Yeaaah….considering how there are 12+ DQ games they can pick from and most first Musou titles usually start from 14-18ish playable characters, odds are they probably won't put any villains in (at least not from any of the original DQ games).
Unless it's
! Psaro from DQIV which would be pretty freaking cool
Alas, maybe in DQ Heroes 2 I'll be able to play as Dragonlord and fulfill my dream of flying around and eating a bunch of slimes. :(
@Purple:
I cannot wait til this game comes over stateside and consequently is redubbed by its original localized name of "Dragon Warriors"
Lol, why did they even change it from quest to warrior, cause they wanted to make it more appealing to the us audience?
…Really I just wanna play as Sabercat and a robot.
Also, as its a musou game, I can actually imagine them pulling the usual slime trick where they get shit for stats the entire game, and then suddenly start rocketing near max level.
Pun was unintentional I assume?
Lol, why did they even change it from quest to warrior, cause they wanted to make it more appealing to the us audience?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Warrior#North_American_localization
Ah so it was changed to avoid copyright infringement, okay.
I have to wonder how Dragon Quest might have done if they hadn't edited it so much in the early releases? Left in the dragonball art, and the goofy humor rather than all the serious thees and thous and such.
Dragonball artwork wouldn't have mattered outside the cover and instruction book, but…. the tone was definitely different.
Ah they will put jessica in, for the fanservice at least if no other reason.^^
Again. TEN GAMES in the main franchise alone. It's actually pretty unlikely there will be more than two human reps per game, unless there was one game that was just far more popular than all the others, or one that was really unpopular.
Look towards Final Fantasy Dissidia to get an idea of roster choices. You've got iconography and varied playstyles first and foremost… and then a sequel game will grab a smattering more characters... based on being the second most popular and not overlapping with pevious characters... but you still aren't going to get the entire FF7 cast included regardless, and 1, 2, 3, 6 and 9 are going to get skipped entirely for extra characters.. 7 being the most prominent game will get Aeris as an assist DLC, that's it.
Can't know where their priorities lie until we start seeing some roster, but I figure the main leads have priority. And Yangus is the only one to get a spinoff game. They're not going to have three reps from DQ8, because then they'd just have to have all 4, and thats not going to happen first time out.
Other games have other girls, and being Koei they'll definitely fit a few female characters in there.
I was ultimately joking and don't really expect her in the first game. They probably just end up with small roster as one piece 1 or hyrule warriors etc. With the amount of this warrior titles omega force is creating I wonder how many people are working there. Although they basically reskin the same game over and over with slight changes to the mechanics here and there. I wonder for how long they will be able to do that.
@Purple:
I cannot wait til this game comes over stateside and consequently is redubbed by its original localized name of "Dragon Warriors"
No…it would be Dragon Quest Warriors 
Musou games just don't work that way. No way in hell they do an entire cast from any game in their first outing, not even 8. We'll be lucky in fact to get one rep from each game… extremely lucky to get upwards of two reps from each.
While I definitely agree with you for the most part, the end of the video had four reps from DQ IV.
While I definitely agree with you for the most part, the end of the video had four reps from DQ IV.
Extremely lucky to get upwards of two reps from each.
If several games have more characters than that, it's only because other games are going to have 1 or 0 reps.
Musou games just do not have starting rosters higher than 15 or so unless there's massive cloning like in the Gundam games..
if any title gets more than 1 or 2 characters, it WOULD be DQ4. Still the most popular entry in Japan.
Musou games just don't work that way. No way in hell they do an entire cast from any game in their first outing, not even 8. We'll be lucky in fact to get one rep from each game… extremely lucky to get upwards of two reps from each.
(For instance, in Gundam, while they had Heero and Zechs in the first game, they didn't add Duo and Trowa until the third... and STILL haven't added Quatra or Wefei by the fourth... even though its really easy to point to that version of the franchise only having five lead characters.... and they even added the side character Treis before the leads, and gave Heero a SECOND mech. And have ignored several franchises entirely while pouring heavy love onto others. They have weird priorities.)
They'll go with whoever is historically the most popular. And whoever fills a quota of being female.
