cant they just keep producing their anime separately from manga? and make their own story going further?
Hunter x Hunter II
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cant they just keep producing their anime separately from manga? and make their own story going further?
Theoretically they could but why should they? There is a high chance that it would be very bad.
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well dunno could it be worse than current "ending" ? "we got an order to catch beyond-netero see you in 30 years gl bros"
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well dunno could it be worse than current "ending" ? "we got an order to catch beyond-netero see you in 30 years gl bros"
They would presumably stop on the chapter before that…. which was a reasonable open ending without too many hanging threads.
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well dunno could it be worse than current "ending" ? "we got an order to catch beyond-netero see you in 30 years gl bros"
Yes.
There is most certainly the possibility of having worse things than having nothing at all.
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It'd be great if they simply ended with "this anime is now on hiatus".
Also…
http://i.imgur.com/KTKjEae.jpg
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Oo I missed the AP awards for Togashi day :P
I skimmed back and found that it was on March 14th, 2013. Let's do it again this year ^_^
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No worries, for as long as Togashi continues keeping up the holiday spirit, so will everyone else here.
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Oh, but for the people who still have their togashi avatars from last year, it'll have to be togashi squared.
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How the hell do you Togashi Day Purple Hermit's avatar though?
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but I saw it and thought it was pretty cool
That is just glorious. Only Pitou looks slightly off, though, but Pitou isn't a very "Toriyama type character."
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@RobbyBevard:
How the hell do you Togashi Day Purple Hermit's avatar though?
Something along these lines?
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im just really sad that we will never be able to see what ging is all about :( is he strong is he not, i was so curious watching anime when bisky said hes top 5 nen users, could he take on hisoka blablal
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@RobbyBevard:
Trigun is a weird example to list since Trigun was like 70% filler. The first several episodes were made up from scratch, then only a handful were based on the manga… (I want to say 5-12?) and then it introduced the gung-ho-guns and then proceeded to go completely it's own direction. Largely because the manga wasn't very far yet, but... probably 19 episodes out of the 26 were completely made up.
Devil May Cry too.
That was an adaptation of a videogame seres which didn't have much to do with events of the individual games in said series.
It also sucked.
Thanks for the clarification guys.
im just really sad that we will never be able to see what ging is all about :( is he strong is he not, i was so curious watching anime when bisky said hes top 5 nen users, could he take on hisoka blablal
The fact that he was able to "capture" a fugitive of Razor's caliber says something about Ging's abilities as a fighter. Remember that scene in the GI arc where Goreinu (an Emitter so using a long ranged Nen enhanced object would be no problem for him) applies Shu on a ball then throws it at him but Razor just catches the Nen enhanced ball with one hand and what's more interesting is that he wasn't even using Ken or Gyo to protect his hand from catching a Nen enhanced object? That scene alone sends a message to the viewers Razor's something formidable, so Ging must be someone not to be taken lightly too.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I saw it and thought it was pretty cool
Lolz! I can't help but remember the reaction of a fan who compared the "anime time" of HxH and DB after this week's episode. 3 mins was equivalent to 1 episode in HxH while in DB 5 mins was equivalent to 10 eps (referring to Frieza destroying Planet Namek)
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im just really sad that we will never be able to see what ging is all about :( is he strong is he not, i was so curious watching anime when bisky said hes top 5 nen users, could he take on hisoka blablal
HXH has a lot of lore that we haven't seen explored. Some of me likes how we see enough of the universe of HXH to speculate about it, but enough is left vague and unexplored to keep an air of mystery to it
I really liked how we saw so much of the HXH world after the CA arc. We get a deep look into the actual hunter organization, saw tons of old faces that really needed to be checked up on, and we also were given another example of how fantastical and adventurous the world of HXH is with the information about the mythical Dark Continent
I thought the election arc was short, sweet, and to the point.
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I thought the election arc was short, sweet, and to the point.
And loaded with deus ex machina.
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Something along these lines?
http://s1.postimg.org/i2660h2m7/Untitled.pngGood enough. I'll keep this on file for when the holiday rolls by.
@RobbyBevard:And loaded with deus ex machina.
A character that can solve anything and only Killua can access her powers at no cost? Well I'll be.
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More like deus ex nanika... ok I'm terrible
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deus ex something
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@Purple:
A character that can solve anything and only Killua can access her powers at no cost? Well I'll be.
There's ALSO the fact that the villain of the election was doing it all for the lulz and after he had won went "just kidding, no actual stakes involved."
Kind of a copout on both story threads that arc.
