If Sanji has a secret okama side, it'll probably be activated by switching which eye is covered by hair.
And I bet that sometime in the future, Sanji will remind someone they meet of Zeff.
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Yeah and if Zoro will open his closed eye he will come into Perona Mode… Geez. Well he had his hair all the time switched pre TS and was no Okama.
I afree with the Zeff stuff and I hope so
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Yeah you need to wear Okama clothes to use Okama Kenpo attacks^^ That makes sense and he magically will transform his clothes like Sailor Moon
Seriously… When people will give up. Sanji may have some Okama Kenpo based move but he won't be a cross dresser... Same like Usopp won't suddenly wear a beetle mask, Zoro get into emo mode after being 2 years with Perona, Luffy will use a sword cuz he trained with Rayleigh etc.
I'm not saying that it's the cloths. What I'm saying is that it'll be a mentality that allows him to use the Okama Kenpo to it's full potential. When Sanji used his Blue Walk and Sky Walk, what did he think about as he used those attacks? He thought about his time with the Okama's. What did he think about when he used his full body Diable Jambe? He burst into flames because he thought about his time there. Every new attack we've seen from Sanji has been related to his terrible experiences with the Okama's and him trying to forget. He learned Skywalk because he tried to get away from them. He bursts into fire because he remembers them.
What I'm theorizing is a one time scenario in which he understands the power that somebody like Ivankov has, knows he'll get stronger if he uses the Okama Kenpo, and "turns off" his manly, Okama hating personality to fully use the power of Okama Kenpo.
Don't lump me with the people that thought Sanji would be an Okama after the time skip. I'm giving a one-time scenario that would completely fit in Sanji's character and something that Oda would realistically use for comedic effect.
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I'm not saying that it's the cloths. What I'm saying is that it'll be a mentality that allows him to use the Okama Kenpo to it's full potential. When Sanji used his Blue Walk and Sky Walk, what did he think about as he used those attacks? He thought about his time with the Okama's. What did he think about when he used his full body Diable Jambe? He burst into flames because he thought about his time there. Every new attack we've seen from Sanji has been related to his terrible experiences with the Okama's and him trying to forget. He learned Skywalk because he tried to get away from them. He bursts into fire because he remembers them.
What I'm theorizing is a one time scenario in which he understands the power that somebody like Ivankov has, knows he'll get stronger if he uses the Okama Kenpo, and "turns off" his manly, Okama hating personality to fully use the power of Okama Kenpo.
Don't lump me with the people that thought Sanji would be an Okama after the time skip. I'm giving a one-time scenario that would completely fit in Sanji's character and something that Oda would realistically use for comedic effect.
This explanation is completely different from youd "Sanji having femine clothes to use Okama Mode and the attack to the fullest"… Like I said... I see no problem for him using Okama Kempo based attacks he learned by fighting them (which he already has done with his Frying Pan: Spectrum attack)... And I don't even see it one time sceneraio and can see him using attacks more often based on his experience there... And to be honest... Sanji may be disgusted by them but I seriously doubt he is hating them by the bottom of his heart. he even said to them to thank Iva for everything.
The only point is he never will become a crossdresser or femine like you said in your first theory
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The only point is he never will become a crossdresser or femine like you said in your first theory
Well what I said was that he would do these things to unlock the full potential. It'd be for comedic effect. Sanji can only defeat this enemy to save/protect Nami and Robin so he needs to become as powerful as somebody as Ivankov. He'd be using the Okama Kenpo and kicking ass, but acting a bit flamboyant like Bon Clay.
I could picture immediately afterward, Sanji going right back to being normal and blocking it out of his mind, like seeing Kokoro as a mermaid.
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This explanation is completely different from youd "Sanji having femine clothes to use Okama Mode and the attack to the fullest"… Like I said... I see no problem for him using Okama Kempo based attacks he learned by fighting them (which he already has done with his Frying Pan: Spectrum attack)... And I don't even see it one time sceneraio and can see him using attacks more often based on his experience there... And to be honest... Sanji may be disgusted by them but I seriously doubt he is hating them by the bottom of his heart. he even said to them to thank Iva for everything.
