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If only Bentham's fighting style was not all about kicking…
We have two swordsman's on the crew that's not a problem.
The only problem is taking him out of Impel Down.
If there is a more unofficial strawhat, it's him.
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If only Bentham's fighting style was not all about kicking…
We have two swordsman's on the crew that's not a problem.
The only problem is taking him out of Impel Down.
If there is a more unofficial strawhat, it's him.
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If only Bentham's fighting style was not all about kicking…
Aside from still being in Impel Down last time we saw him, he shares VAs with Franky… and that was Oda's choice.
While I wouldn't point to the anime for proof of pretty much anything else, that's a unique exception since Oda had him in mind specifically, and that alone pretty much puts Mr. 2 out of the running permanently.
Honestly, aside from that (And that Robin is also a former Baroque Agent) there's really nothing against him at all, and plenty for. Ah well.
Vivi... there was a fraction of a chance she'd take a level in badass over the timeskip and somehow know to meet up with them at Sabondy, but its pretty clear her Princess duties are about to become Queen duties, so no way in hell she abandons her place to travel the duration of the story. Plus, she throws off the numbering because of Carue anyway.
HOWEVER. Since she (and Carue) are consistently counted as official Strawhats and shown in the playing with animals covers for years now (Oda wants us to remember them clearly) it IS possible that Jinbe joins in the next arc or two, and she, (the last) joins up after the Reverie happens... since that's clearly going to go badly in some way. But obviously in that case, she wouldn't be the "constantly travelling with" crewmate people are wanting for the last slot and it would be very much an end-game addition... but a fair one.
Carue could be the equivilent for Stronger...
The fact that he sacrificed himself to help Luffy and became the new leader of the Newkama Land at level 5.5 both speak against him, though.
The first is weird because it's the ultimate act of friendship and something Luffy will forever owe him for, which could really be considered to be something that speaks for him if anything else, but I have a hard time believing he could join as a full-time subordinate of Luffy's when their relationship is pretty different from what the rest of the crew has with Luffy. They're equals and best friends, not captain and a crewmate.
And him leading a bunch of people Iva-style pretty much renders him an ally automatically. He's not just going to leave the new Newkamas behind unless something huge happens.
I'm actually curious about if Oda will make it obvious when the final crew member joins (as in show that NO ONE else is joining)
@Jewelery:
I'm actually curious about if Oda will make it obvious when the final crew member joins (as in show that NO ONE else is joining)
He might have the chapter title be "The Last Person" but he wouldn't make a huge definitive deal about it beyond that probably, not from Luffy's mouth anyway.
And given that there's 10-15 years to go, he might all the same still leave himself open to one more if he suddenly has a really crazy amazing character idea along the way or realize the story needs something specific (like he probably did with Robin), or at the very least extended travel-alongs like Vivi or Kinemon. Though given how far in advance he had planned Brook and how he's handling Jinbe… he's being pretty methodical at this point.
@The:
Actually, I think the "Magus factor" is partially responsible for the people who champion Smoker as crewmate material…as well as the astoundingly persistent "irredeemable psychopath Du Jour will join" movement.
Of course Robin might have some of the blame too, since she showed that "Absolutely anyone can join, even former enemies!!!"
Robin should be the example, not an example.
One day without checking this thread and I don't have any clue, what you are talking about? LOL
You mean Caribou isn't logia?:ninja:
NVM then, forgot that Luffy sent him flying.
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Smoker is nothing like Sengoku lol.
Smoker and Garp are very alike in personality and their relationship to Roger/Luffy.
Sengoku shares pretty much nothing with Smoker apart them both being marines.
How do you even know what Garp and Roger relationship is? From what I can see Roger and Garp was really good close friends but one became a pirate and the other a marine just like Luffy/Coby. I don't see Luffy having that close enough relationship or trust to have Smoker take care of his unborn child but Im 100% sure he will ask Coby to do such thing.(just saying)
And again, Coby's dream is to become stronger an Admiral so he could capture Luffy and we haven't seen anything much from Coby to know what his personality is. Coby is now a Captain meaning he should be in-charge of a marine ship now so sooner or later we will see if he will start pursuing Luffy.
