Oh man that one picture still looks nicely detailed.^^
Hunter x Hunter II
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The one where the backgrounds are all stock ziptone patterns?
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The one where the backgrounds are all stock ziptone patterns?
To be fair I think they are there for a reason, to portray the conflict or whatever.^^ The characters are still well drawn.
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Raws are out, lots of talking
http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan/Hunter-x-Hunter/Hunter-x-Hunter-342-Raw-Scan
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Raws are out, lots of talking
http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan/Hunter-x-Hunter/Hunter-x-Hunter-342-Raw-Scan
Welp it looks like we got a main protagonist for this arc.. haha Well I hope so. Give little Gon and Killua a break.
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Togashi really stepped his game up with the art. It's beautiful.
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Well he has had 2 years to do these chapters after all :ninja:
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For everytime a Chinese scan is labeled as a raw, scanlators should release an "English" translation in Welsh language.
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http://image.mangabird.info/sites/default/files/selfupload/hunter342spoiler.jpg
! Spoiler 342 .
! Conversation:
! Ging: From now on, I'm the one who will play with you. Until you beg for forgiveness.
! Pariston: Finally, you will be my opponent huh.
! Ging: Opponent? I doubt it. I think I'm the only one who will be enjoying it.
! Inserted Text: What lies behind their smiles?The panels and the spoiler text almost makes it look as if something sexual is going on.
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Isn't Pouf the truly emotionless one here? Pitou has his/her "motherly instincts", and Youpi gained warrior's respect for his foes after fighting them, but Pouf just seems maniacal. He was the closest to murdering Komugi when she was having her games with Meruem.
EDIT: I think we can all agree this manga needs more Leorio.
Pouf gave his body to save the King. The manga even says that act made him and Youpi close to the level of the king because of the pure unconditional love it took. Pitou does the same when she let's Gon kill her so his new powers won't reach the king because he'll never be ever to use them again. Well until he got to cheat.
You guys had me feeling like I was in a minority but when I went to try and find the new chapter (I also buy it legally Monday's) I found a topic by anime fans on reddit who felt that Pitou deserved better treatment in death, some even wishing she never died and had a chance to reform, so I feel better.
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Pouf gave his body to save the King. The manga even says that act made him and Youpi close to the level of the king because of the pure unconditional love it took. Pitou does the same when she let's Gon kill her so his new powers won't reach the king because he'll never be ever to use them again. Well until he got to cheat.
You guys had me feeling like I was in a minority but when I went to try and find the new chapter (I also buy it legally Monday's) I found a topic by anime fans on reddit who felt that Pitou deserved better treatment in death, some even wishing she never died and had a chance to reform, so I feel better.
Pitou did not let Gon kill her, she had no chance against him. It was a one-sided battle.
I think you mean that Pitou was glad that Gon's attention was fixated not on the King.
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Well he has had 2 years to do these chapters after all :ninja:
That is not the case. He started drawing again a couple of weeks ago. Nakatani mentioned it indirectly in the shonen jump podcast
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That is not the case. He started drawing again a couple of weeks ago. Nakatani mentioned it indirectly in the shonen jump podcast
I think you missed the implied sarcasm :P
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Looks like the people that wanted Ging this arc might get their wish.
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Still reading
http://www.mangapanda.com/hunter-x-hunter/342/6
Holy crap Togashi,what is up with that mans incredibly detailed yet disturbingly cartoonish face. Is this what you spent you hiatus trying to draw? -
I guess i´m going to wait for a better translation, because i was lost for half of that conversation.
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Again, the translations makes it harder to understand what is going on, like the last chapter.
But seriously, the art is more amazing than the last chapters of chimera arc. HunterxHunter really evolved from the basic premise of the first chapter until now. I really like it when a series evolve along with its readers. We got more information about the world in the whole series with these 2 chapters than the previous arcs.
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This translation is awesome. It's like I'm in university again - I know every word, but together they make very little sense.
! They want to trick immigrants by sending them onto some backward islands, and pretend it's DC.
