Quite far-fetched. I think the WG knows that Dragon is a very careful man who puts his self-imposed duty before his feelings.
Ivankov told us that Dragon wouldn't let his son get executed without acting.
Quite far-fetched. I think the WG knows that Dragon is a very careful man who puts his self-imposed duty before his feelings.
Ivankov told us that Dragon wouldn't let his son get executed without acting.
Ivankov told us that Dragon let his son get executed without acting.
I thought Ivankov said Dragon wouldn't sit idly by while his son was going to be killed.
@kuma:
I thought Ivankov said Dragon wouldn't sit idly by while his son was going to be killed.
That's what I meant but with my phone it's a problem to be clear.
Didn't we see Dragon say though that Luffy is old enough to make his own decisions now though? I can't remember exactly when, it was either post Enies Lobby or just before Impel Down/Marineford.
Didn't we see Dragon say though that Luffy is old enough to make his own decisions now though? I can't remember exactly when, it was either post Enies Lobby or just before Impel Down/Marineford.
he did. i think it happened after the war when ivankov was back home on newkama island and talking to dragon on the phone. they were talking about luffy (w jinbei and rayleigh) attacking marineford.
but what does this tell us?
Relating to Dressrosa arc:
I think Akainu might show up when he hears of Luffy turning up (Back from Marineford when Akainu said he wasn't going to let Luffy live for being Dragons son.) and then that will trigger Aokiji turning up which I then believe will lead into another battle between Akainu and Aokiji.
Also anyone think there's a small chance Aokiji might join the Straw Hat's in this arc? I believe he will be a Straw Hat by the end of the series I just don't know if he will be one this early on after leaving the Marines.
Akainu is the fleet Admiral, he have responsibilities, he cannot just leave Marines Ford unattended like he's an Admiral and Aokiji is planning something and learning stuff, so I don't think he'll be a Strawhat like never, he might be another Vivi or something but no a full time traveler.
Smoker and Tashigi both leave the Navy and end up Strawhat crew members as the last members to join the crew after revelations of the void century.
Aokiji becomes/always was a revolutionary this entire time.
I like that theories. I don't really see too much space for Tashigi, or maybe i just don't care about her enough, but I'd love to see Smoker in the crew. From the guy that was hell bent on capturing Luffy recently had to team up with him and he starts to see that not all pirates are evil. WHen he met Luffy he saved in him Alabasta, defeated the guy that tried to overthrow kingdom, and now in PH he saved the kids and also himself… I think he could be 'Vegeta' of One Piece. The tough guy, that used to be rival of main character, and later on teaming up with main character but still being badass and powerfull. I guess we had a bit of that in Zoro (baddass, similar in strenght to main char, he was portrayed to be Vegeta of One Piece in one piece x toriko x dragon ball crossover), but he was never a villain or anything...
Also that would make SH have all the DFs powers without making them look overpowered. Its not like Smoker's Logia is so destructive like fire, magma etc. And we've seen he should be below Luffy (after being beat by Law who should be on similar lv).
Garp liked and respected Roger, but never stopped being his rival.
Smoker is the same, he will never become pirate. That guy wanted to catch Ace just because he was pirate, when he was just having dinner peacfully. Smoker himself liked Roger, but he generally dislikes pirates, one exception won't change anything to him. He will never become pirate, but also, he will most likely go against government and may help Luffy in final fight. He is just one of those guys who care about people and people's safety. And being the rival of someone you like and respect is really cool too.
@mary:
Garp liked and respected Roger, but never stopped being his rival.
Smoker is the same, he will never become pirate. That guy wanted to catch Ace just because he was pirate, when he was just having dinner peacfully. Smoker himself liked Roger, but he generally dislikes pirates, one exception won't change anything to him. He will never become pirate, but also, he will most likely go against government and may help Luffy in final fight. He is just one of those guys who care about people and people's safety. And being the rival of someone you like and respect is really cool too.
The differences between Garp and Smoker is, we don't know how the two would/will react once the truth comes out about the World Government and what really happened during the void century.