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I think kuzan will be the last crew mate to join, once Luffy surpasses him in strength. In film Z, he stated that he didn't know anymore if marines were good and pirates were evil. He also stated that he doesn't know what to do with his life any more. He technically isn't an enemy of the straw hats any more, hell in film Z he was basically an ally.
We already have an ex warlord joining the crew, why not an ex admiral?
From what we understanding it seems like Kuzan will be joining Blackbeard crew or allying with him.
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I don't care if parallels are stupid. The parallels are there even if you choose to deny it. That doesn't mean they are the same people.
The parallels are there but the parallels are there with Coby aswell. Only difference being Coby is real good friend with Luffy and he didn't have the power or rank to pursue after a pirates by himself like Smoker in the beginning.
How do you even know what Garp and Roger relationship is? From what I can see Roger and Garp was really good close friends but one became a pirate and the other a marine just like Luffy/Coby. I don't see Luffy having that close enough relationship or trust to have Smoker take care of his unborn child but Im 100% sure he will ask Coby to do such thing.(just saying)
And again, Coby's dream is to become stronger an Admiral so he could capture Luffy and we haven't seen anything much from Coby to know what his personality is. Coby is now a Captain meaning he should be in-charge of a marine ship now so sooner or later we will see if he will start pursuing Luffy.
It was made pretty clear that Roger and Garp started as antagonists to each other, but over time gained a mutual respect for each other. Garp was a name almost synonymous with Roger's, as the man who cornered the pirate king a number of times.
So yes, Luffy and Smoker's relationship loosely mirrors this.
Coby on the other hand, has never been an antagonist to Luffy, and likely will never be able to really bring himself to be. He wants to be an admiral to stop your stereotypical pirates, not someone like Luffy, the person who inspired him to follow his dream in the first place.
Luffy's connection with Coby is like nothing we've ever heard of in regards to Roger. Just because Smoker kind of takes after Garp doesn't mean Coby also has to have a parallel.
I know, Coby's ideal basically wouldn't exist without Luffy, but come on. Smoker chases him everywhere.
Coby couldn't chase Luffy because Coby doesn't have the rank to do so. He had to beg Garp to take him to see Luffy.
@RobbyBevard:
He might have the chapter title be "The Last Person" but he wouldn't make a huge definitive deal about it beyond that probably, not from Luffy's mouth anyway.
And given that there's 10-15 years to go, he might all the same still leave himself open to one more if he suddenly has a really crazy amazing character idea along the way or realize the story needs something specific (like he probably did with Robin), or at the very least extended travel-alongs like Vivi or Kinemon. Though given how far in advance he had planned Brook and how he's handling Jinbe… he's being pretty methodical at this point.
For all we know this is the last arc :ninja:
It was made pretty clear that Roger and Garp started as antagonists to each other, but over time gained a mutual respect for each other. Garp was a name almost synonymous with Roger's, as the man who cornered the pirate king a number of times.
So yes, Luffy and Smoker's relationship loosely mirrors this.
Coby on the other hand, has never been an antagonist to Luffy, and likely will never be able to really bring himself to be. He wants to be an admiral to stop your stereotypical pirates, not someone like Luffy, the person who inspired him to follow his dream in the first place.
Luffy's connection with Coby is like nothing we've ever heard of in regards to Roger. Just because Smoker kind of takes after Garp doesn't mean Coby also has to have a parallel.
It seems like you guys are just pushing Coby aside and ignoring the obvious, here Oda through Zoro mouth
! "Great enemy", Oda don't let words like this be for nothing.(you guys can argue is just another blah blah words).
I never said Smoker and Luffy relationship doesn't mirror Rogger/Garp but that the relationship is falling off more and more, in due time when Oda has developed Coby enough he will push him in as the real deal.
Oda doesn't like things to be that obvious so he will add things to confuse, twist and make the readers unsure and that's what he is doing with Coby and Smoker. You can turn a blind eye and stick to your -Smoker/Luffy mirrors Roger/Garp- more than any.
