I really want to see what has happened to the WB crew and what they did during the timeskip. Wonder when we would finally be told something about them.
One Piece Chapter 745: Birdcage
-
-
With Blackbeard declaring it his age, and claiming Whitebeards power and land for himself, he should've racked up alot of followers who want to side themselves with the future top dog of the new world.
So i'd have to say that i think Blackbeard's gang, after their power up trip and circumstances probably are the biggest and baddest by now.
-
With Blackbeard declaring it his age, and claiming Whitebeards power and land for himself, he should've racked up alot of followers who want to side themselves with the future top dog of the new world.
So i'd have to say that i think Blackbeard's gang, after their power up trip and circumstances probably are the biggest and baddest by now.
Join BB and you become part of the (possibly) strongest pirate crew in the world right now.
Join Kaidou and you might get a free Zoan.
Join Shanks and you become part of a fun-loving crew led by the late Pirate King's apprentice.
Join Big Mom and you get… well...
-
Join big mom and live in terror of being eaten
-
force Bruges is not the truth against Sabo
Insulted the most powerful person at the Tech by Sabo
I think the crew is still weak Tech
I see the crew Kaido stronger because he has an army of diners zoan(500) -
@Yonkou:
force Bruges is not the truth against Sabo
Insulted the most powerful person at the Tech by Sabo
I think the crew is still weak Tech
I see the crew Kaido stronger because he has an army of diners zoan(500)What are you talking about?
EDIT:
Didn't see you signature at first!!!
Can you elaborate for us pls -
@Yonkou:
force Bruges is not the truth against Sabo
Insulted the most powerful person at the Tech by Sabo
I think the crew is still weak Tech
I see the crew Kaido stronger because he has an army of diners zoan(500)I'm guessing English isn't your first language.
-
What are you talking about?
I would think that what he meant was that Burgess didn't look good against Sabo, and since he was the first mate, he thinks that the BB crew is still weak. And that Kaido is the strongest because he has his army of 500 Zoans
-
I would think that what he meant was that Burgess didn't look good against Sabo, and since he was the first mate, he thinks that the BB crew is still weak. And that Kaido is the strongest because he has his army of 500 Zoans
Ohh Okey, about your first comment in this page, I would have assumed that Whitebeard allies were the type of pirates that cared about their crews and were loyal to WB's crew, so I don't expect so many of WB allies turning tails and running to BB side, but rather joining Shanks.
-
What are you talking about?
EDIT:
Didn't see you signature at first!!!
Can you elaborate for us plsExpect no more either true or faulting
Kaido wanted to be defeated white beard but he was stopped by Shanks
Is Kaido reckless for the direction of this step white beard? Or is it that Kaido and sure of himself?
The strength lies in his crew Kaido Proof of this is the word of Moria -
Google Translate: Making posts funnier since the dawn of times. Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it over time.
Welcome aboard by the way ^^
-
@Yonkou:
Expect no more either true or faulting
Kaido wanted to be defeated white beard but he was stopped by Shanks
Is Kaido reckless for the direction of this step white beard? Or is it that Kaido and sure of himself?
The strength lies in his crew Kaido Proof of this is the word of MoriaWell, Kaido went after Whitebeard two years ago and he was probably thinking about ambunshing him while WB was distracted by Ace's execution and what not, also I don't think he had the zoan army back then and Moria is not a good example since their history goes way back, they were probably just rookies who entered the New World.
-
Ohh Okey, about your first comment in this page, I would have assumed that Whitebeard allies were the type of pirates that cared about their crews and were loyal to WB's crew, so I don't expect so many of WB allies turning tails and running to BB side, but rather joining Shanks.
Well once he claimed his territory, all those within it would either have to deal with the new managment, or he'd probably crush their opposition.
But i can certainly see many of WB's old allies going with WB's boys, or going to Shanks. Maybe even some freelancing.
And then there's the constant influx of new crews, who would most likely be beaten and absorbed like WB did with for instance Doma
-
Ok my friends
If you do not get me wrong
Shill observation I do not share opinions with you ^^ -
Because liking one of the villains, becasue of the themes he represents and his abilities, automaticaly means I have to hate everyone else.
Characters I've been vocal about disliking… Aokiji, Whitebeard, Spandam, Sabo, Ace, Tenryuubitto.
You guys are simply so limited in your perception that you think I cannot personaly disagree with character and their actions, yet still understands them, and like them.
As if I brought this up. Or even try to bring it up often enough.
And there is a difference between wanting your favorite character beeing seen as actual player of importance in the events, and making them a villain sue.
Ah, yes. Somehow, I'm in every of 11,553 threads in those forums, which are therefore ruined forever.
And chapter threads desolve into power levels discussions every time there is a break. Even if I'm not around.
Darth don't get me wrong i appreciate the fact that you always try to explain your ideas and i also don't blame you for all the power levels discussions i just don't get your blind love for sakazuki and your overall attitude. I don't judge you its just my feelings that im bored about all these stupid conversations, i really liked this forum and i learnt plenty of things, its just my way of thinking
-
Join Big Mom and you get… well...
Eaten?
I always liked how Shanks' crew looks mostly unimpressive. Just sitting around on random islands, drinking and wasting time… But they are probably all dangerous in a fight. They're like those mobsters in the movies who sit around in their restaurant, dressed like chumps, but they won't think twice about getting serious and even killing someone. Like Roux did in the first fucking chapter.
Redhair Pirates, the good fellas.
--- Update From New Post Merge ---
@Yonkou:
Ok my friends
If you do not get me wrong
Shill observation I do not share opinions with you ^^Welcome to AP btw. I always respected people who came to english forums to discuss OP (or other work) despite not using it very well.
-
Now that Sabo got Burgess' fruit of choice I wonder who is going to die because of that. Obviously not Sabo, but someone else needs to lose his haxfruit now, no?
-
Well once he claimed his territory, all those within it would either have to deal with the new managment, or he'd probably crush their opposition.
But i can certainly see many of WB's old allies going with WB's boys, or going to Shanks. Maybe even some freelancing.
And then there's the constant influx of new crews, who would most likely be beaten and absorbed like WB did with for instance Doma
I can definitely see Bartolomeo's generation joining him and probably some of the Cavendish's own generation even though we still don't know nothing about them.
Now that Sabo got Burgess' fruit of choice I wonder who is going to die because of that. Obviously not Sabo, but someone else needs to lose his haxfruit now, no?
I'm pretty sure that whoever it is, he will definitely be someone we already know. Zoan types fits Burguess character, but who has a rare and strong zoan type anyways.
-
next week is the new release right?
-
Now that Sabo got Burgess' fruit of choice I wonder who is going to die because of that. Obviously not Sabo, but someone else needs to lose his haxfruit now, no?
I prefer that no DF user dies, but the Ishi Ishi Fruit fits Burgess pretty well.
I'm pretty sure that whoever it is, he will definitely be someone we already know. Zoan types fits Burguess character, but who has a rare and strong zoan type anyways.
SMILE!!
-
[qimg]http://s7.directupload.net/images/140430/sy33khu2.jpg[/qimg]
In all seriousness though, I doubt anyone got hurt in that incident. Unless the people on Saobody actually live in those groves like Ewoks.
Also questionable if that was really an accident or just Kizaru being Kizaru. Acting weird but still (somewhat?) aware of what he is doing. Blowing up a massive grove does send a message after all.
When is this guy serious, he even trolled beckmann -.-
-
Hell, the only reason Ace was rescued from that stand was luck.
Eh… they did? Or do you not recall that there was Garp between them and Ace? Garp that allowed his grandchild to knock him out? Something he would almost certainly not do for anyone else?
Or Sengoku taking his sweet ass time to attack all of them once they reached the stand? He has enough physical to hold Garp down, he should have just kick Luffy of the platform, and let him climb again. This time with Admirals on his back.
Luck is totally fine. All's fair in love and war. If the Marines are incompetent enough to let Garp defend both his grandkids, then that's on them.
However, you're clearing stretching and reaching claiming that Sengoku was in on it too. Believe what you will. Luck or circumstance, Ace was rescued against the Marines overwhelming advantage, and that was my point.Also something related to the chapter.
Very neat find. I'm always impressed with 1) Oda's own attention to detail and 2) Readers' (like yourself) attention to detail to find these nifty tidbits.
With Blackbeard declaring it his age, and claiming Whitebeards power and land for himself, he should've racked up alot of followers who want to side themselves with the future top dog of the new world.
So i'd have to say that i think Blackbeard's gang, after their power up trip and circumstances probably are the biggest and baddest by now.
this!
Now that Sabo got Burgess' fruit of choice I wonder who is going to die because of that. Obviously not Sabo, but someone else needs to lose his haxfruit now, no?
I always felt like Marco's fruit would be quite useful for someone in BB's crew, so perhaps that's where Burgess will get his next power up. And this is a stretch, but would also give him some flame ability as he was after the flame fruit…
-
Burgess got his ass handed to him by Sabo, but Sabo is the second in command of the revolutionary army. Burgess isn't the second in command of shit
I think each Yonkou will have some kind of advantage over the other. For kaido it's his Zoans and having doflamingo at the bat. For Blackbeard it's the devil fruit chicanery. For Shanks I'm guessing it's absorbing a lot of whitebeard's crew
Right now I'd have to say top dog is Kaido. He's been painted as incredibly ruthless. efficient and strong. Certainly more so than shanks and the buffoonish teach
Weakest is probably big mom
-
I always felt like Marco's fruit would be quite useful for someone in BB's crew, so perhaps that's where Burgess will get his next power up. And this is a stretch, but would also give him some flame ability as he was after the flame fruit…
I can't remember if this is canon or not, but I'm pretty sure Marco's DF's flames only heal his wounds (like a phoenix's) and doesn't cause physical harm to enemies. That being said, it'd still be a pretty sweet power for Burgess to have, especially since most of his attacks are melee based.
-
Hey guys i found something interesting, I don't know if it's an art thing or whatever.
In the top left panel you can see Doflamingo #2 releasing his string but on the bottom of his wrists looks like a thicker string stuck into his hand as if it's like a thread that Doffy would use. Judging from the palms skin positioning i think it's unnatural that it's there.
Is it just me or is it somethig i see :L (Or is it a bone lol)
-
Burgess got his ass handed to him by Sabo, but Sabo is the second in command of the revolutionary army. Burgess isn't the second in command of shit
I think each Yonkou will have some kind of advantage over the other. For kaido it's his Zoans and having doflamingo at the bat. For Blackbeard it's the devil fruit chicanery. For Shanks I'm guessing it's absorbing a lot of whitebeard's crew
Right now I'd have to say top dog is Kaido. He's been painted as incredibly ruthless. efficient and strong. Certainly more so than shanks and the buffoonish teach
Weakest is probably big mom
Maybe, but I think Shanks is the 2nd top after Blackbeard. He stopped Kaido either through a intimidating speech or a successful defense so he couldn't reach marineford. But army wise, Kaido definitely.
-
He seems to produce them from the tip of his fingers, not his wrists.
-
He seems to produce them from the tip of his fingers, not his wrists.
No, I am not saying that he produces them from his wrists, what i am saying is it's like a source that allows him to control it. It's like the body has a specific structure which allows it to be lovely.
-
No, I am not saying that he produces them from his wrists, what i am saying is it's like a source that allows him to control it. It's like the body has a specific structure which allows it to be lovely.
Dude, these are his tendons, don't sweat it. You have it too…
It shows because of how he moves his fingers.
He seems to produce them from the tip of his fingers, not his wrists.
He can also produce strings from his palms
http://img.batoto.net/comics/2013/10/09/o/read52558da5caed7/img000008.png
-
Doffy would be spiderman if they came from his wrists :p
Burgess got his ass handed to him by Sabo, but Sabo is the second in command of the revolutionary army. Burgess isn't the second in command of shit
I think each Yonkou will have some kind of advantage over the other. For kaido it's his Zoans and having doflamingo at the bat. For Blackbeard it's the devil fruit chicanery. For Shanks I'm guessing it's absorbing a lot of whitebeard's crew
Right now I'd have to say top dog is Kaido. He's been painted as incredibly ruthless. efficient and strong. Certainly more so than shanks and the buffoonish teach
Weakest is probably big mom
Well Burgess is first captain of the BB pirates. If BB's crew is set up like WB's, Burgess would have Marco's rank. I woulden't say Sabo beat Burgess one sidedly though, even Sabo said it was going to be a tough match and escaped rather than fully taking out Burgess. Dont get me wrong, I would love to see Sabo whoop Burgess, but I don't think that the last match really counts.
Shanks fought off Kaido no problem and made it to Marineford in fairly quickly though, I don't think Kaido really gave Shanks much trouble in that instance.
BB may act like a buffoon, but he is still the one that took down whitebeard and ace. You can't underestimate him just because he looks like a fat tool, BB is extremely dangerous.
-
cnet translation http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/39761
-
With Blackbeard declaring it his age, and claiming Whitebeards power and land for himself, he should've racked up alot of followers who want to side themselves with the future top dog of the new world.
So i'd have to say that i think Blackbeard's gang, after their power up trip and circumstances probably are the biggest and baddest by now.
Agreed. Altough Burgess perfomance thus far was… poor.
What Blackbeard pirates really need right now, is less hype, and more on screen wins.
-
Dude, these are his tendons, don't sweat it. You have it too…
It shows because of how he moves his fingers.
He can also produce strings from his palms
http://img.batoto.net/comics/2013/10/09/o/read52558da5caed7/img000008.png
Yeah i know that but they're thicker than usual and it just looks weird. That's what i am asking.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
I always felt like Marco's fruit would be quite useful for someone in BB's crew, so perhaps that's where Burgess will get his next power up. And this is a stretch, but would also give him some flame ability as he was after the flame fruit…
I can just imagine Blackbeard hunting down the remainder of Whitebeards crew to steal their Devil Fruits.
-
Luck is totally fine. All's fair in love and war. If the Marines are incompetent enough to let Garp defend both his grandkids, then that's on them.
