Yeah, it's possible. I like the idea of the princess being the toy maker, though. Can't wait to see what Oda has in store for us.
Chapter 726 "The Riku Family"
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Guys, you shouldn't forget that we HAVE seen magical stuff that had nothing to do with DFs. In addition to the Klabautermann, we had the fortune telling in FI, as well as the voices of inanimate objects.
Both of these could easily end up being extensions of Color of Observation (when Aisa and Coby talk about it, they specifically use the word "voices").
And I'm sure we'll find out more about Sharley eventually. Seems inevitable, given that her prediction still needs to come true.
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Or maybe it's just a mystery toy factory? Yeah, that's probably it. sips tea
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Guys, you shouldn't forget that we HAVE seen magical stuff that had nothing to do with DFs. In addition to the Klabautermann, we had the fortune telling in FI, as well as the voices of inanimate objects. The way I see it, Trebol could very well just be a slime person with a toy DF.
Nah, all of that was Haki.
Yes even the Klabautermann.
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@CCC:
Both of these could easily end up being extensions of Color of Observation (when Aisa and Coby talk about it, they specifically use the word "voices").
And I'm sure we'll find out more about Sharley eventually. Seems inevitable, given that her prediction still needs to come true.
I thought Luffy already destroyed FI by bringing back down to zero?
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Glib, is this sarcasm?
In Shyarly's vision, Fishman Island is in flames behind Luffy's silhouette, IIRC.
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Yeah, that still seems up for debate. The flames might seem like a minor detail, but it's enough for me to doubt that what she foresaw was supposed to be metaphorical (also, at the end of the fight, she thinks to herself, "Oh, I guess this is the first time my prediction didn't come true" or something like that, which just SCREAMS doomsday foreshadowing)
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@CCC:
Yeah, that still seems up for debate. The flames might seem like a minor detail, but it's enough for me to doubt that what she foresaw was supposed to be metaphorical (also, at the end of the fight, she thinks to herself, "Oh, I guess this is the first time my prediction didn't come true" or something like that, which just SCREAMS doomsday foreshadowing)
Yeah no kidding. There are even a few panels where Camie thinks to herself that Sharley's predictions are never wrong.
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^ That's exactly how I interpreted it.
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@CCC:
Yeah, that still seems up for debate. The flames might seem like a minor detail, but it's enough for me to doubt that what she foresaw was supposed to be metaphorical (also, at the end of the fight, she thinks to herself, "Oh, I guess this is the first time my prediction didn't come true" or something like that, which just SCREAMS doomsday foreshadowing)
Well, I guess that makes sense given how the arc seemed a bit incomplete
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Shyarly predicted Whitebeard's death: for all we know she has a DF fruit that gives her her prediction's power or it was the crystal ball that had it :ninja:
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If her prediction power were just another DF, why not mention that?
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That's why it's gotta be Observation Haki.
edit: Has Shyarly ever been depicted swimming?
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If her prediction power were just another DF, why not mention that?
To add to the mystery: it's more mysterious this way, no?
Not enough information regarding her prediction abilities: Oda left it ambiguous to keep us guessing :ninja:
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Eh. No, it was explicitly said that she had this power since she was a child. She told us that.
I mean… she COULD be hiding the fact that she ate a DF as a child, but otherwise that's a weird way of phrasing it.
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Yeah I can stretch my imagination with psychic fortune telling if hypnotism with color of observation exists. Haki is still a mystery but I can attribute it to some person's will or force powers that is kinda like devil fruit powers. BUT…the Klaubatterman is something I really cannot stretch my imagination to fit in the OP verse. The whole spirit of inanimate of objects kinda seems a bit weird such as hearing the voice of things but even then...they don't get up on their own and do things like the Klaubatterman (and i hope that Oda DOES explain it because just by having it some...whimsical spirit of the ship that SOMEHOW repairs itself is kinda weird).
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Well, it could be like this:
Haki is the power not to doubt, right? Armor Haki is what happens when you don't doubt your own physical ability to withstand a strike or cause damage. Observation Haki is what happens when you don't doubt your intuition or your awareness beyond just the obvious.
Conqueror Haki could be involved with Klabautermann if it is simply caused by the crew not doubting that their ship has a life of its own.
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Hypnotism from paint?
Color suggestion is a real thing. Oda just made an exaggerated cartoon version of it.
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Guys, you shouldn't forget that we HAVE seen magical stuff that had nothing to do with DFs. In addition to the Klabautermann, we had the fortune telling in FI, as well as the voices of inanimate objects. The way I see it, Trebol could very well just be a slime person with a toy DF.
