on mIRC:
irc.shadowarmor.net
#cartoon_palace
Furf has all the OP dubs so far. now to get everyone's favorite, Fantastic VOYAGE!
actually I can see what my friend will say all ready, "Well they have to edit that stuff because they don't want to show death to kids, it upsets them. I agree with what he did."
Thing is he said "Who said you can't take a highly successful show from another country and put it in America, getting rid of the violence and nude to aim it at kids? If they make money from it, then great!"
My reply was:
"Great for who? Them? What about the people who worked so hard to create a great story, and build on character's pasts only to have it destoryed by 4kids? Deaths that have happened in the show that showed character development or were important to the series, have been edited or skipped. Instead of dying, they "got hurt" or "sent to dungeons." They've skipped over 30 episodes and merged many together because they've had to stkip voilence and other things. They've changed names after PROMISING US they would not change names for the hell of it. And here's the thing: They aren't making money from it. That's the problem. They've dumbed the episodes down so much. Sake becomes juice. Guns become water pistols and CORK guns. CORK GUNS!… I shit you not, they've used CORK GUNS on the show. Now if my kid wast watching TV and said, "Wow that guy is dangerous, he has a cork gun!" I'd be like "WTF!"
They aren't making money with One Piece. in fact it was dropped from FoxBox due to low ratings. This is because they've taken a masterpiece and destroyed it"
he also said:
"If the music works, then it doesn't matter if it has words or not. It's about marketing. When you have music with words that are in another language, a kid won't understand the words. That's not market-friendly. It might have costed them more money to translate the words, or maybe they felt the music was American-oriented enough. But either way, their decisions are marketing based."
then I said:
"I know for a fact that 4kids gets ASCAP and BMI royalties every time their shows air. ANd as I said, changing or translating a song because it has words in another language is one thing. I agree with that, that's fine, I don't have issue with that. But taking award winning BG music and changing it to the crap that 4kids changes it to, is stupid. The music vary rarely fits the scene. The only way I can prove this to you is to have you watch an episode of Sonic X or One Piece in it's original form and then watch the 4kids edited version. I think you would agree with me then."
okay sorry i don't know why i brought that here but... oh well.