Not even dead characters can rest in peace in Naruto, seeing as how everyone and their grandmother can just Edo Tensei you back to life (sorta).
Nardo and Bleh Thread III: Naruto is a terrible terrible manga
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Is it me, or does Edo Tensei cheapen the value of death moreso than the Dragon Balls?
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Not even dead characters can rest in peace in Naruto, seeing as how everyone and their grandmother can just Edo Tensei you back to life (sorta).
I find it kinda comical that Hokage 1 and 2 were ressed twice by the same character. C'mon, gives these two characters a break. It was kinda cool the first time, really terrible when nearly EVERYONE was ressed, and now it's overkill (especially when this is the second zombie appearance of two of them).
when were you under the impression that Dosu wasn't Obito
You know, back in the day, I seriously considered Dosu to be Tobi. It would have made for an interesting twist and I can see it as a possibility (assuming Kishi actually put effort into it aside from derping his fans with Tobito). It would have been really weird though, but infinitely better than…Tobito.
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Is it me, or does Edo Tensei cheapen the value of death moreso than the Dragon Balls?
At least with ET you need human sacrifices.
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But look on the bright side, maybe now the Hokages can finally move on to the next life instead of being trapped in some death god's belly.
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Bleach was fine
I mean, even Kenpachi was dying from Naruto being awful
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At least with ET you need human sacrifices.
Or naked plant man sacrifices.
And wouldn't you know there were exactly the amount they needed (+1) hidden on Sasuke.
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Sasuke is totally the lunchbox for weird creatures and curses.
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They're equally bad. By the the time you get to the later parts of DBZ where even dead characters just coming back without the dragon balls it's just as silly as this nonsense. That being said I thought Orichimaru got his arms back when he switched bodies. He did use summoning jutsu several times so i don't know what he needs his hands for.
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There are so much cannon fodder in Naruto so a human sacrifice doesn't matter anyway (as well as plenty of Zetsu clones which I guess count too…lame).
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Or naked plant man sacrifices.
And wouldn't you know there were exactly the amount they needed (+1) hidden on Sasuke.
Sasuke always holds dependable fountain of men within him.
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How the hell did Oro have the DNA for all four Hokages? I mean, I can buy that he DNA from all of them at some point throughout his career as a rogue ninja, but how did he have them all that exact moment? After he had just sprouted out of Anko's back and they had beelined to Konoha?
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How the hell did Oro have the DNA for all four Hokages? I mean, I can buy that he DNA from all of them at some point throughout his career as a rogue ninja, but how did he have them all that exact moment? After he had just sprouted out of Anko's back and they had beelined to Konoha?
There isn't a scrap of the Naruto world that doesn't have a Hokage's rubbings all over it
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There isn't a scrap of the Naruto world that doesn't have a Hokage's rubbings all over it
Hopefully black lights don't exist in this universe.
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Or maybe Hashirama was like the Genghis Khan of Naruto world and you can trace every other ninja's lineage to him if you look hard enough
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I actually enjoyed bleach. Kenpachi unconsciously supressing his strength so that he can meet his opponents on a slightly equal footing is something I find interesting.
As for Naruto I also liked it. Oro has basically released the other half of Kyuubi chakra so maybe the Juubi becomes complete or we have another Kyuubi rampaging around and am assuming the four kage's are an answer to the unstoppable Madara
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Hopefully black lights don't exist in this universe.
They had to scrap that technology in the development stages because of
THE HORROR
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How the hell did Oro have the DNA for all four Hokages? I mean, I can buy that he DNA from all of them at some point throughout his career as a rogue ninja, but how did he have them all that exact moment? After he had just sprouted out of Anko's back and they had beelined to Konoha?
DNA is kept in a scroll which can be summoned by hand seal or hidden within the body…Kabuto did similar thing....
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New title: Orochimaru's Snake gives Kenpachi a hard on.
Glorious mangastream translation xD
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Those Zetsus were hiding in Sasuke's ass. No doubtl :B
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DNA is kept in a scroll which can be summoned by hand seal or hidden within the body…Kabuto did similar thing....
Nice of Kishi to show that to us.
Of course, I guess he doesn't have to when fanboys are more than happy to explain everything.
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I assumed Oro just had the DNA of every powerful ninja in the history of the world in his body somewhere, except for Sasuke…
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I don't even find these kinds of acts in any Ninja lore.
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@Sir:
That father son moment which is coming in naruto is bound to terrible.
"You know son, if you had red hair and were a girl you'd be prettier."
