Sanji won't eat it, it would completely disrupt the happy rivality he has with Zoro.
What will happen to the Mera Mera no Mi?
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Well, it would make sense to have Sanji eat the mera² while Zoro learns the fire-cutting techniques.
In what way?
Like Clessenur points out below?…
For what reason?Sanji won't eat it, it would completely disrupt the happy rivalry he has with Zoro.
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Lol Sanji will become Admiral level just only by kicking? Not even fisting and kicking? I don't see that happening, every top tier so far except Garp have been shown to have a DF or weapon, none is top-tier by using their physical body for offense and defense(unless Sanji will be the first one). Well like me always say: if a Strawhat is gonna eat mera mera it will be Sanji but if its not a Strawhat then idk who will.
Additionally, since Jimbei's own fishman karate is apparently somehow more of a weapon than Sanji's Diable Jambe, how about the guy you mention right there in your post, Garp. He used his fists to take on the top, why can't Sanji use his legs? And speaking of top tier kicking guys, how about Marco? Sure he has the phoenix fruit, but his offense, that we've seen, has been all kicks, physical attacks and such. Why is this even an argument? Sanji shouldn't NEED a devil fruit to fight those at the top. I hope if he does eat it though, Zoro never lets him live it down. -w-
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@LUFFYSMC:
In what way?
Like Clessenur points out below?…
For what reason?Just how would it disrupt? The rivalry is more about their friendship, so I don't see what change it would have in that part.
Also, if Sanji gets the fruit and Zoro gets the ability to cut fire the only thing that would change in their interaction is… NOTHING! Actually it would even make it bigger, because now they would battle to see who will be better, Sanji's fire or Zoro's firecutting ability.
And since their new powers would cancel each other they would stay in the same place they are right now rivalrywise.So yeah, in that way.
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My theory:
Coby eats the mera-mera fruit
How? Read below
-Fujitora mentioned bringing several Marine Warships too DressRosa.
-Coby will be on one of the ships.
-Chaos will go down as soon as the Marines attack and all the pirates in the tournament start fighting.
-At some point in the commotion Luffy will escape with Ace's fruit.
-Luffy will meet Coby
-Coby shares his condolences about Ace and explains that he doesn't agree with the way Akainu handled things in MarineFord. Coby: ''The Marines should prioritze protecting the world, and not let people get harmed because of feelings of hatred''
-Coby will mention that he got stronger and that when he becomes an Admiral, he is going to change the marines into an honest organization that will protect the world.
-Luffy gives Coby the mera mera fruit. Saying that he can now see the same willpower as Ace has and that at some point he would like to challenge Coby and his will/conviction.Similarities between Coby and Ace:
-Coby was trained by garp just like Ace.
-Coby stood up against Akainu during the War, just like Ace did.And when the final war occurs, The government will be overthrown and Coby will be an admiral in the newly created Government under the jurisdiction of Fleet Admiral Aokiji.
And besides, all admirals got a Logia Fruit so far. It would be fitting for Coby too get the mera mera fruit as a legacy and a part of Ace and Luffy in the new government. -
^ ^ That would be really lame.
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I could see Garp showing up, taking the fruit and giving it to Coby
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@Gear:
^ ^ That would be really lame.
At the very least, it makes more sense then Sanji obtaining the fruit.
The fruit doesn't fit Sanji''s fighting style. Sanji only fights with his fiery kicks, a fire fruit doesn't add anything too that. And Oda will not alter sanji's fighting style, he will remain a leg-style user. Sanji already has a well established power/ability and he can grow out to become Admiral-level. For coby too become Admiral-level he needs an extra push. He is still only captain level. He needs a big boost if he wants to catch up too luffy and become Admiral after the next big war.
The fruit is a memento too Ace. Sanji has nothing in common with Ace. Coby has the same willpower, the same grudge agains't akainu.
If coby eats the fruit it could be the artifact that reunites pirates and marines to create a better world (the new government) A piece of Luffy and Ace in the government. A token of friendship between luffy and Coby that shows luffy supporting and believing in the new government lead by coby. -
At the very least, it makes more sense then Sanji obtaining the fruit.
The fruit doesn't fit Sanji''s fighting style. Sanji only fights with his fiery kicks, a fire fruit doesn't add anything too that. And Oda will not alter sanji's fighting style, he will remain a leg-style user. Sanji already has a well established power/ability and he can grow out to become Admiral-level. For coby too become Admiral-level he needs an extra push. He is still only captain level. He needs a big boost if he wants to catch up too luffy and become Admiral after the next big war.
The fruit is a memento too Ace. Sanji has nothing in common with Ace. Coby has the same willpower, the same grudge agains't akainu.
If coby eats the fruit it could be the artifact that reunites pirates and marines to create a better world (the new government) A piece of Luffy and Ace in the government. A token of friendship between luffy and Coby that shows luffy supporting and believing in the new government lead by coby.Just because Coby's gonna be an admiral doesn't mean that he has to get the mera mera no mi. And, Luffy giving it to him like that would mean digging his own grave. There are other ways for Coby to get powerful.
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My theory:
Coby eats the mera-mera fruit
How? Read below
-Fujitora mentioned bringing several Marine Warships too DressRosa.
-Coby will be on one of the ships.
-Chaos will go down as soon as the Marines attack and all the pirates in the tournament start fighting.
-At some point in the commotion Luffy will escape with Ace's fruit.
-Luffy will meet Coby
-Coby shares his condolences about Ace and explains that he doesn't agree with the way Akainu handled things in MarineFord. Coby: ''The Marines should prioritze protecting the world, and not let people get harmed because of feelings of hatred''
-Coby will mention that he got stronger and that when he becomes an Admiral, he is going to change the marines into an honest organization that will protect the world.
-Luffy gives Coby the mera mera fruit. Saying that he can now see the same willpower as Ace has and that at some point he would like to challenge Coby and his will/conviction.Similarities between Coby and Ace:
-Coby was trained by garp just like Ace.
-Coby stood up against Akainu during the War, just like Ace did.And when the final war occurs, The government will be overthrown and Coby will be an admiral in the newly created Government under the jurisdiction of Fleet Admiral Aokiji.
And besides, all admirals got a Logia Fruit so far. It would be fitting for Coby too get the mera mera fruit as a legacy and a part of Ace and Luffy in the new government.I have pretty much thought's but still not SO sure about this. Mera mera doensn't maybe fit so well to Coby. It was perfect to Ace because it symbolized his whole personality. Coby is more calm, not so temperament person. Oda always make's sure that fruit fits to the user. I think this is the reason why Coby will not eat Mera mera no Mi.
Im pretty sure some new "D" will eat it. Of course i hope im wrong ;)
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@Gear:
Just because Coby's gonna be an admiral doesn't mean that he has to get the mera mera no mi. And, Luffy giving it to him like that would mean digging his own grave. There are other ways for Coby to get powerful.
Luffy diggin his own grave sounds just like him.
All that matters is that luffy respects Coby and sees him as a friend. Luffy would only smile at the challenge of a fight with someone strong whom he respects, you might even go as far in saying that it would be like settling the rivalry between ace and luffy.
In the Last chapter of one piece (After the war is finished and Coby is admiral) there might be a final friendly rival battle between Luffy and Coby.
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How can you claim the Mera Mera wont fit Sanji's style.
I can understand if you personally don't want him to get it , but to try to use that as an argument is ludicrous.
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Luffy will bury the Mere Mera in soft soil and will grow a tree of Mera Mera and everyone can have one. The End.
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I could see Garp showing up, taking the fruit and giving it to Coby
He's retired and chilling in WG land now so not anytime soon.
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One of the few things I actually like about Sanji is his fighting style. I think he should just stick to using his legs, I mean the dude is pretty much already a 'leg man'. Just keep it up and he'll become as strong as he needs to be without resorting to using his fists or using a DF. Just ain't his style man.
He's retired and chilling in WG land now so not anytime soon.
I don't think his little theory is gonna happen but still we'll def see more of Garp. Being retired from the marines doesn't mean he won't wanna have a nice little scuffle or two every now and then. I'm looking forward to how seeing Luffy will react to next time they meet. My guess is it's gonna be a love/hate situation.
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How can you claim the Mera Mera wont fit Sanji's style.
I can understand if you personally don't want him to get it , but to try to use that as an argument is ludicrous.
It won't fit Sanji's fighting style because so far everything he's done has been without projectiles. Ace used his fingers like pistols, shot out little flaming fire flies, and had "laser guided" cross beams, threw flaming lances and created one heck of a giant fire ball. Going from esclusively bashing and burning people with amazingly strong legs to that would detract from everything he's accomplished in his fighting style. The day Sanji can be stationary while fighting and not getting in the face of the enemy is the day Oda has lost it.
Now when and if he develops CoC, then its ok to defeat enemies without lifting a finger.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v46/c441/16.html
Replace Ace's hand with Sanji doing his standing split and you still don't have the Sanji we see today. This isn't and will never be Sanji.
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None of the strawhats will eat the fruit. That's for sure.
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It won't fit Sanji's fighting style because so far everything he's done has been without projectiles. Ace used his fingers like pistols, shot out little flaming fire flies, and had "laser guided" cross beams, threw flaming lances and created one heck of a giant fire ball. Going from esclusively bashing and burning people with amazingly strong legs to that would detract from everything he's accomplished in his fighting style. The day Sanji can be stationary while fighting and not getting in the face of the enemy is the day Oda has lost it.
Now when and if he develops CoC, then its ok to defeat enemies without lifting a finger.
Don't reply to someone who can't read, it's a waste of time.
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@Fleet-Admiral:
I have pretty much thought's but still not SO sure about this. Mera mera doensn't maybe fit so well to Coby. It was perfect to Ace because it symbolized his whole personality. Coby is more calm, not so temperament person. Oda always make's sure that fruit fits to the user. I think this is the reason why Coby will not eat Mera mera no Mi.
This is far-fetched, but Oda might go down the ''''Avatar: The Last Airbender'' Road.
In which fire can symbolize different things:
-Ace used his fire too symbolize hot headedness, aggresion and stubborness (in a cool manner ofcourse, not bashing Ace, I love him)
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It won't fit Sanji's fighting style because so far everything he's done has been without projectiles. Ace used his fingers like pistols, shot out little flaming fire flies, and had "laser guided" cross beams, threw flaming lances and created one heck of a giant fire ball. Going from esclusively bashing and burning people with amazingly strong legs to that would detract from everything he's accomplished in his fighting style. The day Sanji can be stationary while fighting and not getting in the face of the enemy is the day Oda has lost it.
Now when and if he develops CoC, then its ok to defeat enemies without lifting a finger.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v46/c441/16.html
Replace Ace's hand with Sanji doing his standing split and you still don't have the Sanji we see today. This isn't and will never be Sanji.
I disagree , Sanji will eventually use projectiles and they'll be fire based unless Oda for some reason retcon's his Fire abilities.
If he develops CoC he'll one shot fodder Romance, I'm thinking more along the lines of actual opponents who pose a threat.Ace didn't always have the Mera Mera dude , remember that he was initially a fist fighter like Garp and Luffy.
I understand that you don't think Sanji will eat it , but I don't see much evidence to suggest that he would totally adopt Ace's
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Coby doesn't need a devil fruit, He takes after Garp. He relies on brute strength and Haki in combat.
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I like how people dismiss Sanji as a candidate because it "doesn't suit him" even despite his fire theme, struggle in the NW and 99,9% chance of getting stabbed in this arc. But for some reason consider Coby to be the most likely to get it. Coby, who alongside with Helmeppo, makes a parallel/successors of Garp and Bogart who have no DF and seem to be owning people left and right anyway. Seriously, Coby doesn't need a DF, he's going to be fighting like Garp. No DF, just badassery.
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his fire theme, struggle in the NW and 99,9% chance of getting stabbed in this arc.
No, no and no. Try again.
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I say there's a brawl and someone takes a bite out of it in the midst of it all.
My second standing theory is that Luffy will attain that power somehow, eventually.
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@Rotten:
My second standing theory is that Luffy will attain that power somehow, eventually.
This is absolutely not happening at all.
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Just how would it disrupt? The rivalry is more about their friendship, so I don't see what change it would have in that part.
Also, if Sanji gets the fruit and Zoro gets the ability to cut fire the only thing that would change in their interaction is… NOTHING!Then going by that thinking, your thinking, if it changes nothing 'in their interaction'; then why want it to be done at all?
Actually it would even make it bigger, because now they would battle to see who will be better, Sanji's fire or Zoro's firecutting ability.
And since their new powers would cancel each other they would stay in the same place they are right now rivalrywise.So yeah, in that way.
Way I see it, fire vs fire-cutting; becomes just like Akainu's ability vs Ace's. The superior wins every time. Thus Zoro's cutting what Sanji would now be made of wins every time. So why would their powers cancel each other out?
And the whole Zoro definitively wins every time, takes away from the "friendly rivalry" concept IMHO.I like how people dismiss Sanji as a candidate because it "doesn't suit him" even despite his fire theme, struggle in the NW and 99,9% chance of getting stabbed in this arc.
In a more 'polite way' than Strelok, That's a POV, also a POV, and what does getting stabbed really mean? Robin, and Nami have both been stabbed, yet Sanji needs a fruit to 'heal from stabbing'?
With Coby, just don't care either way. Sanji is 1 of the guys we see daily, and have been seeing daily; changes that don't really seem to fit him (his character, his personality), that we would have to see all the time afterwards, is just different from Coby who we will see a bit more, but no where near the constancy we'll see Sanji. -
@Monkey:
This is absolutely not happening at all.
Still a bigger possibility than Sanji attaining it…
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I disagree , Sanji will eventually use projectiles and they'll be fire based unless Oda for some reason retcon's his Fire abilities.
If he develops CoC he'll one shot fodder Romance, I'm thinking more along the lines of actual opponents who pose a threat.Ace didn't always have the Mera Mera dude , remember that he was initially a fist fighter like Garp and Luffy.
I understand that you don't think Sanji will eat it , but I don't see much evidence to suggest that he would totally adopt Ace's
style of fighting just because that's the way Ace utilized the fruit, who's to say he wont incorporate black leg with the fruit's ability?While I expect Sanji to develop gusts of wind like Zeff, possibly heat waves and CP9's kick as well, Ace and almost every Logia seen so far gives us a very good indication of what would most likely be done with the Flame Flame fruit. Oh he'll use his legs for sure, but now what, fire blasts that launch from his feet like a flame thrower that engulf entire fleets? He kicks flaming ducks into the air and allows them to rain down on opponents?
Then imagine if he didn't use any of Ace's attacks. How much of waist would that be to see those attacks from a very popular character only to not allow similar abilities to manifest in the story later? Who ever gets the fruit, I fully expect Oda to demonstrate similar attacks to Ace's as well as as new ones.
Sanji's fire has only complimented his style since it emerged during Enies Lobby. He is still the red leg fighter with a coat of fire, not fire itself. My basic stance is the Flame Flame powers would dominate his fighting style, a fighting style that has been developed since the east blue and only recently refined into something more with the time skip.
Sanji is just one of many characters to show proficiency in fire use. He stands among, Mariegold, Cigar Baldy who wields a flaming sword from the White Beards, Kinemon who also can wield a flaming sword, little big mouth Fishman, etc. I can't see any reason why he couldn't develop things further without actually becoming fire.
Then we have his secondary ability of not fearing heat and fire because he's a cook. That uniqueness would be lost if he was magically immune to all of it.
Lastly there is blue walk and mermaids, Sanji and Oda are not leaving those things behind.
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@LUFFYSMC:
Way I see it, fire vs fire-cutting; becomes just like Akainu's ability vs Ace's. The superior wins every time. Thus Zoro's cutting what Sanji would now be made of wins every time. So why would their powers cancel each other out?
And the whole Zoro definitively wins every time, takes away from the "friendly rivalry" concept IMHO.I don't see it as being an always superior thing. Yeah, Zoro would be able to cut any fire that Sanji throws at him, but that would make him win every time? It will just be a counter to the mera², not his kicks.
Also by implying that Zoro would always win by "cutting what Sanji would now be made of" means that Zoro would have to cut Sanji. And if that happens now Sanji wouldn't lose?But I get what you're saying, if Sanji is fire and Zoro can cut fire than just a wave from Zoro's sword would slice Sanji huh? No.
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If someone from the crew is to eat the Mera Mera that could be only Ussop.Let me explain:
First of all i disagree with the theories that Luffy can eat a second Devil Fruit. Blackbeard managed to do it thanks to his Yami Yami Fruit. He was chased it for 20 years because he knew that it has this ability. I bet that we will not see again a man with 2 devil fruits.
So we have Zoro, Sanji, Franky, Nami and Ussop.
Zoro is a swordman so a logia fruit would be useless for him. He should change all his fighting style.
Sanji could eat it and use it efficiently but it's a huge power up and he will surpass Zoro and probably even Luffy. Also he had declare that the only fruit he would sacrifice the ability to swim for is the Suke Suke no Mi (Absalom's Fruit). Ok Franky is just ridiculus and he has already denied it.
Nami could eat it but i hate the idea to have Nami giving serious fights. I think most of you will agree.
Ussop will definitely want it and it will be a good power up for him. In the New World a logia type does not means a lot if you don't have Haki so he will still be a weak guy. Furthermore, Ussop was always feeling bad to not be as strong as the other crewmates (that was the base of his fight with luffy in water 7). Of course he will be weaker than the Monster Trio but he will be able to fight a lot opponents they will meet.Actually i love the idea, but i don't want Ussop be "brave". Because we will lose all the funny scenes of his fear
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@Warden:
Blackbeard managed to do it thanks to his Yami Yami Fruit. He was chased it for 20 years because he knew that it has this ability. I bet that we will not see again a man with 2 devil fruits.
Blackbeard was able to eat a second devil fruit because of his abnormal body type, the Dark-Dark Fruit had nothing to do with gaining a second devil fruit,
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@Warden:
First of all i disagree with the theories that Luffy can eat a second Devil Fruit. Blackbeard managed to do it thanks to his Yami Yami Fruit. He was chased it for 20 years because he knew that it has this ability. I bet that we will not see again a man with 2 devil fruits.
Talk about stating a theory as fact.
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Blackbeard was able to eat a second devil fruit because of his abnormal body type, the Dark-Dark Fruit had nothing to do with gaining a second devil fruit,
Well now that i think it again you are probably right because of the Marco words in Marineford. But anyway i don't think luffy is capable of eating 2 fruits. I assume that the truth about Blackbeards ability to absorb Devil fruits will be revealed in future arcs. Jimbei said that he is haunting strong Devil Fruits. When luffy fight him he will have build a really powerful crew so i think it will be in one of the last arcs so we will probably wait many years.
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At this point everything about the way Teach attained a second ability and the manner is pure speculation. There's no evidence except that he DID it.
Before that chapter, anyone who theorized Teach would attain the quake ability would've been called an idiot.
What we do know is that the BlackBeard Pirates are actively hunting down ability users and stealing their powers. That tells us that what Teach did wasnt a fluke and he can do it multiple times and possibly teach the trick to other people. Obviously Oda is opening up a new frontier with this.
Will this be something only the BlackBeard pirates can do? That's the real question.
And as far as the Mera Mera no Mi goes, Luffy is the best suited for the fruit for several reasons. If you look at the big picture, Oda has plans for the multiple-ability trick.
Writing off the possibility of Luffy getting the ability is ridiculous.
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Well, i don't think that anyone else except Teach will eat two Devil fruits, not even from his crew. If this was just a trick that anyone can do someone would have done it before. Blackbeard is the only known person with more than one devil fruits and i hope it remains this way. The haunting of Devil Fruits does not means anything, it's probably to power up his subordinates. Kaido is doing the same thing with a different way. But i don't exclude the possibility that BlackBeard can eat multiple fruits….If this is happening then he will become a real monster.
Also i have the impression that Oda appreciates the slow and tiring power up for his characters. If it is everyone to eat multiple fruits and become strong the story will be ruined. However, i don't writing off the possibility of luffy getting the ability but i don't think it will happen especially so early in the New World Saga. Anyway if Luffy manage to obtain the fruit i want Ussop to eat it
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One thing is for certain, I definitely do not want to see anyone other than Blackbeard possess multiple devil fruits. The fact that it's been said his crew has been hunting users down to absorb there abilities puts me off a bit. Just doesn't seem like Oda's style after all this time to start breaking such an ironclad rule at least more than once for a simple way to boost character's power.
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I don't want to sound like one of those people. But I'm fairly sure if Oda has writen in a way for the Blackbeard crew to have multiple DFs then it's gonna not come off in a such a terrible way.
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@Warden:
Well, i don't think that anyone else except Teach will eat two Devil fruits, not even from his crew. If this was just a trick that anyone can do someone would have done it before. Blackbeard is the only known person with more than one devil fruits and i hope it remains this way. The haunting of Devil Fruits does not means anything, it's probably to power up his subordinates. Kaido is doing the same thing with a different way. But i don't exclude the possibility that BlackBeard can eat multiple fruits….If this is happening then he will become a real monster.
If they were hunting fruits in a normal sense they wouldn't be hunting the users, since they wouldn't know where to get the regrown fruits.
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@Monkey:
If they were hunting fruits in a normal sense they wouldn't be hunting the users, since they wouldn't know where to get the regrown fruits.
If the user dies then the power goes to the nearest fruit, right? So they just bring along some fruit xD
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If the user dies then the power goes to the nearest fruit, right? So they just bring along some fruit xD
The nearest fruit? The heck are you talking about.
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@Monkey:
The nearest fruit? The heck are you talking about.
She's probably referencing how Smiley's devil fruit transferred immediately to the nearest fruit.
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@Galaxy:
She's probably referencing how Smiley's devil fruit transferred immediately to the nearest fruit.
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Thinking that because SMILE works that way means that normal Devil Fruits are similar is really silly.
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@Monkey:
Thinking that because SMILE works that way means that normal Devil Fruits are similar is really silly.
It's not confirmed that Slime's devil fruit was a SMILE.
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@Monkey:
Thinking that because SMILE works that way means that normal Devil Fruits are similar is really silly.
Smiley's fruit is not a SMILE. It has swirls.
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@Monkey:
If they were hunting fruits in a normal sense they wouldn't be hunting the users, since they wouldn't know where to get the regrown fruits.
You forget the Yami Yami fruit. It's just an assumption but it could affect the place where the devil fruit will regrown or something else.
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Smiles fruits have spots like these
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/142851/one-piece_ch689_by_mangarule/15
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@LUFFYSMC:
In a more 'polite way' than Strelok, That's a POV, also a POV, and what does getting stabbed really mean? Robin, and Nami have both been stabbed, yet Sanji needs a fruit to 'heal from stabbing'?
With Coby, just don't care either way. Sanji is 1 of the guys we see daily, and have been seeing daily; changes that don't really seem to fit him (his character, his personality), that we would have to see all the time afterwards, is just different from Coby who we will see a bit more, but no where near the constancy we'll see Sanji.Perhaps I wasn't too clear… I just brought up Sanji to show that him, along with several other characters, have a better chance of eating it. Coby, on the other hand, is shown as a paralel to Garp and we, at this point, have no confirmation if he is in fact coming with the other marines. Yet, people consistently tend to come up with random theories about him eating the damn thing...
I don't really care if Sanji eats it or not although I do think he needs to show something other than speed and geppou because so far his struggling performance in the NW has been a little underwhelming.
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Additionally, since Jimbei's own fishman karate is apparently somehow more of a weapon than Sanji's Diable Jambe, how about the guy you mention right there in your post, Garp. He used his fists to take on the top, why can't Sanji use his legs? And speaking of top tier kicking guys, how about Marco? Sure he has the phoenix fruit, but his offense, that we've seen, has been all kicks, physical attacks and such. Why is this even an argument? Sanji shouldn't NEED a devil fruit to fight those at the top. I hope if he does eat it though, Zoro never lets him live it down. -w-
It seems you misunderstand what I'm saying, I said, if a Strawhat is gonna eat the mera mera no mi then is Sanji, my reason- Sanji is already the flame/fire themed guy in the crew, can't have another crewmate with mera mera cuz that person will easily overshadow Sanji flame/fire technics. So the Devilfruit can go to anyone cuz I don't care who but if its a Strawhat is Sanji who gets it.
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Perhaps I wasn't too clear… I just brought up Sanji to show that him, along with several other characters, have a better chance of eating it. Coby, on the other hand, is shown as a parallel to Garp and we, at this point, have no confirmation if he is in fact coming with the other marines. Yet, people consistently tend to come up with random theories about him eating the damn thing...
Okay, think I get it. Can understand that.
But on the other side I can see Sanji as being shown to be paralleling Garp also, but in a different way ( hear me out 1st); Not necessarily in terms of ideology, or morals/ values, w.e..
But more so in the sense of being (an unmodified by weapons or DF's) humans relying on very hard work, a bit of brains, and boldness to rival/ be 1 of the top in the OPU.
Just might think that might also 'lessen' Sanji's chances of eating it as well.I don't really care if Sanji eats it or not although I do think he needs to show something other than speed and geppou because so far his struggling performance in the NW has been a little underwhelming.
The "although" to the little "underwhelming" POV, is where the 'divide/ division/ split of similar thinking' comes in.
Being capable of denting a door that was supposed to be veritably invincible to blunt attacks, Having some1 other than Luffy fight what can be seen as the strongest of the opponents at/ on PH, at that time, (not Luffy, not Franky, and not Zoro), and also not having him clearly win nor clearly lose, and be shown to speak of underestimating being the main reason his usually very solidly reliable legs were overcome, And all this^^^ being done while Oda seemingly wants to still not straightforwardly give clues as to how much or little the SH's haven't been 'holding back'; would point to, at the very least "indeterminate", for either way, IMHO.I don't see it as being an always superior thing. Yeah, Zoro would be able to cut any fire that Sanji throws at him, but that would make him win every time? It will just be a counter to the mera², not his kicks.
Also by implying that Zoro would always win by "cutting what Sanji would now be made of" means that Zoro would have to cut Sanji. And if that happens now Sanji wouldn't lose?When talking about a guy composed of fire vs some1 that cuts fire, and that: "Yeah, Zoro would be able to cut any fire that Sanji throws at him" IMHO should/ would include yes Sanji's now Fire Body as well.
! Now I'm assuming since it's Sanji and Zoro, that Sanji won't just be like tossing fire fists in the air like Akainu, or like some demonstration, telling Zoro to see if he can cut that fire far away from him, so this(testing 'which is more effective', the fire VS the fire cutting), would happen in real battle/ skirmishes situations like what Sanji + Zoro normally/ regularly do.
! Can't say I know perfectly how logias would work, but I would think at the least, it's not easy, severely difficult, or perhaps even impossible to just be even the equivalent of a solid guy on fire, without haki. You would seemingly have to mostly choose, especially during a decent fight, whether to be solid or intangible, with an unknown control on the degrees of solidity. So kicking in a solid way to hurt/ push back/ crush, while also firing/ launching/ "kicking" fire attacks, not quite sure how possible that would be.
Continued below…But I get what you're saying, if Sanji is fire and Zoro can cut fire than just a wave from Zoro's sword would slice Sanji huh? No.
Sanji is flesh and Zoro can cut flesh. Has Sanji died yet?No Sanji has not died yet.
But if you notice in their little "friendly rivalry skirmishes", either Sanji dodges or stops Zoro's hands/ forearms/ arms before he can swing…Not saying that means anything as Film Z had him fighting a sword' edge just fine, without using the above^^^ methods.
Continuing from the point from the higher quote. For this:Actually it would even make it bigger, because now they would battle to see who will be better, Sanji's fire or Zoro's firecutting ability.
And since their new powers would cancel each other they would stay in the same place they are right now rivalrywise.to happen, especially the bold testing 'which is more effective', the fire VS the fire cutting would mean IMHO, Sanji no longer does the blocking or dodging and just gets cut to see which is better , or rather since I doubt Sanji would really be trying to burn Zoro beyond joke potential, I see it more as being reduced to if Zoro's good enough to cut Sanji's fire exactly how he wants to, in a battle.
With their usual skirmishes being up close and personal, not necessarily destroying the surroundings, if you're talking about even close to remaining the same/ similar then they should also remain close- up skirmishes. Meaning to some extent, yes, if Sanji's launching fire attacks, Zoro on the other hand can dodge, or probably more easily cut Sanji's attacks with a simple slice/ cut, out of his way. That would also make the 'test' more so if Zoro can cut Sanji's actual fire logia body. Assuming of course both are not really being serious using haki, ( which I do assume), they can go as long as they want with Sanji not dieing, but yeah he would also seemingly never win. Pretty much making the fights/ skirmishes more 'emptier' than before, in the way of losing the 'just joking' "friendly rivalry" IMHO.@Rotten:
At this point everything about the way Teach attained a second ability and the manner is pure speculation. There's no evidence except that he DID it.
Before that chapter, anyone who theorized Teach would attain the quake ability would've been called an idiot.
What we do know is that the BlackBeard Pirates are actively hunting down ability users and stealing their powers. That tells us that what Teach did wasnt a fluke and he can do it multiple times and possibly teach the trick to other people. Obviously Oda is opening up a new frontier with this.
Will this be something only the BlackBeard pirates can do? That's the real question.
And as far as the Mera Mera no Mi goes, Luffy is the best suited for the fruit for several reasons. If you look at the big picture, Oda has plans for the multiple-ability trick.
Writing off the possibility of Luffy getting the ability is ridiculous.
That doesn't really necessarily tell us that. That, The bold/ underlined is also pure speculation.