(If you also want to count Gon meeting Ging out of basically nowhere I suppose you could… but I think the sudden unexpected awkwardness of it that pretty fun.)
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Pariston's subplot in the Election felt more like buildung his character to me. After all, he seems to eb one of the primary antagonists in Beyond Netero's group and I think he might be the "nicer version" of Hisoka in the upcoming arc - if
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Let's not forget the most deus exy anticlimaxes of all at the end of the arc, the one where Togashi flushes down years of charcter development and emotional conflict down the toilet in one chapter…you know the one.
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@RobbyBevard:
(If you also want to count Gon meeting Ging out of basically nowhere I suppose you could… but I think the sudden unexpected awkwardness of it that pretty fun.)
The problem with HunterxHunter is that the anticlimaxes that would definitely work in other series are melded with the anticlimaxes that clearly don't (anticlimaxes I like Gon meeting his dad, the end of York Shin, anticlimaxes I hate: all the Chimera ant ones, Kaito etc.) so it's hard to tell whether the antlimax was the point or Togashi was lazy and was also accidentally brilliant on that occasion.
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Pariston's subplot in the Election felt more like buildung his character to me. After all, he seems to eb one of the primary antagonists in Beyond Netero's group and I think he might be the "nicer version" of Hisoka in the upcoming arc - if
a) the arc is ever drawn and
b) there can be such attributes pinned to either Pariston or Hisoka.Having a villain's first act be a massive game to set them up as the type to do crazy shit is fine.
But then there needs to be follow up.
And there hasn't been.
On Reboot you can have Megabyte spend an episode crashing a child's birthday party and playing guitar… but that's offset by him being legitimately menacing in 30 other episodes, and actually flat out winning decisively more than a few times. One occasion being a silly lark is fine, to show an aspect of a character... but it has to be balanced among others.
So instead its a villain who has appeared once, got everyone worried and worked up, then just said "Actually the last arc was completely meaningless in every possible way."
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the idea of the election arc was that winning the election was not the big prize. it was the one with the best mind games. And gin admitted that pariston had one that one. They both didn`t wanted to be president. gin tried to make somebody else popular. Pariston just won and stepped down. But he played the cheadel very well. By making her act irrational he won.
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the idea of the election arc was that winning the election was not the big prize. it was the one with the best mind games. And gin admitted that pariston had one that one. They both didn`t wanted to be president. gin tried to make somebody else popular. Pariston just won and stepped down. But he played the cheadel very well. By making her act irrational he won.
Mind games, sure.
But you need payoff. Remember Ging explaining X-day and other things like the whole "try thinking about the interpretation of the hunter commandments"? Or the cow dude being like "Yo Pariston, you need to get your act together, hunters are disappearing like crazy while you've been VP". Or how Pariston's got all the temp hunters under lock and key and has a big influence on the organization as a whole?
The whole arc was hyped up to be that Pariston getting the seat was something of a threat, and it just goes down the toilet.
Might be better if we continued on the trail of Beyond Netero, but…
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also was there mentioned why exactly did he stop this project once and for all ? not enough fans, not enough money in it or what?
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As hinted by the title, the project technically isn't finished or cancelled… but at this point after nearly two years of no chapters the schedule's erratic enough that fans aren't really too hyped up about it.
That said it seems like he has a _lot_ of job security and pull in jump, so he may just be coasting at this point.
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well yeah "technically", but its like berserker not updated it god knows how long, probably never will be.
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He's sick, can't breathe well with that much money around him.
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well yeah "technically", but its like berserker not updated it god knows how long, probably never will be.
Except not at all.
Unlike Togashi, Miura actually does have releases, and right now he's working on a side project that's being released and discussed in the berserk thread.
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^Togashi is also working on his side project. DQ takes a lot of time and dedication, you know?
On a different note; after watching #116 just now I have to ask: why is Gon so mad about Kite's defeat/state again (since he doesn't know that he's dead yet)? I could understand such boundless rage if it happened to someone close to him- Killua for example- but reacting that way because of Kite? I might be missing something there, but it really strikes me as odd for Gon to overreact like that… and I don't buy it either.
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^Togashi is also working on his side project. DQ takes a lot of time and dedication, you know?
On a different note; after watching #116 just now I have to ask: why is Gon so mad about Kite's defeat/state again (since he doesn't know that he's dead yet)? I could understand such boundless rage if it happened to someone close to him- Killua for example- but reacting that way because of Kite? I might be missing something there, but it really strikes me as odd for Gon to overreact like that… and I don't buy it either.
