there's nothing weird about that panel where luffy touched brownbeard's head. i thought it was a "touching" moment. no pun intended. but seriously.. it was just like luffy was saying "don't worry bro, i got your back."
Chapter 689: Seemingly non-existent island.
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@Money:
Is that Zoan under "used" wearing a bikini? O.O
Yes, there is a female Smile user thats wearing a bikini. I can't tell the animal head she has but can tell the body is a scantily clad female
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Yes, BB was talking about the Yami Yami no Mi. It was mentioned when he faced off against Ace, BB explained he joined WB's crew just so he could look for that exact fruit. BB states its different from other logias as one of its ability is to neutralize another DF user's power with just a touch, making the Yami Yami no Mi unique
It's just unique. It's the perfect fruit for BB but no way an hell that's the more powerful one.
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It's just unique. It's the perfect fruit for BB but no way an hell that's the more powerful one.
If it allows him to steal other DF powers, it allows for exponential growth and is technically the best fruit you could eat.
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I meant literally how he's drawn.
His face seems sharper, and I noticed how angular his jaw was in a few panels. Straaange.
Kinda reminiscent of his Water 7/Enies Lobby model if you ask me.
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I think this whole arc the style he's used to draw Luffy has slightly changed, more so when he's serious/angry.
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If it allows him to steal other DF powers, it allows for exponential growth and is technically the best fruit you could eat.
The devil fruit stealing part is unconfirmed, plus it would have completely useless if eaten by any other person as no one else would be able to eat 2 devil fruit.As we are talking about the fruit in general then that point cannot be it's strength. and no he did not have exponential growth,he was always this strong (physically)
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If it allows him to steal other DF powers, it allows for exponential growth and is technically the best fruit you could eat.
Right, so you think Marco's a dumbass. Or a liar.
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Right, so you think Marco's a dumbass. Or a liar.
Oh shit, I forgot about that. It must be something else, then.
The Yami fruit seems pretty balanced, then, considering its weakness. It would be difficult to pinpoint a "strongest fruit", though.
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Yes, there is a female Smile user thats wearing a bikini. I can't tell the animal head she has but can tell the body is a scantily clad female
I'd say she is a leopard. A wildcat.
Also I am in the "Bepo, Pekoms and Catman are minkmen"-boat.
Chopper's monster point also seems to be awakened (he is effing huge when using it and there are those significant hands/fingers and dot eyes), but yet we lack of evidence.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
I think the yonko that has the army of smile users is big mam because we've seen pekoms and hes both a turtle and a lion
bepo and monet could also be suspected of smile users
Monet is no zoan. Not at all. Before Law was @ PH, she was a "normal" Snow Logia girl. Law attached "Bird-limbs" on her just like he has built the centaur-troop: he took a crocodile body and sum horses (without head) and attached them to the upper bodies of BrownB's troop.
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@nodensuke:
I think this whole arc the style he's used to draw Luffy has slightly changed, more so when he's serious/angry.
I've noticed that. When he gets angry, he looks a lot like his dad, Dragon.
I'd say she is a leopard. A wildcat.
Also I am in the "Bepo, Pekoms and Catman are minkmen"-boat.
Chopper's monster point also seems to be awakened (he is effing huge when using it and there are those significant hands/fingers and dot eyes), but yet we lack of evidence.Ah glad to have you abord the boat :) YEah on looking, she looks like she has a big cat's muzzle
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here: http://mangarule.altervista.org/blog/blog/, but you can read their chapters in batoto.
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why the discussion about the strongest logia?
The other logias, element wise, are either stronger/affect another logia(Akainou vs Ace) or dont affect each other (Ace vs Smoker). I dont think further guessing has any point. you dont compare users but abilities and since only one of them(yami yami) can counter the rest that makes it the strongest and the weakest at the same time .A theory is a theory that supported by facts/hints. You dont just alter whatever you like so that it fits your theory . You cnat claim that Kaidu has the strongest Zoan or Big mom has the strongest Logia so it fits to make a theory when you have 0 hints whatsoever. Moreover you cant alter what we read to make it more convenient for your theory when BB has the strongest Logia and Marco probably the strongest Zoan
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I intended to post this on the criticism thread instead of here 'cause I didn't want to be the "rain-on-parade-guy", but it is closed, so here will do.