The one advantage 8 has going for it is its characters are already the most realized in full graphical form, design, and voice, and its the best known game stateside. Yangus is likely a shoo-in, since he actually got a spinoff game and is a fairly distinct design, and Hero was the face of that game. But Jessica and Angelo will be harder pressed to get in as playables.
Jessica is a shoe in due to fanservice, they love to do that. Hero of 8 has a good chance of getting in being the main of the game. Also Dhoulmagus will most likely get in there as a villain.
if any title gets more than 1 or 2 characters, it WOULD be DQ4. Still the most popular entry in Japan.
There any particular reason for that?
Jessica is a shoe in due to fanservice, they love to do that. Hero of 8 has a good chance of getting in being the main of the game. Also Dhoulmagus will most likely get in there as a villain.
Yes, they'll take as many female characters as they can reasonably cram in.
Doesn't mean any character from a given game is a guarantee just because of their gender though.
After all, they have to hold some fan favorites till Dragon Warriors 2.
tecmo Koei has been doing a lot of these spin offs lately and I love them for it
There any particular reason for that?
I suspect it's because it has the best-defined characters of all the 8/16 bit era titles–Torneko, the dancing sisters, Alena, etc. They all play off of each other well, and the individual chapters also helps a lot, because then you play through each character's eyes. the party banter is excellent.
I suspect it's because it has the best-defined characters of all the 8/16 bit era titles–Torneko, the dancing sisters, Alena, etc. They all play off of each other well, and the individual chapters also helps a lot, because then you play through each character's eyes. the party banter is excellent.
Huh. I always thought DQ3 or DQ5 was more popular over there.
If I can't roll over enemies as a grandpa slime I declare this game to be a failure.
some new Hyrule Warriors videos:
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Look at this bug FEATURE http://www.gonintendo.com/s/237394-random-time-jp-hyrule-warriors-glitch-messes-up-the-characters-big-time
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Play mechanic in regular Musou games equals glitch in other games.
Well….I guess that's what patches are for, right?
Well….I guess that's what patches are for, right?
Patches that undo bugs created by other patches….but yeah that's one of the things patches exist for.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Patches that undo bugs created by other patches….but yeah that's one of the things patches exist for.
The cycle of patches.
Or in this case "patch drunk love".
So, has anyone here played Hyrule Warriors? Part of me kinda wants it due to how big a Zelda fan I am, but almost every single review I've found on it thus far basically just says "It's a Dynasty Warriors game. If you like DW, you'll like this, otherwise you won't" but doesn't actually review it as if the reader has never played a DW game…
I've only played like one or two in passing. I've liked what little I've played, but I've never played an ENTIRE DW game, and everyone I've seen talk negatively about them says the issue is that it gets repetitive...
I'm just not sure if I should buy this or not lol.
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Dynasty Warriors games are awesome. I tend to sink about 100 hours into each title for probably two dozen games now and have for over a decade now.
Its repetitive, but the games aren't so much about the challenge… (not until hard mode anyway) but about getting really good with a character you like and becoming great at their combos and becoming awesome.
I sucked at the 3rd one in ps2, but I enjoyed it a lot in the pc in 8 xtreme blablabla.
I actualy found the plot anoying once I realized that I was murdering millions of peasants because "honor", "justice" or "ambition", and it made me feel bad. But the gameplay is still fun.
Dynasty Warriors games are awesome. I tend to sink about 100 hours into each title for probably two dozen games now and have for over a decade now.
Its repetitive, but the games aren't so much about the challenge… (not until hard mode anyway) but about getting really good with a character you like and becoming great at their combos and becoming awesome.
I haven't played any dynasty games before, but from videos i've seen regardless of repetitiveness I figure I'll be hooked to trying to unlock everything and rpg level up all characters.
I imagine I'll sink a godo 100 hours in, and at that point if i never want to play again becuase it is REPETITIVE, then who gives a flying F. It managed to keep me playing for 100 hours. More than a lot of other games can say.
the only thing that could stop me is the fact that game slike Smash and Bayonetta are coming out so soon after this that I might get distracted, lol.
Oddly, while I typically clock abotu 100 hours into a Musou game… the One Piece games I only managed 20 or 30 hours.