Did the anime never get around to showing their first meeting, where Kite was the one that inspired Gon to become a Hunter and talked about his dad, and was generally a pretty big important catalyst in his life?
I know they skipped where it happened in the manga, and kept not mentioning him until the ant arc.
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@RobbyBevard:
Did the anime never get around to showing their first meeting, where Kite was the one that inspired Gon to become a Hunter and talked about his dad, and was generally a pretty big important catalyst in his life?
I know they skipped where it happened in the manga, and kept not mentioning him until the ant arc.
It's been a while since I watched that particular episode, but they did show it in the anime. My problem is that it doesn't seem like they spent a lot of time together. Or at least enough time to warrant such an emotional reaction. Yeah, he saved Gon back then and, as you say, inspired Gon to become a Hunter, but did they ever meet again after that? Did they go through any hardships together? Experienced anything that established a deep connection? It feels so damn shallow to me and really over-the-top. Seems to be just me though…
Thanks for taking the time to answer, Robby.
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On a different note; after watching #116 just now I have to ask: why is Gon so mad about Kite's defeat/state again (since he doesn't know that he's dead yet)? I could understand such boundless rage if it happened to someone close to him- Killua for example- but reacting that way because of Kite? I might be missing something there, but it really strikes me as odd for Gon to overreact like that… and I don't buy it either.
The way I see it, Kite is the closest thing to Gin that Gon ever came close to and I think he views him in the same light as a father figure. He's someone that had the potential to give Gon something he'd lacked all his life and Gon knows this and feels that loss. Plus there is that underlying sense of guilt that he's the one who most probably cost kite in that fight and part of that rage is towards himself but he's aiming it at Pitou. I'm sure there are many more reasons to it.
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@Purple:
Mind games, sure.
But you need payoff. Remember Ging explaining X-day and other things like the whole "try thinking about the interpretation of the hunter commandments"? Or the cow dude being like "Yo Pariston, you need to get your act together, hunters are disappearing like crazy while you've been VP". Or how Pariston's got all the temp hunters under lock and key and has a big influence on the organization as a whole?
The whole arc was hyped up to be that Pariston getting the seat was something of a threat, and it just goes down the toilet.
Might be better if we continued on the trail of Beyond Netero, but…
Guess it depends on your pov, Given what we knew about his personality pretty much right off the bat, thought he wouldn't be so much the villain as much as more like the catalyst to a villain perhaps; and then there's him being VC, if he was as good as all of them seemed to think he was, he basically chose to only be VC since he knew whoever was Chairman would be fun to play with/ against. It made sense he would want to play with/ against another or the next as well if they could be deemed 'worthy'. Also in a way it seems the election was a big distraction from his other venture that was sure to pay off in a big way: The 500 or 500(0), (always forget which), new possibly greatly improved chimera ants he slipped thru somewhat much further under he radar than they should have been, and they were seemingly made into like almost guaranteed hunters, dwarfing the hunters actual numbers even pre -Hisoka/ Allumi killing spree…
...But guess I still understand down the toilet.
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@LUFFYSMC:
Guess it depends on your pov, Given what we knew about his personality pretty much right off the bat, thought he wouldn't be so much the villain as much as more like the catalyst to a villain perhaps; and then there's him being VC, if he was as good as all of them seemed to think he was, he basically chose to only be VC since he knew whoever was Chairman would be fun to play with/ against. It made sense he would want to play with/ against another or the next as well if they could be deemed 'worthy'. Also in a way it seems the election was a big distraction from his other venture that was sure to pay off in a big way: The 500 or 500(0), (always forget which), new possibly greatly improved chimera ants he slipped thru somewhat much further under he radar than they should have been, and they were seemingly made into like almost guaranteed hunters, dwarfing the hunters actual numbers even pre -Hisoka/ Allumi killing spree…
...But guess I still understand down the toilet.
Yeah, except that his wanting to play with the chairman was only mentioned after he quit the election. Netero let him be VC because he likes to deal with trouble, and Pariston said after giving up the seat that he only accepted the VC seat because he wanted to be a nuisance. Anyway, yeah 5000 cocoons that Ging speculated would be unveiled around the next exam date for Pariston to "play" with them. The whole X-Day chapter was this really conspiracy laden chapter with Ging explaining the consequences of Pariston playing around until X-Day.
Basically Pariston's whole character developed so far was that he was a huge troll trying to mess with everyone, but with the sinister backings of things like the cocoons that he really needs to not be in the chairman's seat.