Oda mirrors Smoker/Garp as the two marines who will do anything to capture the future pirate king and not give a damn about ranks but at the sametime, Oda mirrors Coby/Garp as the two marines with the same fighting style(punching, no DF, just fist) and dreams of fighting the future pirate king. Garp was known as the devil to the pirates and I'm sure soon enough pirates will start fearing Coby much more. And don't forget to add Garp having a swordsman bodyguard/friend which Tashigi is to Smoker and Helmeppo to Coby.
In the end, Smoker is just a replacement Oda is using to fill in a role Coby will take over from when he's fully developed as a marine with rank.
Coby couldn't chase Luffy because Coby doesn't have the rank to do so. He had to beg Garp to take him to see Luffy.
So you really think Coby would follow around Luffy if he had the chance? I know he respects the guy, and he probably wants Luffy to acknowledge him in some way, but I just don't see Coby's marine career being centered around Luffy the way Smoker's might.
Coby and Luffy are friends. Coby will fight Luffy if he's right in front of him and he's ordered to, like in the war, but he's not going to doggedly pursue him obsesivley.
Coby isn't going to be admiral level strength till the epilogue. At best he's going to be Captain level when we see him again (which is the rank Tashigi is at.) No ammount of training, natural mantra ability, or hax devil fruit, is going to significantly catch him up in 2 years to our leads who were already miles ahead of him and trained their butts off.
Coby just isn't going to be some crazy determined mortal persistant enemy of Luffy's, and even if he was, he wouldn't be a credible threat. He'll have growth, to be sure, but he won't be dangerous, not to Luffy.
In the end, Smoker is just a replacement Oda is using to fill in a role Coby will take over from when he's fully developed as a marine with rank.
But who's gonna believe that?
Coby in term of strength lost to Luffy at the start of the series.
After years training under Garp, it only took one move from Luffy to take Coby down in W7 and Marine Arc.
Right now Coby can start chasing Luffy only if the marine have the Dragon Ball's Hyperbolic Time Chamber to get near Luffy's 2 years training.
I think Coby's promise to Luffy can be happen at the EoS, when there's no Akainu around. It will be difficult for Coby, who follow Garp's teaching and the insubordinate marine Akainu almost kill, to get Admiral position. Not when Akainu in charge.
Coby has the highest growth rate in the series.He literally went from being a shirt pudgy kid with not strength into a tall muscled fighter with Soru, Coby will definitely be admiral level before the epilogue. I mean he already promised to fight Luffy on equal terms in Water 7. Dude probably has better haki then both Zoro and Sanji.
Coby is a captain rank right now, and it's only a few days after the time skip. He could easily rise a couple of ranks up to Rear Admiral by the time we see him next, and then it's only Vice Admiral and full on admiral after that.
Admiral Sangoraion, (Coral/pink lion)anyone?
Manshelly the dwarf princess is the only real candidate this arc, as I've finally given up on Momo because of his lack of a representative color. (pink being already covered by Chopper)
But who's gonna believe that?
Coby in term of strength lost to Luffy at the start of the series.
After years training under Garp, it only took one move from Luffy to take Coby down in W7 and Marine Arc.
Right now Coby can start chasing Luffy only if the marine have the Dragon Ball's Hyperbolic Time Chamber to get near Luffy's 2 years training.
I think Coby's promise to Luffy can be happen at the EoS, when there's no Akainu around. It will be difficult for Coby, who follow Garp's teaching and the insubordinate marine Akainu almost kill, to get Admiral position. Not when Akainu in charge.
More like after a few days or weeks
Ohhh the legendary Coby frowth rare is so big that he will be admiral level before the epilogue… God Robby already said everythign and I fully agree... And before the Coby fans will go ape shit... Yeah his growth was amazing but he still is absolutely fodder shit to Luffy and Co... You are talking that Luffy and Co haven't grown on a high level as well, even more after the 2 years timeskip.
The last time I checked... Amazing growth Coby got his faced punched in by Luffy, who already was worn out at the war.
If you think, that Coby somehow is able to close the gap, while Luffy trained his ass off with a legend as well after losing his beloved brother and crew... And in addition now is fighting with top NW pirates and soon Yonkous... You are just fooling yourself.
