People often complain about slow pacing when it comes to the one piece anime adaptation.But I have to say extremely fast pacing is as much if not more of a turn off.Recently I tried to watch sword art's online and honestly the pacing was absurdly fast,it's really hard to enjoy series like that.
Things in manga/anime you're sick of seeing
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Here's something else I am sick of: redemption. There should be a limit to how much redemption there is. Kishimoto is at a point where any survival of Sasuke would be awful writing. The only decent thing Kishimoto can do with Sasuke is have him save Naruto somehow from Madara and not come back. A heroic heel face turn would be fine, but Sasuke surviving would not.
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I still don't get how Kishi's still at the top of the rankings.
Didn't everyone's narutard phase end years ago?
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I still don't get how Kishi's still at the top of the rankings.
Didn't everyone's narutard phase end years ago?
There are always new ones to welcome into the fold.
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@keizerking:
People often complain about slow pacing when it comes to the one piece anime adaptation.But I have to say extremely fast pacing is as much if not more of a turn off.Recently I tried to watch sword art's online and honestly the pacing was absurdly fast,it's really hard to enjoy series like that.
Well as with many things, moderation is usually the best route to go. One Piece anime's pace I haven't really cared about; the chapters are still so packed with events that only 1 of them can always keep me entertained. It's the direction I can't stand anymore. Sword Art Online's pacing was way too fast and left out significant portions of light novel material.
Optimum pace (perhaps even too fast) is the Hunter X Hunter anime. Covers all of the material (except some miniscule things, although I would've liked to see Killua and Gon kill those forest beasts in Greed Island) at a lightning-quick pace. Will the pacing remain the same throughout Chimera Ant arc? I certainly don't want the anime to end (it will though in no more than a year and a half and I'll cry bitter tears), but it's gonna happen. Maybe it was going so fast because it wanted to get to Chimera Ant arc, the previously unadapted material.
Now, in my opinion, slow pacing does not matter one bit to me as long as it's setting up a veil of atmosphere. You could take me through every millisecond of your story in slow motion as long as the atmosphere was phenomenal. One Piece's anime doesn't really set up a specific atmosphere for me anymore, and it's a pretty intangible substance.
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Optimum pace (perhaps even too fast) is the Hunter X Hunter anime. Covers all of the material (except some miniscule things, although I would've liked to see Killua and Gon kill those forest beasts in Greed Island) at a lightning-quick pace. Will the pacing remain the same throughout Chimera Ant arc? I certainly don't want the anime to end (it will though in no more than a year and a half and I'll cry bitter tears), but it's gonna happen. Maybe it was going so fast because it wanted to get to Chimera Ant arc, the previously unadapted material.
It better slow down the pace otherwise the series will either go on a long hiatus in less than a year or will have to make an alternate ending with the material from the chimera arc or the election arc.
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@keizerking:
It better slow down the pace otherwise the series will either go on a long hiatus in less than a year or will have to make an alternate ending with the material from the chimera arc or the election arc.
It won't though.
The end of the Election arc is a perfect stopping point,as long as you don't include the very last chapter and it's cliffhanger.
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I still dont know what "tsunderes" and "bishounens" and whatever the fuck they're called are. I dont intend on finding out.
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I still dont know what "tsunderes" and "bishounens" and whatever the fuck they're called are. I dont intend on finding out.
Bishounens are those crazily handsome/pretty boys we see in practically every manga.
Tsunderes are those girls that act bitchy towards the main characters usually but secretly like them.
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Bishounens are those crazily handsome/pretty boys we see in practically every manga.
Tsunderes are those girls that act bitchy towards the main characters usually but secretly like them.
Cyclone!! Lazy said he didn't intend to find out! You did that on purpose didn't you! I know you did 
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Gotta wonder how many 6-to-11-year-olds actually find this slag interesting, though.
Until kids become teenagers, and perhaps for a while after, they really have no sense of taste at all. They will watch anything. And, at least in the U.S., Naruto is a huge, HUGE step up from the stuff they show on Disney or Nickelodeon or most of Cartoon Network. Continual narrative, characters that have some depth to them, tons of interesting abilities that are incorporated into tons of interesting fight scenes. And remember, Naruto WAS a very good show for a long time. Kids would be all over that.
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How could I not?~ If he didn't want to know all he had to do was not post lol.
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I still don't get how Kishi's still at the top of the rankings.
Didn't everyone's narutard phase end years ago?
Well if Kishi's Naruto and Kubo's Bleach don't belong at the top of the rankings, then what does?
