So, the same guy who showed me that awful Karin scene some chapters ago told me I should check out this weeks Naruto, because it has one of my most hated characters being done very poorly, and man, he sure didn't exaggerate :D
It's kind of impressive how godawful the Sakura character is, I always thought she was worse than both Sasuke and Naruto, the absolute pinnacle of a worthless shitty character. And it's sad, because it seemed like Kishi actually tried to make her cool this time, but is so inept at this point that he doesn't even notice the fact that after giving her big "I can take care of my own" speech, she still gets saved by both Sasuke and Naruto. The absoulte worst
Nardo and Bleh Thread III: Naruto is a terrible terrible manga
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So, the same guy who showed me that awful Karin scene some chapters ago told me I should check out this weeks Naruto, because it has one of my most hated characters being done very poorly, and man, he sure didn't exaggerate :D
It's kind of impressive how godawful the Sakura character is, I always thought she was worse than both Sasuke and Naruto, the absolute pinnacle of a worthless shitty character. And it's sad, because it seemed like Kishi actually tried to make her cool this time, but is so inept at this point that he doesn't even notice the fact that after giving her big "I can take care of my own" speech, she still gets saved by both Sasuke and Naruto. The absoulte worstNot to mention Sakura is showing signs that she is still the same fickle girl she always was.
She never recovered from the insufferable and disgusting character she was in part 1. :getlost:
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Change it to just, "Ichigo wants to be Hokage," and I think we have our new thread title.
There you go :D
Also I heard that Whitebeard wants to be Hokage too.It doesnt matters if he is dead we can just resurect him.Also why would older dead hokages now go back to being dead?They are there.With 4 hokages semi invincible and soon they can add Tsunade to that list too + we have Jesus Naruto and Devil Sasuke so Leaf Village becomes the most powerfull village ever!
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People is she blushing?:ninja:
Didn't he tried to kill you? -
People is she blushing?:ninja:
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Didn't he tried to kill you?Yeah…kishimoto simply doesn't care anymore.
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Why do I get ignored every time I mention that Sasuke killed he Hokage, and he should be killed AT THE SPOT for that.
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@NER:
Why do I get ignored every time I mention that Sasuke killed he Hokage, and he should be killed AT THE SPOT for that.
Bro, we don't even remember Danzo, why do you think there's a possibility someone like Kishi would?
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@Aru:
Bro, we don't even remember Danzo, why do you think there's a possibility someone like Kishi would?
I thought that he was one of the few DECENT characters in the series.. Ya know, even some if his village people view him as the bad guy but in fact he put his life to protect the village.. but yeah, I guess I was the only one who thought he's cool. sorry for bitchin' :|
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Danzo wasn't bishy enough to care about.
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I'd prefer Danzou over Sasuke any day of the week. Sure, he had a disgusting arm full of eyes but aside from that he's a better character than the train-wreck that is Sasuke or Uchiha in general.
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I'd prefer Danzou over Sasuke any day of the week. Sure, he had a disgusting arm full of eyes but aside from that he's a better character than the train-wreck that is Sasuke or Uchiha in general.
Thats the reason I like him is.
correct me if I am wrong, but none of that shit he did to his body was for his own profit, everything was done to protect the village, no? -
Yeah, I didn't mean that you should stop and that no one here dislikes Danzo. I meants that people actually forget about Danzo being a Hokage at some point. Kishi didn't even try to bring this up, I have no idea if he ever explained why Danzo didn't get his face carved into stone in the village, like the other Hokages…
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@Aru:
I have no idea if he ever explained why Danzo didn't get his face carved into stone in the village, like the other Hokages…
Wasn't it because he was Hokage for like 2 days. The village had just been destroyed as well so I doubt they would have prioritised carving the Danzo's face into a wall ahead of rebuilding the hospitals.
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Wasn't it because he was Hokage for like 2 days. The village had just been destroyed as well so I doubt they would have prioritised carving the Danzo's face into a wall ahead of rebuilding the hospitals.
Yeah, but still, did the village even ever got to know that Danzo was the bad guy? If not - how did they take his death? Why no one even talked about this for a second? Yeah, they should be planning to kill Sasuke for killing the Hokage - if the village didn't know Danzo was crazy bad, then as far as they know Sasuke killed a perfectly good guy…
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They were too busy bowing down before NaruJesus, of course…
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You're right the village should probably despise Sasuke for killing their leader and should definitely not allow him back onto their side. But this is Naruto we're talking about, in the eyes of the leaf ninja they probably see Sasuke's actions as this:
"Sasuke killed one Hokage, but he brought 4 Hokages back to life.
-1 Hokage + 4 Hokage = +3 Hokage
∴ Sasuke = +3 Hokage
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But they wouldn't know that he technically allowed for them to be brought back. He only plucked a fresh Orochimaru. The 4th mentions that he was the one that rezzed them. No mention of Sasuke.
Also I'm a bit confused about the 4th…So he just hops to the battlefield does the dad embarassing thing by asking near by ladies if they are dating his son. But shouldn't that reunion be more emotional? Or was that weird piece of him stowed in Naruto (or was it in the fox?) that talked him just a projection or was that really part of his soul from the great beyond getting to commune with Naruto?
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@NER:
Why do I get ignored every time I mention that Sasuke killed he Hokage, and he should be killed AT THE SPOT for that.
@Aru:
Yeah, I didn't mean that you should stop and that no one here dislikes Danzo. I meants that people actually forget about Danzo being a Hokage at some point. Kishi didn't even try to bring this up, I have no idea if he ever explained why Danzo didn't get his face carved into stone in the village, like the other Hokages…
If I'm not mistaken, he wasn't Hokage at the time. He was just a candidate who had to act as a stand-in in the Kage Summit.
There was some shit about Jonin voting if they wanted Danzo to be Hokage but he died before that happened.
Not to mention that Danzo technically killed himself.
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If I'm not mistaken, he wasn't Hokage at the time. He was just a candidate who had to act as a stand-in in the Kage Summit.
There was some shit about Jonin voting if they wanted Danzo to be Hokage but he died before that happened.
Not to mention that Danzo technically killed himself.
Also not to forget he pretty much had to flee the meeting even before Sasuke came because he was using that eye behind the bandages to control samurai guy. Every kage at that meeting found out about that, we can assume the leaf were told somehow too. Though it's 99% likely everyone just forgot.
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If I'm not mistaken, he wasn't Hokage at the time. He was just a candidate who had to act as a stand-in in the Kage Summit.
There was some shit about Jonin voting if they wanted Danzo to be Hokage but he died before that happened.
Not to mention that Danzo technically killed himself.
I was going to say that this killing him is still a huge ass crime and Sasuke needs to be punished for it… but then I realized that you guys know about this already.
what do you think Kishi's explantion for not punishing sasuke for this is going to be?
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Also I'm a bit confused about the 4th…So he just hops to the battlefield does the dad embarassing thing by asking near by ladies if they are dating his son. But shouldn't that reunion be more emotional? Or was that weird piece of him stowed in Naruto (or was it in the fox?) that talked him just a projection or was that really part of his soul from the great beyond getting to commune with Naruto?
I'm going to chalk that up to "Naruto inheriting his Dad's personality" or something.
Oh, and something hilarious I just realized.
Madara killed a bunch of ninjas (including Neji) with those spikes.
When the 4th drops down and says, "Am I late?"
Naruto says, "Right on time, Dad"
Yeah, after the death of countless ninja is right on time.
And where the hell did Rock Lee go?
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Ninja 1: "Oh Sasuke, you killed Danzo? Great. He was a cunt. No one liked him, the bastard couldn't even count to 10."
Ninja 2: "That rumor was true?!"
R.I.P. Danzo, I'd call you mentally challenged, but mentally challenged people can count higher
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Im sick of Naruto. I think Im done with it. Who misses Digimon!?
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I'm going to chalk that up to "Naruto inheriting his Dad's personality" or something.
Oh, and something hilarious I just realized.
Madara killed a bunch of ninjas (including Neji) with those spikes.
When the 4th drops down and says, "Am I late?"
Naruto says, "Right on time, Dad"
Yeah, after the death of countless ninja is right on time.
And where the hell did Rock Lee go?
Oh yeah…they did lose...what 50k troupes? Possibly a few Kages and Neji...Maybe Anko...That guy in the wall is probably fine.
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@NER:
I was going to say that this killing him is still a huge ass crime and Sasuke needs to be punished for it… but then I realized that you guys know about this already.
what do you think Kishi's explantion for not punishing sasuke for this is going to be?
Well, Danzo was directly responsible for the Uchiha massacre and Sasuke, despite trying to get his revenge, technically didn't kill him, so I guess Kishi thinks Sasuke doesn't have to do much to escape punishment because he is "justified" enough.
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I'm going to chalk that up to "Naruto inheriting his Dad's personality" or something.
Oh, and something hilarious I just realized.
Madara killed a bunch of ninjas (including Neji) with those spikes.
When the 4th drops down and says, "Am I late?"
Naruto says, "Right on time, Dad"
Yeah, after the death of countless ninja is right on time.
And where the hell did Rock Lee go?
@DER:
Ninja 1: "Oh Sasuke, you killed Danzo? Great. He was a cunt. No one liked him, the bastard couldn't even count to 10."
Ninja 2: "That rumor was true?!"
R.I.P. Danzo, I'd call you mentally challenged, but mentally challenged people can count higher
Stop making me feel bad about liking him. :C
just kidding.knowing kishi, it's not a stretch to think thats going to happen.
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Im sick of Naruto. I think Im done with it. Who misses Digimon!?
I do! The first season is the first anime I've ever watched.
which is better, the Digimon anime or the pokemon anime?
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Digimon. Digimon at least had the decency to provide Closure!
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You're right the village should probably despise Sasuke for killing their leader and should definitely not allow him back onto their side. But this is Naruto we're talking about, in the eyes of the leaf ninja they probably see Sasuke's actions as this:
"Sasuke killed one Hokage, but he brought 4 Hokages back to life.
-1 Hokage + 4 Hokage = +3 Hokage
∴ Sasuke = +3 Hokage
Sasuke for Hokage!"Technically it wasn't Sasuke that brought the Hokages back to life. It was Orochimaru SOOOOO….IN THAT CASE Orochimaru for Hokage. I mean he pretty much did the same thing (indirectly killed the 3rd back in the day).
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They are at war with the two crazy uchihas and the juubi. They don't really have the time to be picky especially if he's comming with the blessing of the hokages. It's not like they fucking jump to sasuke screaming"welcome back" for god sake.Sasuke wanting to be hokage is plausible it sure was shown in a ridiculous sight. And it's funny how Sakura can't shine for a whole chapter is bound to beat fodders.Madara really can't get enough of that wood. He's actually watching his plan getting screwed up and only care for Hashi. A masochist I tell you.
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Wow 4th straight month of filler for naruto on tv
Studio Pierrot sure is torturing those naruto fans something fierce.
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@Venomous:
Wow 4th straight month of filler for naruto on tv
Studio Pierrot sure is torturing those naruto fans something fierce.
Big deal. Kishi's been torturing us with filler for way longer than that.
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Meh. Wasn't there like a huge gap of filler between Part 1 and Part 2?
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@Aru:
Yeah, I didn't mean that you should stop and that no one here dislikes Danzo. I meants that people actually forget about Danzo being a Hokage at some point. Kishi didn't even try to bring this up, I have no idea if he ever explained why Danzo didn't get his face carved into stone in the village, like the other Hokages…
being Hokage needs vote of approvals from Jounins…it was clearly stated in the manga...Daimyo(fire country leader) and his ministers can only nominate a hokage...Danzo died before the vote came up...so he was only a acting Hokage...
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being Hokage needs vote of approvals from Jounins…it was clearly stated in the manga...Daimyo(fire country leader) and his ministers can only nominate a hokage...Danzo died before the vote came up...so he was only a acting Hokage...
By that logic Sasuke could never become Hokage yet it's going to happen one way or another.
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Logic? What an odd word to use, when talking about actual Naruto… I thought login went down the drain some years ago: everything is possible, now, in narutoverse.
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By that logic Sasuke could never become Hokage yet it's going to happen one way or another.
The series is called Naruto for a reason. Naruto is going to be hokage. If there's one thing you knew from episode 1 onwards, it's that Naruto is going to be Hokage.
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Let's wait and see. I thought there were many things Kishi wouldn't do but he did. At this point it wouldn't surprise me if Sasuke became Hokage and Naruto his wife. Part 1 you say? Kishi forgot about characters from that time so why should he give a fuck about values or dreams?
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Not to mention kishi completely shitting on all the appealing themes presented at the start of this serie. The wholesome underdog and success through hard work? Right…
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The series is called Naruto for a reason. Naruto is going to be hokage. If there's one thing you knew from episode 1 onwards, it's that Naruto is going to be Hokage.
That reasoning stopped being valid with the start of part 2
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By that logic Sasuke could never become Hokage yet it's going to happen one way or another.
for Sasuke to be hokage Naruto has to die in this war…there is no other circumstances for him than that.....if Naruto indeed dies,then he would be the most likely candidate...for..
#he may have feats in this war saving countless lives which would act as a redemption(technically he killed only one innocent person,a samurai of Iron country during Kage Summit arc)...
#Naruto may wish him to be forgiven and given a chance which no other rookies or shinobis would be able to deny seeing Naruto sacrificed himself for the greater good of ninja world....moreover when secret behind Uchiha massacre will be revealed,he will gain much sympathy as a innocent kid caught in between ruthless politics...
#plus Kishi told in 2009-10 during Jump Festa that Naruto is not a Hokage material really..
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Not to mention kishi completely shitting on all the appealing themes presented at the start of this serie. The wholesome underdog and success through hard work? Right…
Yeah, Kishi pretty much threw this one out the window and killed it with a kitchen knife when he introduced the fact that Naruto can learn stuff with his clones. Super hard technique that the best ninja couldn't finish? Bullshit Bushin no Jutsu x 4000! A few days of work and the deus ex machina is ready!
Funny, this is a pretty god-like power, Naruto has Kyuubis chakra, so he can do a fuck ton of clones and learn pretty much everything there is in a matter of, maybe, a year or two. Also, anyone remembers that this technique was written on an ancient scroll AND that this scroll contained other secret techniques? What happened to it? It would be a nice plot point if someone did steal the scroll and Naruto and some other ninjas would have to fight a guy with these great powers.Oh, yeah, it's Kishi we were talking about, he probably forgot…
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#plus Kishi told in 2009-10 during Jump Festa that Naruto is not a Hokage material really..
To be fair….he's not. Naruto's pretty impulsive, reckless, and virtually knows nothing on how to run a village.
But is Sasuke really any better? Just pick Shikamaru and be done with it. :P
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@Aru:
Yeah, Kishi pretty much threw this one out the window and killed it with a kitchen knife when he introduced the fact that Naruto can learn stuff with his clones. Super hard technique that the best ninja couldn't finish? Bullshit Bushin no Jutsu x 4000! A few days of work and the deus ex machina is ready!
Funny, this is a pretty god-like power, Naruto has Kyuubis chakra, so he can do a fuck ton of clones and learn pretty much everything there is in a matter of, maybe, a year or two. Also, anyone remembers that this technique was written on an ancient scroll AND that this scroll contained other secret techniques? What happened to it? It would be a nice plot point if someone did steal the scroll and Naruto and some other ninjas would have to fight a guy with these great powers.Oh, yeah, it's Kishi we were talking about, he probably forgot…
It also means he had to work 4000 times more than others,as all the memory of the bushins go back to the original…he had extra power(Kyubi chakra),he worked extra hard too...
Kishi massacred the original theme by centering every powers around Uchiha and Senju...That totally undermined what Naruto fought for in his early years...
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I was going through this forum WIKI page and saw somehing about the attack you guys did on the naruto forum.. I wish I was there to see it.
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It also means he had to work 4000 times more than others,as all the memory of the bushins go back to the original…he had extra power(Kyubi chakra),he worked extra hard too...
Kishi massacred the original theme by centering every powers around Uchiha and Senju...That totally undermined what Naruto fought for in his early years...
Gotta catch alll the Senju DNA…
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@NER:
I was going through this forum WIKI page and saw somehing about the attack you guys did on the naruto forum.. I wish I was there to see it.
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Gotta catch alll the Senju DNA...
We did an attack on the Naruto forum?
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The whole theme of the unknown underdog surpassing famous clans with sheer hard work and willpower was already lost, as soon as we saw that Naruto's father was the 4th Hokage… not exactly a random, unknown dude.
Anyway, neither Naruto (an idiot) nor Sasuke (emotionally unstable) are a good choice, as a leader of a village... which is why one of them will succeed: the leaf village is basically the kingdom of Retardia, when it comes to make the right thing. -
The whole theme of the unknown underdog surpassing famous clans with sheer hard work and willpower was already lost, as soon as we saw that Naruto's father was the 4th Hokage… not exactly a random, unknown dude.
Anyway, neither Naruto (an idiot) nor Sasuke (emotionally unstable) are a good choice, as a leader of a village... which is why one of them will succeed: the leaf village is basically the kingdom of Retardia, when it comes to make the right thing.I don't think he being son of the hokage undermines the whole theme since Minato was famous by himself and didn't belong to a famous clan(I think) and since he was dead is not like naruto would learn anything from him what killed that theme on Naruto the characther was the revelation that he actualy comes from a famous clan that later on was revealed that was related to a even bigger clan that trascend from god itself of this universe, at least is the way i see it not to mention using this name clan name to protect him is stupid since said clan was "hunted" and no one could do 1+1?
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On a semi-related note….the villagers wouldn't have treated Naruto like shit if they KNEW he was the 4th's son from the beginning.
Seriously, who else has a spikey mop of blonde hair?
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I don't think he being son of the hokage undermines the whole theme since Minato was famous by himself and didn't belong to a famous clan(I think) and since he was dead is not like naruto would learn anything from him what killed that theme on Naruto the characther was the revelation that he actualy comes from a famous clan that later on was revealed that was related to a even bigger clan that trascend from god itself of this universe, at least is the way i see it not to mention using this name clan name to protect him is stupid since said clan was "hunted" and no one could do 1+1?
More importantly Naruto's mother was an Uzumaki, clan with magical immesearuble chakra almost as revered as Senju clan, Naruto's mother was also previous kuyybi host.
Naruto is a genetic super child, born with almost limitless chakra + nine tail chakra and his father was fourth hokage, surely he passed some good stuff to his son too.
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More importantly Naruto's mother was an Uzumaki, clan with magical immesearuble chakra almost as revered as Senju clan, Naruto's mother was also previous kuyybi host.
Naruto is a genetic super child, born with almost limitless chakra + nine tail chakra and his father was fourth hokage, surely he passed some good stuff to his son too.
The hair.
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On a semi-related note….the villagers wouldn't have treated Naruto like shit if they KNEW he was the 4th's son from the beginning.
Seriously, who else has a spikey mop of blonde hair?
That so far is the biggest plot hole I've seen since that reveal. The village loved the 4th. It makes no sense that Sarutobi would allow the villagers to shun the 4th's son. And that his mother is part of a revered clan that has the tradition of housing the beasts…It's very stupid when looking back on how Naruto was treated...Unless the 4th specifically thought...This is a character building exercise! I heard from my buddy in Sand Village that this is the way to raise strong, sane, well-adjusted children.