As Robby said... Epilogue Coby for sure will be an admiral... But not at the time Luffy has his final battles with Akainu and BB to become pirate king.
More like after a few days or weeks
The funny thing is in W7, Coby showed that he have learned Soru while Luffy already beat Rob Lucci, master of Rokushiki.
I'm afraid the next time they meet in the NW, Coby will be showed that he have learned haki while Luffy … already beat Shanks :ninja:
I'm pretty sure Oda said in volume 1000 that Coby has advanced CoO
Ohhh the legendary Coby frowth rare is so big that he will be admiral level before the epilogue… God Robby already said everythign and I fully agree... And before the Coby fans will go ape shit... Yeah his growth was amazing but he still is absolutely fodder shit to Luffy and Co... You are talking that Luffy and Co haven't grown on a high level as well, even more after the 2 years timeskip.
The last time I checked... Amazing growth Coby got his faced punched in by Luffy, who already was worn out at the war.
If you think, that Coby somehow is able to close the gap, while Luffy trained his ass off with a legend as well after losing his beloved brother and crew... And in addition now is fighting with top NW pirates and soon Yonkous... You are just fooling yourself.
As Robby said... Epilogue Coby for sure will be an admiral... But not at the time Luffy has his final battles with Akainu and BB to become pirate king.
You mean the same Coby that had no fighting ability and in the matter of weeks learned Soru and how to fight? The same Coby that unlocked his Haki at the war and most definitely has better haki then Zoro and Sanji? The same one that is training with Garp the living legend? Because no. Coby obviously hasn't been training as hard as Luffy and co amiright? And the fight he promised Luffy also will never come?
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Serial Co by underestimating.
Atleast Coby was obviously weaker than Luffy that Luffy could knock him out with a slap but couple days later Coby learns soru and could land a kick on Luffy.
The way Coby is rising in strength he will in due time catch up to Smoker just like he caught up up with Tashigi in rank and will keep rising.
@Robby. Coby and Luffy promise each other they will fight and I'm 100% sure this fight will happen not in some epilogue but in the main current story. After 2 years of Timeskip Oda has been showing Smoker as a guy who is no longer a threat unlike when he was in the part of the sea logia's was a big threat, in fact there is no way Smoker is or will be/look like a threat to Luffy anymore. Coby is the more of a threat since he's young and still in gaining power. Coby has more courage than most marines shown, just to save the lives of fellow marines he blocked Akainu who could kill him in heart beat.
Coby is shown to be getting stronger and stronger catching up to people while Smoker was already strong but now he falling below or he has reached his limit.
And what if by the time Coby appears in the manga it will be that he just recently got promoted to Rear Admiral or something? Anything can happen.
There's no point in arguing about who's gonna be Luffy's Garp for now! As far as we know, they both could end up being one. Luffy does have lots of parallels with Roger but in the end, he's still Luffy. Not every single thing he does or experiences is gonna mirror what Roger did!
Now I think that you're underestimating Smoker.
Exactly and that's why Coby is Coby, he is not gonna to mirror Garp that much, he could end up being an Admiral why Garp wasn't one but at the end that relationship is there but not exact like Garp/Roger. For fuck sakes Garp himself is even training Coby enough said, and Coby will end up acting like Garp since that's what student and master relationship does.
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Now I think that you're underestimating Smoker.
I have every right to underestimate him just like y'all doing Coby. Smoker first new world appearance and fights he lost all 3 fights easily. He didn't look like a threat to anyone at all.
Exactly and that's why Coby is Coby, he is not gonna to mirror Garp that much, he could end up being an Admiral why Garp wasn't one but at the end that relationship is there but not exact like Garp/Roger. For fuck sakes Garp himself is even training Coby enough said, and Coby will end up acting like Garp since that's what student and master relationship does.
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I have every right to underestimate him just like y'all doing Coby. Smoker first new world appearance and fights he lost all 3 fights easily. He didn't look like a threat to anyone at all.
you mean when he lost to two shichibukai and a haki monster like vergo and despite the fight against doflamingo (where he was wounded from his fight against vergo) was doing pretty well against them?