My guess is during the revelations of the Void century come into light, it'll make the WG look like the villians and the pirates/revoultionaries the good guys all while splitting the navy in half and having people choosing to fight against the WG with the Pirates (Strawhats crew) and Revolutionaries (Luffy's dad).
The real reason behind this is the fact that Smoker+Tashigi seen how good the Strawhats really are and Smoker+Tashigi have a sense of justice where they want to be good guys and will take actions against their own evil marine memberers (Vergo) and if the news is bad about the WG after the Poneglyhs are all read and trasmitted across the world showing the WG as being evil.
Who's to day good guys like Smoker and Tashigi don't switch sides? That's my reasoning behind the "dumb" theory.
The 'good guy' marines indeed will fight on pirates' side, but never will become the ones themselves, after the war is over they'll still be marines, that's what I meant.
btw do you guys think that the one who cut off zephyr's arm and murdered his division was doflamingo? it was stated that later that pirate became a schichibukai, so it has to be him. i wonder if they say anything about it in chapters.
btw do you guys think that the one who cut off zephyr's arm and murdered his division was doflamingo? it was stated that later that pirate became a schichibukai, so it has to be him. i wonder if they say anything about it in chapters.
it has already been stated that he is the seventh shichibukai,the one we don't know about yet and that become one of the group during the timeskip…
Z left the marines exactly because said pirate became a shichibukai
it has already been stated that he is the seventh shichibukai,the one we don't know about yet and that become one of the group during the timeskip…
Z left the marines exactly because said pirate became a shichibukai
stated? where did they say that there's a seventh schichibukai?
stated? where did they say that there's a seventh schichibukai?
In the same chapter we learn about Buggy being a shichibukai.
@mary:
The 'good guy' marines indeed will fight on pirates' side, but never will become the ones themselves, after the war is over they'll still be marines, that's what I meant.
That's why it's a theory in this thread. Either way, we won't know for a fact if Smoker/Tashigi eventually become pirates/revolutionaries and only Oda would know what he has in plans for them.
There's a reason I posted this in the Dumb theory thread though. It's just a hunch.
Law is working with Aokiji, he may have even informed him that Doflamingo may be on the island soon. Aokiji is playing nice with Blackbeard but will turn on them when he finds out enough information, whether it's motives, location etc.
Chopper didn't eat the human devil fruit. He actually ate an ancient zoan type.
The fruit he ate was the race of people that lived and died in the void century. That explains why he doesn't look very human like in his human form.
The actual human fruit is consumed by a piece of rubber, and ends up becoming really strong, and the last fight in the series will be luffy, vs the rubber who consumed the human fruit.
I was away for a while so i don't know if this has stated before but has anyone thought that meadows=kanjuro? In this picture the mustache fits to him.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/201064/one-piece_ch725_by_powermanga/6
Chopper didn't eat the human devil fruit. He actually ate an ancient zoan type.
The fruit he ate was the race of people that lived and died in the void century. That explains why he doesn't look very human like in his human form.
http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/image_929.jpgThe actual human fruit is consumed by a piece of rubber, and ends up becoming really strong, and the last fight in the series will be luffy, vs the rubber who consumed the human fruit.
Dumb predictions thread :P
@Warden:
I was away for a while so i don't know if this has stated before but has anyone thought that meadows=kanjuro? In this picture the mustache fits to him.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/201064/one-piece_ch725_by_powermanga/6
Why would he be allowed to compete in the tournament? Why would they give him a cat for a hat? What impetus does he have to compete under a false name? Why would he look so cheerful in the only panel he's appeared in when he's a prisoner? Why is his face so much wider than that silhouette suggests? Is that even a moustache in the silhouette or just his hairstyle?
No. If Meadows was a character we've met before we'd have more of a clue than just a moustache. If he's important then he's someone new to the audience, but I'm more inclined to believe he's a nobody.
