Was that really confirmed or is that just the main hypothesis of the fans? Didn't Shounen Jump just say he was sick?
And folks still fool themselves that he's STILL sick?
Was that really confirmed or is that just the main hypothesis of the fans? Didn't Shounen Jump just say he was sick?
And folks still fool themselves that he's STILL sick?
All obvious jokes about his obsession with a certain RPG series aside, Togashi just has a habit of generally incorporating his interests into his manga in general.
The part of the York Shin arc where Gon, Killua, and Leorio are making money with bartering, auctions, and flea market sales come from Togashi's own sorta packrat obsession with collecting various items. Additionally you could also attribute the darker imagery in his series (definitely more evident from the end of YuYu Hakusho's Dark Tournament arc and onward) due to Togashi's admitted love of horror movies and being a fan of H.R. Giger's work.
Was that really confirmed or is that just the main hypothesis of the fans? Didn't Shounen Jump just say he was sick?
Nope. There's never been an official explanation. Illness, laziness, Dragon Quest and dislike of merchandizing are the most popularly touted reasons, but none have any actual basis on anything stated… though we do know he loves Dragon Quest. (One of his authors comment boxes stated he was many hours into DQ9... but only at level 2. Which seems mpossible.) Some fan just said one of the things 8 years ago and it became so widespread its taken as truth.
The thing with "illness" at least is, if he was truly sick, you would think he would either wrap it up to make sure he finishes his story before his illness overtakes him... or get assistants (like everyone else) or officially switch to a a slower, perhaps monthly schedule. But since his breaks just come and go randomly and the art quality fluctuates like crazy... (And he didn't even redraw the scribbles for the latest tank) bad time management is the simplest and most likely explanation.
Ditto for "Toriyama totally wanted to end Dragonball after Frieza" when there's no indication of that whatsoever.
@RobbyBevard:
But since his breaks just come and go randomly and the art quality fluctuates like crazy… (And he didn't even redraw the scribbles for the latest tank) bad time management is the simplest and most likely explanation.
What exactly does that mean?
I can understand the art getting sloppy and having to go on break for a few weeks due to bad time management, but Togahi's been on hiatus for almost a year now (unless you count the movie tie-in chapters). How much time could he possibly need before he's "caught up" and ready to get back to work?
What exactly does that mean?
It means that rather than sit down and just draw two or three pages a day, and THEN relax and goof off for a few hours at night… he plays video games for six and a half days and then goes "Oh, my chapter is due in an hour. Here, have some scribbles."
Its the problem many artists and writers have.... but most aren't allowed the kind of hiatus shenanigans/low quality Togashi gets. But when each volume sells a million copies... (Lots of american comic artists fall prey to video game disease. It's well documented. When Joe Mad who was fine with a monthly X-men book couldn't manage a semi-annual pace on Battlechasers...)
How much time could he possibly need before he's "caught up" and ready to get back to work?
I've long assumed that, rather than vacation for a year then work hard for 10 weeks… he just sort of draws maybe two or three pages a week, maybe a panel a day as the mood strikes, and that after he has a sufficient stockpile, Jump starts printing them and hopes the 10 week head start is enough to keep ahead. Would completely explain why the hiatuses and runs vary so much in length, and why he reverted to utter scribbles and black panels at the end of his long 30 chapter stretch... they caught up to his buffer.
If it was just scheduled vacation/work hard time, the hiatuses would probably be more consistent and predictable... rather than just ever-looming.
The same process as the Berserk artist, except there you can see that he's slaving over the art and it takes the time it does because he's drawing non-stop.
@RobbyBevard:
I've long assumed that, rather than vacation for a year then work hard for 10 weeks… he just sort of draws maybe two or three pages a week, maybe a panel a day as the mood strikes, and that after he has a sufficient stockpile, Jump starts printing them and hopes the 10 week head start is enough to keep ahead. Would completely explain why the hiatuses and runs vary so much in length, and why he reverted to utter scribbles and black panels at the end of his long 30 chapter stretch... they caught up to his buffer.
So, in other words, laziness.
If this is true I have diminished respect for him as an artist and zero respect for him as a worker.
