allright we have hard what do you think is the strongest df but which one do you think is the weakest df in one piece… i mean the weakest from those that we have seen until now
The weakest devil fruit
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Apis' if you're counting filler.
Or else… well... Gomu Gomu I guess. Luffy sure worked hard to get that strong with that fruit that didn't give much advantage except stretching and immunity to electricity. Note that his muscular prowess is hardwork's fruits, his own, trained strength.
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Nah, the Gomu Gomu Fruit gives you invincibility against bullets and a couple of strong physical attacks (which is not to be underestimated), it lets you stretch and expand (balloon, long arms, whatever) and lets you accellerate your limbs to attack with much more power than you could otherwise. And then there's this Gear 2. Luffy's fruit seems useless, but it isn't. After all every fruit needs a lot of training to be mastered. But some have clearly more potential and versatility than others.
The most useless fruit so far was this stupid Weight-Modifying Fruit of Miss Something. She can fly to a certain degree but her attacks are extremely predictable, as she has to use gravity combined with her large weight. That's why all her attacks have to come from above, so that Zoro could evade her attack without even looking. And above that enlarging her body's weight didn't even make her stronger or more durable XD Ewww!
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i'd say chopper's fruit is the weakest
the hito hito no mi (applies to humans if eaten only) -
i think i'll start a new thread: "the most average devil fruit"
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@fy3:
i'd say chopper's fruit is the weakest
the hito hito no mi (applies to humans if eaten only)wonder what would have happened if a human had eaten it.
i think i'll start a new thread: "the most average devil fruit"
there is only one fruit for each element/animal/etc so that would work. but i agree with you that the thread is kinda useless.
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The human who eats a hito hito fruit gets enlightened.
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Indeed
The weakest fruit..? um.. how about
baka baka no mi?
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I think their ought to be an Ossan Ossan no Mi. It lets you turn into a ninety eight year old geezer who complains about his hip all the time.
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I think their ought to be an Ossan Ossan no Mi. It lets you turn into a ninety eight year old geezer who complains about his hip all the time.
No, that would be a powerufl fruit. In fiction all the old geezers, especially the ones that complain about their back or hip, are actully some of the stronger characters and randomly when they feel like deviler scenes of massive ownage - like Yoda.
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The human who eats a hito hito fruit gets enlightened.
I agree. Either that or a real bad taste in their mouth with no reward lol
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I think that he would just lose his ability to swim…
enlightened..
Oda confirmed that one ^__~
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i have made a theory on the fact that Miss valentine fruit could be very powerfull, if only she had trained herself….
Imagine if she could modify her weight more than her limit which was very lame :oMr2's fruit is useful, but in fact it is very weak :o
perhaps if he could mimic others power but i am not sure if he can do it :o
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doa doa no mi is weak too ôo
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i have made a theory on the fact that Miss valentine fruit could be very powerfull, if only she had trained herself….
Imagine if she could modify her weight more than her limit which was very lame :oWhat was so lame about it? She was able to finish off a dinosaur with her weight. I´d say that´s pretty much some powerful weight.
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**I don't think any friut can be considered the weakest. ( not counting fillers)
Bon Clay- it can seem useless in a fight but it isn't. DEpending on who he touches he could turn into different forms for added strengh, speed etc. like if he was trpped in quicksand and someone was charing at him he could transform to some little person.
Miss.Valintine- instead of floating in the air and falling, she could increse her weight when hitting for added damage.**
doa doa no mi is weak too ôo
I fail to see how…
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it does no physical harm
I just refered to Narguilo's opinion -
i concur
connect a door between the sea and your lungs
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I think none are the "Weakest" Fruits. like mentioned before, it's what you make of the power. No matter what Hand it deals you, if you find a way to use the power it will become that much stronger.
As far as that goes, In the Series at least the "Weakest" Fruit (as in the Fruit which was utalized the worst by it's user) would have to be either Alvidia's Or Bellamy's. Alvidia Got Skinny but I dont think it would help in a Fight against anyone But Sanji. Plus, she doesnt Fight all that much, but Seriously, What COULD it do? I'm sure something could be thought of but at moment I cant think of anything. and Bellamy…. All I have to say about him is out of all the Devil Fruit users who actually fought, (and Seemingly had a chance from the Beginning) He was the ONLY one to go down in one Punch
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… to show how powerfull was Luffy after Alabastra arc and that his former reward of 30.000.000 bellys was too low.
Kinai.
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Originally Posted by Narguilo
i have made a theory on the fact that Miss valentine fruit could be very powerfull, if only she had trained herself….
Imagine if she could modify her weight more than her limit which was very lame :oWhat was so lame about it? She was able to finish off a dinosaur with her weight. I´d say that´s pretty much some powerful weight.
Yeah but i mean, her max weight = Zoro's standard's training's weights
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And i was talking about her as she has a strong devil fruit ! (not weak, so i agree!)
In fact i tought she could be very powerful if she could disturd the space time (sp?) like dark holes….but she would destroy the world if she(i mean she, not her DF !!) were strong enough
Wahouh it is my first quote, i hope it work well :D<3
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Apis's fruit was the weakest.
Bon Clay's i'd have to come around to 2nd- simply because he hasn't made him powerful in anyway.
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As far as that goes, In the Series at least the "Weakest" Fruit (as in the Fruit which was utalized the worst by it's user) would have to be either Alvidia's Or Bellamy's. Alvidia Got Skinny but I dont think it would help in a Fight against anyone But Sanji. Plus, she doesnt Fight all that much, but Seriously, What COULD it do? I'm sure something could be thought of but at moment I cant think of anything.
Alvida's fruit is useful since no one could physically touch her, but if a logia user comes along then it would become useless.
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I think it'd be…..Wapols?
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All of the fruits could be valuable if used correctly. The one used the wost is Bellamy's, he only turned his legs into springs while I beleive the Bane Bane no mi allows you to turn your entire body into a spring.
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But what difference would it be? The effects would still be the same.
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The Samu-Samu fruit is the worst. XD
No, seriously, The Baku Baku fruit was the most misused. Wapol had so much more potential with his fruit, but he was too stupid to use it properly. All he had to do was eat some friggin' ice and steel, and he could've made himself incredibly hard. Gomu Gomu no Bazooka took a few times to shatter Krieg's armor, so if Wapol had made himself even harder than that, he could have probably put up a decent fight against Luffy.
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ueah, But he used more Techniques than 1. Bellamy only used ONE attack, ever and Over and Over…
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The weakest devil fruit is the Human Human Fruit. If a human were to eat it all it would do is take away their ability to swim… unless the human finds a way to make a rumble ball. But still even if the human manages to harness the power of the fruit about every other fruit can still defeat it.
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luckily a animal ate it
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well… bellamy couldn't have been weak...
he had a bounty of 55 mil
this is more than twice the amount of anyone that luffy faced in the east blue arcthe only reason why bellamy got slaughtered was because luffy was even more powerful
There probably are a lot of really weak devil fruits out there, its just that why would oda show them off.. no reason except for a target practice
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Bellamy was a moron. The reason his bounty was so high was because of D. Oflamingo's bounty. He was a member of the Donquixote pirates, and since he was first mate, he probably backed anything that D. Oflamingo did.
I get this impression because when D. Oflamingo came to kill Bellamy, It was like he expected Bellamy to screw up. When you consider how high Shanks, Whitebeard's, Rockstar's, Lucky Roo's, Ben Beckman's, and other's bounties are, 55 million is nothing.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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yeah…. the only useless fruit i can think of besides those that don't really count (ahem apis...) is Bellamy's... what a crappy power... and i don't like him much anyway. thank god Luffy beat him with no effort... that was one of the funniest things ever in the manga.
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If a human were to eat it all it would do is take away their ability to swim…
It would also make them the most humane person ever. Not so useful where fighting is concerned, but very handy if you have a prick like Wapol for a king.
Before: selfish brat.
After: most sympathetic person ever.But, yeah, where fighting strength is concerned, it's probably the worst.
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I think in a fight, even if you can't stick to Alvida, you could still give her a nasty bruise or internal bleeding just by crushing her against something.
And it's all about the skill of the weilder, and arguably the ability to apply it in the arena of competition.
Wapol: Powerful fruit (huge potential for self-improvement), dim wielder.
Smoker: Powerful fruit, excellent wielder.
Mr.3: Weak fruit, clever wielder
Buggy: Weak fruit, weak wielder. He didn't know what he had– small body parts could run as distractions, eyes and ears as snoops, and he forgot you have to shield your crotch. But it doesn't actually improve your strength in combat, only your ability to do unexpected attacks. -
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Bellamy was a moron. The reason his bounty was so high was because of D. Oflamingo's bounty. He was a member of the Donquixote pirates, and since he was first mate, he probably backed anything that D. Oflamingo did.
If that was true then all of the Strawhats would have a between 15 and 45 million berries just because the captain is a 100 million pirate. I think it is clear that the WG considers really well who they will give a bounty and who not.
Tashigi has seen all the Strawhats at Arabasta and reported everything what happened and yet only the two strongest guys Luffy and Zoro are wanted. The WG has probably "we just aim for the head of the snake" attitude.
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I wouldn't exactly call Bellamy's ability weak by any standards. i think it is more powerful then it would appear.
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Tashigi has seen all the Strawhats at Arabasta and reported everything what happened and yet only the two strongest guys Luffy and Zoro are wanted. The WG has probably "we just aim for the head of the snake" attitude.
Strictly speaking, only Luffy and Zoro had did anything against the World Government at the point their bounties were issued. Luffy has committed battery against a Marine as well as a World Government official and Zoro had attacked bounty hunters that were licensed by the World Government.
Of course, they could have issued one for Usopp after the river battle, but that is dependent on the Navy's ability to identify who fired the cannon in the first place.
Until the Sea Train and their arrival at Enies Lobby, Sanji really hadn't done anything to be given a bounty by the World Government and neither had Chopper or Nami.
Complicating things since 2009.
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Until the Sea Train and their arrival at Enies Lobby, Sanji really hadn't done anything to be given a bounty by the World Government and neither had Chopper or Nami.
That´s not true. He took down those random marines at Rain Base. True they were no biggies but then again, neither where the Whiskey Peak bounty hunters.
Plus he directly attacked Smoker at Loguetown. That´s more direct opposition to the WG then beating up bounty hunters.
Take the defeats of Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 away Zoro and Sanji are actually pretty equal to what they did to the small fry. The only reason why I think Sanji didn´t get a bounty though he defeated the second strongest of Crocodile´s man is because unlike Zoro´s opponent, Mr. 2 wasn´t laying around ready to get arrested.
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A massive stone column slid off of Alvida.
I can't believe someone said that Bara Bara was weak. Immunity to blades! It's one of my favorite fruits, and probably
Bellamy's fruit could've been really cool… I'd use it for Spring Loaded Punches or like "Go-Go Gadget Springs!" He way he used it was kind of cool, but he was pretty much a one trick pony.
Doa Doa isn't weak at all... did you see how useful it was for Blueno in the early parts of his fight with Luffy? If he used Doa Doa for trap doors and such instead of relying on his damn Tekkai, he would've had a much better chance.
Like someone else said, there really isn't a weakest fruit. But, if I HAD to pick, I would say that I think Kilo Kilo is very limited in battle. Anyone with half a brain would just sidestep Miss Valentine (like Zoro), so the only way it'd work would be if she caught them off guard.
And regardless of strength, singlehandedly killing 100 men is no small feat. Sanji didn't really do anything at all outside of defeating Mr. 2.
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@Fire Fist:
Bellamy was a moron. The reason his bounty was so high was because of D. Oflamingo's bounty.
Bellamy was strongggg… -_-;;;
Oda gave us the impression that he was strong when he beat up roshio, who beat up a lot of victim right before...
He also beat up the two ape people, who had pretty high bounties too 36 miloh and it doesn't say anywhere that he was doflamingo's first mate
Bounties are made by that group of captain's right? they probably recieve reports of many pirates and what happens
Theres probably a lot of reports of pirates... so they wouldn't have time to bounty everything, so they only bounty the pirates that show a big problem
the wg doesn't know that sanji defeated mr. 2
Blueno didn't know luffy was that strong, he thought tekkai would have been enough to stop all of luffy's punches
but after luffy went into 2nd gear, blueno couldn't use doa doa fruit on him anymore, because luffy was too fast
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That´s not true. He took down those random marines at Rain Base. True they were no biggies but then again, neither where the Whiskey Peak bounty hunters.
Sheer mass is the difference there. 100 bounty hunters is slightly different than a handful of Marines.
Plus he directly attacked Smoker at Loguetown. That´s at least more then Zoro did to the Marine ever since Luffy got his first bounty.
He also slapped around Ironfist Fullbody, but nothing came out of that. For a bounty to be issued requires that the crime actually be reported. Is Smoker going to demand that they issue a bounty on Sanji for that? Nezumi's a cowardly little prick, but Smoker certainly isn't and it doesn't seem like Fullbody is either.
As far as the World Government knows, Sanji hadn't ever done anything major to deserve a bounty prior to his arrival in Enies Lobby.
Take the defeats of Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 away Zoro and Sanji are actually pretty equal to what they did to the small fry.
Where sheer numbers are concerned, Zoro almost certainly has a clear edge on Sanji. Ignoring Zoro's bounties from before the crew began, Sanji was put in a major hole early by Zoro's actions at Whiskey Peak. He made up part of the difference in the Sea Train by beating up between forty and fifty CP agents, but his numbers in Enies Lobby are probably less than Zoro's if only because Zoro wound up just wandering around inside of the Courthouse for a while rather than making straight for the roof like Sanji did. Zoro also added a few more victories over people in Skypiea, where Sanji was incapable of fighting for a healthy chunk of the storyline.
The only reason why I think Sanji didn´t get a bounty though he defeated the second strongest of Crocodile´s man is because unlike Zoro´s opponent, Mr. 2 wasn´t laying around ready to get arrested.
Well again, beating either one of them wasn't actually illegal. The only person who got into legal trouble for his activities in Alabasta was Luffy, whose bounty was raised because he attacked Crocodile.
The amount of Zoro's bounty was set by the fact that he beat Mr. 1, but his crime was in Whiskey Peak. His bounty was not issued due to the fact that the World Government was unaware of the location of the Straw Hats until they arrived in Alabasta.
Complicating things since 2009.
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The amount of Zoro's bounty was set by the fact that he beat Mr. 1, but his crime was in Whiskey Peak. His bounty was not issued due to the fact that the World Government was unaware of the location of the Straw Hats until they arrived in Alabasta.
I think you´re reading too much into the relation between the WG and the bounty hunters. In all the stories I´ve seen bounty hunters aren´t exactly considered as government darlings. I´ve yet to see a story where a government considers it a real crime when bounty hunters get finished off.
You´re right about the sheer numbers. But the point that the WG considers it a crime that Zoro took down bounty hunters doesn´t work for me. Bounty hunters are mostly depicted outlaws that didn´t comit a crime. I don´t see the Whiskey Peak bounty hunters any different. I just don´t see the WG to consider it a crime that there´s some outlaws less in this world.
The only big thing is really that Zoro could take down hundred guys that were hunting him. Not because they had anything to do with the WG.
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I think you´re reading too much into the relation between the WG and the bounty hunters.
The only other bounty we've ever seen for Zoro was a one million berry bounty in a newspaper that appeared in a cover. That wasn't a mini arc, so it probably isn't canon.
So, his initial bounty was likely issued after Alabasta. Name a single event before then that consituted an illegal activity on his part that the World Government would actually give a damn about. Captain Morgan? That was a helluva long time ago and I doubt that the Marines would have reported it to their superiors in the first place.
The only possible thing that he did would have been attacking the Baroque Works station at Whiskey Peak. It couldn't have been beating Daz as he's an assassin; barring him being a Cipher Pol agent, there's no reason for the Government to care one way or the other what he did. Even if that was the case, the Bounty Hunters would still have to be the stated reason his bounty was issued in the first place.
I´ve yet to see a story where a government considers it a real crime when bounty hunters get finished off.
Why shouldn't they? They're citizens who do dangerous work that benefits the government at substantial risk to themselves. They may have a tendency to be scumbags, but they're useful scumbags and a government shouldn't be thrilled to lose that resource.
Bounty hunters are mostly depicted outlaws that didn´t comit a crime. I don´t see the Whiskey Peak bounty hunters any different. I just don´t see the WG to consider it a crime that there´s some outlaws less in this world.
Outlaws that didn't commit a crime? That doesn't really make sense.
They provide a useful service to the World Government, which is taking down pirates. If one of them loses to a pirate, big deal. The World Government didn't waste any money training them and somebody else will take their place.
On the other hand, taking down a whole bunch of them at once means that the World Government now has to deal with the pirates that they won't be catching anymore. The Navy has to pick up the slack and they're stretched thin as it is.
Complicating things since 2009.
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The only other bounty we've ever seen for Zoro was a one million berry bounty in a newspaper that appeared in a cover. That wasn't a mini arc, so it probably isn't canon.
Like you said it´s not cannon. The title page that has this news papers has Zoro drinking in a bar with roosters which definitely is just usual title page artwork and nothing else.
Why shouldn't they? They're citizens who do dangerous work that benefits the government at substantial risk to themselves. They may have a tendency to be scumbags, but they're useful scumbags and a government shouldn't be thrilled to lose that resource.
Hey, I only comment on what the usual reaction to bounty hunters is and no matter what movie, series, cartoon or anime it was they were always considered as people that nobody wants to have around them.
Outlaws that didn't commit a crime? That doesn't really make sense.
Of course that makes sense. If you always show a disrespectful attitude towards the laws but never break it then it works perfectly fine.
They provide a useful service to the World Government, which is taking down pirates. If one of them loses to a pirate, big deal. The World Government didn't waste any money training them and somebody else will take their place.
Providing a useful service is something different then being part of the governments rescource. Tell me, what will get you more trouble in the court if you beat down a soldier or a bounty hunter?
IMO it does´t matter who they belonged to in the end, no matter if they were pirates, bounty hunters, marines or government agents, the sole fact that Zoro was singlehandedely taking down 100 armored guys that were hunting him is what raised the WG´s attention towards him. It´s not the because it was a crime but because it was a portrayal of strenght. Plus what matters the most actually is that he is a Strawhat Pirate. Of all of Luffy´s followers he did the back then most damage BW (not counting Luffy of course).
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I agree with Hito Hito being the most useless for combat purposes; the best a human user could hope for would be a boost in strenght, seeing as how Human-form Chopper was initially buff.
However, Bane Bane and Kilo Kilo seem to get a rap too, which I find unfair. Like many other fruits, they have lots of uses- they're not just that obvious.
Take Bellamy for example. He can wind his legs so tight that it could break a tower, and Merry, when he bounced off them. Imagine if Bellamy grapped hold of an opponent, and kicked off on him. Not only would the jump be bone shattering, at the very least the arms would be pulled out their sockets as well. Another use would be simple: Coil up your arms, for added effect of punches- this would be too remiscent of Luffy though.
Another possibility entirely is not winding up the springs, and using them to immobilize an enemy. If Bellamy could turn his torso into a spring as well, even if not jumping, he'd be very hard to hit.As for kilo Kilo: A increase in mass must mean an increase in density. Run up to your opponent, throw a punch, and increase the weight of your arm by 10000 kgs. Ouch. And it's not like Valentine can't support such weight, and only uses gravity to do the dirty work: When torturing Usopp, she wasn't dragged onto her back by the weight increase, she could support it comfortably.
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A massive stone column slid off of Alvida.
I can't believe someone said that Bara Bara was weak. Immunity to blades! It's one of my favorite fruits, and probably
It's weak in that your strength doesn't rise. Like Noro Noro, it's more about expanding your battle strategy.
Even "immunity to blades" requires conscious thoughts. It's not like you're simply solid diamond and you can't be cut, you have to fall apart first, no?
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Well, so one can sya for sure, but I always thought that Zoro physically sliced through Buggy. I mean, if Buggy separated and Zoro sliced only air, I think Zoro would've noticed.