But, well, this is it, I am dropping One Piece for now.
Ever since the timeskip it is simply not working for me. I probably got tired of Oda ways of doing things even though I used to love it. Reading this chapter, I just couldn't stop rolling my eyes to how EVILLLLL Ceasar is and to the terrible BB crying over his dear friends and then Luffy coming and… oh my god, it's like Oda is always portraying the same thing over and over and over again. This exact scene probably never happened in OP, but the way he does things, the way the bad guys are way too bad, the way the others are the opposite and always so caring, the way you always know someone will be humilliated and Luffy will appear with his serious face and DOON!!! punch the guy in the faczzzzzZzzzzzZZzZZz.
It seriously took me 3 attempts to finally finish reading this chapter because it bored and annoyed me to no end when I was reading it. For months I am reading One Piece purely out of some "obligation sense" and this just ruins everything.
So I will take a break from One Piece, let the story progress and, some months from now, or an year, when I think I am ready, I will come back to it and, hopefully, enjoy it again in all its glory.
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You are one daring man
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Man does it make me feel giddy inside every time I see his badass expression. I'm sorry you don't have a lady boner for Luffy like I do .access.
I agree with Money and Spades, goodluck on your cleansing.
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Really?. Please let Sengoku, Marco, X-drake, Lucci and Pekoms know. And send me a letter from the Hospital to which you`ll be remited afterwards.
I'm not saying that zoan fruits don't have any fighting capabilities. I was just a little disappointed that SAD witch was supposed to wreck havok in New World could only make zoan fruits. I tought it would be some kind of mass-destruction weapon like Smiley. Of course zoan user can be a stong fighther, especially a mythical one.
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regular Zoans just have regular animal abilities. Compared to the varieties of logia n some paremacia, they seem to be the weakness kinds of fruits, but theyre still bad ass tho
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Monet is no zoan. Not at all. Before Law was @ PH, she was a "normal" Snow Logia girl. Law attached "Bird-limbs" on her just like he has built the centaur-troop: he took a crocodile body and sum horses (without head) and attached them to the upper bodies of BrownB's troop.
Nevertheless I also think BM uses Smile for that army.Well, if the artificial DF does allow for you to have a real one at the same time (and it does make the transformation permanent), couldn't she have an Artificial Harpy Zoan and the real Snow Logia?
What reason would she have to replace some of her limbs when she was perfectly okay when Law came to the island? Unlike Brownbeard and his mean who were flat out missing limbs.
This mystery behind her is the exact reason we're not done with her character yet.
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@Nex:
Well, if the artificial DF does allow for you to have a real one at the same time (and it does make the transformation permanent), couldn't she have an Artificial Harpy Zoan and the real Snow Logia?
What reason would she have to replace some of her limbs when she was perfectly okay when Law came to the island? Unlike Brownbeard and his mean who were flat out missing limbs.
This mystery behind her is the exact reason we're not done with her character yet.
Usopp groups her with the centaurs here, which heavily implies that she underwent the same thing as them.
I don't think Oda has ever given away false info through a throwaway line, as there is no reason to do so. Oda put that line there most likely to ensure us that Monet's animal limbs were also Law's doing.
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.access's post gave me this lulzy image of Brownbeard in Nami's pose (crodile butt and all) in tears looking over his shoulder asking Luffy to help him, and then Luffy puts his hat on Brownbeard an punches CC lmao.
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The Catman is from HAWKINS' crew.
SLAPS self:blink: why the he## did I say that? I've been talking in another thread AND at DA…I could have sworn that I said Hawkins ...
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.access's post gave me this lulzy image of Brownbeard in Nami's pose (crodile butt and all) in tears looking over his shoulder asking Luffy to help him, and then Luffy puts his hat on Brownbeard an punches CC lmao.
Thank you for also giving me that image, it just made my day.
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Usopp groups her with the centaurs here, which heavily implies that she underwent the same thing as them.
I don't think Oda has ever given away false info through a throwaway line, as there is no reason to do so. Oda put that line there most likely to ensure us that Monet's animal limbs were also Law's doing.