The thing is, a good editor would find a way to make sure he hit his quota for the day. 3 pages a day. As experienced as Togashi is, and as simple as he draws sometimes… he can probably do a page an hour. (Which means he can do a whole chapter in one busy day.) I work with professional comic artist that nail 3-4 pages a day like clockwork, without assistants. With that many years of skill and training behind him? It shouldn't be difficult.
I assume they back off and don't keep pressure on him because of the infamous blow out that led to the sudden end of Yu Yu Hakusho. Obviously we only get myths and half truths out of what happened there... but its plain as day the ending was sudden and rushed and him being pissed off is the only explanation that makes much sense.
If that was because at the time an editor was just arriing at his place at 9 AM and saying "okay, start working for the day" and wouldn't leave until he had three pages done (or the rough equivalent of that kind of treatment) because Togashi was being bad about his deadlines instead of professional... well... that would be why they're not doing that now. Wouldn't want him to blow up his current money maker, however unprofessional it is.
SJ should commission Horii to make a special Dragon Quest game just for togashi
And then only let him play after he's done so many pages a week
@RobbyBevard:
The thing is, a good editor would find a way to make sure he hit his quota for the day.
LOL. Togashi made WSJ his bitch.
Why doesn't he get some people to do the drawing for him? He can keep on being lazy. We get the manga every week/month and the quality of the art will be higher than these scribbles. I assume he really doesn't like drawing this stuff and I can understand, he probably has the whole story finished from A to Z and the only thing he needs to do is draw, which can be monotone and boring; the creative process already happened. But why doesn't he just get some people to draw for him is beyond me.
Why doesn't he get some people to do the drawing for him? He can keep on being lazy. We get the manga every week/month and the quality of the art will be higher than these scribbles.
Artistic integrity, duh.
@RobbyBevard:
Artistic integrity, duh.
he was being facetious.
I know. I just felt like posting that image again.
Dammit, I should have included that for my punchline.
Need to get used to meme-ing that image.
@RobbyBevard:
Dammit, I should have included that for my punchline.
Need to get used to meme-ing that image.
….........off to the Nomination Thread I go!
Let's make predictions. When will HXH return this year?
Let's make predictions. When will HXH return this year?
You're assuming it WILL return this year?
You're assuming it WILL return this year?
That's a good point, but I believe HXH has had at least one or two 10 chapter runs every year since HXH came back from that nearly 2 year hiatus at chapter 259 or 260
Like, I know it's Togashi and all, but he did say this hiatus wouldn't be too long. I know, I know.
@The:
Like, I know it's Togashi and all, but he did say this hiatus wouldn't be too long. I know, I know.
:p
Jesus Christ, I just bought the latest volumes (since I liked the Alluka arc a lot) and what was I greeted by?
FUCKING SCRIBBLES.
What a prick. I didn't throw down hard earned money for this shit.
Jesus Christ, I just bought the latest volumes (since I liked the Alluka arc a lot) and what was I greeted by?
FUCKING SCRIBBLES.
What a prick. I didn't throw down hard earned money for this shit.
Wow he hasn't really updated it? So sad. I'd be pissed too, that's totally unacceptable.
That's a good point, but I believe HXH has had at least one or two 10 chapter runs every year since HXH came back from that nearly 2 year hiatus at chapter 259 or 260
Nah. One year he managed only like 2 chapters, and another set of years he was gone for like 18 months. 10 chapters a year is in no way guaranteed.
As of March of last year, these were the statistics.
-From its debut (Issue 14, 1998) to present day (Issue 16, 2012), Hunter x Hunter has been absent from Weekly Shonen Jump 332 times.
-The Chimera Ant arc lasted 134 chapters over 402 issues of Jump; that averages out to one-third of a chapter per week.
-The longest hiatus remains 79 straight missed issues (2006-2007).
-The series’ record for absences in a calendar year is still 2009, when it missed 46 of 48 issues.
-There have been 671 issues of Weekly Shonen Jump since HxH began; Togashi has missed over 49% of them.
-Given 48 issues of Jump in one calendar year, that’s 6.92 publishing years missed.
-By comparison, One Piece (debut: Issue 34, 1997) has missed 45 issues to date. Naruto (debut: Issue 43, 1999) has missed 23 issues to date. KochiKame, which began in Issue 42, 1976, has still never missed a single week.
(Worth noting about 10 of OP's and 10 of Naruto's came from the years the creators were working on movies… and Oda worked on another movie this year.)
So, add about 30 more missing issues in there and adjust percentages accordingly. And I guess you can count the 2 movie tie in chapters for something. He's now officially passed the half and half mark and is somewhere closer to having missed 54% of his syndication. And most of that is buffer from the first 4 or 5 years when he started, where he only had maybe 10 weeks off in the course of 250 chapters. (Closer to everyone else's rate.)
If you count just within the last 9 years, instead of the last 15, (basically the Chimera ant arc) he's pretty close to missing 83% of the time. ~350 times misses within ~430 issues, roughly. Or 80 out of 430 delivered.
Some of them scribbles!
Oh man…... Togashi needs to write a tell-all book someday about his career as a mangaka. Jump lets him get away with murder
If the magazine does everything to protect Togashi, that means that… Shimabakuro was inocent, it was all Togashi, Sueisha shifted the charges against him!
It all makes sense!
The Gourmet Hunters, the creepy old guy series of Shima, his friendship with Oda, Hisoka's mock pedophilia, the breastfeeding chapter, the rushed ending of YuYu Hakusho, the Hiatus, the existence of the Butt Butt Bug, and avobe all THE ELEVATOR CHAPTER!
The Gourmet Hunters, the creepy old guy series of Shima, his friendship with Oda, Hisoka's mock pedophilia, the breastfeeding chapter, the rushed ending of YuYu Hakusho, the Hiatus, the existence of the Butt Butt Bug, and avobe all THE ELEVATOR CHAPTER!
You're right. For the first time in a long time, life seems to make sense
What Butt Butt Bug?
If the magazine does everything to protect Togashi, that means that… Shimabakuro was inocent, it was all Togashi, Sueisha shifted the charges against him!
….........what? Who's Shimabakuro?
What is the THE ELEVATOR CHAPTER!?
Eh, it's not as bad as I remember it, I tougth that 273 was the one returning from a hiatus, it's anoying for a return to the magazine over half chapter goes on narrating how the elevator works. But it's not that bad in hindsight.
That's a good point, but I believe HXH has had at least one or two 10 chapter runs every year since HXH came back from that nearly 2 year hiatus at chapter 259 or 260
Ahhh, don't remind me. I like hunterxhunter, but that wait was way too long. Can I be Togashi's editor and just show up at his door at 9 AM and eat ramen at his place until he has his pages done? ;-)
@RobbyBevard:
If that was because at the time an editor was just arriing at his place at 9 AM and saying "okay, start working for the day" and wouldn't leave until he had three pages done (or the rough equivalent of that kind of treatment) because Togashi was being bad about his deadlines instead of professional… well... that would be why they're not doing that now. Wouldn't want him to blow up his current money maker, however unprofessional it is.
BTW, this is perfectly normal.
Hell, editors have called artists at 3AM in the morning to tell them to get the F up and finish drawing, deadline was yesterday!
Regardless of how talented the artist is, if they can't do the job, they don't need to keep their job, IMHO.
But as long as HxH keeps selling in millions every issue, Shuueisha will probably keep him.
The decision may actually come from above and not editorial for all we know.
BTW, this is perfectly normal.
Hell, editors have called artists at 3AM in the morning to tell them to get the F up and finish drawing, deadline was yesterday!Regardless of how talented the artist is, if they can't do the job, they don't need to keep their job, IMHO.
But as long as HxH keeps selling in millions every issue, Shuueisha will probably keep him.
The decision may actually come from above and not editorial for all we know.
My guess is that at this point they don't see HxH as a series anymore. They just see it as a bonus that comes around every year and a half or so.
BTW, this is perfectly normal.
Yup. It totally is. Get your work done guys. If you have to skip backgrounds for a couple pages and draw just headshots… do what you gotta do!
I hate to say it, but for all the shit we give Kubo, at least he gets the job done! He knows where to cut corners to make a deadline. The problem is he does it so consistently that its a style, rather than an ocassional shortcut,
Regardless of how talented the artist is, if they can't do the job, they don't need to keep their job, IMHO.
