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Well, he's a Jesuit, so at the very least there's the chance the church can get back to charity and giving to the poor and whatnot.
From the Guardian of all places. Conservative on homosexuality and abortion like practically everyone else that had a chance, but looks good on the poor at least. What I find interesting is that he's the first New World pope, first Francis, AND first Jesuit pope. I almost want to say he was a compromise candidate.
edit: Appears to be pro-contraception at least?
Hoping the new pope will have a new stance on abortion or homosexuality is pointless really.
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Soooo, a shooting happened a few doors down from where I live. They even had that area closed off (so I had to take a different route home :C).
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Great job VBulletin.
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@The:
I wish he looked more hispanic. :ninja:
How the fuck can you look Hispanic? It's not a race.
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@Foxy:
How the fuck can you look Hispanic? It's not a race.
More mestizo is probably what he meant.
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I'm disappointed that Emeritus II didn't make it (he has experience!), but regardless:
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Anyone here enjoy polandball?
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Soooo, a shooting happened a few doors down from where I live. They even had that area closed off (so I had to take a different route home :C).
Dude, I hope you're okay :O
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The new pope reminds me of quark.
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Good article about history education in modern Japan.
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@cooldud_21:
Good article about history education in modern Japan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21226068yeah, it's really sad, but japan really has a lousy way of dealing with it's past.
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Discuss
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@No:
Dude, I hope you're okay :O
Oh I'm fine. It happened while I was at work.
The guy holed himself up in a building for a long time, though. The police sent in a dog to see if he was dead, but it got shot. :[
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The new pope reminds me of quark.
Well…at least he doesn't look AS EVIL as Pope Palpatine.
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In other Argentina related news, the Falkland Islands had a referendum as to whether or not they should remain a British protectorate.
Of the 1,516 valid votes cast (two were left blank), 1,513 voted to maintain their current status while three voted against it. Argentina has responded by saying "Who cares what the Falkland Islanders think?"
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Seems to be lots of word fighting for little scraps of land going on
Must be that end of the world we're always hearing about
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http://itccs.org/
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Well…at least he doesn't look AS EVIL as Pope Palpatine.
but that was the best part about it.
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@OnePunch:
http://itccs.org/
Well, I would like to know more.That site seems realy biased on first glance.
Is this some sorta WPC thing only targeted specificaly at the Vatican ?
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In other Argentina related news, the Falkland Islands had a referendum as to whether or not they should remain a British protectorate.
Of the 1,516 valid votes cast (two were left blank), 1,513 voted to maintain their current status while three voted against it. Argentina has responded by saying "Who cares what the Falkland Islanders think?"
I wonder, what's so special about the Falkland islands that England and Argentina both want it so badly? Is there oil or another useful resource located on the island or is this simply a matter of national pride?
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I wonder, what's so special about the Falkland islands that England and Argentina both want it so badly? Is there oil or another useful resource located on the island or is this simply a matter of national pride?
National pride mostly. And oil.
Argentina has valid reason to consider the vote invalid, similar with Spain and Gibraltar. The UK took a part of territory that should be theirs (by territorial proximity) and then settled some of their own people there. Conduct however many referendums you want, those people are British, they are going to vote British.
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@cooldud_21:
National pride mostly. And oil.
Argentina has valid reason to consider the vote invalid, similar with Spain and Gibraltar. The UK took a part of territory that should be theirs (by territorial proximity) and then settled some of their own people there. Conduct however many referendums you want, those people are British, they are going to vote British.
If I squat in your living room, are you gonna ask me if I want to leave?There's a difference between "squating" and living somewhere for several generations.
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@OnePunch:
http://itccs.org/
Well, I would like to know more.ahahaha what is that website
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@cooldud_21:
National pride mostly. And oil.
Argentina has valid reason to consider the vote invalid, similar with Spain and Gibraltar. The UK took a part of territory that should be theirs (by territorial proximity) and then settled some of their own people there. Conduct however many referendums you want, those people are British, they are going to vote British.
If I squat in your living room, are you gonna ask me if I want to leave?Nobody was living there before lol. This is not some Israel/Palestine situation no matter how hard you try and strain it to be one.