Those are really vague urban myth level "magic" though.
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Conqueror Haki could be involved with Klabautermann if it is simply caused by the crew not doubting that their ship has a life of its own.
That makes it sound more like Usopp hallucinating.
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It does… but could hallucinations somehow be linked to a predisposition for talent in Haki? The key, here, seems to be believing the hallucination to be real SO HARD that it actually becomes real.
That is how Rayleigh described it, right? The power not to doubt?
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@Monkey:
Color suggestion is a real thing. Oda just made an exaggerated cartoon version of it.
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Those are really vague urban myth level "magic" though.
With Haki being OP's version of the Force, and not magic outright.So you reckon they're all just extensions of haki or…?
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Klabautermann was Violet's tears that she was able to magically send 4000km in the SHs direction as a result of her invisible eye technique where she gets to hang a pair of eyes up in the sky. And liquid conducts voice better than air, so obviously it was her talking to Usopp the whole time.
How? Duh, magic. Doesn't need an explanation.
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I think the klaubauterman is just a spirit based thing, much like how oda takes his references from real life cultures and stuff. Devil fruits are more whimsical and random, and they represent the out-of-the-world things that we see. At least that's my 2 cents worth of thought on it.
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So, it looks like the "void century" was a time of worldwide revolution where the tenryublablas lost their power ? They don't want people to remember…
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So, it looks like the "void century" was a time of worldwide revolution where the tenryublablas lost their power ? They don't want people to remember…
I always thought the Tenryuubito gained power after the void century. The World Gov't was established just after the void century ended, and the most royal noble bloodlines, including the Donquixote family, chose to go to stay at Marijoa and so King Riku took over Dressrosa.
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I really want to know why DD's crew is that loyal towards him. He's being portrayed as a gigantic asshole, a textbook example of a villain. But despite all the crimes he committed (and is still committing), the 'family' stays by his side, following him without any complaints, ready to even sacrifice their lives if need be. There have to be certain bonds Doflamingo has with his crew; a background depicting why they're acting the way to do. And I have a feeling that seeing the reason for those bonds will be quite the read.
And before I forget to mention it- this week's colour spread was marvelous. I gladly changed my current wallpaper to it.
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I really want to know why DD's crew is that loyal towards him. He's being portrayed as a gigantic asshole, a textbook example of a villain. But despite all the crimes he committed (and is still committing), the 'family' stays by his side, following him without any complaints, ready to even sacrifice their lives if need be. There have to be certain bonds Doflamingo has with his crew; a background depicting why they're acting the way to do. And I have a feeling that seeing the reason for those bonds will be quite the read.
And before I forget to mention it- this week's colour spread was marvelous. I gladly changed my current wallpaper to it.
. Maybe it has something to do with him having CoC
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I really want to know why DD's crew is that loyal towards him. He's being portrayed as a gigantic asshole, a textbook example of a villain. But despite all the crimes he committed (and is still committing), the 'family' stays by his side, following him without any complaints, ready to even sacrifice their lives if need be. There have to be certain bonds Doflamingo has with his crew; a background depicting why they're acting the way to do. And I have a feeling that seeing the reason for those bonds will be quite the read.
And before I forget to mention it- this week's colour spread was marvelous. I gladly changed my current wallpaper to it.
Well, Doflamingo has been shown more than once to genuinely care for his family members. He went out of his way to re-attach Baby 5 and Buffalo's heads to their bodies, he stopped his assault when Law used Jora as a shield/hostage; looked pretty affected when Monet was about to sacrifice herself. . .
Of course, that doesn't apply to those outside his family, as we saw back at Jaya how he made Sarquies almost murder Bellamy, or recently when he slashed that gladiator for not showing a bloody enough performance.
Bottom line: he's a twisted individual.
BTW, regarding Dofla's business: any clue what the "liberating islands" business that Sengoku mentioned during their meeting might be???
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Well, Doflamingo has been shown more than once to genuinely care for his family members. He went out of his way to re-attach Baby 5 and Buffalo's heads to their bodies, he stopped his assault when Law used Jora as a shield/hostage; looked pretty affected when Monet was about to sacrifice herself. . .
Of course, that doesn't apply to those outside his family, as we saw back at Jaya how he made Sarquies almost murder Bellamy, or recently when he slashed that gladiator for not showing a bloody enough performance.
Bottom line: he's a twisted individual.