I remember when Usopp called Wadatsumi an Umibozu upon introduction and it only was revealed some chapters later that he was a fishman in fact. :D
But yeah, most times it is the way you said and I also think it was Law's doing. I just want to know the reason why she wanted that.
…hm, maybe Law has a bird fetish and told Monet "Let me give you bird features or I'll crush your heart, biatch!". :ninja: -
I remember when Usopp called Wadatsumi an Umibozu upon introduction and it only was revealed some chapters later that he was a fishman in fact. :D
But yeah, most times it is the way you said and I also think it was Law's doing. I just want to know the reason why she wanted that.
…hm, maybe Law has a bird fetish and told Monet "Let me give you bird features or I'll crush your heart, biatch!". :ninja:It would explain why he was in Doflamingo's crew. :ninja:
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I wouldn't be surprised if Monet's bird features are from a SMILE zoan, actually. This ensures her faithfulness to Doffy.
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that would be an interesting twist.. but i feel like we would have seen more of a difference in her bird form if that was true
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@400MillionBelis:
I wouldn't be surprised if Monet's bird features are from a SMILE zoan, actually. This ensures her faithfulness to Doffy.
Don't see how. I rather think being use for test subject, don't make you faithful but angry. And anyways Dofla started is SMILE business 2 years ago while Monet gained her features a couple of months ago.
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@400MillionBelis:
I wouldn't be surprised if Monet's bird features are from a SMILE zoan, actually. This ensures her faithfulness to Doffy.
Woah! I just got a crazy idea, what if the SMILE has something like a kill-switch that Doflamingo has control of, Monet knows about it and thats why she's faithful, but it could be a huge plot-twist when Dofla double crosses a Yonko.
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Woah! I just got a crazy idea, what if the SMILE has something like a kill-switch that Doflamingo has control of, Monet knows about it and thats why she's faithful, but it could be a huge plot-twist when Dofla double crosses a Yonko.
Dofla is a businessman, he have no reason to fuck up one of his best clients.
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Dofla is a businessman, he have no reason to fuck up one of his best clients.
Corporations and organization secretly want to rule the world.
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@400MillionBelis:
Corporations and organization secretly want to rule the world.
Dofla have never do or said something who implied thad. He seems to be someone who like to do what he wants.
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Yes, there is a female Smile user thats wearing a bikini. I can't tell the animal head she has but can tell the body is a scantily clad female
It's a cheetah female Zoan or Smile.
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Dofla have never do or said something who implied thad. He seems to be someone who like to do what he wants.
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Dofla have never do or said something who implied thad. He seems to be someone who like to do what he wants.
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I'm tempted to link a Samuel L Jackson clip from Pulp Fiction.
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Big Mum's got the army of zoans (see: Pekomz). Kaidou's got an army of cyborgs (see: the cyborg on his 'favourite island'). Shanks n' Blackbeard've just got mad strong cxnts (see: Whitebeard War and Impel Down arcs).
It's gonna' be a Dolfa-XBigMum double team. That's gonna' be fxcked. If that's the case, then ApooXKidXHawkins alliance'll join forces with the Strawhearts.
I understand that I've just dropped a lot of long-term speculations there, but this chapter seemed to tie up a lot of things for me. PH's been a highly revealing arc, and I think in time we'll associate it only with good things. Oda hadta' pull a stunt like this after FI. The true calibre of the New World has been forced upon us, however, even with the TS, the SH hafta' pull an alliance in order to overcome a Yonkou. Furthermore, evidence would suggest that the Yonkou, the very same Yonkou that Luffy declared war on, is in some form league with the toughest Shichibukai on the seas, the very same Yonkou that Luffy's declaring war on, therefore, even if their partnership is only business related at the moment, a stronger bond could be created purely because they have a common enemy.