The only point is he never will become a crossdresser or femine like you said in your first theory
The underlined part is quite possible.
Oda might make Sanji put on Feminine cloths later on the series for Comedy.
Not in a way that some other people have suggested(martin) but in some sort of comedy, Oda might torment Sanji some more.
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For comedy it is compeltey different than him becoming an actual Okama.
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For comedy it is compeltey different than him becoming an actual Okama.
agreed, Completely become one is unlikely.
Also if we do some research, Sanji put on those cloths at the Okama Island when he first arrived.
When he heard of the situation of Luffy, he Got right back into his senses and Fought against them with all his might for 2 whole years.
His most likely not gonna turn into an okama because of being able to use some special move or something similar, because he spent 2 years Learning those moves in his own way(ecapeing and Resisting them with his Suit on) and not the Okama way. -
agreed, Completely become one is unlikely.
Also if we do some research, Sanji put on those cloths at the Okama Island when he first arrived.
When he heard of the situation of Luffy, he Got right back into his senses and Fought against them with all his might for 2 whole years.
His most likely not gonna turn into an okama because of being able to use some special move or something similar, because he spent 2 years Learning those moves in his own way(ecapeing and Resisting them with his Suit on) and not the Okama way.No the anime did so^^
In the manga Iva hinted that if he can't stand his man int he challenge he will be FORCED to wear the dress once again.
With the rest I agree
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No the anime did so^^
In the manga Iva hinted that if he can't stand his man int he challenge he will be FORCED to wear the dress once again.
With the rest I agree
I didn't understand what you said but I'll try my best to Interpret it properly.
It was in the Manga Cover Story and The the link Below.!
so… I think he never put on a Dress after this.!
He didn't lose that Challenge… that's quite obvious or he'd be a maiden right now.
or that he would never tried to learn the Flying move to get away from them.
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his still got his suit on when he learns to use this move. and I believe its Early on during his training… Cause making him put that thing on wouldn't be good for someone who's so motivated. it would be bad writing to have him defeated. -
Well the way U said it and cuz the anime potrayed it that way… that Sanji at first wears the dress on his own free will jumping in joy... while the manga cover page only shows him dressed like one but not looking happy with veins on his arms and shadows around his eyes.
http://i39.tinypic.com/szhk0g.jpg
And with the challenge Iva said, that they will TRY to force him into the dress once again… So it doesn't seem that Sanji was doing it on his free will, like the anime potrayed it
http://www.mangareader.net/103-56333-26/one-piece/chapter-595.html
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Well the way U said it and cuz the anime potrayed it that way… that Sanji at first wears the dress on his own free will jumping in joy... while the manga cover page only shows him dressed like one but not looking happy with veins on his arms and shadows around his eyes.
http://i39.tinypic.com/szhk0g.jpg
And with the challenge Iva said, that they will TRY to force him into the dress once again… So it doesn't seem that Sanji was doing it on his free will, like the anime potrayed it
http://www.mangareader.net/103-56333-26/one-piece/chapter-595.html
Nah, i don't even remember that episode.:ninja:
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Beaten up by a bunch of Okamas? Do you remember Nami who was "forced" to dress a wedding dress
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So what Island is next for the Strawhats? After Punk Hazard, is it a Eternal pose straight to Wano, or One of the 3 starter islands? or somehow another conflict with Big Mom or her crew?