Why would he be allowed to compete in the tournament? Why would they give him a cat for a hat? What impetus does he have to compete under a false name? Why would he look so cheerful in the only panel he's appeared in when he's a prisoner? Why is his face so much wider than that silhouette suggests? Is that even a moustache in the silhouette or just his hairstyle?
No. If Meadows was a character we've met before we'd have more of a clue than just a moustache. If he's important then he's someone new to the audience, but I'm more inclined to believe he's a nobody.
Well i don't fully support this, i just thought it but i don't think your objection is not too hard to answered. Here is a quick theory i have made:
Kanjuro is someone important in Wano country (which is logical if you consider that he K.O block D so quickly). Donflamingo catched him and puted him in prison but he managed to espace. Now in order to control him he wants to seize Momonosuke, his comrade son.
Although, i don't find any reason for him to enter the tournament. Maybe, he just likes to fight like Zoro. This would explain the cheerful smile
@Warden:
Well i don't fully support this, i just thought it but i don't think your objection is not too hard to answered. Here is a quick theory i have made:
Kanjuro is someone important in Wano country (which is logical if you consider that he K.O block D so quickly). Donflamingo catched him and puted him in prison but he managed to espace. Now in order to control him he wants to seize Momonosuke, his comrade son.
Although, i don't find any reason for him to enter the tournament. Maybe, he just likes to fight like Zoro.
If that were the case why would he remain on Dressrosa? His comrades are missing. He knows for certain that Momo and Kinemon left the island and his other friend never washed up there in the first place. There really is no reason for him to enter the tournament. This is a man who sacrificed himself so that Kinemon could escape. Just that one thing we know about him suggests he's a man of duty and honour. He's not going to break free to then enter a tournament right under his enemy's nose just for the fun of it.
If that were the case why would he remain on Dressrosa? His comrades are missing. He knows for certain that Momo and Kinemon left the island and his other friend never washed up there in the first place. There really is no reason for him to enter the tournament. This is a man who sacrificed himself so that Kinemon could escape. Just that one thing we know about him suggests he's a man of duty and honour. He's not going to break free to then enter a tournament right under his enemy's nose just for the fun of it.
If that's the case maybe he entered the tournament to gather information for the fate of his comrades. Like when luffy and franky needed information and they gone to Coliseum. Anyway all these are just a theory. It's not improbable but there is not any data to support it.
@Warden:
If that's the case maybe he entered the tournament to gather information for the fate of his comrades. Like when luffy and franky needed information and they gone to Coliseum. Anyway all these are just a theory. It's not improbable but there is not any data to support it.
Why would entering the tournament get him the information he's after? The whole reason he was captured as a decoy was to prevent the Doflamingo family from following Kinemon. Them not knowing where he went was his whole purpose. His other comrade never reached Dressrosa, so the Doflamingo family wouldn't know about him either. On top of that, Luffy only entered the tournament to get the mera mera no mi. The original plan for Franky was just to find someone who might know where the factory was and beat it out of them. He met Soldier-san so he didn't have to, but at no point was actually entering the tournament a means of obtaining information.
It's not impossible for Meadows to be Kanjuro, but I do personally find it highly improbable. There's ample reason for it not to be him and only the alleged moustache in the theory's favour.
@Warden:
If that's the case maybe he entered the tournament to gather information for the fate of his comrades. Like when luffy and franky needed information and they gone to Coliseum. Anyway all these are just a theory. It's not improbable but there is not any data to support it.
I'm afraid it's both completely improbable and with no data to support it.
Kuma sent the SH to meet revolutionaries or people sympathetic to the revolutionary army. He needed them to get stronger, but also needed them to be safe, to he sent them to places where he had trusted people.
Oars is in Moriah new crew with a new leg borrowed from the other Oars.
The Tontata scout gathered false information about the hobby hobby no mi. Sugar did eat the fruit but the losses of memories are caused by an other devil fruit eaten by Manshelly. They did not notice her because she is always hiding in Sugar clothes. It would make of this panel an epic foreshadowing!