And then poof, he gives up his seat and suddenly whatever Ging was explaining really wasn't Pariston's whole deal with X-Day at all. There never really was a threat to his becoming chairman or running the election to the ground for days on end.
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I find Madhouse's choice to omit Gon's meeting with Kite to be rather interesting, because most of the fans from the original series saw Kite through Gon's perspective - how important Kite was to him, and how influential he was on his ultimate destiny. While, fans who started with 2011 see things from Killua's POV: they can't understand why Gon would feel so passionate about Kite, even if they know the story of how he's impacted him. Given that, newer audiences are resonating more strongly with Killua's marginalization than with Gon's sense of loss. It's a different form of characterization all from omitting one important scene at the start of the story.
Considering how much Madhouse LOVES Killua, I'm curious if this development was intended during the planning stages for the anime three years ago.
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I think the reason why Madhouse didn't include Kite in the beginning is because they weren't sure if they'll reach the Chimera Ant arc or not. They might have felt like it would be a waste of time and effort to introduce an important character in the series only to discover they won't be able to reach the arc where he plays an important role. It was more of playing it safe, I guess, but that did affect the audience's perspective of him.
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It's been a while since I watched that particular episode, but they did show it in the anime. My problem is that it doesn't seem like they spent a lot of time together. Or at least enough time to warrant such an emotional reaction. Yeah, he saved Gon back then and, as you say, inspired Gon to become a Hunter, but did they ever meet again after that? Did they go through any hardships together? Experienced anything that established a deep connection? It feels so damn shallow to me and really over-the-top. Seems to be just me though…
Thanks for taking the time to answer, Robby.
You are talking about a boy who is sets out and is obsessed about finding a father who abandoned him for his own interests, the Kite thing is hardly surprising.
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I agree with the recent discussion that Killua's brother's ability veered too much into "boy, how perfectly convenient" territory
I love how Nen is a very paper/rock/scissor approach to fights and abilities. I feel rules for powers are generally written well. Alluka's ability (is it Alluka?) IMO wasn't bad at all and clearly had penalties, however it was super convenient and could have benefited from clearer rules and restrictions
I did NOT like the step away from Alluka's original design. I really liked the original design we saw of him in the baggy clothes facing away from the camera in the family portrait.
I have no problem with male characters who have a feminine look to them (Naruto's Haku for example). But the change in appearance Alluka had is a hiccup in seemless continuity IMO, and that is what irks me about the character redesign
Killua's family gives me such an Addams Family vibe. I love them
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About how the election arc ended.
! I think that arc would have been so much better if instead of Killua having free wishes, things had gone Illumi's way, and x amount of people had died, which would lead to someone investigating how thousands of people suddenly died.
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I did NOT like the step away from Alluka's original design. I really liked the original design we saw of him in the baggy clothes facing away from the camera in the family portrait.
I have no problem with male characters who have a feminine look to them (Naruto's Haku for example). But the change in appearance Alluka had is a hiccup in seemless continuity IMO, and that is what irks me about the character redesign
siiighhh
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I was super hype by the number of hoops you had to jump through to activate Nanika. I remember being super excited with my friend about it, particularly because I jumped into HxH around the end of the chimera arc and had no idea how Nen worked.
And then turns out Killua gets a free pass lol
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I really want an all Kurapika and Leorio mob themed arc.
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Yeah Killua getting a free pass with Alluka has to be my biggest gripe with the election arc. It just feels really cheap and I hope there's at least some repercussions that emerge later on for it. Other than that I really loved the election arc.
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Yeah Killua getting a free pass with Alluka has to be my biggest gripe with the election arc. It just feels really cheap and I hope there's at least some repercussions that emerge later on for it. Other than that I really loved the election arc.
The repercution is supposed to be that he revealed his hand, that Illumi now wants to control him to control Aluka and Nanika. Having someone like him obsesed about controlling me would be a dire consequence I think.
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The repercution is supposed to be that he revealed his hand, that Illumi now wants to control him to control Aluka and Nanika. Having someone like him obsesed about controlling me would be a dire consequence I think.
Yeah it would be but when Killua can literally and actually wishes him away, he can pretty much work by that standard if he really needed to.
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@Purple:
Yeah it would be but when Killua can literally and actually wishes him away, he can pretty much work by that standard if he really needed to.
Illumi is not a naruto character, next time he'll plan it ahead so he can close in Kilua faster than Nanika can do something.
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next time ? there will be no next time. (yes thats eminem lyrics :D)
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