BTW, regarding Dofla's business: any clue what the "liberating islands" business that Sengoku mentioned during their meeting might be???
that Could mean his weaponbusiness with rebels in various countries near dressrosa
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I really want to know why DD's crew is that loyal towards him. He's being portrayed as a gigantic asshole, a textbook example of a villain. But despite all the crimes he committed (and is still committing), the 'family' stays by his side, following him without any complaints, ready to even sacrifice their lives if need be. There have to be certain bonds Doflamingo has with his crew; a background depicting why they're acting the way to do. And I have a feeling that seeing the reason for those bonds will be quite the read.
And before I forget to mention it- this week's colour spread was marvelous. I gladly changed my current wallpaper to it.
Nothing strange there, no matter who you are in this world, there will always those that will follow you. Also, you are getting delusioned by Luffy's crew. Like Beckman said, Pirates are not saints. They are outlaws, the scum of the world.
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So if I'm reading it right the Donquixote offered the dwarves resources in exchange for labour.But then later on the family started exploiting them.After the Void century the Riku family took over.So I'm wondering where Noland comes into this.I mean he had a golden statue with hero written on it.Noland was alive approximately 400 years ago right.So this is the time during which Riku was in charge.But that means Noland came in during the time when they were peacefull.I'm guessing Noland did something in relation to the plants growing on Green Bit.
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So if I'm reading it right the Donquixote offered the dwarves resources in exchange for labour.But then later on the family started exploiting them.After the Void century the Riku family took over.So I'm wondering where Noland comes into this.I mean he had a golden statue with hero written on it.Noland was alive approximately 400 years ago right.So this is the time during which Riku was in charge.But that means Noland came in during the time when they were peacefull.I'm guessing Noland did something in relation to the plants growing on Green Bit.
nope,the dwarves specifically said that he helped them against human invaders.
probably,after 800 years ago the first king riku freed the dwarves,the memory about them existing faded (because they were "fairies" now,and the following members of the royal family didn't defend them anymore against other humans that might have been arrived to green bit,and that's where Noland arrived and saved them -
nope,the dwarves specifically said that he helped them against human invaders.
probably,after 800 years ago the first king riku freed the dwarves,the memory about them existing faded (because they were "fairies" now,and the following members of the royal family didn't defend them anymore against other humans that might have been arrived to green bit,and that's where Noland arrived and saved themOh thanks I must have missed it when they said that.So basically after the first few descendants of the Riku family,none of them knew about the dwarves?
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Oh thanks I must have missed it when they said that.So basically after the first few descendants of the Riku family,none of them knew about the dwarves?
we don't know for sure,but seems the only explanation about why they didn't get any help from the royal family and had to wait for noland to show up.
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nope,the dwarves specifically said that he helped them against human invaders.
probably,after 800 years ago the first king riku freed the dwarves,the memory about them existing faded (because they were "fairies" now,and the following members of the royal family didn't defend them anymore against other humans that might have been arrived to green bit,and that's where Noland arrived and saved themMaybe 400 years ago the Donquixote Family tried to take back Dressrosa like "Mingo" did 10 years ago and Norland helped the dwarfs to stop them: makes sense on the little info provided so far, IMO.
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@HTC:
Maybe 400 years ago the Donquixote Family tried to take back Dressrosa like "Mingo" did 10 years ago and Norland helped the dwarfs to stop them: makes sense on the little info provided so far, IMO.
naah,the donquixote family was happy at marijoa for the last 800 years IMHO…there doesn't seem any reason for people who have everything to go dwarf-hunting in a remote island of the new world
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naah,the donquixote family was happy at marijoa for the last 800 years IMHO…there doesn't seem any reason for people who have everything to go dwarf-hunting in a remote island of the new world
Info not yet provided: we don't know either way.
Possibly, Norland fucked up the Donquixote Family plans 400 years ago just like Luffy's about to do for "Mingo's" plans.
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@HTC:
Maybe 400 years ago the Donquixote Family tried to take back Dressrosa like "Mingo" did 10 years ago and Norland helped the dwarfs to stop them: makes sense on the little info provided so far, IMO.
Yeah it makes lots of sense that Norland would defy World Nobles and live to tell about it, and not be an outlaw and be able to receive permission from Mariejois to go explore for Jaya later.
Actually it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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@HTC:
Info not yet provided: we don't know either way.
Possibly, Norland fucked up the Donquixote Family plans 400 years ago just like Luffy's about to do for "Mingo's" plans.
Info is not yet provided but its a logical assumption.
If said invader was someone with strong ties to the current arc, such as the Donquixote family, I doubt his family name was going to be left unmentioned.
See, when the dwarfs were talking about their history they mentioned the Don family name every single time they were relevent.
you need to ask yourself, if said invader was a member of the Don family, why was his name not mentioned? its not logical at all.