I have every right to underestimate him just like y'all doing Coby. Smoker first new world appearance and fights he lost all 3 fights easily. He didn't look like a threat to anyone at all.
Losing to a warlord is no shame,a nd Law's power is particularly haxey and hard to defend against.
Vergo he purposely lost the fight and provided distraction making himself easier to hit so Law could get what he needed.
Doflamingo attacked him after he'd already been worn down from the previous battles, and again, losing to a warlord one on one is no shame, they ARE considered among the strongest guys in the world.
Exactly and that's why Coby is Coby, he is not gonna to mirror Garp that much, he could end up being an Admiral why Garp wasn't one but at the end that relationship is there but not exact like Garp/Roger. For fuck sakes Garp himself is even training Coby enough said, and Coby will end up acting like Garp since that's what student and master relationship does.
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I have every right to underestimate him just like y'all doing Coby. Smoker first new world appearance and fights he lost all 3 fights easily. He didn't look like a threat to anyone at all.
If you read my comment s and looked at my username you'd see I'm not the one underestimating Coby.
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@Harry:
Coby will NOT be admiral before the epilogue.
Also he definitely doesn't have better haki than Zoro and Sanji where do you come up with this garbage?"Most definitely has better haki than Zoro and Sanji" Wow…
Where do you come up with this
Unlocked beast observation haki during the war. He knew about it's existence before them and it was mentioned he was going to Garp to train his Haki.
these motherufuckers keeps on being bias assholes they are, now you guys are using power levels for your argument that coby got no parallelism to garp?
and these are the same bunch of know-it-alls who shoots down my theory because im supposedly "using power levels to justify that smoker is getting weak and coby getting up there with luffy."
just admit it that your argument "smoker is luffy's garp" is totally unproven and people could make case for coby as well.
you know this forum is fucked up when someone is even fuckin asking if "is it ok to give my my own ideas here? coz it seems that i need to be on the same page as your know-it-all asses"
oh, and robzilla, your "these should be followed to determine new nakama"–--half of these wont come out until either luffy invited them or that actually joined the crew. you guys just admit that you dont other people's opinion and you shoot down everything if you dont personally like it. so much for this being called a "theory forum"
the point is smoker is going down in competitiveness with luffy and could be possibly be replaced by coby soon, the last time luffy punched coby in marineford, coby havent awakened his CoO that time, coby's CoO alone could be a threat to luffy, do you guys realize that if coby's CoO grow too strong, luffy might not even hit him next time because luffy's observation haki is pretty average?
and with him backed up garp, coby can have the leniency that smoker doesnt have (which might pretty be stuck at G5 for now,) in terms of pursuing luffy.
youre genius asses never thought that smoker might have been a decoy to slowly put coby as luffy's garp? and maybe smoker's main point before is just to introduce a logia? (not that, its the whole character of smoker, of course smoker is the guy who slowly sees that the strawhats and marines are not black and white----just to be specific because your nitpicking asses like to find the singlest holes to pull your neverending, redundant, paraphrased arguments)
of course you guys will still gang up on anything like a group of jurors acting all right and stuff. go ahead, make a joke out of me, thats your whole point of "theory discussion"
@RobbyBevard:
Losing to a warlord is no shame,a nd Law's power is particularly haxey and hard to defend against.
Vergo he purposely lost the fight and provided distraction making himself easier to hit so Law could get what he needed.
Doflamingo attacked him after he'd already been worn down from the previous battles, and again, losing to a warlord one on one is no shame, they ARE considered among the strongest guys in the world.