While Luffy fights Kaido, Zoro's opponent will be one of Kaido's commanders who is a Mantis Zoan User.
The Tontata scout gathered false information about the hobby hobby no mi. Sugar did eat the fruit but the losses of memories are caused by an other devil fruit eaten by Manshelly. They did not notice her because she is always hiding in Sugar clothes. It would make of this panel an epic foreshadowing!
I found that scene with trebol and sugar a little be creepy for some reason.
I have a theory, concerning the final war.
If Whitebeard assaulted Marinford from the sea, Straw Hats will come from the sky via Sunny.
Dr Kureha is related to Roger in someway.
Meadows is working for the final Shichibukai.
The final Shichibukai is Jack. :ninja:
@The:
The final Shichibukai is Jack. :ninja:
Wouldn't surprise me if he was. I'd love it if he was called Jack the Ripper.
Hiluluk's backstory when he was a thief is related to Wano which is based on a country where the cherry blossom tree originated. His incurable ilness is actually a tuberculosis-like disease (cough on blood), Tuberculosis plagued Japan in the bakufu period. The reason why Kinemon headed to Zo (in which he refused to explain) is to find the cure to the disease that recently plagued the whole Wano. When the crew finally land there, Chopper will somehow struggle on his dream about cure all the diseases in the world because he can't even face the illness (Hiluluk terminal illness wasn't even cured 8 years ago) while he is surrounded by the tree of his belief. And Chopper will receive the "The Sixth Person" chapter title when Wano arc ended :ninja:.
seeing Oda is incorporated many feudal Japan within Wano (samurais, closed door policy, kasa, yamato nadeshiko ladyesque etc), I also would like to see a Shinsengumi force parody, Oda can do the job better than Gintama.
Hiluluk's backstory when he was a thief is related to Wano which is based on a country where the cherry blossom tree originated. (…)
Based on that I can't stop thinking that the place where Roger and WB sat and had a drink could also be either Wano (this place looked very "harmonic") or Kano (this place also looked "flowery"). Another theory I'd like to share is this though it is very speculative: Elbaf will be the Island where we might see the first AW and it'd be Ouranos. Long ago, b4 the last AW's Name was revealed, fans thought that the last weapon would be called "Thor" and that it would be located on Elbaf. Why I still think that there is an AW? Because of all the stuff thats already Happening in this arc. 2 Yonkous involved, another Yonkou is target of Lawffy. We have CP0 and Revos there and an Admiral. So I wonder how Oda will try to Keep the audience stay tuned after such a big arc like this. And just because Usoppe likes giants can't be the only big Thing bout Elbaf. There must be more goin on there. Remember how the WG wants to create giants for their military? Maybe they wanna get rid of Elbaf, so they don't have to create giants anymore, cause they have the only giants left (the giant squad). I know, from Saul we heard that Elbaf isn't the only isle of giants. This is also just pure speculation so far. Or what do you think will make the Elbaf arc more interesting except Luffy's and Usoppe's desire to see it?
I'm sure this has been said/mentioned more than once, but, what are the chances of Kaido ACTUALLY being a creature rather than a man/creature hybrid; say…an actual dragon, perchance? I mean, we've heard mention of Dragon's, and the like in the series for quite sometime--with legendary tale of Ryuma, to the artificial dragon created by Vegapunk, and even a dragon Devil Fruit created by Vegapunk as well. Also. If Kaido was a dragon, it could, in fact, explain the reaction Kinemon and Momonosuke reacted to the mere mention of Kaido; Wano have a violent and bad history with dragonkind in general.
I mean... It would be kind of weird for a large crew/fleet of people/things to follow a mere creature, like a dragon, and treat him like a boss of a corporation or something, however, if the being is powerful enough (and smart enough), they could, like...worship him instead as some sort of holy entity. I know this is filler, but, in the 3 recent episodes of the One Piece anime, there was an entire pirate crew of animals that somehow made it into the New World, and I'm sure Toei themselves have to go to get the 'okay' from Oda himself--in someway, some form--before they can implement anything into the universe he created.