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Well the way U said it and cuz the anime potrayed it that way… that Sanji at first wears the dress on his own free will jumping in joy... while the manga cover page only shows him dressed like one but not looking happy with veins on his arms and shadows around his eyes.
http://i39.tinypic.com/szhk0g.jpg
And with the challenge Iva said, that they will TRY to force him into the dress once again… So it doesn't seem that Sanji was doing it on his free will, like the anime potrayed it
http://www.mangareader.net/103-56333-26/one-piece/chapter-595.htmlI'll go with the manga, it is canon its written by Oda, not the anime. The anime is based on the manga but fills in a lot to fill up the time and amke scences longer. Fillers, either a few moments or entire arc, are not canon.
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So what Island is next for the Strawhats? After Punk Hazard, is it a Eternal pose straight to Wano, or One of the 3 starter islands? or somehow another conflict with Big Mom or her crew?
I'm guessing they skipped the starter islands - Hence why Smoker is playing catchup
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I'll go with the manga, it is canon its written by Oda, not the anime. The anime is based on the manga but fills in a lot to fill up the time and amke scences longer. Fillers, either a few moments or entire arc, are not canon.
Sigh it's not that simple anymore.
Usopp's island being revealed in the Anime before the Manga - Daddy Matherson being shown based on dropped content - I still think Oda is using the manga to flesh things out that he doesn't have time to do in the Manga - I think the Fishman Island arc will be full of them.
Caveat: I do not think Oda is writting out scripts or constantly meeting with anime makers what I think and seems logical is he is supplying them with drafts of cut content for them to flesh out in their style. Stuff that Oda may well reference at a later date but will not require it to have been in the Manga.
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I'm guessing they skipped the starter islands - Hence why Smoker is playing catchup
They didn't really skip the first three islands because they do have to go to at least one of them in order for the log pose to point to the next location. So after Punk Hazard I think it is a safe bet to say that they will go to one of the three islands.
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They didn't really skip the first three islands because they do have to go to at least one of them in order for the log pose to point to the next location. So after Punk Hazard I think it is a safe bet to say that they will go to one of the three islands.
or they can get an eternal pose from 1 of the samurais from Wano; So they don't really have to go to a starter island for the log to set.
Remember back on Little Garden there was a eternal pose for Elbaf. So even in the new world Eternal pose's do work. -
or they can get an eternal pose from 1 of the samurais from Wano; So they don't really have to go to a starter island for the log to set.
Remember back on Little Garden there was a eternal pose for Elbaf. So even in the new world Eternal pose's do work.I can see why fans of One Piece want to see the crew go to Wano but how would the crew benefit from going to Wano? Wouldn't they want to go to the first three islands so that they know they going the right way? I do think that they will end up on Wano at some point in the story but I don't think it will be this soon unless Punk Hazard is going to be a arc that lays the foundations for a new saga revolved around Wano. Like Litte Graden with the Baroque Works saga. But based on how this arc is porgressing, it looks like it will be just an arc that stands on its own like arcs in the East Blue Saga or Thriller Bark.
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I can see why fans of One Piece want to see the crew go to Wano but how would the crew benefit from going to Wano? Wouldn't they want to go to the first three islands so that they know they going the right way? I do think that they will end up on Wano at some point in the story but I don't think it will be this soon unless Punk Hazard is going to be a arc that lays the foundations for a new saga revolved around Wano. Like Litte Graden with the Baroque Works saga. But based on how this arc is porgressing, it looks like it will be just an arc that stands on its own like arcs in the East Blue Saga or Thriller Bark.
There's was a reason why Zoro's was the one to slay the dragon so that his name would be famous in Wano for killing one.
Which would make Zoro a target by many Strong Samurai's. But your probably right since it will take some time for this news to spread. Going to Wano immediately isn't the right time since they just entered the New World. Fishman Island Appeared about 500 chapters after fishmen were Introduced. Samurai's and Wano might be the same thing maybe, but not 500 chapters, much less off course. I wonder though will the Issue with Big Mom get resolved first or journey to Wano?
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They didn't really skip the first three islands because they do have to go to at least one of them in order for the log pose to point to the next location. So after Punk Hazard I think it is a safe bet to say that they will go to one of the three islands.
eh no, even if they are at an island which doesn't belong to their route, the log pose is still altered by that island after enough time have passed. That's why they couldn't spent more than three days at jaya.