But hunters and Beyond are going to real DC. On the same ship.
And Pariston wants to take chimeras with them. To the place they technically live already. Or what?
! Okay, I've never felt this dense after reading manga. -
Hopefully that guy from 4chan last week is going to translate this chapter too, otherwise we're completely fucked
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While waiting for Viz's translation, what I've understood from this scan is greatly done.
I can't wait for knowing what Pariston is planning to do with the eggs. -
Please save us 4Chan guy!
Everyone, please raise your hands and send the energy you waste reading Naruto and Bleach every week to send 4chan guy our hopes and dreams of getting better HxH translations.
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http://www.mangapanda.com/hunter-x-hunter/342/5
Here it says that 3 people have safely returned from the trip.
We know two of them are the Neteros, but who is the other one. Is it Ging? Has he been to the DC? -
Can someone PM me the 4chan guy's translation? I can't buy WSJA or othe rlegal alternatives atm, but I want to udnerstand what is going on…
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Or maybe Aohige or Kewl could take a look at this.
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Oh man, i love the design of Beyond Netero. It's like the characters of Outlaws from the marsh and Romance of the three kingdoms decided to have a baby only more rugged.
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Yeah, I'm not translating this series anymore. It just takes a huge amount of time and effort to do, and I really don't have that time at this point. Just doing Gintama and Toriko on a weekly basis can be really frustrating at times, and I'm trying to catch up on stuff I had to put on the backburner for over a year because I was doing 4-5 weekly projects for a couple of years.
Also I'm sure the English Shounen Jump translation's good if you're willing to wait/pay for it. Honestly the whole system scanlations of Jump have of trying sooo sooo hard to get shit out super-fast probably makes a lot of this stuff worse. A lot of the translations of HXH I did probably would've been way better if I had a lot of hours and could've done several passes on them and had people proofreading and helping with them, but if you wanna finish something in like 2-6 hours you can't really do/get that. This chapter and the last one would both really benefit from a lot of time and effort being spent on making it flow well and read easily.
I've been watching the Crunchyroll subs of the HXH anime and remembering back when Molokidan and I were translating HXH, and realized how much better they phrased a lot of stuff and how well the're able to clearly express what's implied or how to get the speech patterns just right so much better than him and me when I was 17-18. A lot of it has to do with just how esoteric the speech patterns get. You need to keep track of what's implied, which character knows what, what everyone's goals are, you need to follow all the logical thought processes, everything about the narrative, etc. Otherwise you can't follow the logistic leaps characters make and convey that sort of thing in English well. You end up with "Well, I don't know why he's saying it but that's what he's saying so I'll just write it literally and hope it makes sense later" kinds of situations. And often you'll choose the wrong definition or a phrasing that gives an English-speaking reader the wrong impression. Or you might even lose track of who the subject/object of the sentence are.
Why are there scanlations that are using the Wild Words Brackets that look like little arrow things ->Like this<- like they're actual punctuation? There're at least a handful of bubbles in Mangapanda's version where they totally fucked up the typesetting… Like the same text is on the same page on page 6 and somebody put in a Skype timestamp in the translation. And there's another bubble that cuts off mid-sentence.
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I… I am going to be incredibly sad if Togashi YYHs this arc. v_v
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i… I am going to be incredibly sad if togashi yyhs this arc. V_v
you shut your bird faced mouth.don't even imply it.
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Well, shit, I need a better translation. I understood like 40% of the chapter.
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Well, shit, I need a better translation. I understood like 40% of the chapter.
well, in a short time the official translation should be available on shonen alpha or whatever it's called, they are probably good
oh wait, you are european, means no manga for you (except if you are in the uk) -
well, in a short time the official translation should be available on shonen alpha or whatever it's called, they are probably good
oh wait, you are european, means no manga for youWhy you do this? :(
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well, in a short time the official translation should be available on shonen alpha or whatever it's called, they are probably good
oh wait, you are european, means no manga for you (except if you are in the uk)Except if you have an Android or iOS device (see a few pages back for the explanation).