Only a warrior chooses pacifism; others are condemned to it.
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Until kids become teenagers, and perhaps for a while after, they really have no sense of taste at all. They will watch anything. And, at least in the U.S., Naruto is a huge, HUGE step up from the stuff they show on Disney or Nickelodeon or most of Cartoon Network. Continual narrative, characters that have some depth to them, tons of interesting abilities that are incorporated into tons of interesting fight scenes. And remember, Naruto WAS a very good show for a long time. Kids would be all over that.
But we're talking about kids who's first experience with the manga are probably the current chapters/episode (since Japan rarely does reruns). It doesn't matter if it used to be good; right now it's near constant philosophical bullhonkey that drags on and oooon and OOOOOON. Most kids aren't going to go back and be nostalgic about what could've been.
And what does how it's doing in America have to do with anything? Bleach is also popular there and had really awesome potential from the getgo, but I don't see it staying in the top 5 despite its current level of quality.
I'd understand if it was like Toriko and was flashy enough to keep kids' attention regardless of story quality, but as it is? nope.
Well if Kishi's Naruto and Kubo's Bleach don't belong at the top of the rankings, then what does?
Aside from the beginning of the Kenpachi-Unohana fight, Bleach hasn't been on top in a loooooooooong time.
There's absolutely no reason for Naruto to rank above Assclass. Ever. Toriko is fun enough to make up for its lack of story quality. And while I'm not a fan, Soma has the ~shonen spirit~ to attract people. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason most of the comedy series are in the middle-to-lower part of the rankings (and not above Naruto unless something really radical happens) is because they split the votes for fans of the genre (since it's not as popular as the battle genre). I've also heard good things about Kuroko and HQ (though I admit I haven't gotten around to reading them yet).
Heck, I'd even put World Trigger above it at this point.
(I wouldn't put it in the bottom 5, tho. Kochikame's not going anywhere. Cross Manage is just in the wrong magazine, and the other three are garbage).
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Well if Kishi's Naruto and Kubo's Bleach don't belong at the top of the rankings, then what does?
Ass Class and Toriko
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But we're talking about kids who's first experience with the manga are probably the current chapters/episode (since Japan rarely does reruns). It doesn't matter if it used to be good; right now it's near constant philosophical bullhonkey that drags on and oooon and OOOOOON. Most kids aren't going to go back and be nostalgic about what could've been.
Once a person sees a bit of a story, and notes that it's good, they tend to want to start from the beginning. At least for surface appearances, Naruto could still appear to be good enough to get people to look back at earlier volumes, which would hook them.
And what does how it's doing in America have to do with anything? Bleach is also popular there and had really awesome potential from the getgo, but I don't see it staying in the top 5 despite its current level of quality.
I'm not well versed in what exactly the average kid watches in Japan. I just figured that a similar thing could happen in Japan.
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You're overthinking this, guys. Kids like it because it's cooooool.
BLEACH stopped being cool a long time ago since it's bogged itself down with OMG ART. Naruto still has superficial coolness with giant monsters and sexy boys whose pain is so so real.
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But even when I was a stupid middle schooler, I could tell something was wrong with post-timeskip Naruto.
It's not the plot elements; it's how they're executed. It's taaaaakiiiiing soooooo looooong and dragging slower than a snail in a vat of molasses, and I don't see how it could hold a kid's attention for very long.
Once a person sees a bit of a story, and notes that it's good, they tend to want to start from the beginning. At least for surface appearances, Naruto could still appear to be good enough to get people to look back at earlier volumes, which would hook them.
But why would that make them consistently vote Naruto as their favorite in the weekly rankings?
I can see a few loyalists here and there, but aren't the surveys for that week's chapters?
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Yes, it is entirely unfathomable that others think differently than myself. Cannot imagine.
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Some people just have different opinions on the series, the quality of Naruto is entirely subjective.
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@Lazy:
I still dont know what "tsunderes" and "bishounens" and whatever the fuck they're called are. I dont intend on finding out.
I love you. Also dont go to TV Tropes if you VALUE your sanity.
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But it is a fact that kishi clearly gives a rats ass about his serie.
If Kishi really didn't care he would pull a Togashi by either ending the series with an abrupt and crappy arc or by taking multiple breaks throughout the series, but Kishi has stuck by Naruto and is going for the long drawn out conclusion so he must still care for it a bit
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If Kishi really didn't care he would pull a Togashi by either ending the series with an abrupt and crappy arc or by taking multiple breaks throughout the series, but Kishi has stuck by Naruto and is going for the long drawn out conclusion so he must still care for it a bit
He only cares to extend it since you know…naruto is a goldmine that he probably will never pull off again. The same goea for kishi. So yeah he cares for it since it rakes in a lot of money...but does he care to make it good anymore? Hmmhahaha...no.
In other words...where is the damn effort? We know kishi can pull off some great art and a decent narrative. Where did it go?
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He only cares to extend it since you know…naruto is a goldmine that he probably will never pull off again. The same goea for kishi. So yeah he cares for it since it rakes in a lot of money...but does he care to make it good anymore? Hmmhahaha...no.
In other words...where is the damn effort? We know kishi can pull off some great art and a decent narrative. Where did it go?
Nothing against you but I absolutely hate this kind of logic. I've seen this a lot of times in this forum but I can't understand it.
You think a manga sucks, that's fine it's your opinion. But why do you insult the artist behind it unless you have some actual evidence of what you're implying ?
I understand if you're disappointed because you think the manga had more potential. But instead of saying that the author stopped caring or think only about money, a more logic explanation would be that he wasn't talented enough to reach that potential.
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Sigh…do I REALLY need to post evidence:
Fine.
HERE: Kishimoto when he TRIES
Now does his art STILL look like this (heck, I didn't even the latter two were Kishi's work at first glance)? Go check up any Naruto chapter (NOT from part one) and see how they compare when he actually tries doing some nice detailed art. Also I really hope I don't have to go into detail about how his original story's themes, ideas, creativity, etc…has pretty much evaporated into genericness, retconning, and cheap thrills. Hopefully that speaks for itself (just...compare the character designs and their motivations in part one and two.)
Kishimoto is a skilled artist which should be pretty obvious based on his art. We know he is capable of writing a compelling story based on Naruto part 1. He could have ended his story long ago, but now we are drifting at a slug's pace in getting through it with pages upon pages of unnecessariness. But I will give Kishi credit that he's not Kubo (who shares the same flaws as Kishi but about twice as worse).
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First of all, you can't compare a single page art and a page of a weekly manga. That's simply not fair, and most artists struggle to draw the same details they can put in a single image on actual panels of weekly manga. And it's not an evidence, it's simply your speculation at best.
And I'm posting Oda's Xin for no reason other than the fact Kingdom is awesome.
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Well I could always go back and post some pages from Naruto part 1 since that probably makes more sense, but…I was in the mood for putting up some of Kishi's good recent art. Even though it is speculation, one cannot deny that Naruto is an incredible source of income (which its success MIGHT not be emulated by the same author afterwards) so continuing it would be a good financial move.
But you know what. Who knows? Maybe there's a mysterious assistant that left after part 1 that did the writing and details. So everything I could be saying is bullshit. shrug
Oh well, current Naruto sucks and its art is lazy in juxtaposition to part 1's. Oda's art probably raised my bar too high even though weekly stuff would be killer to any person. I mean, if you look at Oda's work there is clear demonstration of effort on a weekly basis, but I cannot feel the same could be said for Kishi's huge coloring book art. However, maybe Oda's not human so w/e. Everything said about Kishi could be the same for Kubo so there's no need to fault him either shrugPS: Seeing Oda's depiction of Kingdom makes me wonder how his current art would look if he tackled another genre.
PSS: I don't know Kishi, but he seems like a decent guy from what I've read. It's just that his current work lacks the passion from part 1.
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I love how staying true to the Kingdom manga, Oda's version has a man beheaded in the background.
Something he'd never draw in One Piece.
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Wow I didn't even notice that (even though yeah that beheaded guy's body is obviously on the right and his head is on the left). I was way too distracted by Oda's rendition of Xin (and the left hand is really impressive as well). It's attention to detail like that which makes me respect Oda all the more.
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HERE: Kishimoto when he TRIES
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I don't see how those are evidences that he stopped trying.
Sure, those are nice drawings but I don't see such a huge gap in art compared to the Hashirama vs Madara fight a few chapters ago for example.
But well, taste with art is subjective so it's hard to debate that point.We know he is capable of writing a compelling story based on Naruto part 1.
My point of view regarding the decline in quality in the story is completetly different.
You think he was capable but not anymore. My opinion is that he never was very talented. He's talented to a degree but not enough.What I think is that Kishimoto was just too ambitious in the world he started to build in Part 1. He never had the story telling talent to back up this ambition.
In Part 1, since he focused mainly on Konoha with few interactions with the outside world he didn't have much problems to tell a good story. It's easier to make a good story when the world you focus on is small.
His lack of talent started to show itself in Part 2 because it was time for explanations, fighting the Akatsuki, seeing the other villages, developing the many characters he introduced before…
All those thing were just too much for him and as a result we got that lackluster story.That's why I don't think he stopped trying to make a good story. He's trying but you can't expect him to reach a level he never had to begin with.
He could have ended his story long ago
I'm curious. When exactly do you think he could have ended his story ?
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I love how staying true to the Kingdom manga, Oda's version has a man beheaded in the background.
Something he'd never draw in One Piece.He's still got a goofy-looking horse though lol
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I don't see how those are evidences that he stopped trying.
Sure, those are nice drawings but I don't see such a huge gap in art compared to the Hashirama vs Madara fight a few chapters ago for example.
But well, taste with art is subjective so it's hard to debate that point.My point of view regarding the decline in quality in the story is completetly different.
You think he was capable but not anymore. My opinion is that he never was very talented. He's talented to a degree but not enough.What I think is that Kishimoto was just too ambitious in the world he started to build in Part 1. He never had the story telling talent to back up this ambition.
In Part 1, since he focused mainly on Konoha with few interactions with the outside world he didn't have much problems to tell a good story. It's easier to make a good story when the world you focus on is small.
His lack of talent started to show itself in Part 2 because it was time for explanations, fighting the Akatsuki, seeing the other villages, developing the many characters he introduced before…
All those thing were just too much for him and as a result we got that lackluster story.That's why I don't think he stopped trying to make a good story. He's trying but you can't expect him to reach a level he never had to begin with.
I'm curious. When exactly do you think he could have ended his story ?
Well said, I totally agree.
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But well, taste with art is subjective so it's hard to debate that point.
My point of view regarding the decline in quality in the story is completetly different.
You think he was capable but not anymore. My opinion is that he never was very talented. He's talented to a degree but not enough.His lack of talent started to show itself in Part 2 because it was time for explanations, fighting the Akatsuki, seeing the other villages, developing the many characters he introduced before…
All those thing were just too much for him and as a result we got that lackluster story.That's why I don't think he stopped trying to make a good story. He's trying but you can't expect him to reach a level he never had to begin with.
I'm curious. When exactly do you think he could have ended his story ?
Fine, no need to argue about the coloring book art.
Sigh…really don't feel like talking about the narrative but I'll just get it over with:
Naruto part 1 had a great set up (read ch 1 and compare it with dreck like HJ/WT/Bulge), interesting side characters, creative powers, intriguing world (at the time), and (MOST OF ALL) strong theme for a protagonist. Was this all based on luck then that the world he created happened to be conveniently smaller? No, I'm sure this was planned out well in advance before running out of steam (or boredom) through part 2. What happened to the story when it hit part 2? It turned into "easy shounen writing" mode where the protagonist is a messiah figure, villains become embarrassing archetypes, most (if not all) super power moves are explosions, and the secondary characters are reduced into either cheerleaders or occasional support fighters.
Part 1's popularity was not due to "lucK" (I attribute "luck" to something like Bobobo lasting 25ish volumes) or convenience that it was a smaller universe, but actual decent narration and development. The story didn't turn into "easy shounen writing" mode because Kishi is talentless, but because he probably didn't want to put the effort into realizing his themes (which actually take work to think out and make relevant within the narrative).
Where could Kishi have ended his story? Right before Part 1 by rescuing Sasuke, clearing up the Akatsuki stuff earlier, and making Orochimaru the final villain.
But hey, maybe you're right. Maybe Kishi was never talented to begin with. Maybe he had a mysterious assistant that was the creative brainpower for part 1 and suffered a fatal heart attack before part 1 ended. Who knows? Maybe that's why Wakatsuki's Rurouni Kenshin was so compelling while the rest of his series afterwards ended up lame. Who knows?
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This is not uncommon at all with manga writers though.
There are many mangaka that excels in opening plots and initial developments, but utterly fail in wrapping it up.
And the current phase of Naruto is definitely in the "wrapping it up" portion.There's a Japanese word for it - furoshiki wo tatamu - wrapping up a story to its end.
In fact there are only handful of mangaka that excels in both, Arakawa and Yaginuma comes to mind. Shin Takahashi is debatable.
There are many renowned mangaka that are criticized for not being able to "wrap", including guys like Urasawa and Minagawa.There's no indications that I know of that suggest Kishimoto lost his passion, or no longer cares about his work.