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@Monkey:
Yeah it makes lots of sense that Norland would defy World Nobles and live to tell about it, and not be an outlaw and be able to receive permission from Mariejois to go explore for Jaya later.
Actually it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Yeah, and that too. ^
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@Monkey:
Yeah it makes lots of sense that Norland would defy World Nobles and live to tell about it, and not be an outlaw and be able to receive permission from Mariejois to go explore for Jaya later.
Actually it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
He lived alright …
Didn't you see Norland's flashback? They got people claiming to be Norland's crew mates to say Norland lied to everyone. Was it solely because of the missing city of gold? Possibly, but we don't know, yet. Think "Spanda's" framing of Tom.
What if, just like "Mingo" who's now NOT a CD, 400 years ago someone from Donquixote Family did the same and that someone's the one who tried to take back Dressrosa?
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@HTC:
He lived alright …
Didn't you see Norland's flashback? They got people claiming to be Norland's crew mates to say Norland lied to everyone. Was it solely because of the missing city of gold? Possibly, but we don't know, yet. Think "Spanda's" framing of Tom.
What if, just like "Mingo" who's now NOT a CD, 400 years ago someone from Donquixote Family did the same and that someone's the one who tried to take back Dressrosa?
why wait when they can snap their fingers and get you hanged asap?
they don't need to frame you,they are the world nobles,they can shot you in the head while you are walking on street and nobody would have nothing to say about it. -
@HTC:
He lived alright …
Yeah, that's one of the reasons your idea makes no sense.
Didn't you see Norland's flashback? They got people claiming to be Norland's crew mates to say Norland lied to everyone.
Obviously you didn't see his flashback lolllll.
What the fuck?
Do I need to explain the plot of it to you? Because you obviously have absolutely no goddamn idea what happened in it except for some extremely fuzzy memories.Was it solely because of the missing city of gold? Possibly, but we don't know, yet. Think "Spanda's" framing of Tom.
Think Occam's fucking Razor, and stop trying to illogically twist the story to fit a really awkward unesscary theory for no goddamn reason other than you being stubborn as hell.
God I hope people like you don't intend to go into the sciences.
MY HYPOTHESIS DOESNT FIT THE EVIDENCE< BUT MAYBBBBBEEEEE…What if, just like "Mingo" who's now NOT a CD, 400 years ago someone from Donquixote Family did the same and that someone's the one who tried to take back Dressrosa?
So you're saying the unique personality and life story of Doflamingo, the fallen angel, the heavenly demon, the pauper prince, the noble pirate.
Happened already. For no reason other than it makes your terrible theory possible. -
why wait when they can snap their fingers and get you hanged asap?
they don't need to frame you,they are the world nobles,they can shot you in the head while you are walking on street and nobody would have nothing to say about it.True, but this way they got to completely discredit Norland which may have been their intention all along.
Just a theory, anyway.
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@HTC:
True, but this way they got to completely discredit Norland which may have been their intention all along.
Just a theory, anyway.
Do you not understand how theorizing works?
You test it against things, you DO NOT bend completely over backwards until all you have is nonsensical illogical ways it could work. -
haha this one is similar to the "Oda typed Admirals by mistake 2 times after timeskip(before their reveal) and its only 1 admiral because it fits my theory" nonsense
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haha this one is similar to the "Oda typed Admirals by mistake 2 times after timeskip(before their reveal) and its only 1 admiral because it fits my theory" nonsense
Yeah! I am sure Oda made typos before, that 100% provess my theory!!!!
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@HTC:
Maybe 400 years ago the Donquixote Family tried to take back Dressrosa like "Mingo" did 10 years ago and Norland helped the dwarfs to stop them: makes sense on the little info provided so far, IMO.
Its more likely that Norland cured some disease that was affecting them. He was mentioned as being the person who introduced the Dwarves to Botany, and given their relatively isolated situation, they wouldn't have been able to just get Medicine from Dressrosa.
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@Monkey:
Do you not understand how theorizing works?
You test it against things, you DO NOT bend completely over backwards until all you have is nonsensical illogical ways it could work.Simply put, you try to fit a puzzle piece in the right place, not force it with a piece that has nothing to do with it.
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Its more likely that Norland cured some disease that was affecting them. He was mentioned as being the person who introduced the Dwarves to Botany, and given their relatively isolated situation, they wouldn't have been able to just get Medicine from Dressrosa.
the dwarves clearly said the norland helped them against other humans..no desease involved.
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Simply put, you try to fit a puzzle piece in the right place, not force it with a piece that has nothing to do with it.
I'll have you know that forcing a puzzle piece into a spot where it isn't actually supposed to fit has served me well plenty of times, thank you very much.