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Well, I'm feeling like Kanzai right now.
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Except if you have an Android or iOS device (see a few pages back for the explanation).
really? How would that work? It's probably something illegal though, right? But hey, if there is a way to read shonen jump weekly in germany/france/spain/whatever, go for it
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I realy don't understand what the fuck they're talking about in the past two chapters. Can anyone help?
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I realy don't understand what the fuck they're talking about in the past two chapters. Can anyone help?
I am definitely in the same boat. Would be nice if someone can post a quick summary of the past two chapters. As confusing as it is, it is also very interesting.
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I realy don't understand what the fuck they're talking about in the past two chapters. Can anyone help?
I wish someone would simplify it, it's been a lot of exposition and set up dialogue.
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for the chapter last week, use this;
Some anon over at 4chan translated the whole chapter correctly (or at least in a clearly understandable way):
! Page 1
! You've signed the contract, correct?
! Yes
! Our job is to manage, investigate, and to create a database of travel related information.
! We calculate the travel risks and environmental protection levels while taking into account political and social aspects as well as the local life forms and changes in climate.
! Finally, our job is to arrive at a safety index.
! You've been assigned to here, the Tokko (Exceptional Travels Unit), it's an extremely important position encompasses all of the continents.
! Yes, I'm very aware of the fact.
! Page 2
! Well, alright. I don't do manga translations much, so it might be slow.
! Do you remember Article 1 of the staff covenant?
! "To do a comprehensive investigation of any individuals wishing to go to the new world, and to train them according to our rigorous protocol before considering them for review"
! "Staff members are obligated to accompany and put great effort into assurance of safety"
! In other words?
! We're not letting anybody into the new world.
! If it is unavoidable, we keep a leash on them.
! Right
! We're in a bit of a pickle regarding that very topic as we speak.
! Kakin, correct?
! As a non-member, they've been doing whatever happens to fancy them.
! Not only did they ignore the entire Tokko review process, they're allowing an unlimited number of participants.
! It turns out the biggest issue wasn't "investigation"(sight seeing), but in fact "colonization"(Business).
! Page 3
! The Gatekeepers of the new world despise "rude" people.
! automatic door opening SFX
! If the top level conference being held next month ends up being a bust
! It's going to become extremely difficult to stop Kakin.
! And what happens then?
! "Calamity" (Pandora's Box)
! A box that which ought remain sealed will be opened.
! …......
! A metaphor of some sort....?
! I too scoffed at it when I was younger, much like you.
! Until I came here........
! Page 4
....
! Page 5
! Th-....
! -is...
! All human
-were- human.
! Several hundred years ago a book called "Travel Journals of the New World" was written, thought to be the ramblings of a mad man at the time.
! At the time of publishing it was placed in the fiction section of shelves. In the present, it's regarded as a legendary book.
! Your first assignment is to read this book to the last letter
! scribbles (You can mark it up if you like, this is a mass produced copy)
! I...
Uhm...
What in the world were...
! The price that humans paid for setting foot in the new world
! In fact, it's still being paid in the present
! Page 6
! !?
! Shelf door opening SFX
! You saw all of those twisted rope people, didn't you?
! In the book, people being killed by being twisted up like rope is mentioned.
! However, all of those corpses back there were found here in "our world"
! !!
Did the victims ever go to the new world previously?
! None, which is why it's giving us a headache
Based on their social circle and familial relations, some suspected connections to the mafia, however
! The large amount of witnesses refutes that
! They all say that the victims "suddenly began twisting up out of nowhere"
! Among witnesses were doctors, teachers, pastors and policemen.
! If all of them were high on drugs, I'd say the world is doomed
But even that would be better than our current situation if it were true.
! Anyways
Read that book and submit a report before next week.
! Point out the risks of traveling to the new world from every angle you can think of.
! BANG
! Page 7
! Fwha
! ...........
! He's the sole survivor "within" this institution, but he isn't "human"
! He doesn't eat as a human would
! He's been living self sufficient for the last 50 years.
! Page 8
! G-....
