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And for a little random "America has some of the stupidest politicians ever" news: here is a Republican who thought his opponent is dead and using a body double.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/27/1310026/-Republican-candidate-is-convinced-his-opponent-is-dead-and-using-a-body-double-as-a-stand-in?detail=facebook# -
Could be worse he could've said he was replaced by aliens but I guess that standard was beaten to death.
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Those dems (and secretly liberal repubs) are always going on about scientific advancement and more money into stuff like the NSF and the NIH. Now we know the real reason. For America to be taken over by robot body doubles.
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@Purple:
Those dems (and secretly liberal repubs) are always going on about scientific advancement and more money into stuff like the NSF and the NIH. Now we know the real reason. For America to be taken over by robot body doubles.
! Who knows how many have already been "replaced".
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Supreme Court just ruled that businesses could deny its employees contraceptive drugs if it goes against their "religious beliefs"
Ladies and gentlemen we are one step closer to corporations being allowed to vote.
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http://news.yahoo.com/justices-cant-employers-cover-contraception-141923713–finance.html
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that some corporations can hold religious objections that allow them to opt out of the new health law requirement that they cover contraceptives for women.
The justices' 5-4 decision is the first time that the high court has ruled that profit-seeking businesses can hold religious views under federal law. And it means the Obama administration must search for a different way of providing free contraception to women who are covered under objecting companies' health insurance plans.
This is such bullshit. Companies shouldn't have the choice to opt out of anything that is a requirement of the law.
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Uggh. Birth control isn't only for preventing pregnancy, you jackasses. I know a ton of women who are on various birth controls that aren't sexually active at all in order to help with a whole variety of other things. Or that try to get on it but can't afford it due to dumb-ness inflating the costs outrageously. (But the company will still provide for viagra and vasectomies?)
That women have to go an extra mile to get something that men get provided (and for the men its ONLY a sex benefit) or can't get it at all is just… dumb? (See also the closing of abortion locations for no reason...?)
I wonder, if it was called "Menstral Regulation" instead of "Birth Control" would it just completely bypass all the stupid reasons it so casually gets blocked? Because then religious nuts, and old men that should have no say in such things would just look past it as "icky feminine things" rather than the zealotry of "pre-conception abortion"?
(See also calling "Obamacare" instead "Insurance reform")
Nevermind the minefield precedent this sets for other religious "exemptions" if they so see fit. UGH.
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Uggh. Birth control isn't only for preventing pregnancy, you jackasses. I know a ton of women who are on various birth controls that aren't sexually active at all in order to help with a whole variety of other things. Or that try to get on it but can't afford it due to dumb-ness inflating the costs outrageously. (But the company will still provide for viagra and vasectomies?)
That women have to go an extra mile to get something that men get provided (and for the men its ONLY a sex benefit) or can't get it at all is just… dumb? (See also the closing of abortion locations for no reason...?)
I wonder, if it was called "Menstral Regulation" instead of "Birth Control" would it just completely bypass all the stupid reasons it so casually gets blocked? Because then religious nuts, and old men that should have no say in such things would just look past it as "icky feminine things" rather than the zealotry of "pre-conception abortion"?
(See also calling "Obamacare" instead "Insurance reform")
Nevermind the minefield precedent this sets for other religious "exemptions" if they so see fit. UGH.
The hilarious/sad part about this is that all the judges who agreed with this are all men while the dissenters were all the female justices.
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Nevermind the minefield precedent this sets for other religious "exemptions" if they so see fit. UGH.
Like that Kansas anti-gay discrimination bill that would have allowed police and firefighters to refuse to help the 911 calls of gay/lesbian couples if it went against their "religious beliefs"?
Minefield is an understatement.
The hilarious/sad part about this is that all the judges who agreed with this are all men while the dissenters were all the female justices.
UUUGGGHHH
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This ruling is completely asinine. So the company can withhold coverage for a medical procedure/medication purely because the owner of the company's religion precludes them themselves from utilizing said medical procedure/medication. Where do they draw the line? Is it only going to be regarding Birth control and other pregnancy related issues? What about a company owned by a Jehova's Witness who deems that they don't want to pay for blood transfusions for their employees because their religion doesn't allow for that? This ruling is going to make it so that as long as there's a basis in religion for the owner to exclude coverage of something on their medical plan they are allowed to.
The worst part of this, and which SCOTUS didn't address, is that HL's objection to having their insurance cover certain types of contraception depends on their (willful??) misunderstanding of how they work - that they actually induce abortions, rather than preventing conception. Another issue is that health insurance is generally considered part of employees' compensation - i.e. part of their wages.
Birth control does not equal abortion.(And even abortion should be available for a WIDE variety of reasons)
The hilarious/sad part about this is that all the judges who agreed with this are all men while the dissenters were all the female justices.
Is that true?
Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg filed a dissenting opinion joined by Justice Sonia Sotomayor and mostly joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer. Ginsburg warned in her dissent that the decision was not as narrow as it claimed to be. "In a decision of startling breadth, the Court holds that commercial enterprises, including corporations, along with partnerships and sole proprietorships, can opt out of any law (saving only tax laws) they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs," Ginsburg wrote.
I'm fine with religion… long as you keep it to yourself. Once you start messing with other people's lives, it's a problem.
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http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/231974154
Man reading Ruth Ginsburg's dissenting piece and it is beautiful at pointing out the major problems of this decision pertaining to when can public corporations find a loophole to exploit this.
And then Samuel Alito basically responds with "That will NEVER happen, so why don't you just sit down and let our decision stands with no complaints"
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Also. Birth control does not equal abortion.(And even abortion should be available for a WIDE variety of reasons)
Nor do PP centers dabble exclusively in abortions which are not funded by local,state, or federal funds but hey who needs facts and common sense?
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For those who don't have the time to read a 35 page opinion, these are the main points Ginsburg has pointed out:
http://gawker.com/a-treasury-of-justice-ginsburgs-real-talk-in-her-hobby-1598003837/all
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And then Samuel Alito basically responds with "That will NEVER happen, so why don't you just sit down and let our decision stands with no complaints"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/center-for-arizona-policy-hobby-lobby-ruling
Anti-gay activists are already saying that this decision validates discriminatory legislation like the bill they tried to pass in Arizona earlier this year. So expect a ton of such measures to start popping up.
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Since I have no knowledge of your legislative system - is that it then - or can this be readdressed in the future?
Like overturned?
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You could go back and adjust the law but they'd eventually knock it back down on the same reasoning. The only permanent solution is a Constitutional amendment or for a different case challenging this decision in front of a Supreme Court that isn't controlled by a bunch of partisan jackasses who subvert the law to suit their own political beliefs.
Scalia has ruled the exact opposite way in the past when it was on the different side of the aisle.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/center-for-arizona-policy-hobby-lobby-rulingAnti-gay activists are already saying that this decision validates discriminatory legislation like the bill they tried to pass in Arizona earlier this year. So expect a ton of such measures to start popping up.
Arizona must've gotten tired of persecuting immigrants to turn their attention to the homosexuals in their state.
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Now, now, there's enough hate in their heart for both.
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Arizona must've gotten tired of persecuting immigrants to turn their attention to the homosexuals in their state.
It's fine, they and Kansas both failed to pass the laws.
Mississippi on the other hand…
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The only permanent solution is a Constitutional amendment or for a different case challenging this decision in front of a Supreme Court that isn't controlled by a bunch of partisan jackasses who subvert the law to suit their own political beliefs.
Snowball's chance in hell of either of those options happening anytime soon, I would imagine.
This ruling is so dangerously asinine it makes my head ache.
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Of course it won't happen we have a do nothing meaningful congress and Supreme Court justices serve until they retire or die,
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Worst of all, this is most likely only the beginning of the Fuckup Snowball that's bound to come as a result of this ruling.
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Par for the course.
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Yeah. It just boggles the mind. The ruling by itself is bad enough… but the sheer precedent it sets for so many things.
Basically "If your religion doesn't like it, you can break the law, and discrimination is okay" is what has been set into play. Especially jarring after all the progress being made on the whole gay rights thing, to just keep backpeddling on women's rights?
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Yeah. It just boggles the mind. The ruling by itself is bad enough… but the sheer precedent it sets for so many things.
Basically "If your religion doesn't like it, you can break the law, and discrimination is okay" is what has been set into play. Especially jarring after all the progress being made on the whole gay rights thing, to just keep backpeddling on women's rights?
So you could convert to Judaism and never have to pay interest on a loan again?
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Not to mention the simple fact that people who work for closely held corporations now have "religious freedoms" not granted to people who work for publicly held corporations.
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You know, if people were really willing to make a concerted effort, I think this new ruling would be a great opportunity. If corporations start coming out as closeted bigots with their newfound freedom, it could really highlight the problem so that people know who's worth boycotting.
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Well, I don't eat at Chik-Fil-A anymore, and don't buy any books from Orson Scott Card…
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my cousin is a huge lesbian and she loves the dallas chick fil a in her 'gayborhood'. kinda odd to me but she tells me that one store really reaches out to the lgbt community so idk
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Speaking of issues. This is still a thing.
! Of course some states do offer paid maternity leave if I'm not mistaken. This should be a requirement for all states.
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You guys get all the fun whackos, and their creative stories.
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You guys get all the fun whackos, and their creative stories.
That would have made for a great comedic article if Ann Coulter was being sarcastic, but no, she's serious.
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I love that there are people in this country who believe that soccer love is an affliction for which blame must be placed.
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Ann Coulter is just generally awful. I heard her name as a punchline long before I knew who she was.
And people like the metric system BECAUSE IT MAKES FUCKING SENSE. Multiples of 10, universal measurments, standard the entire rest of the world is on!
I've never heard ANY good reason for why the US hasn't converted yet aside from football yard line.. .and wall sockets beign decades of integratedat their current size.
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Those damn Mexicans, coming over here and not being violent enough.
And what's this about not seperating and shaming the losers? Totally un-american is what it is
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Kentucky's gay marriage ban is dead. The ruling is stayed though.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kentucky-gay-marriage-ban-struck-down
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With all the court cases, appeals aside. Only 17 states in the US have not in some way had gay marriage legalized.
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You guys get all the fun whackos, and their creative stories.
Soccer is….immoral?? Huh? Why? How? Just because she doesn
t care about the sport? Or because it wasn
t all too popular beforein the U.S.?? How can anybody so insane and nonsensical still be allowed to have a public output for her ideas? Im all for free speech, but I thinkthis kind of stuff is actually what
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Ann Coulter is a professional troll.
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@Monkey:
Ann Coulter is a professional troll.
Definitely. The problem is that there are countless people who will listen to and be influenced by her crazyness, like they are influenced and manipulated by the likes of Bill O
Reilly. It doesn
t even matter if they believe in their own insane ideas themselves or not, they know they just have to simplify it enough and be as extreme as possible and they will catch peoples attention. It
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Definitely. The problem is that there are countless people who will listen to and be influenced by her crazyness, like they are influenced and manipulated by the likes of Bill O `Reilly.
These people wouldn't be as successful without the people who already want to hear them.
They're more symptom then cause.
The US is in a really weird period right now where lots of things have been changing fast, and with that good comes a backlash of reactionary vomit.
Germany hasn't elected a Turkish president, isn't demographically shifting massively toward massive racial diversity, or is watching a recently powerful mass movement of religious conservatives start to die off in a rapid sudden generational revolution of young people kicking them in the balls.
If it WERE I'd imagine you'd be hearing more.It`s sickening me, I try to imagine what it would be like to have this kind of stuff over here and it just seems like it would have a big damaging effect on the country.
The National Front right next door to you seems to do a fine job. I mean as crazy as US right wing types are, no one has yet to walk into a cathedral and commit suicide over gay marriage as in France.
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@Monkey:
The National Front right next door to you seems to do a fine job. I mean as crazy as US right wing types are, no one has yet to walk into a cathedral and commit suicide over gay marriage as in France.
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…walk into a cathedral and commit suicide over gay marriage as in France.
I don't suppose you happen to have a link to this? I hadn't heard about that, pretty disturbing.
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Oh, good point, I
m not saying we don
t have our fair share of problems. The latest elections in Europe left me stunned, I had no idea the national movements were gaining popularity all over Europe. That incident in France was appalling.Really? What the hell do they show you people in Germany?
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@Panda:
I don't suppose you happen to have a link to this? I hadn't heard about that, pretty disturbing.
Here ya go http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/23/opinion/opinion-poirier-same-sex-marriage-suicide/
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I assumed that what suprised him was the scale of it, not the existance of such organizations.
If Germany is anything like Sweden in that area it was a thing that's been carefully swept under the very bulging carpet.
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I know, i was talking about the popularity
If Germany is anything like Sweden in that area it was a thing that's been carefully swept under the very bulging carpet.
…why?
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It's hard to give a single reason for it, but i suppose that my best attempt at an answer involves the huge stigma that sort of thing has, the notably leftist slant on our major newspapers, a belief that any association, in text, in debate, in reporting or in person, with the enemy where you aren't slamming them harshly is tantamount to supporting them. And of course the fact that if word got out that you supported these parties got out, you'd more than likely be ruined, your higher work opportunities and most of your broader social ties would be cut right off, leading to pretty big shadow number of people who'd never admit to voting for them in public, who went to vote for them come election day.
But that may not be the case in Germany, i was just speculating there.