Probably because in those cases I know the story and characters far better so I'm bothered by all the problems and lack of including characters I'd prefer to play as.
Richie or bust
just got confirmation that hyrule warriors has been dispatched. Hopefully it arrives tomorrow. I can't wait :D
Got home to find my copy with my neighbour.
Been playing it for the last hour or so. TK have put a lot of work into the presentation, it looks fantastic. The old school LOZ map in adventure mode is pretty cool too. Got the rest of the week off, so given that the game came so early I might be able to finish it before I go back to work.
It seems the 3 other enemy characters from hyrule warriors were confirmed during the TGS koei stream to be coming as DLC
Cia Gameplay
Gonintendo also has this listed with it
curious as to what these mean, skins?
That's kinda weird, I wonder why they didn't those "new villains" as playable characters from the start. It wouldn't surprise me if they were planned originally as dlc…but wouldn't it have been a smarter marketing/profitable move to make the bigger names as DLC? (I.e. Zant, Ghir and Ganondorf)
My gut feeling is saying they probably used former, familiar villains more as marketing of the game itself rather than as a DLC package.
Still, kinda weird that they put these extra bozos as DLC rather than playable without extra downloading
Found the info translated into English:
September 30th - FREE:
Update 1.3.0
October 16th - 1,200 Yen:
Hyrule Warriors Master Quest Pack
November - 1,200 Yen:
Twilight Princess Pack
January - 1200 Yen:
Majora's Mask Pack
February - 500 Yen:
Ganon Pack:
Buy the Season Pass for 3000 yen ($30, but that may not be the case internationally). You get Dark Link with this.
To sum what you're getting in the Season Pass:
Wow. Very impressed by this, and happy that Cia, Wizro & Valga will be free…
How many wanna bet Skull Kid is one of the Majora's Mask characters!? ;)
Free eh? Very nice to hear. New characters are Ashei, Skull kid and young link perhaps?
My guess is: True form Midna, Skull kid and either Tingle or Fierce Deity Link
It's a possibility that True Form Midna may be one of the new weapons, considering Midna originally was supposed to have two weapon types based on the past demo builds.
But if not, it'll still be cool to play as her and see how powerful she really is. All-in-all, that much DLC is definitely worth it. Looking forward to seeing all of it…
so cia is free huh? i assumed cia was the twilight princess character and the other 2 were the majora's mask one. But Thats cool if they're free. I wonder if those dates are the same for us. I would guess that if fierce diety link isn't his own character he is at least a new costume for link in majora dlc
Awesome I wanted to play as Volga
Yeah, thats about par for the course for Koei's DLC.
trying to figure out who the other character would be for the Majora's mask pack I know 1 would likely be Skull Kid but for the second character I can only think of 2 options Fierce Diety Link (more likely to be a skin though) and Young Link with Goron, Zora, and Deku Kid mask weapons
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trying to figure out who the other character would be for the Majora's mask pack I know 1 would likely be Skull Kid but for the second character I can only think of 2 options Fierce Diety Link (more likely to be a skin though) and Young Link with Goron, Zora, and Deku Kid mask weapons
Tingle. Or, going by Agitha logic, maybe Kafei.
It will be revealed that Kafei is a character in the DLC packs, and his moveset will involve walking, dragging blocks, and stepping on buttons
Or, to really troll the Mikau/Zora Link fans… Lulu! Who will have the exact same move set that Ruto does.
It will be revealed that the Deku Butler will be the other character in the Majora's Mask pack. His moveset will purely consist of floating, moving fast, and spouting flames randomly
No, no, it'll actually be the Deku Butler's son… who will remain stationary forever.
Bunk! I made you sad! And also myself. Poor Deku Butler's son…
Nintendo seem to be on their game for once as far as internet is concerned (koei influence I guess?). The day one patch and the preorder pack are both available, even though the game doesn't officially release until tomorrow.
Playing as dark link now, hope nobody crouches next to a wall
Keoi is pretty good about their DLC. They won't skimp on characters released in it… in fact, those characters are quite likely to be the most interesting, powerful, and overall broken.
If its anything like their Dynasty/Samurai/Gundam DLCs anyway.
If its like their One Piece DLC it'll be completely shit costumes that add nothing.