What if this was like, a hint or something, a nod, that Kaido might in fact be nothing more than a highly intelligent, extremely powerful, incredibly large dragon, that, almost everyone in the world is fearful of; kinda-sorta like Smaug from The Hobbit. Heck. It could even be a nod to the Hobbit, I mean... Smaug likes treasure, pirates like treasure etc. etc.
Bah. And the support I have for it is silly, especially counting filler that wasn't directly created by Oda. It's probably not true, but after watching the 3 filler episodes, which weren't really...the best, but ok, it just got me thinking with the entire animal pirate crew and all.
1.Meadows = Kaido in Disguise. I actually hope Kaido comes later but it would make sense that he would show up at the tournament.
2.Here's one I found on another site about Kaidos identity:
Kaido is the Emperor of Wano.
Why do I say this?
Exhibit A: http://imgur.com/P6niRNQ
Kinemon and Momo clearly are shocked hearing the name Kaido, then quickly brush over it. Unless they're well acquainted with Kaido, why divert attention?
Exhibit B: http://imgur.com/2tQhX3X
Remember this guy? His grave was robbed in Wano country by Moria. Who has Moria duelled in the past? Kaido. Moria lost the duel, but got away with Ryuma.
Exhibit C: Wano is independent. Wano is amazingly strong. So strong that it is safe from the WG and Yonko. A force that strong and not mentioned explicitly by any character? A country full of elite samurai left alone by the Yonko? It must have something strong to strike that kind of fear in the Yonko and the WG and not be another world power. If even the Shichibukai in the New World are allianced under Yonko, it would only make sense that Wano is a Yonko's home. Kaido's home.
This would also make sense why Momo and Kinemon were scared just at the sound of his name. Kaido might rule over Wano or just might be a tyrant at the moment
3. Sabo acquiring Mera-Mera. Defeating "The Champion " Burgess, who knows.
4. Blackbeard having another Devil Fruit…Cerberus Fruit. Hence why he can have multiple DF's as well as explaining the 3 skulls on his jolly roger. Also, Zoro and Luffy reffered to Marshall as a "they" correcting Nami who called him "he" http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2332-16/one-piece/chapter-225.html
5.Lucky Roo has a DF that make's him lucky, or change probability or something etc. I think Luck-Luck Fruit….First, here are some chapter pages (look at pages 5 and 6) (Chapter 580 pages 5 and 6…links messed up sorry guys) of the ending of the Marineford War, where Shanks and his crew intervenes. If you remember, Shanks and Jinbei help Luffy get on Law's submarine and help him escape.
As you may recall, Lucky Roo (shanks Crewmate the first killer of one piece) is part of Shanks's crew. Whenevr we see him, he seems so laid back, eating his rack of meat. My theory is that he has some sort of "luck power", perhaps a Lucky Lucky Fruit.
Now go back to the chapter pages. It seems highly unlikely that Law's submarine can escape Aokiji's Ice Age, and moreunlikely that they can dodge all of Kizaru's rain of light! I think Oda purposely places a frame of Lucky Roo in the page when these attacks happened for a reason. He aided in Law's submarine's escape by giving them the power of luck. Kizaru even states that if they survived that, he would admit "luck was on their side". This choice of wording has never been used when "close calls" happen in One Piece, and I think the reason is that Lucky Roo has a luck ability.
@White:
1.Meadows = Kaido in Disguise. I actually hope Kaido comes later but it would make sense that he would show up at the tournament.
Not really. Law made a big deal of explaining how it was impossible to get near a yonko unless you had a plan to draw them out. Meadows being Kaido would totally go against that. It's more likely that he's a kaido commander sent to obtain the mera mera, just like Burgess for Blackbeard. That's if he's affiliated with Kaido at all. It could also be Shanks he owes his allegiance to.
@White:
2.Here's one I found on another site about Kaidos identity:
This would also make sense why Momo and Kinemon were scared just at the sound of his name. Kaido might rule over Wano or just might be a tyrant at the moment
This is more likely. I think Wano is probably one of Kaido's territories in the NW. There's definitely some connection there anyway.
