What else do you think they were doing? Honestly now. It's either that they threatened him or that they were going to meekly retreat if he went after them.
Where in my quote did they say we're attacking Kizaru? They said they're going through the Marines, not going to gang bang Kizaru a la Blackbeard Pirates to Whitebeard.
Kizaru stopped what he was doing and put his hands up when Beckman appeared and pointed a rifle at him. He called his bluff after a while but that doesn't mean he was not threatened. Do you think Oda would make someone as badass as Ben Beckman doing something as badass as that if he was actually useless and wasn't a threat? That would just make him look dumb.
So now you're going to downplay the significance of the only man who made an Admiral hesitate? Kizaru moves at the speed of light and realized Shanks didn't want the fighting to escalate so made his move. Very easy for the light man to try again while his enemy has his guard down when he suspects they actually have no intention to fight.
Fair enough. I'll admit I underplayed Beckman's role.
The problem is we have no idea how Kizaru handled the scene after "how formidable" because there was no scene for it. And I've explained that the 7 Commanders weren't shown to be fighting Kizaru specifically.
That's definitely not how it works. We know for a fact he can't do it to anyone, since he couldn't beat Whitebeard. There is a limit to his power. Atmos wasn't strong enough to avoid getting caught, you can't just jump from there to that he can do it to every commander. As it happens he did use his power on Jozu, and Oda made it happen when Jozu was off-guard and he did not have Doflamingo control him. It is very likely that he did that because he couldn't have done the same thing to him as to Atmos. I know the war was chaotic but that doesn't mean we can assume Oda didn't do what he did for a reason.
I brought up why Doflamingo controlling Joz has a different context. He held Joz back so he can talk to Crocodile. And once the conversation ended Crocodile blasted them away. There was no need for him to move Joz or time to show him to move Joz.
That is nonsense. You don't just assume somebodies powers have no limits just because none is shown.That is the very definition of a no limits fallacy.
OBVIOUSLY there are limits. The thing is we don't know what those limits are since they aren't shown. We see him control Atmos easily and once he got a hold of Joz he seemed to hold him just as easily. Even if it is strength, there's nothing to indicate this.
I say Curiel was shown taking on Moria and Atmos be toyed with by Doflamingo, and it would be hypocritical to let it mean something when it suits you and claim the war chaos card when it doesn't.
I say Curiel vs Moria is irrelevant because we don't see the fight at all. We see both Atmos and Doflamingo to be fine later during the war, but it was shown Doflamingo can clearly handle Atmos even though both are fine afterwards. So we don't know.
And I'll admit the whole Aokiji/Joz not fighting off screen is very unlikely.
But are you even asking why? Did you think it was mere coincidence that guys #1 #3 and #5 command respect from the Admirals and Mihawk while the rest were never shown to do so to that extent at all? Happenstance that it was Marco and Jozu that were shown here and here, or Marco and Vista here? You can't actually believe that. Those things happened the way they did because Marco, Jozu and Vista were the strongest of the commanders.
They are shown a lot . They could be "the strongest" but I don't think the other Commanders shouldn't be considered in the same league as them.
We're basing it on how they are portrayed which is very important for figuring out how they stand amongst confirmed big shots. You're argument is just to assume what you want until they are fully revealed. Inazuma has a comparable rank in the Revolutionaries as WB's DC? Inazuma is clearly much weaker than Kuma or Iva or are you going to argue that its too early to judge his strength despite how he is portrayed? Or is the argument going to be its OK to for a Revolutionary commander to be portrayed as only above average in strength but a Yonkou, or just WB's crew, should be held to a higher caliber? If you think either I'd like to know why?
Because Inazuma wasn't given a title of a Whitebeard Commander.