However, you're clearing stretching and reaching claiming that Sengoku was in on it too. Believe what you will. Luck or circumstance, Ace was rescued against the Marines overwhelming advantage, and that was my point.Actually, you are right. Rechecked the pages now and the pace is much quicker there. I must've confused it with that scene in the anime, which is my mistake.
BUT!
While I agree that using luck as part of your strategy is a feasible solution, there comes a moment when it is supring and lucky enough that you could not possibly predict it would happen, much less hope for it.
It is impressive nonetheless, but the amount of it makes it impossible to claim that Whitebeard side was superior enough in the war to use it as a proof that none of the Yonkou can be taken out by the marines.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Maybe, but I think Shanks is the 2nd top after Blackbeard. He stopped Kaido either through a intimidating speech or a successful defense so he couldn't reach marineford. But army wise, Kaido definitely.
Conservation of Ninjutsu law would be at work there. One Zoan is a deadly threat, like Lucci or Jabra. Army of them will be probably turn to fodder.
-
He can also produce strings from his palms
http://img.batoto.net/comics/2013/10/09/o/read52558da5caed7/img000008.png
I'm just waiting for the moment he produces them out of his butt like a spider. XD
-
Totally off the topic, has any of you seen ain's leg. I mean the scar? It must have a meaning otherwise oda wouldn't draw it( duh). And we know that z and his crew( ain and bins) were attacked by a shichibukai, but it doesn't match with doffy's powers, and non of the yet known shichi's have the power to take a marine admirals arm so who do you think it might be, the seventh shichi??? If yes who do you think he is , and why is Bonney out again? I mean getting captured by AKAINU isn't a laugh. And sorry cause it's off topic. I can't open new threads so…
-
Totally off the topic, has any of you seen ain's leg. I mean the scar? It must have a meaning otherwise oda wouldn't draw it( duh).
It seems like you're overthinking a design quirk that's likely meant to be an injury from the day Z's crew got slaughtered.
That's a bit like saying Zoro's earrings must have a profound meaning because Oda wouldn't draw them otherwise. You can draw things just for aesthetics. -
One Zoan is a deadly threat, like Lucci or Jabra. Army of them will be probably turn to fodder.
Agreed. Also we know that SMILE users are not "perfect zoans", my guess is either they are stuck in one of the transformations, or they can't control it (like Momonuske)
-
It seems like you're overthinking a design quirk that's likely meant to be an injury from the day Z's crew got slaughtered.
That's a bit like saying Zoro's earrings must have a profound meaning because Oda wouldn't draw them otherwise. You can draw things just for aesthetics.The earring is something but a scar that big on a female leg( usually whenever oda tries a sexy character they don't have scars) must be a indication to the7th shichi's power, and what do U think bout Bonney ?
-
Agreed. Also we know that SMILE users are not "perfect zoans", my guess is either they are stuck in one of the transformations, or they can't control it (like Momonuske)
Sorry but I don't think so. Being stuck in the hybrid form f.e. would be inconvenient for the user, but advantageous to Kaidou. And I don't think he'd use them at all if they couldn't be controlled.
-
I think it might tie in with that awakened zoans thing. Like maybe Smiles are harder to control and you lose yourself to an animal faster. And can't go back to being human.
-
@Light:
Sorry but I don't think so. Being stuck in the hybrid form f.e. would be inconvenient for the user, but advantageous to Kaidou. And I don't think he'd use them at all if they couldn't be controlled.
Momonosuke does not look ordinary zoan,but mythical zoan,same as Marco or Sengoku
-
Momonosuke does not look ordinary zoan,but mythical zoan,same as Marco or Sengoku
But it's not a "normal" zoan, it's some sort of SMILE that Vegapunk made.
-
What if the an alliance of the two YONKOU ?
Are they can occupy the world? -
@Yonkou:
What if the an alliance of the two YONKOU ?
Are they can occupy the world?My guess is they can't stand each other, they are in combat over the new world so probably each one of them hates the other.
-
My guess is they can't stand each other, they are in combat over the new world so probably each one of them hates the other.
Yeah, even Shanks was calling Whitebeard an enemy.
-
To transfer it happened but it does not happen
Are two of YONKOU able to occupy the world? -
Not really no. Their forces would be spread way too thin.
Even the WG can't do it without the aid of their member nations
-
@Yonkou:
To transfer it happened but it does not happen
Are two of YONKOU able to occupy the world?No, there's a balance that is formed by 4 Yonkous +allies, 3 Admirals +Marines and 7 Shishibukais +crew, If one of those three powers lose a member, the balance will disrupt and this will bring chaos to the area of the world this person was suppos to keep the balance.
-
No, there's a balance that is formed by 4 Yonkous +allies, 3 Admirals +Marines and 7 Shishibukais +crew, If one of those three powers lose a member, the balance will disrupt and this will bring chaos to the area of the world this person was suppos to keep the balance.
if the yonko get alines , can they roller all the world or the lord world and the marinas will stop them