@White:
3. Sabo acquiring Mera-Mera. Defeating "The Champion " Burgess, who knows.
Nah. Burgess will still get the fruit. There's way more to be had storywise from him eating the fruit than Sabo claiming it.
@White:
4. Blackbeard having another Devil Fruit…Cerberus Fruit. Hence why he can have multiple DF's as well as explaining the 3 skulls on his jolly roger. Also, Zoro and Luffy reffered to Marshall as a "they" correcting Nami who called him "he" http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2332-16/one-piece/chapter-225.html
This is a golden oldie with so many reasons against it that I won't even bother.
@White:
5.Lucky Roo has a DF that make's him lucky, or change probability or something etc. I think Luck-Luck Fruit….First, here are some chapter pages (look at pages 5 and 6) (Chapter 580 pages 5 and 6…links messed up sorry guys) of the ending of the Marineford War, where Shanks and his crew intervenes. If you remember, Shanks and Jinbei help Luffy get on Law's submarine and help him escape.
As you may recall, Lucky Roo (shanks Crewmate the first killer of one piece) is part of Shanks's crew. Whenevr we see him, he seems so laid back, eating his rack of meat. My theory is that he has some sort of "luck power", perhaps a Lucky Lucky Fruit.
Now go back to the chapter pages. It seems highly unlikely that Law's submarine can escape Aokiji's Ice Age, and moreunlikely that they can dodge all of Kizaru's rain of light! I think Oda purposely places a frame of Lucky Roo in the page when these attacks happened for a reason. He aided in Law's submarine's escape by giving them the power of luck. Kizaru even states that if they survived that, he would admit "luck was on their side". This choice of wording has never been used when "close calls" happen in One Piece, and I think the reason is that Lucky Roo has a luck ability.
The Red Hair Pirates are the closest thing to a "realistic" pirate crew we've seen in OP. I doubt any of them have DF powers.
The Red Hair Pirates are the closest thing to a "realistic" pirate crew we've seen in OP. I doubt any of them have DF powers.
Then why did Shanks keep the Gomu Gomu fruit in the first place. He or someone had to have had the intentions of eating it.
@White:
Then why did Shanks keep the Gomu Gomu fruit in the first place. He or someone had to have had the intentions of eating it.
They are worth quite a bit of money,plus there was no reason to throw it out.
Maybe he had the same attitude towards DFs as Roger and figured he'd keep it around just in case anybody felt like eating it.
@White:
Then why did Shanks keep the Gomu Gomu fruit in the first place. He or someone had to have had the intentions of eating it.
they were going to sell it
Covering old ground somewhat but all characters with D in their names are related somehow or from the same lineage. They never outright kill one another but their paths are destined to cross or their actions will affect one another in some way.
I still think destiny has a large thing to do with the behaviour of those who carry the initial D. Fingers crossed we're still alive to find out officially what it stands for in One Piece one day.
The Red Hair Pirates are the closest thing to a "realistic" pirate crew we've seen in OP. I doubt any of them have DF powers.
:ninja:
http://i.imgur.com/i8mYlm6.jpg
:ninja:
The one on the left is Rockstar a rookie member of the Red Hair Pirates, he delivered Shanks' message to Whitebeard, I highly doubt that Rockstar at the right, but anything is possible.
i like the idea of kaidou being an actual beast (non human) but i dont think he will be a mindless untalkative beast. i imagine him as an ancient, rare species like oars.
i like the idea of kaidou being an actual beast (non human) but i dont think he will be a mindless untalkative beast. i imagine him as an ancient, rare species like oars.
I'm about 100% sure that Kaido is human. We've seen his silhouette before . He probably probably poses the strongest zoan ability.
I'm about 100% sure that Kaido is human. We've seen his silhouette before . He probably probably poses the strongest zoan ability.
or a beast with hito hito fruit :ninja: