Not sure if someone already mentioned this, but could Sugar's ability only work when someone "demands" something?
Cavendish asked to be freed from the sticky stuff and she said something like "alright then let's make a deal", and turned Cavendish into a toy instantly.
So Cavendish is freed from the goo like he asked, but in return he has to serve Donquixote family as a Toy until he dies.
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@A:
is anything in this series real?
no I Also dont know why people consider her weak either shes not as strong as luffy, naturally but neither is Sanji…. She's skilled in a specific style of fighting... in her case its sonic speed "kenpo" (real kenpo) shes not meant to be a powerhouse shes meant to be a counter fighter... why make fun of her for it? and why would her winning something with what is the very definition of skill be a bad thing? do you know how hard it is to read movement and counter based on it in calculated measures? and none the less doing it with your back against a cliff i had training like that (wasnt a cliff) and i fell off all the times i tried.
It just seems backwards. Ive never considered her weak…. you want weak, look at Usopp and buggy but this woman is a badass. I think she deserves more respect around here.
It's not that she's weak, it's that she's completely out of place in this round, since others are way stronger than her. Barto, she could maybe beat, since we didn't actually see how he fights. Also, both of them had most of their opponents in their rounds cleared up by someone else, so there's that.
I can't figure out what her purpose in this round is.
@A:
no I Also dont know why people consider her weak either shes not as strong as luffy, naturally but neither is Sanji…. She's skilled in a specific style of fighting... in her case its sonic speed "kenpo" (real kenpo) shes not meant to be a powerhouse shes meant to be a counter fighter... why make fun of her for it? and why would her winning something with what is the very definition of skill be a bad thing? do you know how hard it is to read movement and counter based on it in calculated measures? and none the less doing it with your back against a cliff i had training like that (wasnt a cliff) and i fell off all the times i tried.
It just seems backwards. Ive never considered her weak…. you want weak, look at Usopp and buggy but this woman is a badass. I think she deserves more respect around here.
Good post, well said.
But, one thing. Zoro and Sanji are always roughly shown to have the same amount of strength.
Rebeca will cut those chains by hitting the same spot so many times, mark my word. Jesus is getting pissed and Diamante will have to show what he got If he wants to protect the fruit.
Vivi for nakama!
BTW
Does anyone want a detailed explanation of Sugar's DF as well… I somehow still don't get the link with being a toy and the contract stuff…
Then why can the Lightning Soldier break the contract? Or was he even contracted in the first place?
Frankly, I'm not too bothered by how Sugar's power works.
-Its called Hobby Hobby fruit but turns people into toys?
Meh, I'm not bothered by that since in the old days a toy-maker was a type of hobby/skill/profession.
-Why do people forget those turned into toys?
-What connection does this contract have to toys?
I see it do more than 'just turn people into toys'. I can imagine the power makes the victim act as a toy and for people to treat the victim as a toy.
First off, they are toys.
How often does children 'forget' a toy they've put aside for another activity? The toy is cast aside and not given a second thought for the moment when the kid's attention is diverted. The people forgetting Sugar's victims fit in there.
Toys are controlled by the person playing with them, no 'will or thought' beyond what 'role' the user gives them.
So the contract is the role given to the victim. There, it fits within the Hobby Hobby no Mi.
Why is Lightening Soldier free? I can imagine 3 2 possiblites
1- He was among the first ones transformed - turned during or before the fall of King Riku and Doffy's grab of power at Dressrosa. Therefore, he had different orders than the current ones Sugar is giving. Maybe something like "don't interfere with Doffy controlling King Riku"
2- The strength of the contract fades over time - …. nope scratch that its too impossible due to that others turned 10 yrs ago would also be free. We've seen them able to say their name and talk - to the Soldier not another human, (franky just overheard them talk) but none of them are acting like the Soldier.
3- Most likely= The Lightening Soldier has a very strong will and was able to break free.
@A:
you want weak, look at Usopp and buggy but this woman is a badass. I think she deserves more respect around here.
Are you calling Usopp a weakling?
Mnehh, the problem with Becca is not having "haters" but having too much tards, a simple joke about that weakling character becomes a global butthurt.
The gag will be they made the dosage for a dwarf sized person, and not a regular human, so the grape won't be effective at all.
The gag will be they made the dosage for a dwarf sized person, and not a regular human, so the grape won't be effective at all.
Good point, but also factor that Sugar is small herself. Obviously not as small as a dwarf but worth mentioning
@A:
Ill get both comments here
is anything in this series real?
no I Also dont know why people consider her weak either shes not as strong as luffy, naturally but neither is Sanji…. She's skilled in a specific style of fighting... in her case its sonic speed "kenpo" (real kenpo) shes not meant to be a powerhouse shes meant to be a counter fighter... why make fun of her for it? and why would her winning something with what is the very definition of skill be a bad thing? do you know how hard it is to read movement and counter based on it in calculated measures? and none the less doing it with your back against a cliff i had training like that (wasnt a cliff) and i fell off all the times i tried.
It just seems backwards. Ive never considered her weak…. you want weak, look at Usopp and buggy but this woman is a badass. I think she deserves more respect around here.
You mean the definition of badly written plot armor, than yes. There was no reason for him to stop attacking after his attempt and sleep other than to make a silly way of her winning. I still seriously doubt she could even beat half the named characters left, there's only so much you can do standing at the edge of a ring waiting for a counter throw.
The main reason people don't exactly seem to be fans of her is that she is in a gladiator tournament where people fight one another and she doesn't want to hit anybody. I will say this chapter made me like her a little bit. Even though it was pathetic for her to stand behind Barto, it was a smart and hilarious move.
only problem i have with the "hakuba will avoid the contract and save the day" theory is…toys don't sleep.
we don't know if they can't,but they never sleep,since durng the morning they stay with people,and at night they work for dofla.
Sugar's power is getting pretty complicated.
But it sure is awesome. I mean, just look at it:
-You stay young forever (In remember in an other Manga I've seen people destroy whole planets for something like this)
-You can turn anyone into toys
-When people are turned into toys, they can no longer talk or control themselves
-Every toy obeys you
-Nobody will ever know if you turned someone into a toy, since everyone will instantly lose any memory of that person
Just never go unconscious and you're good to go with this DF?
You guys think that Sugar is part of Doflo's family because she has some sort of convoluted mindset and believes that turning as many people into toys as possible will result in less harm to humans and that is why she does it? Something to think about over two week break…
Sure he is funny as always BUT Oda after hyping up Cavendish lately left Barto somehow behind while 2 of them were developed at same time to some point. Both winners of their block and all but now Barto is pushed back a bit so to say when it comes to badassnessss. So lets both hope for him to show off some of skills that made it possible for him to beat rookie Vice Admiral at start of this arc:ninja:
Cavendish lost his block to Rebecca. And he didn't use his proper power to blitz his opponents.Barto hasn't been attacked yet so lets wait.Rebecca got throw away by a fish and Diamente go his sword broken. Those two had a worst showing than Barto who did nothing.But seriously, did the fish dodge the first surge elbow or not?
do you think Dimante's gonna manipulate the floor of the stadium??
or is that to much like Pica's ability? or is Pica's ability only to absorb rocks… so confused
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Cavendish lost his block to Rebecca. And he didn't use his proper power to blitz his opponents.Barto hasn't been attacked yet so lets wait.Rebecca got throw away by a fish and Diamente go his sword broken. Those two had a worst showing than Barto who did nothing.But seriously, did the fish dodge the first surge elbow or not?
I was wondering that too, because if he did hit that fighting fish, why wasn't it sent flying to the stand?
I was wondering that too, because if he did hit that fighting fish, why wasn't it sent flying to the stand?
Because fishes don't fly.
I guess the attack only partly hit the fish thus shooting it further sidewards.
@Uncanny:
maybe Aokiji is 1 of that 10 Titan Captains. (of course it's going to be weird if you'll call them 9 titam captains and 1 admiral - for those who will say that Aokji is not a Captain)
Smoker would have mentioned it. We are talking the 10 giants captain of a Yonko. The super star of this generation.
Lol, Rebecca didn't win this block, Oda used a plot twist to make her get to the final that's kind of different.
The fish is too fast for her.
In reality she tried to get to the side and attack the chains, but she miscalculated and got hit by the horn of the FightingFish. Now, it was because she was slower or because he was to big or because of both? We don't know, better wait and see what happens next.
In reality she tried to get to the side and attack the chains, but she miscalculated and got hit by the horn of the FightingFish. Now, it was because she was slower or because he was to big or because of both? We don't know, better wait and see what happens next.
She actually hit the chain, you can read the sound effect!
The strategy probably won't work just yet, so I guess when Sugar conters the dwarves she'll get her introduction box. Would be weird otherwise since every other member of the Doflamingo Family (sans Pica, who hasn't even spoken a word yet) did get one all the previous chapters.
I imagine that at that time they didn't think of securing the operation. As soon as Soldier got transformed into toy he got out of there using his jet walk move. Since then Trebol stick the subject before he gets transform.
I thought of that but that will mean that Doflamingo didn't have the whole plan thought out yet, but it makes sense since he went after his family afterwards.
So why does everyone forget about you when you turn into a toy? Is it just a side effect of the fruit?
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If someone seriously claimed that Whitebeard was running a vibrator business as his second job you'd ignore him as a troll.
I think Koala went to the Colosseum so that she could jump into the pipe in the 'medical room' leading to the scrap heap
We experimented on 50 tontatta, 100% lost consciousness, and nearly 18 died haha
@krule274:
So why does everyone forget about you when you turn into a toy? Is it just a side effect of the fruit?
We gave explanation to this question before, the last one was posted by Katzztar.
Not sure if someone already mentioned this, but could Sugar's ability only work when someone "demands" something?
Cavendish asked to be freed from the sticky stuff and she said something like "alright then let's make a deal", and turned Cavendish into a toy instantly.
So Cavendish is freed from the goo like he asked, but in return he has to serve Donquixote family as a Toy until he dies.
didn't think of that but it really makes sense , good notice .. now we can assume that toy soldier and other free toys didn't make the deal
coz they didn't ask for anything maybe they knew how her ability works
@A:
Why does everybody hate Rebecca? she's strong-willed and has a goal….. personally she's one of my fav chars introduced in this arc. yet all i see are people complaining about her.... i dont get it... where did her hate-dom come from?
that aside, well paced chapter, and a DICK of a cliffhanger for a week break.... seriously... that made me upset. i can live without naruto or bleach... but one piece is my cocaine. ahh well
100/10
She's very bland in terms of character.
Little personality combined with a motivation that revolves around another person.
You mean the definition of badly written plot armor, than yes. There was no reason for him to stop attacking after his attempt and sleep other than to make a silly way of her winning. I still seriously doubt she could even beat half the named characters left, there's only so much you can do standing at the edge of a ring waiting for a counter throw.
The main reason people don't exactly seem to be fans of her is that she is in a gladiator tournament where people fight one another and she doesn't want to hit anybody. I will say this chapter made me like her a little bit. Even though it was pathetic for her to stand behind Barto, it was a smart and hilarious move.
didn't think of that but it really makes sense , good notice .. now we can assume that toy soldier and other free toys didn't make the deal
coz they didn't ask for anything maybe they knew how her ability works
Whoa, I didn't think of Toy Soldier but yeah definitely!
All the other contestants probably demanded to be freed and yeah they got what they want. Kind of.
Smoker would have mentioned it. We are talking the 10 giants captain of a Yonko. The super star of this generation.
Unless he doesn't like talking about it.
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Lol, Rebecca didn't win this block, Oda used a plot twist to make her get to the final that's kind of different.
People keep saying this. What about this is inconsistent with the rest of the story. We've seen people move this fast before and not have any control over it.
how do you know that the whole OP story is still another halfway to end?
We gave explanation to this question before, the last one was posted by Katzztar.
Thank you.
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In reality she tried to get to the side and attack the chains, but she miscalculated and got hit by the horn of the FightingFish. Now, it was because she was slower or because he was to big or because of both? We don't know, better wait and see what happens next.
i think she tried to grab the chain to ride the fish speed/attack but he was too strong and she was unable to do so
she seems totally fine in the next scene
Woooooohh, Nice Chapter!!
I'm not entirely sure how much Pica can really do with that Stone Fruit of his.
Stone shouldnt be that hard to Cut/Break, Zoro has cut it before, and Luffy should be able to break it,
but i'll wait and see, Pica is an Elite Officer after all.
The Colloseum fight was pretty epic too. I'm really a fan of Barts skill with his Barrier Fruit.
Rebecca probably had to hide behind it to avoid taking damage from burgess Elbow Blast.
Now, clearly Burgess and Sabo are the dominating Forces in this one.
Their Clash was really cool, call me Sabo-Fanboy, but Burgess was definitely surprised by Sabo's Counterattack.
Im eager to see, how destroying his armor affects Burgess ability, can he still blow Waves with his Elbow?
Or did he really have some kind of impact Mechanics in that Elbow shield?
Dragon Claw, was my favourite tho, im hooked on the thought Sabo is a mythical Zoan Dragon. Luffy would go nuts, if he saw that. Perfect plot synergy.
Maybe Sabo was a Spy in the WG (which could relate to Vegapunk trying to create a Dragon Fruit) or Kaido.
Whichever, it could explain why he couldn't be there when Ace died, or do anything to contact Luffy or w/e.
for a second i thought sabo was gonna have a dragon zoan…
Nothings proven yet :) Keep hoping
My guess is that Leo will get to close to the Sticky trebol, going unnoticed tho.
Robin might get the Tatabasco "Grape" back with her ability, and as many already suggested Ussop will go full hero mode and shove it in Sugars throat with a Pro Snipe.
Break, im sad.
@Harry:
Why would Sabo have a mythical Zoan Dragon and not Dragon himself… its not perfect plot synergy at all
Why can't Sabo have it? I'm not saying I want him to, but just because his name's Dragon he has to have a dragon zoan? That makes no sense.
Sugar power sure is way too powerful. a simple touche and you not only make him become a toy but can force him to do what you want…
Not only that, but she removes the victim's existence from all memories and has ETERNAL YOUTH. Blackbeard should definitely go for her fruit.
@Harry:
He's more likely to have it than Sabo. I highly doubt that Sabo has that devil fruit, let alone a devil fruit but we will see.
His name is Monkey D. Dragon, thats it. Sabo used a Technique Called Dragon Claw, it might be a hint to a zoan, it might be just another fighting style.
Dragon has probably got a Wind Fruit or something, atleast that was what it looked like in Logue Town in the anime
@Bart:
His name is Monkey D. Dragon, thats it. Sabo used a Technique Called Dragon Claw, it might be a hint to a zoan, it might be just another fighting style.
Dragon has probably got a Wind Fruit or something, atleast that was what it looked like in Logue Town in the anime
Believing anything in there was your biggest mistake.
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@Bart:
His name is Monkey D. Dragon, thats it. Sabo used a Technique Called Dragon Claw, it might be a hint to a zoan, it might be just another fighting style.
Dragon has probably got a Wind Fruit or something, atleast that was what it looked like in Logue Town in the anime
Honestly, the fact that Sabo possessing any DF right now would break my heart. Because I'm rooting for him to eat the mera mera no mi and do some Flame Dragon Techs, which pretty much is like Oda giving the finger to Mashima.
Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!
Honestly, the fact that Sabo possessing any DF right now would break my heart. Because I'm rooting for him to eat the mera mera no mi and do some Flame Dragon Techs, which pretty much is like Oda giving the finger to Mashima.
wait so now anytime fire and dragon are mixed it has to do something with making references to fairy tail?
Don't like dragons usually go along with fire? and aren't they one of the most famous mythical beasts, which means they'd be prevelent in tons of mangas, I don't think it has anything to do with Fairy Tail at all
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@krule274:
Believing anything in there was your biggest mistake.
That's the only arc that I would take something from the anime in order to prove a point. Logue Town
wait so now anytime fire and dragon are mixed it has to do something with making references to fairy tail?
Don't like dragons usually go along with fire? and aren't they one of the most famous mythical beasts, which means they'd be prevelent in tons of mangas, I don't think it has anything to do with Fairy Tail at all
I know, but Mashima would react (probably). Especially, as there is already a bad blood between them.
EDIT: Apparently, I believe too much of what I read and stumble on this on MS. So, yeah, bad blood between Mashima and Oda is not true. They're most probably in good terms.
Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!
wait so now anytime fire and dragon are mixed it has to do something with making references to fairy tail?
Don't like dragons usually go along with fire? and aren't they one of the most famous mythical beasts, which means they'd be prevelent in tons of mangas, I don't think it has anything to do with Fairy Tail at all
Well 50% (I believe it was 70%) of the manga fan base went crazy after learning that Oda was going to have a tournament and was naming Luffy - Lucy.
I know, but Mashima would react (probably). Especially, as there is already a bad blood between them.
I didn't know they had bad blood? what happened?
@Shadowgreed:
Well 50% (I believe it was 70%) of the manga fan base went crazy after learning that Oda was going to have a tournament and was naming Luffy - Lucy.
Lol please tell me this isn't the bad blood? people seriously think any of that's related?
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