"That's just what Mom said!" -
You know, Naruto, by the time I was your age I'd already shazammed half the village
Just saying
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They're equally bad. By the the time you get to the later parts of DBZ where even dead characters just coming back without the dragon balls it's just as silly as this nonsense.
The visit for one day was in place pretty early on in Dragonball, when Goku fought his grandfather. Maybe volume 7 or so? It wasn't a late-series addition.
And at least the death cheat maguffin was built into the first chapter as the premise and TITLE OF THE SERIES. It was always a little loose and silly about death. (And they had to go on quests to earn the dragonballs. End series this was no problem, but it usually took a couple volumes of questing to restore just one or two people up until Namek.)
If Naruto was called "Zombie Ninjas" or they'd been pulling this crap all along, it'd be different.
As it is, it makes leaving Neji, Choji and Gaara alive and cheapening their deaths even stupider than it already was.
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Did Choji die AGAIN? Cuz if he did Im gonna choke a Kishi.
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yeah kichi have a TELNET to destroy every rule in his manga this chapter has so many plotholes that it distract you from the last page revel and make it underwhelming ,there i a lot of staff that don't make sense like why didn't orichimaru use this mask before he was hided the scroll long before the war started and i don't understand why the sacrifice for retaining the souls is so little in previous fights just to summon the death god you need to sacrifice your life in this chapter you summon him and take three souls and orich arms just for a single scratch in ori belly i coll bull chit and sasuke was hiding 6 bodies and he didn't notice the he was supposed to be genius he ave charingan for god sake and he body whit didn't change hiding those i didn't understand and why is hidden leaf unprotected i know they are at war but they must not leave the villages unprotected like that an more
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@RobbyBevard:
If Naruto was called "Zombie Ninjas" or they'd been pulling this crap all along, it'd be different.
As it is, it makes leaving Neji, Choji and Gaara alive and cheapening their deaths even stupider than it already was.
But the title is..just.. Naruto.. So can't we just assume it's full name is "Zombie Ninja Naruto"
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But the title is..just.. Naruto.. So can't we just assume it's full name is "Zombie Ninja Naruto"
The real title is "Sasuke."
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I'm looking forward to Sarutobis reaction next week.
"….Wait where am I? I was fighting Orochimaru, and zombies of the prior kages...good thing I managed to seal his hands...
...oh FUCK me"
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@The:
I'm looking forward to Sarutobis reaction next week.
"….Wait where am I? I was fighting Orochimaru, and zombies of the prior cages...good thing I managed to seal his hands...
...oh FUCK me"
Yeah lol, except that isn't going to happen because they're EXPOSITION SLABS
So each one of them is gonna have the personality of a peanut
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Hmm, Kishi mentioned in this issue's ToC comment that he caught a cold from running and that it set him back a day.
So, what are of the odds of this self-destruction being a idea conceived while lucid, versus it being inspired by an illness-induced delirium? -
I'm not even sure what Sasuke is going to ask them.
"Did you REALLY order the death of my clan?"
"Yeah"
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Seeing Edo Tensei is on sale here. What would happen if someone tried to Edo Tensei a person who has already been Edo Tensei'd (like Madara suddenly decided to Edo Tensei Hashirama, just for lulz). Because I think it's some sort of a soul summoning jutsu… or was it???
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Oh come on kenpachi and unohana! just throw your swords down and make out already!! They are obviously crazy about each other lol
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@The:
I'm looking forward to Sarutobis reaction next week.
"….Wait where am I? I was fighting Orochimaru, and zombies of the prior kages...good thing I managed to seal his hands...
...oh FUCK me"
Well, at least Oro doesn't want to destroy Konoha now for no apparent reason, so it's not a total loss.
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Its remarkable really but…I cant truly dislike Bleach this week. Kubo, honest to god, mended the Kenpachi powerlevel plothole. He mended it poor cement made of a bullshit unforeshadowed relationship and flashback, and once again Kenpachi is "the über god whos power level just so happen to suit the plo- er, his opponent". But mended it nonetheless.
It makes the TWO HANDS moment and all the arguments about it completely superfluous though.
Swinging your sword with both hands DOES make it stronger! It totally makes sense for Kenpachi to win like this!
Does not!
Does too!Yeah, forget all that, Kenpachi actually just won because his Saiyan subconscious kicked in.
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@The:
Its remarkable really but…I cant truly dislike Bleach this week. Kubo, honest to god, mended the Kenpachi powerlevel plothole. He mended it poor cement made of a bullshit unforeshadowed relationship and flashback, and once again Kenpachi is "the über god whos power level just so happen to suit the plo- er, his opponent". But mended it nonetheless.
