on a top secret mission, warning his superior about this guy's existance seems like the obvious way to go.
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After seeing all these doctors, I really would like Kureha/Hiruluk or Hogback showing up next chapter.
Also, crazy that Oda already drew Rosinante on that Color Spread!
They aren't in the grand line though, so the first two, (and maybe even Hogback) aren't possible
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It's sad that Vergo had no Afro. Instead he seems to wear a "prologue-Helmeppo-helmet".
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Rocinante probably joined after Vergo, the 1st Corazon, left, allowing a vacant seat. This would've been the perfect opportunity for Roci to infiltrate.
So I don't believe they have ever met, but Roci probably studied enough about the crew to know Vergo existed.
Yup but that should make DoFla even more suspicious about Rocicante suddenly appearing there? And as I said… Why he never told the real names to Sengoku?
And what was Vergo doing undercover before becoming a marine
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@.access:
The first thing that annoyed me about him was how he was talking about Doflamingo and the others.
I am aware I am biased because I ended up liking Doflamingo (and the family) so fucking much, but seeing someone from a group that see each member as a family "badmouthing" the others and trying to backstab them was not a good thing (it would be if Rosinante was portrayed as a bad guy, but that's not the case).
It also goes against him the fact that he should be the person to understand Doflamingo best. Even if he disagrees with Doffy and takes upon himself the responsibility of stopping him, calling him a monster, not human, saying that he can't understand how someone like that could come from his kind parents, etc etc, all while trying to use Doflamingo's confidence to betray him… fuck you, man.
Obviously, if Oda shows their past with Rosinante trying to stop Doflamingo is less shady ways and showing Doflamingo as someone really deserving to be hated by his brother up to that point, this can change, but as far as it is, Rosinante doesn't come out looking good in my book.He isn't really a member of their crew though.
If the general consensus of Roccy being away from Doffy for a good while and then coming back at the behest of the marines is correct, then he genuinely has no connection to them. He pretends to be mute and foolish (which at least 2 members of the family have disparagingly pointed out), so it's not like he's even really befriending them or whatever.
We already know that Doffy killed their father at 10, and presented his severed head to the same people who left him to die, and that's probably just the tip of the iceberg here when it comes to Doffy being a "monster". We don't know anything about the kind of atrocities he committed in front of the executives for them to be the only ones to know his true nature.
Even at that he does seem to care for Doffy anyway, stating it's his job to stop Doffy from being a monster. If he wanted to he could have sound proof barriered up and sliced Doffy's throat in his sleep if considered him such a monster and had no conflicting feelings whatsoever.
@.access:
But what really made me want to puch this guy in the face is what he did to Law.
FFS, I understand him doing it wrong in the first hospital, since he wasn't expecting such a negative response, but keep repeating it over and over again? Every time forcing Law to see others treating him like a monster, forcing this kid to go through this?? He couldn't simply leave Law outside and go there by himself, tell the doctors he had someone with the amber lead disease and only if they were willing to treat the said person, bring Law inside?
There are many times in OP we see characters acting in stupid ways but we ignore it because what matters is the message that Oda is trying to convey (like Bellemére's decision), but this time it was a bit too much to me.Yeah, I get where you're coming from with the hospitals thing, but Roccy really does seem to care for law, and while he was a bit tactless, his heart was certainly in the right place.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Doesn't "th" have multiple ways to pronounce?
don't know,i'm italian and my teachers always taught it to me as the "tongue between your teeth" sound..that is also how the "c" is pronounced if followed by "i" and "e"..if i remember correctly..for both sounds the phonetic symbol is this "θ"
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Yup but that should make DoFla even more suspicious about Rocicante suddenly appearing there? And as I said… Why he never told the real names to Sengoku?
And what was Vergo doing undercover before becoming a marine
Well, he is his brother. Why would he be suspicious?
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Well but I'm more interested of the past of them… Why did they leave each other behind? And why after all those years DoFla hasn't been suspicious that Rocicante came back to him?
And if he was, that maybe is the reason for sending Vergo there
Doffy killing their father at 10 may have had something to do with it, or maybe they simply had to separate at some point while being hunted by the victims of the Celestial Dragons.
Either way, Roccy comes back and says I've been looking for you for years but I only managed to find you again because of your infamous new reputation as a pirate, boom.
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Cuz he left him before for whatever reasons. Never asked what he has done?
Well, he is mute…
We also don't know the circumstances of the separation.
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Another great chapter. This backstory doesn't fail to keep things interesting.
Did Oda change his mind about the spelling of their last name? Was the first one a mistake? It's been shown as Donquixote before.
It's likely an error. Oda makes them all the time when he writes names in English.
Definitely an excellent chapter by the way.
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I can't be the only one feeling this whole flashback chapters have been absolutely the best chapters in this entire arc.
You really aren't, blue one.
Even just for it being the first time we've really seen an extended history of another pirate crew, and one with as many cool members and intriguing nuances as The Donquixote pirates….outstanding.
That's not to mention the major revelations that just keep on coming.
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Epic remake, it was a crazy chapter. Just put a Sengoku in it and it's gold.
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I'm OK with building the relationship between Law and Rocinante, and learning that Roci is a marine does give flavour to the story (and credit to the marines, for once they seem to try and take their job seriously). That much was needed and enjoyable. The rest,
1. Like I said, we've never heard it before, therefore it's new information.
4. Its placement is irrelevant.
5. Personal surprise is irrelevant. It's new and important information.
6. Again, it's new and important information. It's not Oda's fault you spend your time on here theorizing about One Piece's secrets.You can feel how you want about the chapter, but to claim that barely anything happened and the pages were wasted, disregarding the fact that it had several revelations and important exposition, is flat out wrong.
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We already know that Doffy killed their father at 10
Wait, I forgot about that.
I guess this is more than enough reason for Rosinante to hate his brother and want him taken down, so I am scratching the first point out of my list of reasons to dislike Rosinante.
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Rereading the chapter, and the way Cora-san drags Law to all these hospitals, and him being so optimistic like they're gonna find a cure at any moment…..... I'm just gonna sit here here sobbing internally:sad:
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I can't be the only one feeling this whole flashback chapters have been absolutely the best chapters in this entire arc.
I agree. By the way, could you answer me this, please?:
@Devil:
What's written on Sengoku's wall? Some kind of justice?
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also..i wouldn't say doflamingo is "born evil":blink:,it's a strange thing to say,especially when talking about your own brother
Yeah this felt kind of awkward for me too. Doffy is a rotten bastard, but he had hellova srewed-up life to blame for it. Am I really supposed to think the kid is evil because he wants to kill the people who are torturing him for something other World Nobles did? And he still cares of his crew and late mother for what it's worth.
Corazon really dropped some respect tough. It probably would've been better if he had gone to hospital himself than brought Law there and beating doctors and burning hospitals doesn't really help either. It's hilarious that he was actually clumsy tough!
But how did the Marines not know that Vergo is a mole if they had Corazon spying on them?
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@.access:
Wait, I forgot about that.
I guess this is more than enough reason for Rosinante to hate his brother and want him taken down, so I am scratching the first point out of my list of reasons to dislike Rosinante.
Hahahaha, yeah it's somewhat of a dealbreaker.
Also, like I mentioned, that's not even taking into account whatever he's done in front of the other executives.
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Yeah, I get where you're coming from with the hospitals thing, but Roccy really does seem to care for law, and while he was a bit tactless, his heart was certainly in the right place.
Seriously, it's like complaining about the way Garp raised Luffy.
I mean, you can complain about it, but does it matter?
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Whatever happened to PowerManga?
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@Light:
But how did the Marines not know that Vergo is a mole if they had Corazon spying on them?
It looks like they never met, also Vergo going to the marines is a super secret mission that Roccy has no idea about.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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@400MillionBelis:
Whatever happened to PowerManga?
Slowly, but surely, we're releasing the backlog of chapters. Up to 754 has been released so far.
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Rocinante is such a cold-blooded bastard! Lying to everyone around him, including his own brother, you gotta love it! As well as his antics, saying "It (his clumsiness) was all an act." while once again burning his shoulder^^ And Vergo probably found out about Rocinante somehow and snitched him out, leading Dofla to set up a trap for him because he knows he wants to heal Law, which should be very possible with the Ope-Ope No Mi. Man, this is gonna be tragic…
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Once again about Rocicante. I would actually love to see when he actually joined the marines without DoFla kowing it or did DoFla and him have been seperated for some reasons in the past?
If yes why hasn't DoFla being fishy about the fact that Rocicante suddenly came back to him?
And will Vergo play a role in it. Maybe DoFla sent him out to the marines as well because he hasn't trusted Rocicante…
I'm thinking he was initially Doflamingo's spy in the Marines and Sengoku turned him. Then Doflamingo figured he'd prefer his brother near him for whatever reason and replaced him with Vergo.
Hatori Icons (credits and thanks to Nia and Nhp <3)
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Seriously, it's like complaining about the way Garp raised Luffy.
I mean, you can complain about it, but does it matter?
Not really.
Over the top physical "training" is pretty different to being made to relive the worst events of your life, being reminded constantly of the disease that's slowly killing you and being shunned by everyone and anyone as a monster…over and over again against your will.
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Again, you can't just show an attempt and then skip all the others, or else it makes the relationship feel lackluster.
Basically, there's storytelling value in repetition too. In this context, which is about the hope, hardships and rejections Corazon and Law faced along the way, the omission would cause loss of value.
There's truth in that, yes. However, I can't help but feel that said hardships and rejections could have been staged in a less forced manner. On a second reading, what really bothers me is how all those doctors and nurses immediately reject Law. I wouldn't mind it coming from superstitious and/or uninformed people who cannot know better, or those who directly suffered in the Frevance war. But doctors? Come on! When even some of 'mingo's goons know that the disease isn't contagious, wouldn't some doctors be informed too? Wouldn't they at least try to heal the kid? They can fail and it would still feel as dramatic. In the end, te way Oda shows it feels just as forced a trait as the "all CDs are pompous a**holes" trope (well, almost all of them now that we know 'mingo's parents)
If this were a contrast to prepare the introduction of some open-minded doctor like Kureha or Hirurk, hell, why not. But in all likeliness we're in for "OP haxx DF saves the day"…This is why I prefer by far chapters like the previous two, in which there are nuances of grey that make the story a lot more believable.
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Maybe the ope ope no mi was meant for Vergo?
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It looks like they never met, also Vergo going to the marines is a super secret mission that Roccy has no idea about.
Yeah, but one would think that he gave them info of all the crewmembers he knew and they'd realize that one of the names matches Vergo's. There should be at least an investigation or something.
Then again, this is the same world where a princess can become an undercover high-ranking officer of the very organization that is trying to overthrow her country…
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Rocci being optimistic and dragging a young boy into unknown territory (and it not paying off at all) kinda reminds me of his father. I feel they should have shown a different kind of scene when Rocci said Dofla was evil. Showing post torture Dofla kinda feels like his evilness was a result of torture. I know he was an asshole before but not enough for me to feel like he was not human.
Fans make the fandom. What is your fandom made of?
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@Light:
Yeah, but one would think that he gave them info of all the crewmembers he knew and they'd realize that one of the names matches Vergo's. There should be at least an investigation or something.
Then again, this is the same world where a princess can become an undercover high-ranking officer of the very organization that is trying to overthrow her country…
Maybe he gave them initial info about crew members before he found out Vergo's name?
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Maybe the ope ope no mi was meant for Vergo?
It's possible. But still, if he was Dofla's oldest friend, why sacrifice him for immortality? Sure, maybe he couldn't trust anyone else, but there was bound to be a better or a less valuable candidate. For starters, we don't know how long Vergo was supposed to be in the marines.
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Epic remake, it was a crazy chapter. Just put a Sengoku in it and it's gold.
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/641067thedeparted.pngCostello (Jack Nicholson) would be Doflamingo, Doflamingo goes by "Joker", Jack Nicholson played the Joker = Illuminati
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Maybe the ope ope no mi was meant for Vergo?
It'd certainly give him a reason to want to beat the crap out of Law… also, it'd make that battle on Punk Hazard much more interesting. XD
Hatori Icons (credits and thanks to Nia and Nhp <3)
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@Miss:
Rocci being optimistic and dragging a young boy into unknown territory (and it not paying off at all) kinda reminds me of his father. I feel they should have shown a different kind of scene when Rocci said Dofla was evil. Showing post torture Dofla kinda feels like his evilness was a result of torture. I know he was an asshole before but not enough for me to feel like he was not human.
I think this is meant to be the symbolic birth of Doffy's hate against the world, and as such his evil.
Rather than an actual example of him being evil.
Just stand by for Homing's severed head.
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@Miss:
Rocci being optimistic and dragging a young boy into unknown territory (and it not paying off at all) kinda reminds me of his father. I feel they should have shown a different kind of scene when Rocci said Dofla was evil. Showing post torture Dofla kinda feels like his evilness was a result of torture. I know he was an asshole before but not enough for me to feel like he was not human.
It's actually in interesting contrast where Law considers himself a monster and Roci mentioning his brother is a monster. He almost seems to have realised something when Law says that line about him not being human.
I may just want a brotherly tragedy, though. >:D
Hatori Icons (credits and thanks to Nia and Nhp <3)
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It's sad that Vergo had no Afro. Instead he seems to wear a "prologue-Helmeppo-helmet".
It would be funny for me is his hairstyle is "M" shaped… From his Devil Fruit of course :ninja:
Some people here would be really butthurt though and one guy would be even banned if I am not mistaken.
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@Devil:
I agree. By the way, could you answer me this, please?:
It says 君臨する正義 "kunrin suru seigi." I'd say "Supreme Justice" or "Reigning Justice." Kunrin means to reign, excercise authority,hold sway over and such.
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Kid Law and Baby5 are adorable, lol
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1. Like I said, we've never heard it before, therefore it's new information.
4. Its placement is irrelevant.
5. Personal surprise is irrelevant. It's new and important information.
6. Again, it's new and important information. It's not Oda's fault you spend your time on here theorizing about One Piece's secrets.You can feel how you want about the chapter, but to claim that barely anything happened and the pages were wasted, disregarding the fact that it had several revelations and important exposition, is flat out wrong.
Aww, come on. Chapter says the ' D' name is secretely inherited throughout the world, its bearers are the Bogeymen of CD children and their "natural enemies"… How is that any news when the WG hunts down anyone and everyone who knows anything on the subject? We're being fed the same crumbs over and over again regarding the D backstory, it's about bloody time we heard something that's actually informative on the subject. Ohara was a great introduction to the D, but this is just rehash. If anything it confirms that the story of the 'D' is a half-forgotten myth to many people including the CDs, which would be to expect with the Void Century and whatnot. It was a nice touch to see where the "D will cause another storm" replica came from, though.
As for personal surprise, I'd call it anything but irrelevant : learning new stuff makes chapters great when it's actual news. That Vergo was the first Corazon is neither new nor very important to the story. It's black-on-white confirmation of highly probable elements that had been previous hinted. So, not very interesting, to me at least.
But if it can make this feel better, "I feel barely anything happened and the pages were wasted". There.
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What does Arare mean? Is that Sengoku's code name?? or his first name?
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My Prediction:
The Ope Ope was meant for Rocinante, as DD didn't know that he had already eaten a Devil Fruit. When he gives it to Rocinante and tells him to eat it, he finds out that he has been betrayed, and kills him, just after Rocinante gets the fruit to Law, who eats it and gets away at the last request of Rocinante, and says to himself that he will stop DD if it's the last thing he does, taking on Rociante's will.
DD didn't want to eat the fruit himself, he has already said that the fruit has an ultimate power of granting agelessness. He wouldn't want that power if he were going to die while using it, he wanted a patsy to sacrifice for his goals.
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Anyway, I'm assuming that Doffy's calling Cora because Vergo snitched on him for working with Sengoku.
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I guess this chapter explained why Law wasn't too pleased about what Ceasar was doing to the the kids back in Punk Hazard back in Chapter 666.
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Brorazon, u da real MVP
