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SuperSonic-Strawhat

@super sonic eggman

Theres lots of places where stuff if going well, Japan (like south of Fukushima:ninja: and north of Tohoku…like...Hokkaido>.>) Canada, New Zealand, Austrailia, Singapore, China (depending on how you look at it)

most of their economies are doing well (Japan/China WILL do VERY well soon once they and china stop financing
Americas Debt and start consuming their own production) Relatively safe (well maybe not Austrailia but thats becuase
Austrailians are hardcore violent like that lol) but yeah in those areas, things are actually looking up.

Honestly, I'm so untuned to how economy works that I really don't have much choice but to rely on figuring out what the current state of affairs are by figuring out what the general public's reaction to it is suppossed to be. And a few samples of news here and there help a bit.

I suppose I just worry to much. Maybe. Maybe not.

Rogues' Gallery

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392239/kanye-west-says-people-look-at-him-like-hitler/

Oh look, Kanye's ranting and being an all-around insensitive idiot again. More news at 11. :getlost:

Kingloser

@Luphrecio:

The Economy is in a lot worse shape than most Americans think, and there is a LOT more Corruptions that Americans care to believe that has been causing all of this

Its such a shame that Obama is too weak to put the foot down and fight those racist GOP assholes, Im pretty Disapointed in him. . .

He could have steamrolled of the GOP a couple years ago with his party had control of everything….

You do understand that would have made matters much much worse. I am waiting for them top announce QE 4 so they can pour more gasoline onto the fire then wonder why it kept getting bigger.

GDP is predicted down

The U.S. economy grew less than forecast in the second quarter, after almost stalling at the start of the year, as consumers retrenched.

Gross domestic product climbed at a 1.3 percent annual rate following a 0.4 percent gain in the prior quarter that was less than earlier estimated, Commerce Department figures showed today in Washington. The median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News called for a 1.8 percent increase. Household purchases, about 70 percent of the economy, rose 0.1 percent

Manufacturing is set to implode.

U.S. ISM Manufacturing Index Drops More Than Estimated to 50.9 From 55.3

U.S. manufacturing expanded in July at the slowest pace in two years as new orders shrank and production eased.

The Institute for Supply Management’s factory index fell to 50.9 last month from 55.3 in June, the Tempe, Arizona-based group said today. Economists projected the index would drop to 54.5, according to the median forecast in a Bloomberg News survey. Figures greater than 50 signal expansion.

Manufacturers are facing stagnant consumer spending, raising the risk that production will be tempered further even as parts shortages from Japan’s earthquake dissipate and commodity costs ease.

Outside of the US and Europe.

Someone is short selling Hockey Stick, Brian Adams, and Maple Syrup futures.

Gold popped it's $1700 dollar cherry, it is now worth more than platinum.

Singapore has a technical recession now.

From Instapundit: "Dow Finishes Down 634 Points. Obama’s speech certainly did nothing to slow the drop, though I suppose the White House will argue that it would have been 734 without the speech, meaning that Obama saved or created 100 Dow points . . . ."

Welcome to the recovery!

So far as the London riots.

I survived the buster call

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/08/tavis-smiley-cornel-west-cnn-carol-costello-obama-poverty_n_921162.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl6|sec3_lnk2|84813

CharmedWard

Can someone explain what COBRA is to me please? I'm guessing it's a meeting of officals to sort out the London riots, but I'm a bit vague. I hate coming in late on stuff like this -.-' The BBC website mostly assumes you know what's going on.

Cyan D. Funk

COBRA!

No Maam

@Cyan:

http://blog.fpnyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/cobra_commander.jpg

COBRA!

Damn you Funk I so wanted to post this !

And I never even watched G.I.Joe !

CharmedWard

XD Thanks for the help, guys ;)

Crossword

This is pretty neat: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14405122

loneassassin

@Crossword:

This is pretty neat: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14405122

!

Uh-oh. Someone better call the Doctor before something bad happens

SuperSonic-Strawhat

@Mr.333:

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392239/kanye-west-says-people-look-at-him-like-hitler/

Oh look, Kanye's ranting and being an all-around insensitive idiot again. More news at 11. :getlost:

You know his fans are gonna be all over that.

THC

This post is deleted!

BartArt

http://www.opendemocracy.net/magnus-nome/why-let-facts-ruin-story-norwegian-comments-on-us-coverage-of-norway-terror

Monkey King

CNN and FOX suck?? This is groundbreaking news sir!

BartArt

I know, duh Bart. But it's a nice article non the less.

Outerspec

Time for a tiny bit of positive news. Just in the meantime.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-roars-back-in-rb-2330604806.html?x=0

Ubiq

Reid's choices for the **SUPER CONGRESS OF DEADLY DEFICIT DOOM are Patty Murray from Washington, John Kerry from Massachusetts, and Max Baucus from Montana. Baucus, if you'll recall, was one of the major obstacles that Democrats faced in the Healthcare Debate and was also one of the prime moving factors for the original Bush tax cuts in 2001. All three also represent states that have a lot of connections to the military so it seems even more likely that any cuts will come out of social services.

@Kingloser:

GDP is predicted down
The U.S. economy grew less than forecast in the second quarter, after almost stalling at the start of the year, as consumers retrenched.

Gross domestic product climbed at a 1.3 percent annual rate following a 0.4 percent gain in the prior quarter that was less than earlier estimated, Commerce Department figures showed today in Washington. The median forecast of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News called for a 1.8 percent increase. Household purchases, about 70 percent of the economy, rose 0.1 percent

I don't recall where I read it, but I'm pretty sure that I've seen estimates that say that the U.S. economy will have to grow an extra 1.5% just to offset the damage done by the spending cuts just signed into law and I don't think that even takes into account the additional cuts coming up next year.

Gold popped it's $1700 dollar cherry, it is now worth more than platinum.

I hope a lot of people wise up and start selling soon; gold is a major bubble that's going to pop one of these days and ruin a lot of people. Sadly, a hefty chunk of them are going to be elderly people terrified into buying it by hucksters like Glenn Beck.**

ChesCa

Reads Ubiq's post
Fuck. Anyone know what it'll take to do away with the Super Congress or is it pretty much here to stay?
From what I understand it does everything majority vote, so the Republican side just needs at least one more person to push everything through.
Also, we have a….lobbyist?
http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/08/09/28141/california-hires-dc-lobbyist/
How the heck does this work? Is CA suddenly a business interest or something, or is it catching up with the times or whatever?

Ubiq

@Cuddles:

From what I understand it does everything majority vote, so the Republican side just needs at least one more person to push everything through.

Reid's choices for the SUPER CONGRESS OF DEADLY DEFICIT DOOM are Patty Murray from Washington, John Kerry from Massachusetts, and Max Baucus from Montana.

That one vote is going to happen and it's mostly coming out of Medicare and Medicaid's hides. Maybe Social Security as well though that doesn't have anything to do with the deficit and is solvent through 2037 anyway even without raising the cap on payroll taxes. Raising the cap to $250K means that oayments of full benefits are guaranteed through 2075 and removing it altogether makes it permanently solvent.

Mr M

tigerlilly

They are planning to take down facebook now…?
This will probably won't do any damage, maybe piss off facebook users for a day or two.
But the publicity will be great and it might shift peoples attention to the privacy issue.

Also just a short newsflash on North and South Korea
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/0810/North-Korea-and-South-Korea-exchange-fire-after-agreeing-to-peace-talks
Pew Pew Pew

Crossword

The ''Super Congress''… This is the shit you can get through when the legislation's such a rush job.

Fire-Fist

Prime Minister David Cameron had lost legitimacy and should go

guess who said these words?

! who else, its
! >! Muammar Gaddafi

tigerlilly

Ahahaha you got me Fire-Fist! You got me hard! LOL

Monkey King

Yes, he can go. Because there is a democratic system in Britain that will choose this decision Mr Gaddafi. Do you have one of thos- oh wait of course not lol.

Luphrecio

@Kingloser:

You do understand that would have made matters much much worse. I am waiting for them top announce QE 4 so they can pour more gasoline onto the fire then wonder why it kept getting bigger.

IT would have been bad but that's what was coming anyway, with the overspending of the gov, the two wars, the theft of the wealth of the country by the banking industry. What they needed to have done when Obama got in office was to do the opposite of what he did. . .he should have brought all the troops home…ALL of them, close down the bases around the world, let the companies fail (no bailouts) raise taxes on the rich to Pre-Reagan levels and use the money that they've been borrowing from China and Japan to rebuild the American manufacturing infrastructure so that we can start producing our way out of debt . . .of course what they did was just borrow more money from the chinese and Japanese. . .to spend on wars, bailing out the banks(who created this mess)

I see all the stuff you bring up about asia being down too but thats only becuase they are pegged to the dollar (as in having trillions in dollar treasuries. . .Japan and China) so untill they start buying GOLD with the money (which is what the chinese have been doing clandestinely) Also the asian countries sell their goods to america, but of course with the dollar down and Americans unable to afford stuff, companies are getting hurt in asia.

eventually asia will stop relying on exporting to counrties that cant buy their stuff and start consuming their own produced goods themselves/exporting to other countries (switzerland, new zealand for example) that have populations that can purchase their items.

especially china. . .with its 1.3 billion people, once the dollar is finished they can just sell their own produced products to themselves. . . there's 1.3 billion of them

once china stops lending money to the us. . .

in the meantime the U.S. WILL have to do what Obama and the dems should have done two years ago when they had control of the senate and the house. . they only prolonged the pain by borrowing more and squandering it.

Monkey King

@Luphrecio:

he should have brought all the troops home…ALL of them,

lollllllll

close down the bases around the world,

Hmm, yes, even the DMZ ones, yes. This makes lots of good sense.

let the companies fail (no bailouts) raise taxes on the rich to Pre-Reagan levels and use the money that they've been borrowing from China and Japan to rebuild the American manufacturing infrastructure so that we can start producing our way out of debt

Great idea, lets bring back the textile mills rather than the information technology. Stepping back down to Indonesia levels of industry is the life.

eventually asia will stop relying on exporting to counrties that cant buy their stuff and start consuming their own produced goods themselves/exporting to other countries (switzerland, new zealand for example) that have populations that can purchase their items.

That's completely ridiculous, nobody would stop exporting to the US. China produces cheap crap like t shirts and stuff, not high end things like cars and computers, like South Korea, Taiwan, or Japan.

You really don't understand the vast differences among East Asian economies at all do you.

Or how poor the US would have to be to stop becoming worth exporting to.
Or why extremely small population countries like New Zealand or Switzerland would ever replace the US as a customer (or that those two aren't already customers of East Asian exports lol).

especially china. . .with its 1.3 billion people, once the dollar is finished they can just sell their own produced products to themselves. . . there's 1.3 billion of them

Many of which are extremely poor and have not been established as a market for half the things being produced, nor do they have the disposable income of a middle class yet. This is changing slowly, but as you seem extremely inept at grasping, just as Taiwan, SK, and Japan did, once China becomes majority middle class it will be with people moving up the collective wage ladder, in other words AWAY from mass producing cheap items in huge assembly lines.

Aohige_AP

Uh, wow.

Reading Luphrecio's post gave me a headache.
Every paragraph is riddled with complete misconception.

Complete self-consumption hasn't been a viable option for any modern world-class country since…
since.... what, late 19th century?

Fire-Fist

Cameron considers blocking Twitter, Facebook, BBM after riots

seriously? where did freedom of speech go now?
I mean i know that some of the rioters have been using these to communicate but blocking these… This is STUPID.

"Mr Speaker, everyone watching these horrific actions will be stuck by how they were organised via social media. Free flow of information can be used for good. But it can also be used for ill."

"When people are using social media for violence we need to stop them,"

Outerspec

@Fire-Fist:

Cameron considers blocking Twitter, Facebook, BBM after riots

seriously? where did freedom of speech go now?
I mean i know that some of the rioters have been using these to communicate but blocking these… This is STUPID.

Police can actually use the social media sites the rioters are using as communication to track down the rioters. Some people are even stupid enough to post their confessions to rioting along with their names and addresses. Take this example Tigerlily posted in the 'LOL Thread'.

! Things that were blacked out was personal info.

Social media can be used for good soooo…I think he should use it againt the rioters. I believe police already have been doing this though but if Cameron shuts it all down then what? Piss a lot of people off, that's what. People have rioted for less.

Mugiwara_no_Ice

Don't expect from a Pwngoat avatar to understand the intricacies of military strategy or global economy.

Monkey King

Even controversial US bases are generally embedded a bit in local economy by now and would need gradual phasing out, a sudden rip out would be bad for everyone.

Taggerung

It would take a drastic change in the way the world works for China to stop buying up US debt. It's basically all they can do until they can't do it anymore. After that the guns will probably come out but by then that will be the least of our worries. At that point all the gold in the world won't really matter because there's about four things it's actually useful for and it's not in enough abundance for it to be efficient. We need to make spending cuts in defense and part of that means reigning in our world police.

UK is looking a bit v for vendetta-esque right now. Cameron completely missed the point of what just happened. Instead of talking about the social problems that caused it he's just going on about punishment and control which are ironically part of the social problem that lead to this. I guess the UK is just going to bury their heads in the sand and look just as surprised when this happens again.

Smudger

@Taggerung:

UK is looking a bit v for vendetta-esque right now. Cameron completely missed the point of what just happened. Instead of talking about the social problems that caused it he's just going on about punishment and control which are ironically part of the social problem that lead to this. I guess the UK is just going to bury their heads in the sand and look just as surprised when this happens again.

I think you missed a lot of what really caused this and got the ball rolling in the first place.

First off the reason there was issues in Tottenham was due to the Police constantly facing off against the majority of the black population there. From that spawned a hatred between both sides which was made a hundred times worse by the fact that we've been flooding the country with immigrants so fast that it didn't allow any kind of integration into the main society of London, only building up the scale and tension without any release.

When the demonstration went wrong and both sides clashed it sent a shock-wave through the surrounding area that ignited the situation. The majority of people that were rioting after that were there just to loot and hadn't any cause or justification for what they did. This much i apparent when you see armed gangs of locals patrolling areas of London to stop the stealing and violence.

What Cameron did was exactly what 99% of the population were asking him to do….restore order and stop innocents being beaten and robbed by a bunch of thugs trying to hijack a cause just to get a new tv.

Just look at the riot a few months ago regarding student tuition fees....that was something we could all understand but this now riot disgusts most of us and feel its made things even worse for the people in tottenam as the chances of any kind of sympathy went straight out the window the moment the looting and and innocents being hurt happened.

As for the whole V scenario : maybe in the future bt not right now. Camerons doing a great job and is helping this country more than the last three prime ministers ever did. Especially when consider just how much shit they dumped on him.

Taggerung

@Smudger:

I think you missed a lot of what really caused this and got the ball rolling in the first place.

First off the reason there was issues in Tottenham was due to the Police constantly facing off against the majority of the black population there. From that spawned a hatred between both sides which was made a hundred times worse by the fact that we've been flooding the country with immigrants so fast that it didn't allow any kind of integration into the main society of London, only building up the scale and tension without any release.

And this is the social problem i was talking about. Minus the immigrant part, if they had a presence in the riots at all it was extremely minor ( I really hope that doesn't become a platform). But Cameron didn't address any of that and there's been no inclination that he or his administration intend to.

Obviously the scope of the riots and people involved moved way past the point of origination and became something else entirely and while his new measures may work they do so at a great invasion of privacy and grant the gov't and the police and host of new powers in response to what was essentially mass activity of the delinquent subculture of Britian so it's not like no one knows where these people came from, how they got there, and why they're not leaving anytime soon. It seems like an overreaction. They didn't need these powers before and they don't really need them now but they're probably going to get them because like you said 99% of the country is hollering for justice.

All while the source of the actual problem is overlooked. I feel like i've lived this before and without Hugo Weaving it's not as entertaining, trust me.

loneassassin

http://www.politicususa.com/en/tax-cuts-jobs

No surprise here.

Luphrecio

CharmedWard

@Fire-Fist:

Cameron considers blocking Twitter, Facebook, BBM after riots

That's funny, I swear BBM was taken down (though I'm not a Blackberry user so I've got no way of knowing personally).

However Twitter especially is still being used as a name-and-shame group. I don't use Twitter much either, but FB keeps me updated with the anti-riot groups, who pretty much copy/paste their tweets. Many groups have named quite a few looters and other such criminals and apparently Twitter acounts are being taken down as a result. It's good to see the social networks doing their bit to help.

Luphrecio

@Taggerung:

It would take a drastic change in the way the world works for China to stop buying up US debt. It's basically all they can do until they can't do it anymore. After that the guns will probably come out but by then that will be the least of our worries. At that point all the gold in the world won't really matter because there's about four things it's actually useful for and it's not in enough abundance for it to be efficient. We need to make spending cuts in defense and part of that means reigning in our world police.

UK is looking a bit v for vendetta-esque right now. Cameron completely missed the point of what just happened. Instead of talking about the social problems that caused it he's just going on about punishment and control which are ironically part of the social problem that lead to this. I guess the UK is just going to bury their heads in the sand and look just as surprised when this happens again.

nah china is a bit different, they could stop funding u.s. debt without going to wwIII what would happen is that they would stop artificially keeping the value of their currency low, so that it would rise to what its acutally worth (china produces a LOT) buy gold mines, and cut off the gold supply to all other countries, back their currency with gold(gold standard) and let the chinese people thmselves consume their own products, instead of sending them to the u.s. (since the dollar wouldn't be able to afford it) thing is. . .that the transition period of letting their currency rise would. . .HURT for a short period, meaning that lots of chinese people would lose "jobs" and blame the govt. . .the chinese are good at money but they don't want to be run out of control hence all the restrictions on . . .everytyhing

Whats probably going to happen is that the chinese, japanese, saudis, u,s politicians, e.u countries are conspiring with big banking cartels to lower the value of all currencies to the level that china is at by having other nations print money to pay their debts. which of course is an indirect tax on a nations people and the banking cartels get to mainipulate the markets for their own monetary gain, including manipulating and growing debts through shady deals with thsoe who dont know much about borrowing (dumb politicians)

really when the "GUNS" come out itll probably be the people vs the banks ( see Iceland. . .there is a reason why it isnt in the news anymore)

buying silver (too late for gold as its so expensive now that only the super rich or goventms can get) is a form of wealth protection in that you cant create it in a printing press so you cant dilute the worth of it meaning that your money will be safe from inflation. you cant really make money. . .just keep your money safe from the "tax" of bailouts, politically funded wars, "Defense" etc etc. . .

also if you ddint know Korea is trying this, buying gold. . .unfortunately they put it in london. . .

. . .and london is in a sh*t ton of financial trouble too (which is the underlying cause for the recent riots, bad economy+bad job and future prospects for its citizenry and young people+constant police incursions=powder keg ready for ignition) but yeah Korea is probably never going to see that gold. . .they should have had a physical deliery and locked it up in a vault in korea…

GuetaMinute

Nothing serious just lulz

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/130507/herman-cains-oft-quoted-poem-actually-donna-summers-pokemon-song-video/
He's an ass, too. But that's another story.

Taggerung

@Luphrecio:

nah china is a bit different, they could stop funding u.s. debt without going to wwIII what would happen is that they would stop artificially keeping the value of their currency low, so that it would rise to what its acutally worth (china produces a LOT) buy gold mines, and cut off the gold supply to all other countries, back their currency with gold(gold standard) and let the chinese people thmselves consume their own products, instead of sending them to the u.s. (since the dollar wouldn't be able to afford it) thing is. . .that the transition period of letting their currency rise would. . .HURT for a short period, meaning that lots of chinese people would lose "jobs" and blame the govt. . .the chinese are good at money but they don't want to be run out of control hence all the restrictions on . . .everytyhing

There is not enough accessible gold in the world to make any of that a feasible option. Not to mention that your short transition period would take a decade or more at the very least and if the US suddenly couldn't pay it's debt China would lose a huge amount of money. The only reason China is able to keep it's currency so low and pull in so much revenue is that they basically fund the debt of the world, specifically the US. It's a big circle of money. This relationship is beneficial for everyone who is just trying to make a profit, especially a US gov't that loves to spend, so there's no real reason for them to stop. Then there's the issue of resources which China is quickly running out of and the whole problem with a high currency value nation producing and consuming it's own products. In order for this to work at all China would basically have to become a stand alone economy which is not possible. There's the issue of retraining and educating a substantial part of the population to go from blue collar to white collar. Cleaning up the large amounts of land they would need to provide food for this isolationist mecca. The social problems it would cause. And basically the amount of people and businesses it would piss off world wide.

I could propose a similar situation to fix the US economic problems but that idea would exist in a vacuum that would similarly collapse the moment you let in an outside idea.

Monkey King

@Luphrecio:

nah china is a bit different, they could stop funding u.s. debt without going to wwIII what would happen is that they would stop artificially keeping the value of their currency low, so that it would rise to what its acutally worth (china produces a LOT) buy gold mines, and cut off the gold supply to all other countries, back their currency with gold(gold standard) and let the chinese people thmselves consume their own products,

Why the fuck do you keep ignoring me. I already shot down this moronic point.

instead of sending them to the u.s. (since the dollar wouldn't be able to afford it) thing is. . .that the transition period of letting their currency rise would. . .HURT for a short period, meaning that lots of chinese people would lose "jobs" and blame the govt. . .the chinese are good at money but they don't want to be run out of control hence all the restrictions on . . .everytyhing

You don't have the foggiest comprehension of modern China, do you.

Whats probably going to happen is that the chinese, japanese, saudis, u,s politicians, e.u countries are conspiring with big banking cartels to lower the value of all currencies to the level that china is at by having other nations print money to pay their debts. which of course is an indirect tax on a nations people and the banking cartels get to mainipulate the markets for their own monetary gain, including manipulating and growing debts through shady deals with thsoe who dont know much about borrowing (dumb politicians)

ahahahahahahahahahah

really when the "GUNS" come out itll probably be the people vs the banks ( see Iceland. . .there is a reason why it isnt in the news anymore)

What the fuck??? Are you implying Iceland is undergoing some sort of guerilla war against banks lol.

Mugiwara_no_Ice

Haven't you heard about those banking cartels who have all the judges and politicians in their pockets?
They even came up with a new currency, the Euro.
Heard the last statement of Goldman Sachs?

I also don't believe in Euros. For years I paid my people extra so they wouldn't do that kind of business. Somebody comes to them and says, "I have Euros; if you put up three, four thousand dollar investment, we can make fifty thousand distributing." So they can't resist. I want to control it as a business, to keep it respectable. [slams his hand on the table and shouts] I don't want it near the G20! I don't want it sold to the new economies! That's an infamia. We would keep the traffic in Africa, the coloreds. They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls.

Monkey King

@Mugiwara_no_Ice:

Haven't you heard about those banking cartels who have all the judges and politicians in their pockets?
They even came up with a new currency, the Euro.
Heard the last statement of Goldman Sachs?

Congratulations, you've earned 50 Italian points.

Aohige_AP

@Luphrecio:

Whats probably going to happen is that the chinese, japanese, saudis, u,s politicians, e.u countries are conspiring with big banking cartels to lower the value of all currencies to the level that china is at by having other nations print money to pay their debts. which of course is an indirect tax on a nations people and the banking cartels get to mainipulate the markets for their own monetary gain, including manipulating and growing debts through shady deals with thsoe who dont know much about borrowing (dumb politicians)

OMG EVERYONE BUT US ARE ENEMIES AND CONSPIRING AGAINST US!!!!!!!11111oneoenoneone

Kindly walk yourself to hell, crazy conspiracy loony man.
What are you, Glenn Beck's twin brother?

Next thing you know this guy's gonna start spouting nonsense about all of us non-Americans are secretly Nazi Jihadists and planning to overthrow his redneck backyard shack.

@Mugiwara_no_Ice:

Heard the last statement of Goldman Sachs?

Just lie here, bud. I'll take care of you now. I'm with you.

Monkey King

_Iceland used to be a land of happiness and quiet.

I would trade half a human finger from my finger necklace just to dream of that old world.
No more.
That's what we said after the financial crisis began.
No more.
That's what we said when they brought out the dogs and tanks.
No more.
That's what we said when we piled the squares high with the gizzards of accountants.
No more.
That's what we said when they began to throw the elderly into the geysers.
No more.

Now "no more" has no more meaning, and I begin to wonder if we should have ever started.

No boats leave this island. No electronic or otherwise human made signals leave it either. Like how no more breaths leave my family…
The outside world knows only a happy land where Bjork and Sigur Ros still play to crowds, instead of rotting in mass graves with the same.
I can see the world press in their distant boats, CNN, BBC, The New York Times, Radio-Disney....
I can almost see them out there smiling as they deliberately report nothing.

And soon there really will be nothing.
They're coming.
They will get me.
I do not want to d_

I survived the buster call

I suppose in the grand scheme of people burning buildings or getting killed for various and sundry reasons, this may be small potatoes, but still… This is just... I don't even...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/11/1005874/-Staffing-agencies-defend-job-ads-discriminating-against-the-unemployed?via=blog_1

Monkey King

God bless the job-creators at those agencies.

Gliblord

It doesn't matter how much logic you fling at a conspiracy theorist, because their pet conspiracy is their malevolent god that can pull off anything and desires only to screw him and his friends. It is also the perfect excuse not to think too hard about moral ambiguities.

loneassassin

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-let-china-see-stealth-chopper-bin-laden-182139386.html

Well this should make the U.S./Pakistan relationship more rocky