But as long as HxH keeps selling in millions every issue, Shuueisha will probably keep him.
The decision may actually come from above and not editorial for all we know.
Its a good thing that last volume had that ONE chapter at the end setting up a future arc, or else everyone might assume the series was actually over.
Yesss. I'm glad they're downplaying the real Bomber just like the manga did. There's not suspicious music playing whenever he talks… not super dramatic zoom shots with possible half-second smirk at the end... Just naturally blends in.
Only thing that damages that is him doing the smirk in the opening, lol. But eh, this arc has long been over in the manga.
Man, it's gonna be just so so great to have my weekly dose of :cheerful: ADOVENCHA :cheerful: in some of the best arcs of both the respective anime of One Piece and Hunter X Hunter.
I think Togashi should wrap up the manga with an open ended arc, then finish the story of HXH through this anime. This adaptation is too good to suffer death due to it catching up to the manga. And if the anime became the main source for the HXH story, Togashi wouldn't have to do all the drawing his manga requires
I think Togashi should wrap up the manga with an open ended arc, then finish the story of HXH through this anime. This adaptation is too good to suffer death due to it catching up to the manga. And if the anime became the main source for the HXH story, Togashi wouldn't have to do all the drawing his manga requires
I doubt the anime would be able to take the reins of the series without major help from togashi…
I doubt the anime would be able to take the reins of the series without major help from togashi…
Thats what I meant I just didn't make it clear. Togashi would write the story and design the characters and all that stuff, the anime would just tell the story, rather than Togashi drawing manga chapters to tell the story
I think Togashi should wrap up the manga with an open ended arc, then finish the story of HXH through this anime. This adaptation is too good to suffer death due to it catching up to the manga. And if the anime became the main source for the HXH story, Togashi wouldn't have to do all the drawing his manga requires
It could have ended after the election arc, honestly. That whole silent chapter we had could have been the final chapter. It felt like one. Sure, there were plot points that were not concluded, but with all the breaks that Togashi takes, it feels like that would have been the most appropriate place to end the series.
@Fire Fist:
It could have ended after the election arc, honestly. That whole silent chapter we had could have been the final chapter. It felt like one. Sure, there were plot points that were not concluded, but with all the breaks that Togashi takes, it feels like that would have been the most appropriate place to end the series.
The series did end. That was the last chapter ever.
Kind of open ended, but that's fine.
We still havent seen Kait in this anime right?
Nope, they skippied one of the premier chapters where he was introduced.
Nope, they skippied one of the premier chapters where he was introduced.
Thats what I thought. The GI ending is going to make like no sense. I wonder what they have up their sleeve
Thats what I thought. The GI ending is going to make like no sense. I wonder what they have up their sleeve
Kaito being mentioned once in one line of dialogue and then a
! hiatus to build hype around his name for anime-only viewers and then when he appears they'll be all like yeeeeah Kaito. It'd both emulate the manga experience and make up a bit for the lack of background around Kaito.
The major announcement:
What we want - "hxh will be returning to serialization and feature shorter hiatuses. We are about x% through the story"
What we'll get - hxh actually ended with its last chapter. Togashi thanks his fans for all their support over the years and encourages them to keep watching and enjoying the anime "togashi dog face"
Kaito being mentioned once in one line of dialogue and then a
! hiatus to build hype around his name for anime-only viewers and then when he appears they'll be all like yeeeeah Kaito. It'd both emulate the manga experience and make up a bit for the lack of background around Kaito.
Or they could just add a flashback sequence here or there to foreshadow his existence…
The major announcement:
What we want - "hxh will be returning to serialization and feature shorter hiatuses. We are about x% through the story"
What we'll get - hxh actually ended with its last chapter. Togashi thanks his fans for all their support over the years and encourages them to keep watching and enjoying the anime "togashi dog face"
The series could technically end since the main reason Gon ventured out was to understand his father. Now that that's happened, there isn't much of a prerogative to continue the story unless Gon finds a new reason. Hell, even Killua got what he wanted by freeing Alluka.