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Huh, didn't even know there was a word to describe that. Since it sounds like a commonplace phenomenon, I suppose it is probably safer to assume Kishi is suffering from that (though I'm still wondering why his art has become lazier since part one with missing awkward angles/proportions, shading, design, landscape etc…). I suppose not everyone is organized (narration-wise) as Arakawa.
PS: I still stick by my guns and say that Kubo's doing it for the money.
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This is not uncommon at all with manga writers though.
There are many mangaka that excels in opening plots and initial developments, but utterly fail in wrapping it up.
And the current phase of Naruto is definitely in the "wrapping it up" portion.There's a Japanese word for it - furoshiki wo tatamu - wrapping up a story to its end.
In fact there are only handful of mangaka that excels in both, Arakawa and Yaginuma comes to mind. Shin Takahashi is debatable.
There are many renowned mangaka that are criticized for not being able to "wrap", including guys like Urasawa and Minagawa.There's no indications that I know of that suggest Kishimoto lost his passion, or no longer cares about his work.
Only thing I can see, purely from readers perspective, is that he is struggling to wrap the plot he laid out, and seems to be rather lost. Like many others before him.Thanks. Your post resume what I wanted to say in a much better way.
I was about to give the example of Urasawa (20th Century Boys) as an example of someone starting a too promising story and struggling to wrap it up.
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Still doesn't make Kishi a talentless hack if you juxtapose his works with other series at their starts.
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What I think is that Kishimoto was just too ambitious in the world he started to build in Part 1. He never had the story telling talent to back up this ambition.
In Part 1, since he focused mainly on Konoha with few interactions with the outside world he didn't have much problems to tell a good story. It's easier to make a good story when the world you focus on is small.
His lack of talent started to show itself in Part 2 because it was time for explanations, fighting the Akatsuki, seeing the other villages, developing the many characters he introduced before…
All those thing were just too much for him and as a result we got that lackluster story.This is totally my problem with Naruto. World-building is wonderful when done properly, and One Piece is a great example of that, but with part 2 of Naruto, Kishi just seemed to vomit every single idea he ever had about this world onto the page in a relatively short period of time, leaving him way too much to handle and nothing else to introduce should the need arise. One Piece succeeds because there's still so much we have no idea about. So many mysteries about the history and races and islands and even present-day characters who've been talked about but never introduced. Naruto fails because there's nothing left to use, and it's been that way for a while. Every nation, every possible historical point or interesting flashback, every remotely relevant character in the world is already out there, competing for screentime.
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Well I could always go back and post some pages from Naruto part 1 since that probably makes more sense, but…I was in the mood for putting up some of Kishi's good recent art. Even though it is speculation, one cannot deny that Naruto is an incredible source of income (which its success MIGHT not be emulated by the same author afterwards) so continuing it would be a good financial move.
The art from pt 1 was something I enjoyed. I loved seeing scenes like the drawing of the village covering 2 pages. It would always blow my mind when I first started reading it. However I really didn't pay attention to the art after the timeskip. It was the storytelling that threw me out. I got caught up on how the pt 1 had Zabusa (sp?) and introduced the idea that ninjas that were traitors were put on a list to kill by their own villages. From Kakshi's behavior, we got the idea that its not 'cold blooded actions of a village' but a common for all ninja villages to do so. Itachi reinforced this view for me. Then we get Sasuke who not only was abandoning his village but willing punched his hand through his teammate. The do not put him on the list but try again later to 'bring him back'. For me its just blatant contradiction of earlier set rules and common sense,
@Aohige_AP:This is not uncommon at all with manga writers though.
There are many mangaka that excels in opening plots and initial developments, but utterly fail in wrapping it up.
And the current phase of Naruto is definitely in the "wrapping it up" portion.There's a Japanese word for it - furoshiki wo tatamu - wrapping up a story to its end.
In fact there are only handful of mangaka that excels in both, Arakawa and Yaginuma comes to mind. Shin Takahashi is debatable.
There are many renowned mangaka that are criticized for not being able to "wrap", including guys like Urasawa and Minagawa.
There's no indications that I know of that suggest Kishimoto lost his passion, or no longer cares about his work.
Only thing I can see, purely from readers perspective, is that he is struggling to wrap the plot he laid out, and seems to be rather lost. Like many others before him.Would this be why some lesser (well seems less in being known/popularity ect) titles suddenly drop without being finished? I know I had read some only to find out BAM! no more chapters.