It makes the TWO HANDS moment and all the arguments about it completely superfluous though.
Swinging your sword with both hands DOES make it stronger! It totally makes sense for Kenpachi to win like this!
Does not!
Does too!Yeah, forget all that, Kenpachi actually just won because his Saiyan subconscious kicked in.
Next time Kenpachi will bat away with jazz hands
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@Venomous:
Oh come on kenpachi and unohana! just throw your swords down and make out already!! They are obviously crazy about each other lol
Easy, Warden, they need some foreplay before they do the deed…
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Well, at least Oro doesn't want to destroy Konoha now for no apparent reason, so it's not a total loss.
You know, I gotta wonder what Orochimarus fate is going to be.
- Die pathetically a 4th time? (Urgh)
- Perform a heroic sacrifice and die in the war (Urrrrgh)
- Become redeemed and live on as a good guy (UUUUUUuuuuuuuuurgh)
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@The:
- Die pathetically a 4th time? (Urgh)
- Perform a heroic sacrifice and die in the war (Urrrrgh)
- Become redeemed and live on as a good guy (UUUUUUuuuuuuuuurgh)
The first option is the lesser of three evils, it seems. I can even see Madara/Obitobi plucking him off just for Kishi to hype them up some more.
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@The:
You know, I gotta wonder what Orochimarus fate is going to be.
- Die pathetically a 4th time? (Urgh)
- Perform a heroic sacrifice and die in the war (Urrrrgh)
- Become redeemed and live on as a good guy (UUUUUUuuuuuuuuurgh)
For all intents and purposes, isn't this Orochimaru an entirely different one from the one that got sealed by that illusion sword? In fact with the potential for as many Orochimarus as there are Zetsus, the epilogue could be something like HOKAGE NARUTO VS. THE SNAKE FORTRESS OF OROCHIMARU CLONES
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So I guess my post was picked up for the thread title? Cool.
Nice touch with the Penn & Teller addition.
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@RobbyBevard:
The visit for one day was in place pretty early on in Dragonball, when Goku fought his grandfather. Maybe volume 7 or so? It wasn't a late-series addition.
And at least the death cheat maguffin was built into the first chapter as the premise and TITLE OF THE SERIES. It was always a little loose and silly about death. (And they had to go on quests to earn the dragonballs. End series this was no problem, but it usually took a couple volumes of questing to restore just one or two people up until Namek.)
If Naruto was called "Zombie Ninjas" or they'd been pulling this crap all along, it'd be different.
As it is, it makes leaving Neji, Choji and Gaara alive and cheapening their deaths even stupider than it already was.
i remember piccolo vegeta and goku and gohan all fighting bad guys even though they had halos on their head. They just asked to come back and the Kai's were like sure, whatever…
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Being sealed eternally doesn't mean shit in Naruto. I knew that death was no big deal but now even the Death God seal… wow.
The RPG was funny though. "Find the mask in point A to activate the special event. Then proceed to point B and retcon some stuff on your way."
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Guess, I may as well post this. Game Grumps play Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations.
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Kubo is really stepping up his game. I honestly enjoyed the chapter this week.
On the other hand Naruto keeps redefining terrible. The whole war has been nothing but Edo Tensei hax over and over. It's just such a damn uninteresting story mechanic to bring back a character without any personality. To say nothing of how badly this reflects on Part 1, which was actually pretty good.
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@The:
You know, I gotta wonder what Orochimarus fate is going to be.
- Die pathetically a 4th time? (Urgh)
- Perform a heroic sacrifice and die in the war (Urrrrgh)
- Become redeemed and live on as a good guy (UUUUUUuuuuuuuuurgh)
Option #2, or kind of close enough to 2; I can see it now!
- Naruto dies somewhere, somehow; maybe for Konoha's sins at Sasuke's hands cause he's the messiah
- Orochimaru Edo Tensei's himself to get Zombie Ninja Naruto (motivation? To be with Sasuke forever and ever)
- But! The Naruto soul he called was actually a copy, because…
- The missing half of Kyuubi energy was slung back at Naruto and started to fuse, but wasn't complete at the time of Edo Tensei. Asspull something about Kyuubi energy mixing with Naruto's innate energy just enough to create an imprint of Naruto.
- Asspull something for Messiah Naruto to revive later, to get the Messiah Naruto vs Zombie Ninja Naruto matchup. Because a conclusion to Naruto vs Sasuke will remain the perpetual tease.