Having a metal DF and not using it, #JustVergoThings
Chapter 759: Secret Plan
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Wether or not Vergo has a metal devil fruit. If he doesn't, vagabond will delete his account or something like that.
And if he has, Shadowgreed will… something. Delete as well?
Details are foggy to me.
But metal DF for the win!
That's what he bet about? Man Vaggy is really convinced about his theory isn't he? :wassat:
And how are they gonna decide the winner anyway? Unless Vergo either uses another DF (which is not gonna happen) or states that he doesn't have one then what is gonna convince him?
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Just to clarify, Shadow believes that the the citizens of Dressrosa will have no major part in the remaining events of the arc, Luffy will beat Doflamingo and Sabo will stall Fuji for the rest of the arc?
Does Darth just believe the exact opposite (I'm sceptical toward anyone who can't Luffy beating Doffy 1 on 1)?
Darth: Fuji will move on by either defeating Sabo or other means then he'll encounter Dofla before Luffy defeats him and the Citizens will go ham on DD/WG thus causing the start of a major outbrake .
ME: Sabo will stall Fuji till the fight is over, Luffy wil defeat Dofla without any interruption of Fuji or citizens.
This things goes way deeper but for some reason we just stayed in Dressrosa
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Am I the only one who doesn't give a damn about it?
@NER:
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Ummm for some reason I didn't see Darth's post where it says "Hey you two can you give a damn about this bet", that's weird isn't it
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@Light:
That's what he bet about? Man Vaggy is really convinced about his theory isn't he? :wassat:
And how are they gonna decide the winner anyway? Unless Vergo either uses another DF (which is not gonna happen) or states that he doesn't have one then what is gonna convince him?
Oda has too reveal on the Flashback that Vergo posses a METAL Devil Fruit, that's all there's to it
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This thread could use some change of topic.
Can you prove he didn't use it?
I expect a Metal DF user to look like Colossus from the x-men when turns on powers, or like Daz, he wasn't only a sharp-sharp man, I mean he turned out his body into knifes, drills and metallic stuff, why does a sharp man has to look like metal anyways?, I got cut with paper a few times. Paper sheets are really sharp.
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Vergo gonna be rollin' in da points.
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Ruroni Kenshin.
Throughout the entire manga, the top tiers were pretty close to each other.
Only reason for Kenshin's struggle being him gimping himself on purpose. :ninja:Quoting one of the 10 manga master pieces, so unfair
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Having fill body CoA and a metal df would make Vergo a massive threat. Kind of disappointed if he doesn't come back.
It'd be a huge waste.
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I expect a Metal DF user to look like Colossus from the x-men when turns on powers, or like Daz, he wasn't only a sharp-sharp man, I mean he turned out his body into knifes, drills and metallic stuff, why does a sharp man has to look like metal anyways?, I got cut with paper a few times. Paper sheets are really sharp.
Who knows. Maybe he'd be made of metal all the time, the same way Luffy is made out of rubber. If rubber can be skin colored, why couldn't metal as well? Plus, we've seen Daz, he was deflecting attacks with ot without the blades.
As the story progresses, we're bound to see similar or fruits with similar effect, as we've already seen with ice/snow, kilo/ton or dark/gravity.
The possibility can't be excluded as something silly. I've seen crazier theories.
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@Light:
That's what he bet about? Man Vaggy is really convinced about his theory isn't he? :wassat:
And how are they gonna decide the winner anyway? Unless Vergo either uses another DF (which is not gonna happen) or states that he doesn't have one then what is gonna convince him?
Not sure. Maybe confirmation of death seals the deal.
Either that, or Vergo returns to help Dofla, metalling the shit out of everything. Followed by Monet with her heart patched up by snow.
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How to you guys pronounce "Kyros"?
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Being away from APF on this week dont know if someone said it already but
From Rio Poneglyph
Just so you know, next issue #42 will be out officially on Saturday 13th in Japan. Because Monday 15th is a public holiday. So we will have the chapter 760 on Wednesday 10th. That said, dont be surprised next week and in two weeks' time, we'll be back again to Thursday.
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16 chars of that's cool.
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From what I can see this arc and what many would agree, it has been pretty much an advanced version of Alabasta. If we go ahead and compare via the same lines, the entire Alabasta incident being covered and the Dressrosa incident possibly getting covered seems to be perhaps easy enough although in the latter case, the incident might obviously leak out big time due to the wide extent of Joker's influence. Nevertheless, not many people actually know who is fighting Doflamingo now so even if he is defeated and Dressrosa is saved, the WG can conveniently mention Isshou as the one who defeated him due to him being the Joker = Smoker's forces defeating Crocodile due to him having an underground organization. It has been proven time and again that the media is being controlled by the WG so it's not very hard for them to cover up to the majority of the public.
Coming to whether Luffy is going to defeat him now or not, I am guessing that he won't lose but it's going to be one long ass fight. I mean we have always seen Luffy vs Boss fights end the last and we are not even done with the other officer fights yet. We will be seeing the officers lose and then see Doflamingo lose which might actually take time. I am guessing that he won't lose the fight and have a rematch because I don't see a better place for a 2nd rematch. Oda always sets up the boss fights in really cool significant places and the palace here sounds perfect for this arc. Any better significant place suggestions would be welcome.
For Isshou vs Sabo fight, I don't see any similar patterns in any of the previous Arcs so I got no idea! To find out how this fight is going to pan out, maybe we need to know the true motive of Isshou. Something that he is willing to gamble his life on using his blind justice ideologies… looking forward for that indeed!
“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
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@xan:
From what I can see this arc and what many would agree, it has been pretty much an advanced version of Alabasta. If we go ahead and compare via the same lines, the entire Alabasta incident being covered and the Dressrosa incident possibly getting covered seems to be perhaps easy enough although in the latter case, the incident might obviously leak out big time due to the wide extent of Joker's influence. Nevertheless, not many people actually know who is fighting Doflamingo now so even if he is defeated and Dressrosa is saved, the WG can conveniently mention Isshou as the one who defeated him due to him being the Joker = Smoker's forces defeating Crocodile due to him having an underground organization. It has been proven time and again that the media is being controlled by the WG so it's not very hard for them to cover up to the majority of the public.
1. Brokers know that Luffy and Law are responsible, Big Mama knows it too that's If you put two and two together
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1. Brokers know that Luffy and Law are responsible, Big Mama knows it too that's If you put two and two together
2. Absalom1. Yup but that won't bother the WG. Their only concern are the people and not the Yonkou. They want to make sure the countries under them do not get rattled by shocking news and news of their mistakes. They won't bother about Yonkous knowing anything about their issues
2. Absalom… and so? That doesn't prove anything that the WG isn't controlling the media. We don't have any proof that Absalom is some sort of a maverick publisher publishing news away from the WG's control. The WG might still be censoring his captures big time.“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
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@xan:
1. Yup but that won't bother the WG. Their only concern are the people and not the Yonkou. They want to make sure the countries under them do not get rattled by shocking news and news of their mistakes. They won't bother about Yonkous knowing anything about their issues
Why do people keeps saying that, the WG should care since this is an opening and a Yonkou can benefit with this sort of thing by trying to acquire the title that Dofla will lose
2. Absalom… and so? That doesn't prove anything that the WG isn't controlling the media. We don't have any proof that Absalom is some sort of a maverick publisher publishing news away from the WG's control. The WG might still be censoring his captures big time.
Absalom releases scopes about Pirates, Absalom saved Moria during the War, Maria MUST hate the WG for sending Dofla to dispose of him, Moria keeps grudges.
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Darth: Fuji will move on by either defeating Sabo or other means then he'll encounter Dofla before Luffy defeats him and the Citizens will go ham on DD/WG thus causing the start of a major outbrake .
ME: Sabo will stall Fuji till the fight is over, Luffy wil defeat Dofla without any interruption of Fuji or citizens.
This things goes way deeper but for some reason we just stayed in Dressrosa
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Ummm for some reason I didn't see Darth's post where it says "Hey you two can you give a damn about this bet", that's weird isn't it
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Oda has too reveal on the Flashback that Vergo posses a METAL Devil Fruit, that's all there's to it
What happens when Ciizens take some part but Fuji is still stalled? Tie? You should also add some shamefull avatar/sig. "X was right"
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Why do people keeps saying that, the WG should care since this is an opening and a Yonkou can benefit with this sort of thing by trying to acquire the title that Dofla will lose
Absalom releases scopes about Pirates, Absalom saved Moria during the War, Maria MUST hate the WG for sending Dofla to dispose of him, Moria keeps grudges.
Umm.. why would a Yonkou try to acquire the title Dofla will lose? Not sure if I got that properly. Anyways the only concern for WG hiding the fact that Law/Luffy defeated a shichibukai would be to stop other pirates from losing fear over them and to not let the public from other countries to know that a government appointed pirate had terrorized a country for years. The Yonkous would in fact be pissed off at Luffy/Law for ruining their chances of getting SAD as mentioned in the manga and not pissed off with the WG or find it as a grave opening to do something about it. Ultimately Yonkous will come to know either case! WG will try to cover up mostly to save its face against the general public
Absalom saved Moria during the war… is a guess not proven yet. But even if it is true and even if Moria keeps grudges and Absalom releases scopes about pirates... they all get released by the newspapers that are controlled by the WG. Isn't it the same WG's newspapers that showed the Absalom's scoop about the alliance of Kidd that magically revised it's news to show about Doflamingo?!
“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
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I'll go down with vagabond if need be!! VERGO DF!!!
I'm going to need to do a catch-up for the latest spree.
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What happens when Ciizens take some part but Fuji is still stalled? Tie? You should also add some shamefull avatar/sig. "X was right"
good suggestion, Ill talk it over with Darth
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@xan:
Nevertheless, not many people actually know who is fighting Doflamingo now so even if he is defeated and Dressrosa is saved, the WG can conveniently mention Isshou as the one who defeated him due to him being the Joker = Smoker's forces defeating Crocodile due to him having an underground organization. It has been proven time and again that the media is being controlled by the WG so it's not very hard for them to cover up to the majority of the public.
The entire island knows who's fighting Dofla since he went and offered rewards for Luffy, Law, Riku and others.
And the media part was already covered by Shadowgreed. For all we know, Abusa could be on Dressrosa now. WG might serve their own version of the story to the Blues, but there are too many people from different parts of New World on Dressrosa.
Besides, let's look at this from the plot perspective. SH win, WG covers shit up, no consequences.
SH win, WG can't cover shit up, New World and WG are shaken. If Oda wants to start wrapping up the story slowly, he can't keep things at status quo forever. Maybe the intistution of Shichibukai will fall apart sooner than expected. -
@Myu:
I'll go down with vagabond if need be!! VERGO DF!!!
I'm going to need to do a catch-up for the latest spree.
Gosh you real want me out, don't you lol
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Gosh you real want me out, don't you lol
What happens if Vergo comes back with a bamboo fruit?
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@xan:
Umm.. why would a Yonkou try to acquire the title Dofla will lose? Not sure if I got that properly. Anyways the only concern for WG hiding the fact that Law/Luffy defeated a shichibukai would be to stop other pirates from losing fear over them and to not let the public from other countries to know that a government appointed pirate had terrorized a country for years. The Yonkous would in fact be pissed off at Luffy/Law for ruining their chances of getting SAD as mentioned in the manga and not pissed off with the WG or find it as a grave opening to do something about it. Ultimately Yonkous will come to know either case! WG will try to cover up mostly to save its face against the general public
I'm talking about the Underground title even though I personally don't think they need it but still a greedy person will want to acquire such title.
Losing fear over the WG? umm This town has a bunch of ships from different countries that are smuggling weapons from Dofla, so keeping the New World quite is kinda out of reach IMO, now If you were talking about the first half where they don't really know anything and can be persuaded really then Yes, but the New world? Nah
Absalom saved Moria during the war… is a guess not proven yet. But even if it is true and even if Moria keeps grudges and Absalom releases scopes about pirates... they all get released by the newspapers that are controlled by the WG. Isn't it the same WG's newspapers that showed the Absalom's scoop about the alliance of Kidd that magically revised it's news to show about Doflamingo?!
Yes, but we don't know the extent of Absalom and how they deal with the scopes, so is pointless to theories over it even though I'm still standing by my point that he will help a lot when the time to release the news comes cuz I don't see any point on Oda letting us know that Absalom has been active and letting something as big as this slide under the rug, I just don't see it
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What happens if Vergo comes back with a bamboo fruit?
Is the Bambo Metal?
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@xan:
Absalom saved Moria during the war… is a guess not proven yet. But even if it is true and even if Moria keeps grudges and Absalom releases scopes about pirates... they all get released by the newspapers that are controlled by the WG. Isn't it the same WG's newspapers that showed the Absalom's scoop about the alliance of Kidd that magically revised it's news to show about Doflamingo?!
Absalom was seen together with Hogback on a ship with Moria's flag on it, running away from Kid's island. Doesn't need much more poof, I mean proof.
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Is the Bambo Metal?
Is the bet off if Vergo has a devil fruit but it's not metal paramecia?
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Absalom was seen together with Hogback on a ship with Moria's flag on it, running away from Kid's island. Doesn't need much more poof, I mean proof.
D: In Chapter 700 there is a reporter named "Absa", that's referring to Absalom right? Right? And if you look closely, there's even the pirate ship. What other kinds of eroti… amazing articles... What other kinds of eroti... I mean, moving articles... What other kinds of erotic articles does he write? P.N. Makino♡LOVE
O: Yes, that is Absalom. How nostalgic. In fact, he was also at the Battle of Marineford. After the battle, Doflamingo stated that something strange happened to Moriah. I wonder why? Perona is also worried. Did Moriah really die? The only thing that I can reveal right now is Absalom, going by the name "Absa", has been reporting a lot of big news using his Suke Suke no Mi; this is true. He can take many interesting photographs with that ability. His articles are very popular right now.well oda practically outright stated it in sbs volume 71
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D: In Chapter 700 there is a reporter named "Absa", that's referring to Absalom right? Right? And if you look closely, there's even the pirate ship. What other kinds of eroti… amazing articles... What other kinds of eroti... I mean, moving articles... What other kinds of erotic articles does he write? P.N. Makino♡LOVE
O: Yes, that is Absalom. How nostalgic. In fact, he was also at the Battle of Marineford. After the battle, Doflamingo stated that something strange happened to Moriah. I wonder why? Perona is also worried. Did Moriah really die? The only thing that I can reveal right now is Absalom, going by the name "Absa", has been reporting a lot of big news using his Suke Suke no Mi; this is true. He can take many interesting photographs with that ability. His articles are very popular right now.well oda practically outright stated it in sbs volume 71
Didn't even see that. I should start following SBS more actively again.
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Didn't even see that. I should start following SBS more actively again.
they are noteworthy alone for their penisjokes the new one with hody is hilarious :ninja:
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Is the bet off if Vergo has a devil fruit but it's not metal paramecia?
Like hell it is, he loses the bet If Vergo ends up having a Devil Fruit that is not Metal, no like he will have one unless he eats the one that is currently on PH
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Oda started the team up. Luffy landed the Red Hawk on defenceless, taken by surprise Doula Mongo.
Doula Mongo saw it coming, but wasn't fast enough to react.
He wasn't defenseless and taken by surprise.
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The best thing about the Red Hawk is that it shows how Luffy has no problems doubelteaming an opponent. No typical shounen hero-honor bullshit going on, he is a pirate and not above using cheap tricks.
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What if Vergo's bamboo ate the metal df ?
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The best thing about the Red Hawk is that it shows how Luffy has no problems doubelteaming an opponent. No typical shounen hero-honor bullshit going on, he is a pirate and not above using cheap tricks.
Well, yeah, Doula Mongo is also using cheap tricks, so it's only fair Luffy does it too.
Same for pretty much 90% of the people Luffy has fought too.
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So, if Vergo is made of "quicksilver"..would that be a paramecia or logia ;) ;)
Fire is hot, so are ladies. Sorry Sanji lovers, a mera mera no mi lady will join and melt his heart 
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Maybe Vergo is just a Devil Fruit that resolved to eat itself.
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The best thing about the Red Hawk is that it shows how Luffy has no problems doubelteaming an opponent. No typical shounen hero-honor bullshit going on, he is a pirate and not above using cheap tricks.
Well running seems the air of the hill seems to make people quite cooperative. Just look at how fast the gladiators decided to team up. Must be the flowers.
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Well running seems the air of the hill seems to make people quite cooperative. Just look at how fast the gladiators decided to team up. Must be the flowers.
Unless it's the scent of Vergo reincarnated as a metal flower DF ?
(Heh, for once DF- and/or power-level related bickering actually makes this thread funny AND Darth is at the very heart of it. That's gotta be a first :p)
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Metal ate vergo-vergo no mi.
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So, if Vergo is made of "quicksilver"..would that be a paramecia or logia ;) ;)
What is QuickSilver made of?, foil?
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Metal ate vergo-vergo no mi.
Oh, maybe Doffy aquired Secret Agent fruit, and he wanted to create a perfect spy, so he carved a piece of steel to look precisely like human with his incredibly heavy on ulity powers, and then fed it the fruit?
Thus, he gave birth to his very own, artificial, Secret Agent Man!
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What is QuickSilver made of?, foil?
I think that's an alternate name for Mercury…?
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