ApooXKidXHawkins alliance was also introduced in this arc, surely for the same purpose as the Strawhearts: Power - and why not take out a Yonkou? It's been long 2 years, and those guys must rule with an iron grip, wouldn't it be a good time to try and take 1 of them out? But, why is it Big Mum? The woman had FI in her territory, which suggests that she's based in the area. Yes, WB had dominion over FI, however that was a philanthropic gesture, and therefore would be willing to stretch himself in order to defend the island, whereas Big Mum had protection paid to them, because the deal suited them. Candy or no candy, Big Mum wouldn't've swallowed FI had it not suited her economic interests. With this logic, I would say this: Big Mom's in the area. This means 2 things. With FI island placed at the start of the NW, Big Mum's territory is therefore also at the start of the NW. If the Yonkou are to have empires, then would be mainly shaped into 1 large organism. Naturally there would be other territories sprinkled across the NW, but in order to maintain a balance on power, each Yonkou would have to adopt a stronghold of islands in a single part of the NW. Therefore, Big Mum's 'stronghold' is situated at the start of the NW. Someone hadta' do it. This also would allow Dofla-, her partner, to travel easily through the seas surrounding PH, which seems to be somewhere within her empire's seas. Secondly, this would suggest that all of these pirates (Big Mum, Dofla-, Law, Apoo, Hawkins, Kidd) have only managed to travel within Big Mum's seas in the NW because they haven't been able to get any further. The only Yonkou that they have opposed, observed, and felt friction from and therefore only wished to overcome is Big Mum. They've faced her and realised that more power was necessary and alliances had to be formed. To get any further in the NW would mean that more territory would have to be claimed, and Big Mum is the first available target. She's the biggest Yonkou in the area. Best to cut the head off the snake and deal up the large chunks between the victors.
It's her or Kaidou, his 'favourite island' is very early in the NW. The above could apply to Kaidou, however, if that island is his 'favourite', that could be an affordable cost of access.
Big Mum'd still be tough to defeat though, seriously. If they all happen to be fighting her simultaneously, all of their help'd be helpful and a super-alliance'd be formed. 5 Supernovae is not an overstatement. This is 1 of the 4 strongest pirates in the world. I've nothing more to say.
That went on a lot longer than I'd expected and I think that people will come for my throat.
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@400MillionBelis:
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When did he?
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It's a cheetah female Zoan or Smile.
How can it be a cheetah? We saw one in Foxy's crew lol.
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How can it be a cheetah? We saw one in Foxy's crew lol.
That was F to the I to the L to the L to the E to the R: Filler! I also think the cheetah there was just a regular animal and not a DF user. xD
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Mmmm… Chiqicheetah was definitely a Fruit user. He went from a cheetah-man to a full cheetah at least twice. Also, filler or no, Oda makes sure that the anime never violates his rule for one Fruit at a time. Before the anime (and I assume the games, movies, specials, etc.) can use a Fruit of their own creation, they have to ask Oda if it's okay. He either waves them off, or tells them has has plans for something similar.
The villain from the first movie, who could scream out energy attacks is probably an example of Oda telling them to change things, considering Apoo. Bear King from the second movie, and Eric the Whirlwind are also likely examples of concepts that had to be changed.
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Oh, and there's every indication that SMILEs can use a Zoan-power that a proper Fruit already has. The shot of the SMILE shows an elephant, a giraffe and a wolf. There's also a rhino and a horse, now that I look closely. The following page has: rhino, elephant... and I think I see a wolf. Now, since none of the designs were reused, we can probably infer that SMILEs can only make a Zoan-power once. Really wish I had a higher quality image, though.
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How can it be a cheetah? We saw one in Foxy's crew lol.
look at the spots on her body it's dot dot, cheetahs are the only cat family animal that has dot dot on there body, Leapord has a short lines on there body, Tigers have a stripe lines, and I know Oda makes sure no one uses a DF in filler or movie without asking him but we're talking about fake DF here so it may be an exception.
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How can it be a cheetah? We saw one in Foxy's crew lol.
1-That was filler only, not canon. Same situation has that movie that female logia (Honey Queen?), she was only filler so Monet is still the first canon female logia.
2- he looked more like an anthormorpic like Bepo than a zoan, we never saw him change form, just go from standing to running on fours
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so we know where next year anime budjet will go
do you think that the smile dv will have there own rules while having the basic rules like sdv cant swim but there is replicas frome origenal dv so that explan the eliphant in the chapter
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Animals given their respective fruits.
Like a rhino being given the rhino rhino fruit.
Correct me if I'm wrong.