No one else who has used haki has had their body parts turn black. So far, the black hardening effect (vulcanization, whatever) is a CoA ability that is exclusive to Luffy. If Oda was trying to use the black effect as a means to show haki usage I would think he would've been showing it alot earlier with other haki using characters.
Chapter 637: "The Ancient Ark"- Discussion
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You know, when he says Gomu Gomu no Jet Pistol, his arms don't actually turn into jets nor pistols. Accurate or not, arguing about it seems foolish when: 1) it's been discussed before & 2) there's far more interesting things about this chapter to discuss…
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You know, when he says Gomu Gomu no Jet Pistol, his arms don't actually turn into jets nor pistols.
Hahahahahahaha , I think that about raps up everything.
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Maybe it's an advance CoA skill. Maybe Luffy is applying CoA on his very tissue not just coating his arm with it. If other guys use CoA this way, maybe they also get their skin 'darkened'. Well, these are just maybes, just wanted to contribute.
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@Robo:
No, no, no. Don't try this shit. "Incredibly" is a strong descriptor. It's a REALLY strong descriptor. It's no splitting hairs, and it shows that you really don't understand a damn thing. As you will see in the rest of my response, you're consistently using sloppy and hyperbolic language, then getting whiny about me calling you out on it.
A piece of plaster is harder than a piece of paper. It does not follow that a person made out of paper who can punch through steel is therefore made of paper mache just because it happens that he turns white. MUCH or WAY or LOTS, and especially INCREDIBLY are all hyperbolic.
The fact only Luffy changes color is an entirely different point that you are conflating. It's irrelevant to what you quoted.
Your actual point about Luffy appearing to harden his flesh is actually something of substance, except you commit another logical fallacy. The fact we haven't seen anyone else do it is not in fact evidence only Luffy can. We just learned about these abilities and there is surely much we haven't seen. But again, this is not in any way related to the point I was actually making, which have spectacularly avoided with a gymnast's skill. Either way, my point is that armament haki supplements the strength of the user. That's how it works. Luffy's version is different from what we've seen, but there is no reason to think it has to do with his rubber abilities. That's a huge logical leap.
Therefore vulcanization, right?
This really isn't even worth replying to, because it's just a stupid "No, you!" response, but why not. The difference is people are persistently repeating vulcanization because it has become a buzzword on this forum. 90% of these people had never heard of vulcanization before hearing it from someone else on these forums. A substantial portion of these people still don't know what it means.
I'm not correcting you in the interest of making myself feel smarter (I already know I'm awesome) but to try to get you to stop annoying the rest of us by having to read this fucking word over and over again.
Oh, I know exactly what you're saying. But you're saying it wrong, and I need you to see that. The problem is that you engage in hyperbole and bad analogies to equivocate poorly constructed ideas and lash out when people like me explain that your arguments are incoherent.
What you're trying to say is that everyone here is not speaking literally, they're being metaphoric. Even if they are, they still are LITERALLY saying Luffy is vulcanized (that's how metaphor works). Which you denied. Ridiculous. Also, I find your claim that people here are being metaphorical pretty much a huge stretch, though it's nice you want to give them so much credit. No snark, I mean that.
If, in the end Oda wants to say Luffy is vulcanized, whatever. I won't argue, even though it's stupid. Hell, I might even agree that the black coloration is a reference to vulcanization, but that's not what the problem is.
Right now, there is not enough evidence to say that Luffy is vulcanized, so anyone who says different is making a bad argument. If, next week, Oda personally writes a not saying "Luffy is vulcanizing himself" that still won't make your arguments better. Leave your poetic metaphors in your creative writing journal, and keep that shit out of here.
It's a forum, he can use whatever words he wants. If nobody wrote using words like 'incredibly', then it'd be far more boring. Anyway, who cares? This seems like some pathetic attempt to feel bigger than someone else, berating them for stuff that doesn't matter.
According to his quote, he did not commit said logical fallacy. I have not read his post directly, but I've read where you quoted him. Nowhere in the quote you posted does he say that only Luffy can do it. You're beginning to look really stupid.
Oda used the japanese term for vulcanisation in his manga. That's why people are talking about it. If you don't like it, seriously just go away. And if you think you're awesome - great. Nobody else does, trust me.
He's saying it wrong?! What the hell? This is a forum, and you're trying to kill the fun. No he should not have to keep metaphors etc in his creative writing journal, if you ask me this forum could use much more interesting comments. Stop trying to suppress creativity, and bring people down.
You just pulled all that about metaphoric language being literal straight out of your ass, trying to sound smart. (It can only be considered literal when you're using a completely different meaning for literal - as in literary.) Seriously, you were 100% wrong, INCREDIBLY wrong, you could say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_and_figurative_language
Metaphor: [met-uh-fawr, -fer] –noun 1. a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance…Sigh.. I just can't stand people like you. Acting superior when it's oh so clear that you're not.
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Prediction:
The key to stop Noah lies in Cariboo's hands. He could use his swamp swallowing move on Shirahoshi. Then we have a conflict of devil fruit powers, haven't we ?
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Fun chapter, but I admit I wanted to see more of the crew. Cool to see Luffy fight using his new style and the power of it, though. I wish I had more time to digest and regurgitate all my thoughts on the chapter.
The 141 year old appears! Good to see her going stronger than ever.
The plot is finally moving again, though I have to admit I want to see more of what the crew can do. I suppose I'm impatient. I'm torn on what will happen with Noah. We could get sea kings or Luffy could use Decken to redirect it by forcing his hand, or some third option. Hody has become a bit more of a wild card, but he still has more beat down in store for him yet.
To be clear, since I know Luffy turning black is the cause of a lot of contention. My take on it (which I feel very confident of this time around) is that the black coloring is a rubber based ability that utilizes armor haki, which I suppose could have been called gear 4. This, in effect, gives us a visual cue for when Luffy is using armor haki. However, when armor haki is used by itself we should not expect the objects to turn black, even in Luffy's case.
@Robo:
Right now, there is not enough evidence to say that Luffy is vulcanized, so anyone who says different is making a bad argument.
Umm, yes, there is. It comes from the Japanese used when he fought against the kraken (chapter 605):
Just chiming in to say that mangastream has mistranslated rufy's attack name, which is indeed
Color of Armaments : Vulcanization
The name of the attack is 硬化 which could also mean hardening, but the color luffy becomes makes it very clear that it is indeed vulcanization.
硬化 means "curing" a polymer, which in the case of rubber is also called "vulcanization".
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?Dude, he just touched it and shoved it a little. []
That's it I think.I don't know myself, and I understand the ark's too big to lift, so I trust that you're right, but I just wanted to know why he would say that he threw it if he didn't? That's why I stated that maybe he was implying something different by saying he "threw it".
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@Robo Tussin: Tell us how you really feel
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As soon as people started pointing out Luffy calling the attack vulcanization against the cracker Robo Tussin shut up ;I
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Why do people refuse the vulcanization though too deeply?
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I really wonder if and more importantly how the karate dojo will be introduced as things are now, there is no room for it.
Maybe it will be tied to caribous story line if that guy doesn't mix things up in the current affairs.does that karate dojo even matter
i mean in that same panal they also mentioned the mermaid cafe and papagg lied about knowing the princess, when why would he even bring her up when it seems NO one could have seen her in 10 years
but look the mermaid cafe was mentioned and look how IMPORTANT that was to teh story. it had zero to do with it. we like stopped outside of it and then saw arlongs sister in the back, whom could have been shown in any other store or randomly on teh street or hell even have a fortune predicting shop of some sorts.
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does that karate dojo even matter
i mean in that same panal they also mentioned the mermaid cafe and papagg lied about knowing the princess, when why would he even bring her up when it seems NO one could have seen her in 10 years
but look the mermaid cafe was mentioned and look how IMPORTANT that was to teh story. it had zero to do with it. we like stopped outside of it and then saw arlongs sister in the back, whom could have been shown in any other store or randomly on teh street or hell even have a fortune predicting shop of some sorts.
It's not about importance to the current story. It's about looking at One Piece from a metaperspective. Do I as a reader want to get a look at the Dojo?Personally, absolutely. I mean it's the place where Fishman Karate stems from. Personally I find FK to be quite interesting. So considering that the question that has to be asked is "Does Oda think that his readers want to see the dojo?". If Oda believes that we want to see it chances are he'll probably introduce it.
Also the mermaid cafe was certainly important to the story if you look at it what functions it did fulfull. It made it possible for the Strawhats to meet Madam Shirley and it was a keypoint for introducing to us what defines fishman island. Things like these create the atmosphere which I regard as very important to the story.
Of course Madam Shirley could have introduced to the Strawhats on the streets of fishman island shops. But would it have had the same impact?
Half the things we know about shirley stem from the place she was introduced from. Mermaid cafe is a popular place on fishman island, it tells us that Shirley has also influence on Fishman island beyond being a believable fortuneteller. It's the small things that make the big things awesome.It's what sets OnePiece apart from Bleach where every place is white nothingness. Soul Society? The Living Realm? The place where Hollow live which name I forgot? all the same white so whatever.
But yeah at the same time I kind of agree that its very unlikely at this point that we get a look at it since were well over the phase where fishman island gets defined for us.
Still like I said I wonder if it would be introduced will it tie to the next story arc(which may be about caribou)? Will it be a after thing?
Although we never had 2 story arcs in the same place doesn't mean it won't happen and if it happens Fishman Island certainly has in my opinion enough places left that might be interesting to explore.
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Why do people refuse the vulcanization though too deeply?
It's just basic facts. We have Usopp who didn't die from Enel's attacks. Just try to understand a bit and be more rubberish and flexible in mind.Why would Usopp HAVE DIED from the attacks? I think its pretty well known he has one of the more stronger physical defense (capable of taking hits) in the crew next to Luffy and Zoro
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It's not about importance to the current story. It's about looking at One Piece from a metaperspective. Do I as a reader want to get a look at the Dojo?Personally, absolutely. I mean it's the place where Fishman Karate stems from. Personally I find FK to be quite interesting. So considering that the question that has to be asked is "Does Oda think that his readers want to see the dojo?". If Oda believes that we want to see it chances are he'll probably introduce it.
Also the mermaid cafe was certainly important to the story if you look at it what functions it did fulfull. It made it possible for the Strawhats to meet Madam Shirley and it was a keypoint for introducing to us what defines fishman island. Things like these create the atmosphere which I regard as very important to the story.
Of course Madam Shirley could have introduced to the Strawhats on the streets of fishman island shops. But would it have had the same impact?
Half the things we know about shirley stem from the place she was introduced from. Mermaid cafe is a popular place on fishman island, it tells us that Shirley has also influence on Fishman island beyond being a believable fortuneteller. It's the small things that make the big things awesome.It's what sets OnePiece apart from Bleach where every place is white nothingness. Soul Society? The Living Realm? The place where Hollow live which name I forgot? all the same white so whatever.
But yeah at the same time I kind of agree that its very unlikely at this point that we get a look at it since were well over the phase where fishman island gets defined for us.
Still like I said I wonder if it would be introduced will it tie to the next story arc(which may be about caribou)? Will it be a after thing?
Although we never had 2 story arcs in the same place doesn't mean it won't happen and if it happens Fishman Island certainly has in my opinion enough places left that might be interesting to explore.
Also the possibility exist that the Dojo may be introduced during a cover story.see i know what your saying, but i don't think it applies in this scenerio
learn about fishman karate? yea sure great, but i doubt we are going to head over to the dojo and they just randonly go all hunter x hunter on us and explain to us how fishman karate works.
we are only going to learn about fishman karate from fishman using it. they aren't going to sit and explain it to us. Jimbei already did more than any dojo would have done. he told us as much explanation that needs to be said. he told us how they can use the water in the air, or even their's and opponents bodies to attack and thus it bypasses and defenses. do we need a lesson telling us how that magically works? hell no, its a fantasy world, would telling us fishman use midiclorians that are exclusive to their race in order to do fishman karate make you happy? it would be pointless, we dont' need to know HOW fishman are able to do that with the water only that, that is what they do. Then from knowing they can manipulate the water somehow we can see how somehow the rest of their attacks fit that pattern.
i mean did we learn the exact details on how zoro's blade attacks fly? no, we just learned that you can send flying blade attacks. and now that we do know that we can see mihawk do something insane like he did or see zoro do his tornado move ect.
there is a difference between bringing a world together as you say and to learning irrelevant things.
The only reason i would be tempeted to see this dojo is i'm curious to see how it looks. does it have random waterfalls or watershoots all over the place. is tehre water basins sitting around. is it underwater? ect. Just be neat to see what kind of atmosphere their dojo is. i mean hell maybe its just a plain old looking dojo like zoro's. but see how i have like 100 different ideas in my head. Seeing the dojo accomplishes just that one aspect of the one peice world. I woudl know what it looks like versus my imagination picturing it how i think it would. Its a small thing that just as you said improves a story and makes the world seem believable and real versus say bleach where the world consists of just ichigo's house, urahara shop and the school. but what did we all see in fishman island. we saw cafe as you said, we saw rich district, we saw poor district. we saw how mermaids float/swim around the island. we saw their shops, their graveyard, their slums, their palace, their palace's defense/entrance. and could continue. seems we have seen everything there is to know and possibly imagine about fishman island except one little dojo.
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Why would Usopp HAVE DIED from the attacks? I think its pretty well known he has one of the more stronger physical defense (capable of taking hits) in the crew next to Luffy and Zoro
usopp is what you would call a character who has plot ki defense.
subsitute chopper, franky, zoro, luffy, brook, ect. anyone in the CREW who is main characters obviously and they would also be able to survive whatever blow usopp did. just for the sole reason they CAN'T die.
obviously the girls never take those hits cause their girls and we don't want to see them breaking bones and what not. but i've seen every other character take just as bad or wrose hits than usopp has. just cause something looks bad doesn't mean it is as bad.
i mean imagine blackbeard throwing a 50 pound steel ball at usopps face. now imagine him throwing same said ball at franky's face. now which of those manga panals do you imagine will look like it hurt more? obviously usopp. does this mean he is capable of taking more extreme hits than franky? nothing of the sort.
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Certainly good arguments which kind of eliminates one reason why the dojo could be interesting to us. Which is FK.
But is that all that the Dojo could offer us? I don't think so. If god forbid Jimbei really joins. The dojo could actually be a good keypoint cementing his joining.
It could introduce to us a mentor figure of Jimbei(or memory of one) which is something typical for a strawhat (ok except brook, kind of). Help introducing us a dream of Jimbei. Also maybe show us a few more fighters of FK. An argument of why Jimbei can't join was that he doesn't have a lot of room to grow. Now introducing to us a character that represents the absolute ceiling of FK might counter that. I don't know there might be more possibilities that the introduction of the dojo could deliver. I just don't believe that the dojo doesn't have any potential to be relevant in some way.But again like I stated I know that it currently has no room for introduction.
Edit: Scratch the mentor figure thing since I forgot about Fisher Tiger… the rest still stands for discussion
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@SantoryuUser7: Perhaps this is just what Van Der Decken calls the use of his power, even if he isn't technically throwing anything. He clearly is strong, since he threw that gigantic axe, which arced back to Shirahoshi, but there's no way he could actually lift and throw Noah. I find it confusing, too…
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Certainly good arguments which kind of eliminates one reason why the dojo could be interesting to us. Which is FK.
But is that all that the Dojo could offer us? I don't think so. If god forbid Jimbei really joins. The dojo could actually be a good keypoint cementing his joining.
It could introduce to us a mentor figure of Jimbei(or memory of one) which is something typical for a strawhat (ok except brook, kind of). Help introducing us a dream of Jimbei. Also maybe show us a few more fighters of FK. An argument of why Jimbei can't join was that he doesn't have a lot of room to grow. Now introducing to us a character that represents the absolute ceiling of FK might counter that. I don't know there might be more possibilities that the introduction of the dojo could deliver. I just don't believe that the dojo doesn't have any potential to be relevant in some way.But again like I stated I know that it currently has no room for introduction.
Edit: Scratch the mentor figure thing since I forgot about Fisher Tiger… the rest still stands for discussion
ha, was just going to mention fisher tiger as mentor but saw you edited it.
but sorry i don't like thinking of USING something for teh sake of something else. Seems forced to me if in order for jimbei to join we went to his dojo to have some chinese dude say "i'm proud of you boy, go pursue your dream"
but as many even myself is interested in seeing all that fishman karate can do, that is the ONLY reason i would want someone new to join crew. I want to see a bunch of cool fishman attacks. I mean sure we might get some this arc from enemies and in future arc's when we call on our allies to help, but seeing someone use it totally different than seeing somone PROGRESS in it. I mean imagine if zoro just joined and was doing what he was doing now. i personally think it much cooler that we saw him back when he only had onigiri and tiger slash. then later a few more and then a flying slash and then a ect. which is also why i dislike jimbei joining. i feel like we would miss out on the progress aspect.
hell this is also kind of why i wouldn't mind seeing the princess join. would be cool to see her slowly command sea beasts and on up to sea kings. but lo and behold we are going to probably just see her all of a sudden realize how to talk to sea kings like her first language somehow. But i mean imagine if we had a mermaid from say ch. 2 and we started with just fish, then onto dophins to sharks to whales ect, then to sea beast and finally to sea kings. it would have been cool to see. i like the story and the progress, i don't like just skipping to the end. which in the princess case will most likely be the scenerio. and as i said in jimbeis case it seems to be as well. jimbei seems to be the strongest fishman in the world, and seems to have mastmered fishman karate and even a super doped up on drugs beyond belief "GREAT WHITE SHARK" fishman is seen as childsplay compared to his expertise.
sorry but i'm just not that interested in seeing a MASTER join our crew
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@SantoryuUser7: Perhaps this is just what Van Der Decken calls the use of his power, even if he isn't technically throwing anything. He clearly is strong, since he threw that gigantic axe, which arced back to Shirahoshi, but there's no way he could actually lift and throw Noah. I find it confusing, too…
might be as simple as touch an inanimate object with said hand and "WILL" it toward the target.
i mean the arrows, he didn't even throw really, he just tossed straight up, hell woudln't be surprised if he could have just dropped them, but as long as he WILLED them to fly toward target they would.
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see i know what your saying, but i don't think it applies in this scenerio
learn about fishman karate? yea sure great, but i doubt we are going to head over to the dojo and they just randonly go all hunter x hunter on us and explain to us how fishman karate works.
we are only going to learn about fishman karate from fishman using it. they aren't going to sit and explain it to us. Jimbei already did more than any dojo would have done. he told us as much explanation that needs to be said. he told us how they can use the water in the air, or even their's and opponents bodies to attack and thus it bypasses and defenses. do we need a lesson telling us how that magically works? hell no, its a fantasy world, would telling us fishman use midiclorians that are exclusive to their race in order to do fishman karate make you happy? it would be pointless, we dont' need to know HOW fishman are able to do that with the water only that, that is what they do. Then from knowing they can manipulate the water somehow we can see how somehow the rest of their attacks fit that pattern.
i mean did we learn the exact details on how zoro's blade attacks fly? no, we just learned that you can send flying blade attacks. and now that we do know that we can see mihawk do something insane like he did or see zoro do his tornado move ect.
there is a difference between bringing a world together as you say and to learning irrelevant things.
The only reason i would be tempeted to see this dojo is i'm curious to see how it looks. does it have random waterfalls or watershoots all over the place. is tehre water basins sitting around. is it underwater? ect. Just be neat to see what kind of atmosphere their dojo is. i mean hell maybe its just a plain old looking dojo like zoro's. but see how i have like 100 different ideas in my head. Seeing the dojo accomplishes just that one aspect of the one peice world. I woudl know what it looks like versus my imagination picturing it how i think it would. Its a small thing that just as you said improves a story and makes the world seem believable and real versus say bleach where the world consists of just ichigo's house, urahara shop and the school. but what did we all see in fishman island. we saw cafe as you said, we saw rich district, we saw poor district. we saw how mermaids float/swim around the island. we saw their shops, their graveyard, their slums, their palace, their palace's defense/entrance. and could continue. seems we have seen everything there is to know and possibly imagine about fishman island except one little dojo.
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usopp is what you would call a character who has plot ki defense.
subsitute chopper, franky, zoro, luffy, brook, ect. anyone in the CREW who is main characters obviously and they would also be able to survive whatever blow usopp did. just for the sole reason they CAN'T die.
obviously the girls never take those hits cause their girls and we don't want to see them breaking bones and what not. but i've seen every other character take just as bad or wrose hits than usopp has. just cause something looks bad doesn't mean it is as bad.
i mean imagine blackbeard throwing a 50 pound steel ball at usopps face. now imagine him throwing same said ball at franky's face. now which of those manga panals do you imagine will look like it hurt more? obviously usopp. does this mean he is capable of taking more extreme hits than franky? nothing of the sort.
Franky is half cyborg so its strange for his case but Oda make it clear to point out in Alabasta from the chipmunk (i forget the number) that NO ONE should survive that hammer to the face. I mean its one thing to leave it unmentioned but thats specifically stated
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Franky is half cyborg so its strange for his case but Oda make it clear to point out in Alabasta from the chipmunk (i forget the number) that NO ONE should survive that hammer to the face. I mean its one thing to leave it unmentioned but thats specifically stated
chipmunk?
you mean the mole lady? you mean an enemy stating "no way someone survived that" as being cannonical fact?
thats a joke, it seems every other word out of enemies mouths in mangas are about how no one could have survived that, while having a gaping mouth open
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does that karate dojo even matter
i mean in that same panal they also mentioned the mermaid cafe and papagg lied about knowing the princess, when why would he even bring her up when it seems NO one could have seen her in 10 years
but look the mermaid cafe was mentioned and look how IMPORTANT that was to teh story. it had zero to do with it. we like stopped outside of it and then saw arlongs sister in the back, whom could have been shown in any other store or randomly on teh street or hell even have a fortune predicting shop of some sorts.
Have you ever heard of Chekhov's Gun? It's something Oda is particularly fond of. Plus, the Mermaid Cafe still had a role, regardless of its importance.
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Franky is half cyborg so its strange for his case but Oda make it clear to point out in Alabasta from the chipmunk (i forget the number) that NO ONE should survive that hammer to the face. I mean its one thing to leave it unmentioned but thats specifically stated
The penguin who said no one could survive getting hit by a 4 ton bat got hit by the same 4 ton bat 1 chapter later and didn't die, her line was added for comedic and/or dramatic affect and nothing more.
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Will there be a chapter this week?
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Will there be a chapter this week?
I think so, 'cause I haven't heard anything about a break this week.
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Yes, chapter should be around and translated in less than 24 hours.
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Cnet 's tranlation of the chapter 637:
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@skr:
I like the fact that Luffy could dodge the Yabusame water shot attack and, along with "He knows where they are going to fly" comment, heavily implies that he can use the CoO (Mantra) with some proficiency. Albeit I believe Luffy will have to face another user of the CoO for him to get better at it- having both opponents able to predict the others offenses and defenses will compound the difficulty (I'd say negate, but they'd still have to be actively using it to cope with each other.)
Back in Impel Down, I believe Blackbeard offhandedly mentioned after he was punched that Luffy's haki had gotten stronger, which leads me to think that it is in every attack to some degree even without the blackening. I am slowly growing fond of the arm blackening thing. At first it put me off a little bit, but I wondered how else a new ability could be shown. A power aura like DBZ would seem out of place, gear 2 already causes steam, flushing, as well as heat waves, and leaving the attacks looking normal would be a bit confusing and unacceptable. So I was pretty happy with Luffy showing the versatility of his new moves and the fact that he doesn't need to be in dire straits to use them. (no apparent draw backs so far like gear 3 and the shrinkage.)
If Noah really is an Ancient Weapon, I'll be curious to see if Franky recognizes it as such. Robin read the ponys but I can't imagine she saw a drawn out picture of the weapons, but Franky studied his copy of the blueprints for one of the weapons so he should have a passing familiarity with why they were taboo.
Looks like a lot of detail went into the Noah.
It would be nice to know if the items Decken throws keep the same orientation when flung at a target (i.e. and arrow throw like a javelin would go tip first always towards the target). If that is the case, the Noah might have to gradually change directions which could still pop/damage the bubble with a wide turn.Also it was a bit hard to tell where exactly the Dagger hit Shirahoshi. She turned away and blood spatter at the location could be anywere from shoulder to shoulder.
Excellent chapter, feels like the Water 7 portion is wrapping up and we will get to the Enies Lobby portion of the arc soon ^_^
(really hoping Franky can get a piece of that Light Tree above, it would make for awesome possibilities along with the Treasure Tree Adam wood on the sunny.)See these are the kind of comments i like, not always bitching and moaning about a FUCKING COLOUR!!! why cant we have discussions on what might happen next instead of arguing if Oda has made the right move. He has. End of
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