No, I'm pretty sure he excluded the one he needs the Rumble Ball for. From cnet's translation:
"Chopper: I've spent these past two years improving all seven of my Transformation Points! / There's only one form I need the Rumble Ball for now!!
The other six, I can use freely at any time!!" But yeah it's still seven in total, nothing hints at an eighth official form right now.
Except his monster form, which can be seen as an "eighth".
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Its just strange that they only show 5, which is missing arm point and jump point. I cannot imagine his arm point getting anymore muscular, so i defiantely am favoring Chopper combining forms together. Currently, if we speculate his kung fu point is a mixture of different transformations, then I would prefer the rumble ball to allow him to mix even more of his forms, or all his forms combined.
What's with the name of the chapter? It was something else last time I checked.
I'm not sure if he's really going to count his monster form as a point. I mean, the way he corrects the fishman by saying he's a pesky "Monster", he may already have full control over it.
Chances are good though that's his unknown point.
What's with the name of the chapter? It was something else last time I checked.
it refers to franky's mecha
But how was the title mistranslated so badly earlier 
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¿? when was it minstraslated? this is aohige's trans from the spoilers "Chapter 636: The General from the Future Land"
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BTW he used an Rumble Ball for Guard Point post TS Surume already… So something is wrong there
This is just a guess but that might have been a mistake on Oda's part, like Zoro's eye. Oda has to get used to the new stuff. The other options are, Chopper needs the rumble to use guard point (unlikely), or he can now use rumble balls to make his points more powerful, or it wasn't a rumble ball but some new pill that makes his point more powerful or does something else interesting.
I doubt it's a mistake.
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Like Cypher said it could be a power up thing now, that he uses it to enhance his forms as well as enabling the monster form.
OR, it could be that because they were after all facing THE KRAKEN that he was planning to transform into his monster form.
Oh woops. I mistook this chapter for last chapter. That's where all the mixup came from.
Actually thats inaccurate.Pre timeskip Chopper had 7 main Transformations.Post timeskip Chopper said he reinforced those 7 transformations making them more powerful.So the number of transformations is still 7 only that they are more powerful.
Oh, my bad. :/ I thought he was only talking about the points he needed the Rumble Ball for pre-timeskip because he was talking about the Rumble Ball at the time. xD
No, I'm pretty sure he excluded the one he needs the Rumble Ball for. From cnet's translation:
"Chopper: I've spent these past two years improving all seven of my Transformation Points! / There's only one form I need the Rumble Ball for now!!
The other six, I can use freely at any time!!" But yeah it's still seven in total, nothing hints at an eighth official form right now.
in the same sense, nothing says there isn't more than 7.
he says he improved his 7 forms, he says nothing about adding any.
he also doesn't say how many total forms he can do without or with rumble, just says out of his original 7, he can do six without a rumble ball.
its a very vague open ended statement by chopper/oda, that leaves it open to let him have more forms if he wants
If Kung FuPoint was in the picture with Guard, Horn, and Walk Point then I'm sure that he doesn't have all 7 originals. He probably dropped that useless jump point and fused it with another or something.
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If Kung FuPoint was in the picture with Guard, Horn, and Walk Point then I'm sure that he doesn't have all 7 originals. He probably dropped that useless jump point and fused it with another or something.
I'm thinking it got fused with Horn, given how he's now bipedal in that form.
Its just strange that they only show 5, which is missing arm point and jump point. I cannot imagine his arm point getting anymore muscular, so i defiantely am favoring Chopper combining forms together. Currently, if we speculate his kung fu point is a mixture of different transformations, then I would prefer the rumble ball to allow him to mix even more of his forms, or all his forms combined.
Wrong, first of all, Heavy Point (his "human" form) is missing, which won't be fused with another form simply because it is one of the 3 "default/standard" forms every Zoan user can transform into - it's illogical for Chopper to mess up basic powers of his fruit. That's like changing one of the primary attributes of Luffy's Rubber fruit, for example. Anyways, that means 1 more is still unknown - plus his monster form.
I agree though that it would have been nice to see him create more forms instead of altering and changing his existing ones. But I'll say again that Walking, Human and Brain Point will always stay what they are.
I'm not sure if he's really going to count his monster form as a point. I mean, the way he corrects the fishman by saying he's a pesky "Monster", he may already have full control over it.
Chances are good though that's his unknown point.
Pretty sure he doesn't count it, because it's more of an "overdrive" than a form of its own. When he told the Fishman that he's a "Monster", I think what it actually meant was that he finally accepted what he is - he is now proud of what he previously despised, when humans chased him and called him a "monster". Now he is proud to be one.
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I'm thinking it got fused with Horn, given how he's now bipedal in that form.
Yeah, this is much more likely. Now there's 1 more form which can be anything, and his Human form, then we should have seen them all (excluding Monster Form of course) - assuming that he really still has only 7, that is.
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"
…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
That's ….....quite a logical solution. Bit un-exciting and not very dramatic, but very practical. Do it Oda, you know you want to.
Didn't we see that letter gently follow Shirahoshi around in the flashback? I'm guessing she must have come into contact with it at some point without it stopping, so… yeah, I guess that stuff works however it needs to work for plot's sake at any given moment.
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
But they don't know where is it comming form and they don't know that it is flying to Shirahoshi.
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
That may be the best option to stop that ship BUT no one knows who that ship is targetting or how its moving.They can only guess.
Btw About Chopper forms i think the way it goes is Rumble now powers up all his forms while also enabling him to go to his 7th form.
We have 3 basic forms which are Human/Walk/Brain and seen 3 advanced forms Horn/Kung-Fu/Defence.
Imo Kung-fu point is evolved Arm Point and Jump Point is rolled into Horn Point.
This opens up a new form which we will probably see in the future like we did pre time skip horn point.
And then there is the monster form which is caused by overdose and choppers fruit going out of controll.That form isnt a natural thing and i really dont think chopper can transform into that normally.
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
seems logical, though how fast is noah going though?
i mean imagine a semi driving 100 miles an hour at you. have fun running up to it and touching it.
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
but the ark would kill shirahoshi…
Currently, if we speculate his kung fu point is a mixture of different transformations, then I would prefer the rumble ball to allow him to mix even more of his forms, or all his forms combined.
His points are different styles of fighting. I don't see Oda combining an insanely large guard point with any other points such as arm point, heavy point, or jump point. It just wouldn't work out to be in a defensive and offensive form at the same time. I could however see certain points morphing, like kung fu point being arm point and jump point. Horn point now upgrading along with jump point attached to it.
His points are different styles of fighting. I don't see Oda combining an insanely large guard point with any other points such as arm point, heavy point, or jump point. It just wouldn't work out to be in a defensive and offensive form at the same time. I could however see certain points morphing, like kung fu point being arm point and jump point. Horn point now upgrading along with jump point attached to it.
Iuno, i could see heavy point and guard point being combined to form the One Piece version of Choji's meat tank xD albeit a very hairy one :D
Iuno, i could see heavy point and guard point being combined to form the One Piece version of Choji's meat tank xD albeit a very hairy one :D
Even if Oda had this idea years ago, when chopper and his guard point were introduced (which was before chouji's meat tank was introduced), I don't think he'd implement it now, because of Naruto. Even I think it would be kind of dumb and look like a stolen idea.
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
I said that too D:< I said she could just go onboard the ship
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i say shirahoshi will summon the seakings and the seakings will either drove away or destroy the ark…
Even if Oda had this idea years ago, when chopper and his guard point were introduced (which was before chouji's meat tank was introduced), I don't think he'd implement it now, because of Naruto. Even I think it would be kind of dumb and look like a stolen idea.
the dumb look is exactly why i want it XD it would fit perfectly with One Piece, and u can be sure it wouldn't be used that many times lol. Kinda like zoro or sanji tossing him up, so he can drop bak down like a furry meteor XD
I said that too D:< I said she could just go onboard the ship
So… Surume throws helps her on, keeping their distance from Hodi and keeping Noah at bay… the problem here, though, is momentum. The ark might not stop that suddenly. Or, she could call her Sea King friends to help her slow it to a stop. That depends on how well she can communicate with the Sea Kings.
Ah, whatever. Hodi's gonna kill himself with those pills anyway. So, Shirley, what were you saying about FI being destroyed? By the way things can work out here, it seems there's something else yet to happen for that prediction to come true... and I don't mean Caribou.
For Luffy to be responsible for destroying the island, there has to be a really good reason, but it's not here yet. And I doubt Big Mam is going to show up any time soon. As for all those NFP left leaderless, they can be corralled. So, what are we missing?
I say we have a big twist coming. Something THIS big.
About the Franky mecha thing, I don't get why people are so against it. Technology and building are Franky's things, and as long as it doesn't branch out to the other crew members (Sunny included) I think it's fine. :)
Back to chopper, I think it's safe to assume that guard, brain, walk, horn, and kung-fu points don't require the rumble ball considering the fact that they were pictured when chopper said that he can freely change into the other six. If this is the case, then that means that kung-fu is also considered a part of the "upgraded seven", meaning that it must have replaced/fused with one/some of chopper's other forms. This is most likely arm and/or jumping. The positive part about this is that jumping was kind of useless in an offensive-battling perspective, but the negative part is that none of chopper's forms that we've seen thus far are intimidating in the least (I like horn point, but it's too "cute") which is a characteristic I felt was well represented by jumping AND arm. And kung-fu is just plain unattractive. So I believe that the rumble ball form refers to an unknown point, heavy point is probably one of the six that he can transform into at will, and I don't believe monster has been mentioned by chopper yet so that one is just out there and completely mysterious.
What I really wanna know is why Oda decided to stick with 7 forms? Either he doesn't want to constantly switch between a dozen forms, or, as someone said, he may not have mentioned possible extra forms. I just want a form, other than monster, that looks ferocious.
Wow. I forget why I don't check these threads anymore. Franky's wacky robots? Out of OP's natural theme? That's a big pile of smelly bullshit. It fits perfectly for me. With the amount of stuff this series throws at me, I'm never surprised with anything. Just more and more amused.
Now I'm outa these threads for good. Hang around you people too long and I'd probably lose it.
Anyone else reckon that the Strawhat Skull on the Franky Shogun's chest is going to be a self destruct button?
Did you utter the name of the most useless button ever created? Hahaha
I wonder if Oda is gonna pull another Oars on us. I mean is he going to have the real battle against a giant monster that the villains take advantage of?
On second thought, no. The "final boss" of the arc will be the island itself, for some reason.
I know what if Caribou steals her while everyone is is occupied and escapes the island, then noah auto follows caribou? I'd get a laugh at seeing the look on caribou's face. lol
cheers.
Did you utter the name of the most useless button ever created? Hahaha
I'm sure Franky would've built it in mistaking it for another pirate symbol on the blueprints, but decided to make it a little more Supah!
I'm sure Franky would've built it in mistaking it for another pirate symbol on the blueprints, but decided to make it a little more Supah!
Sh*t this better not be the way FI goes… on second thought, it would explain why Shirley blames Luffy for destroying (part of) the island.
Nah, that's plain stupid. And I'm sure Franky learned his lesson.
One day, everyone will understand that the Compass Birds are in fact the most important clue to the Void Century.
And I'm sure Franky learned his lesson.
But say if just a button did happen to exist on the blueprint, and in realising Vegapunk's dream he unwittingly followed it exactly to the letter - that wouldn't be his fault, would it?
Someone on a Japanese forum said this
"Wouldn't the Ark of Noah just simply stop if Shirahoshi swims to it and touch it?"…........................................... oh yeah. :blink:
It actually took me a couple seconds to figure that out, lol, that would be hilarious.
I wonder if Franky will dock with the other things he's made, like the submarine for instance. Still, I'd like to see Franky do some serious widespread damage with the Iron Pirate mecha.
I wonder if Heavy Point Chopper will be bigger. Since he's aged two years, I think he should be a bit more Hulkish.
_How much can you do? Just grab a ball and juggle.
All those balls in the air, How hard can it be?
So hard you're getting dizzy!
Keep those balls in the air, Keep those balls in the ai-air!
Balls in the air!_
I wonder if Franky will dock with the other things he's made, like the submarine for instance. Still, I'd like to see Franky do some serious widespread damage with the Iron Pirate mecha.
Iam pretty sure that he made each of his inventions compatible, but somehow i actually dont want to see that happening. Iam not a mecha-fan and having to much of those stuff now in the series would be kind of lame..also even when they look strong those mechas will never be able to fight someone serious..it will always be for fodder-villains and to be honest who doesnt want to see Franky fight personaly instead of sitting (like Moria in Odz) in a huge robot.
Zoan are supposed to have 3 forms, Chopper could manage 7 only because he had the rumble balls. Now he can, without the rumble balls… does it mean that other Zoan could manage more than 3 forms, if they developed their ability enough ??? Or do they need some medical knowledge like Chopper ?
Also, the last form Chopper is talking about is probably Monster form... do you think he managed to control this form, that is that he is able to go "awaken" mode like the creatures of Impel Down but still have mental control ? If so, do you think it is possible, maybe thanks to Vegapunk, for other "awaken" Zoan to have control over their last form ???
Zoan are supposed to have 3 forms, Chopper could manage 7 only because he had the rumble balls. Now he can, without the rumble balls… does it mean that other Zoan could manage more than 3 forms, if they developed their ability enough ??? Or do they need some medical knowledge like Chopper ?
Also, the last form Chopper is talking about is probably Monster form… do you think he managed to control this form, that is that he is able to go "awaken" mode like the creatures of Impel Down but still have mental control ? If so, do you think it is possible, maybe thanks to Vegapunk, for other "awaken" Zoan to have control over their last form ???
That's a very interesting idea. Depending on HOW he was able to achieve that, it may be possible. And I would love to see an already known character with a zoan DF show up again with new forms. It could be Lucci, for example. It's too bad there aren't a lot of zoan users.
one piece chapter 637 is now out!
Omg new chapter!
That's a very interesting idea. Depending on HOW he was able to achieve that, it may be possible. And I would love to see an already known character with a zoan DF show up again with new forms. It could be Lucci, for example. It's too bad there aren't a lot of zoan users.
I'd actually prefer that only chopper gets extra forms considering that's what makes him unique from other zoans.