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The art from pt 1 was something I enjoyed. I loved seeing scenes like the drawing of the village covering 2 pages. It would always blow my mind when I first started reading it. However I really didn't pay attention to the art after the timeskip. It was the storytelling that threw me out. I got caught up on how the pt 1 had Zabusa (sp?) and introduced the idea that ninjas that were traitors were put on a list to kill by their own villages. From Kakshi's behavior, we got the idea that its not 'cold blooded actions of a village' but a common for all ninja villages to do so. Itachi reinforced this view for me. Then we get Sasuke who not only was abandoning his village but willing punched his hand through his teammate. The do not put him on the list but try again later to 'bring him back'. For me its just blatant contradiction of earlier set rules and common sense,
Would this be why some lesser (well seems less in being known/popularity ect) titles suddenly drop without being finished? I know I had read some only to find out BAM! no more chapters.Nah it's a reason for long running titles to BAM finish because they don't know what to do with.
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Still doesn't make Kishi a talentless hack if you juxtapose his works with other series at their starts.
You're exaggerating what I said. I don't deny the gap of talent he has compared to the mangaka of the examples you listed. You could add a lot of mangaka to that list.
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Part 1 of Naruto should be blamed for some of Part 2's problems.
- No development for other villages.
- No other Kage was introduced (A dead one and Orochimaru).
I feel that in a world like Naruto, where the protagonist is not an adventurer himself, Kishi should've given other countries some time in Part 1 to get developed. (For connection's sake.)
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Huh, didn't even know there was a word to describe that. Since it sounds like a commonplace phenomenon, I suppose it is probably safer to assume Kishi is suffering from that (though I'm still wondering why his art has become lazier since part one with missing awkward angles/proportions, shading, design, landscape etc…). I suppose not everyone is organized (narration-wise) as Arakawa.
PS: I still stick by my guns and say that Kubo's doing it for the money.
It's easy to explain the decrease in art quality. He's getting older. Weekly manga creation takes tons out of you, you barely have time to sleep.
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Also, why would he want money? He's got plenty already, more than enough to set him for life. And it's not like he's going to write forty more volumes or something, he's simply written however much he felt he had in him.
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You know,it' feels kinda sad to have my perception of "the Kishimoto who simply doesn't care anymore" shattered like this,because that notion kind of held an implication that,once he's done with Nardo,he might create something in which he "puts his effort in".However,if one admits to himself that this is what Kishi amounts to in the end,then yeah,that kind of wishful thinking gets clobbered with an armadillo penis dummy.
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Kishi seems more like a kid procrastinating on an essay he has to do than a guy taking his good sweet time making parts because he gets paid by the hour.
Too bad he can't just end it and get to that mafia manga he wants to do.
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He simply lost his touch. That's all there is to it.
That makes far more sense than "haha he doesn't care anymore!"
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You know,it' feels kinda sad to have my perception of "the Kishimoto who simply doesn't care anymore" shattered like this,because that notion kind of held an implication that,once he's done with Nardo,he might create something in which he "puts his effort in".However,if one admits to himself that this is what Kishi amounts to in the end,then yeah,that kind of wishful thinking gets clobbered with an armadillo penis dummy.
You could see it another way.
Maybe next time he will be less ambitious and do a shorter manga with fewer characters in which he would be less likely to repeat the same mistakes.
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Aaaand Gargantia reminded me why I hate the trend of mechanical animation being done via CGI.
While it's true that not all of the CGI looks crappy,with some instances being at pretty decent(Macross and some rare cases even looking kinda great(Fate/Zero's CGI sequences),most of them don't,and it makes me all the more saddened when a particular show has good 2D animation to show alongside something that looks as if it came from a bad looking videogame.
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This may get me some flack, but this has to do a little more with One Piece than most other manga I've read. It's having characters pop out and say stuff that happened only a few moments ago.
"Ahh! He beat the pacifista in one punch!" Etc. Stuff like that.
I mean, in manga I could probably understand that better, what with manga being in black and white, and many of Oda's scenes being quite hectic. But there's no reason for the anime to adapt this sort of style. Anime can rely on the art of showing and not telling much better, since it's in color and easier to follow imagewise.
Now, I can't recall if I've seen other anime do this sort of thing, as I haven't watched many anime in some time, but I do feel that lack of show and too much tell is a bit of a problem in anime in general, causing stories to devolve to a lot of exposition dumps and the like and overall bringing everything down with it.