This doens't mean they aren't going to go to one of those three islands, because.
-the time required by the log pose to be altered by the magnetic field of punk ahzard could be too much, like in little garde
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Wait do the new Log Pose need to be reset? I thought they pointed to the 3 nearest islands to the pose .
As he said in 657 - Heroes Hat
Minister "There are even some islands that lose their magnetic waves while you navigate towards them"
Nami " What then how can we get to those islands"
Minister "If you were using only one compass you'd be shipwrecked right there. But what if you have 3 at once"And then goes on to explain how you tap into the differing magnetic pull of the islands. So I can't imagine with the new log pose it relying on the old Log pose way - since it would mean each island would have to adapt 3 differing islands magnetics which all gets confusing - instead it would make sense that the islands adapt as you travel and you have to know when to switch to a new heading.
Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
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instead it would make sense that the islands adapt as you travel and you have to know when to switch to a new heading.
but then you don't need to set foot in the islands. And there wouldn't be any way to know if you path has actually changed, you could end going in circles. In my opinion each island point towards other three.
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Going to Wano immediately isn't the right time since they just entered the New World. Fishman Island Appeared about 500 chapters after fishmen were Introduced. Samurai's and Wano might be the same thing maybe, but not 500 chapters, much less off course. I wonder though will the Issue with Big Mom get resolved first or journey to Wano?
Will Jinbei be The Chopper they recruit before entering a LONG ARC like Alabasta, which will now be Wano? so would that be more likely that the issue with Big Mom Comes before Wano?I really hope we don't have to wait 500 chapters, that just won't be fair. As for what will come first I think Big Mom will come first but I feel like her arc will be bigger then the arc that involves Wano. The only way I can see Wano being anything bigger then the arcs in the East Blue Saga is if the World Governement is messing with the country and the Straw Hats come and save the day.
eh no, even if they are at an island which doesn't belong to their route, the log pose is still altered by that island after enough time have passed. That's why they couldn't spent more than three days at jaya.
This doens't mean they aren't going to go to one of those three islands, because.
-the time required by the log pose to be altered by the magnetic field of punk ahzard could be too much, like in little gardeIts been said that Punk Hazard has no magnetic field for some unknown reason so the log pose will never pick up on a magnetic field which means that it will sti be pointing to the three islands.
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but then you don't need to set foot in the islands. And there wouldn't be any way to know if you path has actually changed, you could end going in circles. In my opinion each island point towards other three.
Yeah that's what I figured and I hope that's how it's going to be. I'd like for Smokey to chase them around for a while, which becomes kind of hit-and-missy since there's always another option of 3 islands… that'd be fun. Doesn't have to be Smoker, just some kind of chase.
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but then you don't need to set foot in the islands. And there wouldn't be any way to know if you path has actually changed, you could end going in circles. In my opinion each island point towards other three.
UGH - you're still thinking singular log pose.
You're following the middle LP the other 2 static - Left LP suddenly changes to a completely different direction and goes haywire you still can follow the middle LP or the Right LP or if you're brave go to this new dangerous island.
No not all islands will be reset just floating around I would say the more stable ones would also have more stable magnetic fields but it seems like this way Oda is giving himself room to move and adapt stories. Also in a brave stance it allows for any new One Piece movies to take place inbetween certain arcs by them visiting islands that appear with the new LP system and then resuming their course to the next arc. Granted it may not be a deliberate associated advantage but one they can now take part in.
Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
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UGH - you're still thinking singular log pose.
You're following the middle LP the other 2 static - Left LP suddenly changes to a completely different direction and goes haywire you still can follow the middle LP or the Right LP or if you're brave go to this new dangerous island.