It's not about Smoker being weak in this case but rather not being seen as a threat to Luffy. Luffy is the rival of that warlord and is about to beat Vergo's boss. While Smoky is on a loosing streak.
these motherufuckers keeps on being bias assholes they are, now you guys are using power levels for your argument that coby got no parallelism to garp?
and these are the same bunch of know-it-alls who shoots down my theory because im supposedly "using power levels to justify that smoker is getting weak and coby getting up there with luffy."
just admit it that your argument "smoker is luffy's garp" is totally unproven and people could make case for coby as well.
you know this forum is fucked up when someone is even fuckin asking if "is it ok to give my my own ideas here? coz it seems that i need to be on the same page as your know-it-all asses"
oh, and robzilla, your "these should be followed to determine new nakama"–--half of these wont come out until either luffy invited them or that actually joined the crew. you guys just admit that you dont other people's opinion and you shoot down everything if you dont personally like it. so much for this being called a "theory forum"
the point is smoker is going down in competitiveness with luffy and could be possibly be replaced by coby soon, the last time luffy punched coby in marineford, coby havent awakened his CoO that time, coby's CoO alone could be a threat to luffy, do you guys realize that if coby's CoO grow too strong, luffy might not even hit him next time because luffy's observation haki is pretty average?
and with him backed up garp, coby can have the leniency that smoker doesnt have (which might pretty be stuck at G5 for now,) in terms of pursuing luffy.
youre genius asses never thought that smoker might have been a decoy to slowly put coby as luffy's garp? and maybe smoker's main point before is just to introduce a logia? (not that, its the whole character of smoker, of course smoker is the guy who slowly sees that the strawhats and marines are not black and white----just to be specific because your nitpicking asses like to find the singlest holes to pull your neverending, redundant, paraphrased arguments)
of course you guys will still gang up on anything like a group of jurors acting all right and stuff. go ahead, make a joke out of me, thats your whole point of "theory discussion"
That's funny because almost everyone knows that Smoker is Luffys Garp.
@Harry:
Coby will NOT be admiral before the epilogue.
Also he definitely doesn't have better haki than Zoro and Sanji where do you come up with this garbage?"Most definitely has better haki than Zoro and Sanji" Wow…
Where do you come up with this
I suppose it comes from Coby unlocking CoO(which is probably is specialty) being trained in it by Garp and his growth rate. Even Smoker is doing good in haki now.
im in no point insisting about my theory, coz im so done trying to discuss with you motherfuckers, there are other way more respectful and "willing to listen to an idea" guys out there in forums that are not populated with monopolizing, wannabe geniuses like you are. you know-it-all bromancers got each other's back so much you almost formed a conga line.this is a "theory forum" and no matter if you agree or disagree or whether that guy is wrong or right (because were all fucking guessing here), give him a chance to throw his idea…especially if they spent time thinking and writing it all off just to share it with you motherfuckers. have some respect to other people's opinion, and its obvious you guys dont have that, you are driving new members away and all that's left here are you motherfuckers running out of things to discuss because a small group of assholes needs to be on the fuckin same page every damn time shooting anyone who got different opinion.
screw this page.
im in no point insisting about my theory, coz im so done trying to discuss with you motherfuckers, there are other way more respectful and "willing to listen to an idea" guys out there in forums that are not populated with monopolizing, wannabe geniuses like you are. you know-it-all bromancers got each other's back so much you almost formed a conga line.this is a "theory forum" and no matter if you agree or disagree or whether that guy is wrong or right (because were all fucking guessing here), give him a chance to throw his idea…especially if they spent time thinking and writing it all off just to share it with you motherfuckers. have some respect to other people's opinion, and its obvious you guys dont have that, you are driving new members away and all that's left here are you motherfuckers running out of things to discuss because a small group of assholes needs to be on the fuckin same page every damn time shooting anyone who got different opinion.
screw this page.
I hope you have a wonderful day.
Here's what happened when non-haki user fight with CoO user
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And here's what happened when someone who mastered CoO fight with non-haki user
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Another CoO expert? Luffy can handle it with his eyes closed …
I suppose it comes from Coby unlocking CoO(which is probably is specialty) being trained in it by Garp and his growth rate. Even Smoker is doing good in haki now.
still doesn`t mean he has better haki than zoro or sanji
im in no point insisting about my theory, coz im so done trying to discuss with you motherfuckers, there are other way more respectful and "willing to listen to an idea" guys out there in forums that are not populated with monopolizing, wannabe geniuses like you are. you know-it-all bromancers got each other's back so much you almost formed a conga line.this is a "theory forum" and no matter if you agree or disagree or whether that guy is wrong or right (because were all fucking guessing here), give him a chance to throw his idea…especially if they spent time thinking and writing it all off just to share it with you motherfuckers. have some respect to other people's opinion, and its obvious you guys dont have that, you are driving new members away and all that's left here are you motherfuckers running out of things to discuss because a small group of assholes needs to be on the fuckin same page every damn time shooting anyone who got different opinion.
screw this page.