! He's essentially plagued by an illness that makes unable to die
Another document called the "Beyond Report" has much more detailed information regarding this.
! He's the final end result of what is to become of Hunters who enter the new world
! Basically, every single time we've made an attempt to explore, we faced crushing defeat and brought back a calamity, each of which has the capacity to make humanity go extinct.
! All of this is the "fruit of labor" that V5 achieved after secretly attempting "Colonization" (business) after the treaty was put into effect.
! ....
! So then V5 secretly created their own expedition party, avoiding the treaty so that they may head to the new world themselves. (Netero video)
! My son was among the decision making specialists and made a name for himself. (Netero video)
! Page 8
! G-....
! He's essentially plagued by an illness that makes unable to die
Another document called the "Beyond Report" has much more detailed information regarding this.
! He's the final end result of what is to become of Hunters who enter the new world
! Basically, every single time we've made an attempt to explore, we faced crushing defeat and brought back a calamity, each of which has the capacity to make humanity go extinct.
! All of this is the "fruit of labor" that V5 achieved after secretly attempting "Colonization" (business) after the treaty was put into effect.
! ....
! So then V5 secretly created their own expedition party, avoiding the treaty so that they may head to the new world themselves. (Netero video)
! My son was among the decision making specialists and made a name for himself. (Netero video)
! Page 9
! He ignored my warnings and preferred to travel routes that nobody else had used before. As a result, many people came back maimed...along with another new "calamity"
! And so I too declared it taboo for the Hunter Association to enter the new world.
! When I was younger, I set foot in the new world twice myself, however
! The kind of "strength" required there was different from that which I was pursuing myself.
! The type of "strength" that I desired required an opponent. Essentially the kind of "strength" that has individual winners and losers.
! However, there was no individual victory in the new world. Only battle with harsh nature.
! The strength that my son desired was essentially "stubbornness," and it's an indispensable trait for for expeditions in the new continent.
! In fact, you could say that he makes for a much better Hunter than I ever was.
! Page 10
! And now to the real point!
! I want you to lead a successful expedition of the dark continent before my son!!
! The criteria for success is to overcome one of the "calamities" and to bring back Hope (return on investment)
! The difficulty ranking is an indisputable A!!
! However, this is not an order. Only a request.
! It my selfish desire that the Hunter Association be the one to spearhead the "hunt" of the unknown and the difficult
! It does have high returns, however...
! The risks are by far much greater, and sure to put the association in a tricky predicament....!
! Page 11
! It's a haunted house that even -we- quickly ran the other way after just opening the door, not even setting foot!
! stare SFX
! This is most definitely -not- an order!!
! Just think of it as the dreams of an old man six feet under....
! I repeat!! This is definitely -not- an order!!
! I repeat,
! AN ORDER!!!
! is not what this is...
! It's definitely an order...
! yeah....
! Page 12
! Beans! Give us an honest answer
! Huh? Yes!
! There aren't any more wills by the chairman are there?!
! Yes, absolutely
Uhm, any that I know of anyway...
! Damn...
That geezer shows up at just at these critical moments
! Yes...
It's almost as if he never left us....
! His hair is longer, so I suppose this is before the first one
! Well? Chairman Cheadle, are we doing this?
! Not doing it is not an option, being that it's an order
! However
As long as the fact stands that the late chairman claimed "this is not an order,"we can't involve any other association members
! Hm
! Just us Zodiaks, then?
! Crap forgot to do the bottom panel
! I don't mind us heading out to the dark continent, but
! I'm against hunting Beyond in that case
........
! Do you have a moment?
! Page 13
! I'm a rebel
I don't like the idea of just solving all of the problems just like that by doing them both
! If we have the same goals, I don't like the idea of pulling the leg of our competitor either
! And It's a fair match if it's between Kakin and the Association
! Are you sure? The chairman's son has been preparing for decades for this expedition, you know?
! Has anyone amongst us ever even thought about going to the new world?
! I can only think of one
! dreamer (idiot) like that
! Page 14
! I'd make a concession if Jing says he's going to cooperate
! but he's already withdrawn from us and even if here were still with us, he'd do as he pleases anyway
! It's not fair at all
! We aren't even at the same starting point as Beyond
! The hunt is a must! As long as there's no inconsistencies with the chairman's orders, Saiyuu and Kanzai's opinions are nothing but personal sentiments!
! scribble bubbles (inconsissensees…?) (senniments...?) He means ok?
! Are you sure?
! Before we hunt, shouldn't we decide whether the V5 is even in the right?
! (for simplicity, top right to left, then bottom right to left here on for this page)
They do claim they're working for the advancement of humanity, but in the end it's just a war for natural resources isn't it?
There's no just reason for just five countries to make such a decision.
! That's not a decision for a nongovernment organization such as ourselves to make!
! But we can make our intents clear with our actions
! Then you're missing the whole point!! Are you saying you're going to put your political views before the will of the late chairman?!
! RingRing
! It's all so complicated, can you guys just please make a decision
! What? This conversation has something to do with the hunt?
! Sorry, I'm not listening to the conversation at all~~~~~
! Can you two please calm yourselves? We haven't even heard the reason for the hunt yet, Cheadle?
! If he's charged for rioting or criminal incitement, the association will probably process it as an official mission → snake
! Yes
! !!!?
! Page 15
! Yo
! Page 16
! Its been a while, Beans
These guys must be the Zodiacs
! Can you give the V5 a call?
! Tell them "We've caught Beyond Netero"
! Page 17
! Lets go for a give and take kind of relationship, shall we?
! The five calamities that humanity brought back…
! Page 18
! The mysterious sphere that guards an ancient ruin
! Brion, the weapon
! The fiend that causes viral murderous intent
! The twin tailed snake, Hellbell
! Co-dependence of desire
! (Ai)
! The gas life form, Ai
! Equivalent exchange of pleasure and life
! Papu, the man keeping (make into a pet) beast
! The illness that deceives (speaks) of hope, the bottomless despair
! The illness of immortailty, Sobae (Sovae? whatever)
! This place is...
! Not somewhere that humanity should ever return to........!! -
Man the amount of text. Togashi just could write a novel, then he wouldn't need to draw and maybe just draw some character designs for the anime adaptation, lol.
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Was a plot contradiction/retcon revealed in this chapter?
I thought the DC was originally defined as an actual continent near to and similar in size to the major HXH continents, just not displayed on the world map? But now in this chapter, it seems to be a massive mass of land that surrounds the world HXH takes place in?
Sorry, haven't finished chapter 342 yet. Maybe the answer to my q is in the rest of the chapter or I'm just confused
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Mangapanda is just impossible. Mangastream, on the other hand, is legible. Thank god for that, I was starting to think i'd never get a chance to understand these chapters!
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really? How would that work? It's probably something illegal though, right? But hey, if there is a way to read shonen jump weekly in germany/france/spain/whatever, go for it
I don't think that's illegal. It's just bypassing the region restriction of the application stores to install a FREE application.
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Holy fuck, what a freaking log to go through. It's like a massive wall of impenetrable bricks made of fucking Adamantium or something. I guess that's the stuff that makes hardcore HxH fans be all "see? adult thingies! Talks between real looking politicians and corporate ceo's about economy and immigration and risks and benefits! so adult! not a kids shitty comic, no, this is the real adult deaOH MY GOD PARISTON VS GING OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD! You guys think Ging is a Logia or Paramecia? Who has the biggest Ki energy?".
Not even a disrespectful comment or anything. I just find it genuinely funny.
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Was a plot contradiction/retcon revealed in this chapter?
I thought the DC was originally defined as an actual continent near to and similar in size to the major HXH continents, just not displayed on the world map? But now in this chapter, it seems to be a massive mass of land that surrounds the world HXH takes place in?
it was already established in the last batch that DC is muuuuuch larger than the known world. it's not just a single continent, it basically surrounds the "inside"
but this chapter we get more details, i.e., that the known world is right in the middle of a large lake
I guess that's the stuff that makes hardcore HxH fans be all "see? adult thingies! Talks between real looking politicians and corporate ceo's about economy and immigration and risks and benefits! so adult!
…not really.
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it was already established in the last batch that DC is muuuuuch larger than the known world. it's not just a single continent, it basically surrounds the "inside"
but this chapter we get more details, i.e., that the known world is right in the middle of a large lake
I see. Thanks for the explanation
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Was a plot contradiction/retcon revealed in this chapter?
I thought the DC was originally defined as an actual continent near to and similar in size to the major HXH continents, just not displayed on the world map? But now in this chapter, it seems to be a massive mass of land that surrounds the world HXH takes place in?
Sorry, haven't finished chapter 342 yet. Maybe the answer to my q is in the rest of the chapter or I'm just confused
That's not the real DC. Those tiny islands they showed are where Kakin are going to send immigrants and normal people and tell them its the DC while Beyond Netero and his group and the Zodiacs go to the real one beyond the gatekeeper.
That's what I caught anyways.
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That's not the real DC. Those tiny islands they showed are where Kakin are going to send immigrants and normal people and tell them its the DC while Beyond Netero and his group and the Zodiacs go to the real one beyond the gatekeeper.
That's what I caught anyways.
Why go through all that just for saving their pride though?
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A little explanation by someone from MangaStreams comments:
Alright folks this is going to be a fairly long read because Togashi packed a lot of stuff in this chapter:Well we know that Isaac Netero wants the Zodiacs to go to Dark Continent. Netero had also been to the Dark Continent before but found that his view of strength is more on that for combat. Beyond, on the other hand, views strength to be that of determination and the desire to explore the unknown - something Netero acknowledges as a far more virtuous quality of a hunter. This is why Netero is "making a request" for the Hunters Association to set up their own expedition and beat Beyond for the prestige of exploring and colonizing the Dark Continent.
The country of Kakin wants to go to the Dark Continent. The Dark Continent remember from last chapter is taboo and humans have not visited it for centuries.
V5 don't want to deal with this because each time humanity has stepped into the Dark Continent, they've only brought calamities back. Another reason is out of the 28 survivors from the Dark Continent, only 3 were able to live normal lives. Mind you these were powerful individuals with a lot of luck on their side. So it would be very reckless and dangerous for the citizens of Kakin to head over to the Dark Continent.
V5 order The Zodiacs to capture Beyond, as a way to get their own info on the Dark Continent (preferably the calamities).
Beyond gives himself up, proposing they take him to Dark Continent under the pretense that they are chasing him and to obtain greater support for his trip to the Dark Continent from the Hunter's Association and V5.
Zodiacs accept, so they can fulfill Isaac's final request/order.
The V5 plan on inviting Kakin in to turn the organization from the V5 into the V6 in an attempt to limit the damage of the expedition that would otherwise bring more calamities back from the Dark Continent. To ensure a monitored expedition, the Hunter's Association will accompany Beyond by orders of the V5 into the Dark Continent.
The V5 must do this expedition of the Dark Continent while:
1. Keeping Beyond a prisoner
2. Fighting off Beyond's allies
3. Dealing with the calamities
4. Exploring the continent to find ways to benefit mankind.
The King of Kakin is building Black Whale ships to effectively transport people from their world into the Dark Continent. The first ship will send Beyond and presumably the Zodiac 10 along with more in the future. The King estimates one million immigrants over the next five years.
Ging meets with Pariston and proposes he joins Beyond's team. He also tells Pariston to stop causing trouble because Pariston wanted to send his pet army of 5000 Chimera ant soldiers against one of two targets: the New World if the Hunter Association goes along with Beyond or the Hunter Association itself if it doesn't. Also, Ging might want to be a long wolf in the New World…...looks like Gon will have to search for his father in the New World.
Beyond and the Zodiacs will be the first adventurers that manage to successfully infiltrate the Dark Continent officially, and will also establish the first ground base for operations and maybe even starting the cartography of the first continent.