No not all islands will be reset just floating around I would say the more stable ones would also have more stable magnetic fields but it seems like this way Oda is giving himself room to move and adapt stories. Also in a brave stance it allows for any new One Piece movies to take place inbetween certain arcs by them visiting islands that appear with the new LP system and then resuming their course to the next arc. Granted it may not be a deliberate associated advantage but one they can now take part in.
my bad, I misunderstood you the first time.
Now I totally agree with you. My idea was too complicated because I ignored completely the fact that the some islands can lose their magentic fields. -
my bad, I misunderstood you the first time.
Now I totally agree with you. My idea was too complicated because I ignored completely the fact that the some islands can lose their magentic fields.
All good - I have high hopes for the new LP system - especially how Luffy will probably still follow in Gol D Roger's footsteps and why he is.Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
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All this talk of the Log Pose made me want to reread ch 653 esp the talk between the Minister of the Right and Nami.
Well, Luffy will like that the new log pose doesn't take so long as the single log pose did in the Paradise section. As we all know, in the first half of the Grand Line, each island had its own ammount of time to reset the log pose. It could be anywhere from a few days to a full year (Little Garden).
However in the New World it will take only half a day according to what the Minister of the Right told Nami. http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/653/6Next page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/653/7 has the minister saying that it logs onto the megnetic force coming form the NEXT island on path, in the Paradise section they can rely on the magnetic path to show the way BUT not so in the next half. Not only does the currents and weather change, so do the magnetic paths. "There are islands that lose their maginect forces while you are sailing". The three needles will log a magnetic force coming from different islands.
So what I sumerize from it the New World's Log Pose =
-Takes only a half a day to rest the log pose
-Some islands magnetic force comes and goes, it does not always have be "yes - it has one" or "no- it never had one".
-If the log pose sets from the force coming from the next island ahead, then two things=
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1-they will not be going backwards.
One of the three log poses could still be pointing at an island slightly further back than where they are, I understand it as being three close-by islands that reach the new log pose, not only ones that are technically more south/north than they are (depending on what path the Grand Line actually takes, still think that is actually unsure
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I really hope we don't have to wait 500 chapters, that just won't be fair. As for what will come first I think Big Mom will come first but I feel like her arc will be bigger then the arc that involves Wano. The only way I can see Wano being anything bigger then the arcs in the East Blue Saga is if the World Governement is messing with the country and the Straw Hats come and save the day.
I actuallly think Wano will come first.I think Oda is trying to build an alliance with the Sh crew and Wano country making them to be the first pirates to have samurais on their side.The Shs are going to need allies to take on a Yonkous crew.
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I actuallly think Wano will come first.I think Oda is trying to build an alliance with the Sh crew and Wano country making them to be the first pirates to have samurais on their side.The Shs are going to need allies to take on a Yonkous crew.
Shanks didn't need allies to end the war of the best, and I think Luffy aims for the Red Hair type of crew (quality > quantity).
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Origin of Hell Memories? I think yes.
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Shanks didn't need allies to end the war of the best, and I think Luffy aims for the Red Hair type of crew (quality > quantity).
I doubt shanks doesnt have alllies even if we havent seen them.I assume all Yonkou have alllies.
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Origin of Hell Memories? I think yes.
Lol good find I'm with you on this one. Sure we'll see this asked in an SBS
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Actually a fellow poster of mine at THIS place pointed it out, I'd check them out they have tons of good theories floating around.
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I made that theory about sanji basing his moves off of okama moves like bon kurei and ivan a while ago it was just too obvious
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I think there is a really old thread for bounties and such but this should be fine.
Any thoughts on future bounty titles? At this point I can't see Brook being known only as humming Brook, especially after being a hit world wide and adopting the name Soul King. Though him and Usopp are just about the only ones I can imagine with new titles I wouldn't be surprised with anyone else getting a title change.
Luffy - Same
Zoro - Same I suppose
Sanji - Wouldn't be surprised if he got Devil's Leg or something like that.