Smokie won't join.
@RobbyBevard:
But will you, Coby, be admiral level after two years of training?
When did I say two years of training? He will be one before the epilogue though.
still doesn`t mean he has better haki than zoro or sanji
I am just giving the reasons why someone could believe it.
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Why is there so much space under my signature?
im in no point insisting about my theory, coz im so done trying to discuss with you motherfuckers, there are other way more respectful and "willing to listen to an idea" guys out there in forums that are not populated with monopolizing, wannabe geniuses like you are. you know-it-all bromancers got each other's back so much you almost formed a conga line.this is a "theory forum" and no matter if you agree or disagree or whether that guy is wrong or right (because were all fucking guessing here), give him a chance to throw his idea…especially if they spent time thinking and writing it all off just to share it with you motherfuckers. have some respect to other people's opinion, and its obvious you guys dont have that, you are driving new members away and all that's left here are you motherfuckers running out of things to discuss because a small group of assholes needs to be on the fuckin same page every damn time shooting anyone who got different opinion.
screw this page.
I find it strange how you assume that when mutiple people come to the same conclusion, that is them ganging up on you.
Like they somehow thought hey let's break this kid for just being a nice guy.
Airing your theory means opening it up to criticism, and that's just something you'll have to come to terms with. Like what's the point of even making a theory if you can't discuss it with people, but i guess if all you are after is a place to post it where people just go oh that's a lovely theory you've got there, then i guess AP is the wrong place for you to do it.
@Harry:
Just like how bellamy will be joining (which he wont, see ing as hes fodder material)
"Fodder material". Oda disagrees with you.
As much as I'd like to see it, I don't think Coby will be an Admiral or on Admiral level before the story ends and fight on par with Luffy. He's like the first representative of all the people the future Pirate King 'inspired' to not be afraid and pursue their dreams, but will be a fair way off off the strongest guys before the epilogue.
With that said, being a Coby fanboy myself, my dream scenario would be: In the final war, the marine ideologically split into two opposing parties, Coby will be the one to fight and beat Akainu. (Which would require him to be on his level, which is crazy talks, which won't happen. But a man can have his stupid dreams.)
I dunno… If Coby only became an admiral at the epilogue, it would feel like downplaying his dream. He's been around as long as Luffy and his ambition being realized only as an offhand mention... It should be grander than that!
Still he has a long way to reaching that title, and I'm not sure if he'd be strong enough before the end, so it could happen at the epilogue too. It just would be lame. Of course, if the Government is gonna fall at the end there would be no Marines to get promotions off! Maybe Coby impresses Dragon at the final war somehow and he makes him the head of new Marines or something. But he still has to train a whole fucking heap!
@Light:
I dunno… If Coby only became an admiral at the epilogue, it would feel like downplaying his dream. He's been around as long as Luffy and his ambition being realized only as an offhand mention... It should be grander than that!
Still he has a long way to reaching that title, and I'm not sure if he'd be strong enough before the end, so it could happen at the epilogue too. It just would be lame. Of course, if the Government is gonna fall at the end there would be no Marines to get promotions off! Maybe Coby impresses Dragon at the final war somehow and he makes him the head of new Marines or something. But he still has to train a whole fucking heap!
That's insinuating that Dragon will win in the end and that he has pure motives. Down with the revolutionary scum.
Are you for fucking real.
Current WG falling means no Marines? Light Bro, have you not been reading any of the discussions about the endgame that we've been having for the last… six months, pretty much? And more importantly, have you not read any of the senior-made posts on the last five pages of this thread? :V
The whole conversation has been about a fair justice seeking marine branch championed by Smoker and Aokiji splitting off and eventually facing off against Akainu's absolute justice.