Also territorial proximity is not an international rule of law, that's pretty crazy logic. Or are you trying to say the Falklands are in Argentina's national waters (they aren't).What barometer are you using to even decide Argentina has the right to these islands?
They were first settled on by the French and than the British, the French gave their stuff to the Spanish. Which eventually became Argentina, and both Britain and Argentina kept half-assed plans and settlements on the places, both aware and vaguely respecting the other. Eventually the British actually committed to it and colonized it with people rather than random port stuff or penal colony material.This was in the middle of the 1800's fer cryin' out loud.
This is like if yer great great great great grandaddy and my great great great great grandaddy found a creek in the woods and both set up lawn chairs there (my granddady got the chair from his friend Pierre), and visited every once in a blue moon. But then your granddady started building stuff there and taking care of the plants. My granddady didn't visit or bother with it until his death then, and not until me did his descendents. And then I try and claim the creek is mine and that you stole it 200 near years later because it's close to my house.
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There's a rock between Taiwan and Okinawa sitting on a pile of oil in the exact same situation
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The Falkland Islanders are about three-quarters British in origin and even the people of South American descent are primarily from Chile rather than Argentina. Moreover, even those people voted overwhelmingly to stay British and that's after Argentina has spent a few years claiming that the Falklands don't really want to be British and a referendum would prove that. It's not a situation where it's an uninhabited island where the argument is over undeveloped resources; hell, even the resources in the area were discovered by the British and any infrastructure to exploit resources has been put into place by the British.
On another note, Sen. Rob Portman (R. Oh.) has reversed his stance on gay marriage. He's now the only Republican Senator to support marriage equality, which was a decision that came two years after he found out that his son was gay. Portman voted for DOMA in 1996 while in the House and had supported a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
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This is a better picture of the Falklands situation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17045169. It's not as set in stone as you guys claim. Specifically the comment that both sides have comparable judicial claims over the islands.
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The people has spoken. Get over it you argies.
Nobody likes the jilted lover plotting revenge. I'll teach her to love me i will!
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@cooldud_21:
This is a better picture of the Falklands situation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17045169. It's not as set in stone as you guys claim. Specifically the comment that both sides have comparable judicial claims over the islands.
"Argentina says the principle of self-determination does not apply to the Malvinas."
lol at defending any country that whines about land over people. This is the absolute worst standard to apply to international relations, the worst. It's basically a green light for legal irredentism.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/15/cpac-panel-on-race_n_2886132.html
The South is diligient if nothing else.
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The white guy screaming at him early on has connections to the late Andrew Breitbart. If you know who that was. that won't surprise you. If you don't, consider yourself fortunate.
And don't worry, ladies, the Republicans didn't forget about you.
@Story:
The Republican Party continued its outreach to women and minorities Friday morning by featuring Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell telling a joke that compared former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with The Golden Girls. Speaking before a packed Potomac Ballroom at the Conservative Political Action Conference, McConnell said “Don’t tell me the Democrats are the party of the future, when their presidential ticket for 2016 is shaping up to look like a rerun of The Golden Girls.”
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Republicans to scratch heads and wonder why they will lose the 2016 election, and the 2020 election, and the 2024 election…
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Dear republican party reps…stop hiring monkeys into your public relations staff. Kay?
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It's almost adorable how inept they are at this point
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So any word on the goings on in Cyprus ? I mean, I honestly didn't think it was even acceptable under international law to nationalise up to 10 % of people's bank savings to "gather revenue", as in stealing the people's money when they have not agreed to give it to you ?
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The white guy screaming at him early on has connections to the late Andrew Breitbart. If you know who that was. that won't surprise you. If you don't, consider yourself fortunate.
And don't worry, ladies, the Republicans didn't forget about you.
http://www.theonion.com/video/republicans-reach-out-to-women-with-new-no-punch-p,31381/
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@No:
So any word on the goings on in Cyprus ? I mean, I honestly didn't think it was even acceptable under international law to nationalise up to 10 % of people's bank savings to "gather revenue", as in stealing the people's money when they have not agreed to give it to you ?
The original deal was 40%, it was argued down to 6%.
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@Monkey:
http://www.theonion.com/video/republicans-reach-out-to-women-with-new-no-punch-p,31381/
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The original deal was 40%, it was argued down to 6%.
But still how the hell does a goverment have the right to unanimously declare it will seize up to 6/9 % of all it's citizens bank acount funds, without any form of consent ? How can these people be made responsible by not only paying income taxes from that money, but also having a retroactive "tax" applied to all of their saved up money left after the first taxation, without any form of consent ? How can this be legal under international law ?
Also I understand they intentionaly made it so people wouldn't be able to withdraw their money until after they stole this amount from them ? And yes, I am saying "stole" because that's what it is, from everything I read.
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@No:
But still how the hell does a goverment have the right to unanimously declare it will seize up to 6/9 % of all it's citizens bank acount funds, without any form of consent ? How can these people be made responsible by not only paying income taxes from that money, but also having a retroactive "tax" applied to all of their saved up money left after the first taxation, without any form of consent ? How can this be legal under international law ?
Draconian as it is, it's still a tax when you get down to it. And it was agreed upon by elected officials. I think the bank in question is state owned as well? Though I might be wrong on that.
Also I understand they intentionaly made it so people wouldn't be able to withdraw their money until after they stole this amount from them ? And yes, I am saying "stole" because that's what it is, from everything I read.
You'll have to talk to Chrissie about that side of things.
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@Cyan:
Republicans to scratch heads and wonder why they will lose the 2016 election, and the 2020 election, and the 2024 election…
There are quite a few of them that understand this but can't make themselves heard over the racist and sexist elements of the party. They can't even hold an actual discussion over the issue since it turns out the way the CPAC panel on race did.
Worse for the Republicans is the fact that they can't really expel these elements from their party since there is no way for them to replace those votes. They've spent the last few years alienating Hispanics and women and adopting positions that will make them appeal more to the youth vote will hurt them with their older voters.
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There are quite a few of them that understand this but can't make themselves heard over the racist and sexist elements of the party. They can't even hold an actual discussion over the issue since it turns out the way the CPAC panel on race did.
Worse for the Republicans is the fact that they can't really expel these elements from their party since there is no way for them to replace those votes. They've spent the last few years alienating Hispanics and women and adopting positions that will make them appeal more to the youth vote will hurt them with their older voters.
They're fucked. Chris Christie wasn't invited and Sarah Palin is like a keynote speaker. Not even some modern clownish idiot, SARAH FOUR YEARS AGO PALIN lol.
EDIT: Also Donald Trump was invited ahahaha
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Taxing people on their savings? Man not even our communists are that creative.
Hope they lynch their officials. Old fashioned mob with pitchforks and torches
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@Monkey:
Draconian as it is, it's still a tax when you get down to it. And it was agreed upon by elected officials. I think the bank in question is state owned as well? Though I might be wrong on that.
But you're taxing something you've already taxed, and applying said tax retroactively.
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@Monkey:
They're fucked. Chris Christie wasn't invited
Christie participated in thought crime by accepting government assistance during Sandy; his chances of winning on a national level as a Republican are dead.
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@wolfwoof:
Taxing people on their savings? Man not even our communists are that creative.
Hope they lynch their officials. Old fashioned mob with pitchforks and torches
Oh, no no no~ The communist government got out 15 days ago and now we have Democrats in power. Thing is, before the Communist president left, in the first talks about the loan, a 40% tax on people's savings was set down and at the end he broke off talk because of the Troika asking for natural gas. Not for the people's savings, no. For the Natural Gas. And also to be able to say 'IT WASN'T ME WHO MADE THIS MESS' even though he and his government was what brought to ruin the country. In five years, Christophias, the Communist president did this:
-Gave extravagant amounts of money to Turk-Cypriots (to get their votes - Each couple would get about 10 000 euro PER MONTH - seen a check with my own eyes so I know it to be true) and cut off money that was going to Greek Cypriot families that needed it (my mom from 100 euro she'd get per month for my sister - crumbs really - she'd get 70 and then they stopped it for a while (not for the Turk-Cypriots), so I know that to be true as well)
-Exploded the main Electric station of Cyprus, throwing the country in darkness for weeks and also causing the price of Electricity to raise to ridiculous amounts (my parents pay now 800 euro electricity every two months. 800 euro they don't have. They used to pay like… 200-300 max) and killed 13 people in the process.
-Fired and hired new ministers ON PURPOSE so they'd also get minister retirement pay (which is like... 5-6 thousand euro per month) when the Government changed.
-Lend ridiculous money to Greece that they can't give us back right now
So no. The current government isn't ruining the country or deserves to be lynched. It's doing it's best to save it in the least painful way from the hell the previous Communist government pushed it in with their dumbassery. It was either that or Anastasiades, the current president, being forced into blowing up all of the country's banks (and ALL of the people's money) and sending over 8000 families in the streets with no jobs by the 'esteemed' Troika. The bad guys are not the Cypriot government here. They have NO choice but to go with this route least they face with bankruptcy. We were given ONLY two choices. They went with the one that wouldn't ruin the country but sent it off into tightening its belt a bit instead.
This headless panic that happened today, was because people don't know how to listen and because most of them got scared by the Communist party who keeps sending out false information and shit.
I will keep you guys informed with any details that get released tonight with the President's speech.
PS: I have NO money in the bank and neither do my parents so 8D It's good to be poor sometimes rofl!
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@Monkey:
EDIT: Also Donald Trump was invited ahahaha
So what's this guy's reputation over there at home?
Because I kinda recall our president and the previous ruling party making so much deal out of "DONALD TRUMP!He came over and said we're doing awesome,so we're doing awesome,because DONALD TRUMP!He'd be investing in the country and building TRUMP TOWERS and shit be gold man!DONALD TRUMP!" back in the day.
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So what's this guy's reputation over there at home?
Because I kinda recall our president and the previous ruling party making so much deal out of "DONALD TRUMP!He came over and said we're doing awesome,so we're doing awesome,because DONALD TRUMP!He'd be investing in the country and building TRUMP TOWERS and shit be gold man!DONALD TRUMP!" back in the day.
Most people think he's an obnoxious dumbass; he's actually pretty terrible at managing a business so him investing in a place isn't much to be proud of.
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Ha ha that figures.
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North Korea tells South to leave islands
A North Korean propaganda website has warned of strikes against Southern islands and advised residents to leave.
The Uriminzokkiri website, linked to the regime, mentioned targets including Yeonpyeong island, which was attacked by Northern forces in 2010.
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The US said on Friday it would refocus missile defences to its west coast to counter the North's threats.
Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel said 14 more batteries would be placed in Alaska by 2017, adding to 30 already in place along the coast.
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At first I honestly thought this would be North Korea telling the entire South to abolish their own country and leave with all of it's citizens so NK can "gloriously and peacefully" reuinfy the country.
Now this seems like a reach, until you remember how not so long ago NK demanded to recieve a compensation from the US for the Korean war, that amounted to more money then there exists in the entire world or something as reasonable.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-06-24/n-korea-seeks-75-trillion-in-compensation/880602
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-Gave extravagant amounts of money to Turk-Cypriots (to get their votes - Each couple would get about 10 000 euro PER MONTH - seen a check with my own eyes so I know it to be true) and cut off money that was going to Greek Cypriot families that needed it (my mom from 100 euro she'd get per month for my sister - crumbs really - she'd get 70 and then they stopped it for a while (not for the Turk-Cypriots), so I know that to be true as well)
Could you explain this whole Greek and Turk-Cypriot deal.
Preferably with hand puppets and pictures
So no. The current government isn't ruining the country or deserves to be lynched.
Naw don't say that. I'm sure that there's plenty of reasons to lynch these politicians.
Or atleast tar and feather 'em. Also fuckin communists always ruining everyones fun
PS: I have NO money in the bank and neither do my parents so 8D It's good to be poor sometimes rofl!
It must be even better if all you have is debt lol