Usopp - Sniper King Usopp/Sogeking Usopp
Nami - Something weather related I imagine
Chopper - Something monster/mad doctor related. A Jekyll & Hyde/Dr Frankenstein deal.
Robin - I guess if Demon Child didn't change in her late 20's it won't change anytime soon.
Franky - Can't see it changing.
Brook - Soul King
Jinbe - ;)Don't really care much for the titles themselves, but more about the possibility of them changing. Anyone have any good reasons on why their bounty titles would stay the same for the rest of the series or otherwise?
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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I think there is a really old thread for bounties and such but this should be fine.
Any thoughts on future bounty titles? At this point I can't see Brook being known only as humming Brook, especially after being a hit world wide and adopting the name Soul King. Though him and Usopp are just about the only ones I can imagine with new titles I wouldn't be surprised with anyone else getting a title change.
Luffy - Same
Zoro - Same I suppose
Sanji - Wouldn't be surprised if he got Devil's Leg or something like that.
Usopp - Sniper King Usopp/Sogeking Usopp
Nami - Something weather related I imagine
Chopper - Something monster/mad doctor related. A Jekyll & Hyde/Dr Frankenstein deal.
Robin - I guess if Demon Child didn't change in her late 20's it won't change anytime soon.
Franky - Can't see it changing.
Brook - Soul King
Jinbe - ;)Don't really care much for the titles themselves, but more about the possibility of them changing. Anyone have any good reasons on why their bounty titles would stay the same for the rest of the series or otherwise?
Sanji doesn't need to change his title. It's a perfect reference to Zeff.
Brook will probably change his "Humming" to the much more famous "Soul King".
Chopper will probably keep his title for the lols.
About Jinbe. Is his title "Knight of the Sea" or "First Son of the Sea"? I've seen both being used before.
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It'd be funny if they got a new picture of Chopper in his massive monster form and kept the title "Cotton Candy Lover"
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Made me laugh, Chopper in his Monster Point, and still have the title, "Cotten Candy Lover" xD But probably the WG'll keep Chopper in his reindeer-human hybrid form, as that is the form Chopper is usually in.
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How about Weather Witch Nami? She used be called a witch in the past and the whole sorcery clima tact thing adds to it.
I still find it weird Zoro is called "Pirate Hunter" though, since he isn't a bounty hunter anymore. Demon 3 Swords Zoro? I mean Vista and Brook have epithets to their sword style and Zoro should too.
And how about "Flashing Nipples Franky"
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Zoro needs to say as 'pirate hunter',that's how's he known through out the world and that's his established epithet.It's the irony that makes it extra special.
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Eh I guess so, but even when he was still a bounty hunter he didn't really take down anyone much of importance to be known around the world as a "pirate hunter"
Sanji needs an actual picture for his new bounty, the joke that his picture looks nothing like him is old now. Although it would be funny if somehow his picture was him dressed as an Okama.
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Eh I guess so, but even when he was still a bounty hunter he didn't really take down anyone much of importance to be known around the world as a "pirate hunter"
Sanji needs an actual picture for his new bounty, the joke that his picture looks nothing like him is old now. Although it would be funny if somehow his picture was him dressed as an Okama.
His reaction would be priceless if he was dressed like that..He'd probably just drop dead.
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Sanji's gonna get another Mr. Prince moment.
Except instead of "Mr. Prince", he'll be "Miss Princess".
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His reaction would be priceless if he was dressed like that..He'd probably just drop dead.
Well in the manga we never see a picture of Okama Sanji but in the anime, Iva-chan has one.
[HIDE]http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc415/Katzztar/Sanjiindrag-closeup.jpg[/HIDE]Of course some DAartist have already made some jokes=
[h=1]sanji's wanted poster funny
OP Comic: Sanji's new wanted poster p. 1,
OP Comic: Sanji's new wanted poster p. 2
His Usual Luck [/h]these are a few I found within a minute …. but I'll be looking for more :evil laugh:
