But HOW???
Isn't ninja info card guy controlling their bodies, how can they commit suicide???
Naruto Thread IV
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@Cyan:
But HOW???
Isn't ninja info card guy controlling their bodies, how can they commit suicide???
Plothole No Jutsu, simple and effective.
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The plot told them they could.
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In….............
Hanzou'sdefense, I think I would try to kill myself at this point too.Fixed.
This sentence applies to pretty much 90% of the cast so far.
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The third shouldn't be there anyway… he lost his soul to that ability he used. right?
I was just saying if he could he would be a huge asset to them
Well Oro has already summoned the 4th, which also "lost" his soul.
that failed because of that remember
EDIT: Cyan maybe he tricked kabuto into thinking he was gonna seal his enemies but instead did it to himself, stupid but possible
death = sealing for zombies
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Awesome avatar choperman.
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I wonder if Kishi even remembers they're zombies anymore.
I just don't understand how him stabbing his IMMORTAL REGENERATING body is going to kill him.
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Again, didn't Kabuto supposedly Nuke the personalities of the vast majority of his zombie hoard quite a while ago when Haku and Zabuza had their personalities nuked? Really, nothing about these zombies has been even close to consistent
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Isn't seppuko also a samurai thing (at least origin-wise)? Why is a ninja doing it then?
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Don't know if you've noticed, but the ninjas in Naruto aren't very ninja-like.
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Isn't seppuko also a samurai thing (at least origin-wise)? Why is a ninja doing it then?
Why is a ninja wearing a bright orange jumpsuit, while shouting all the time, fighting one on one with no stealth, etc.
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Yeah, see, my point is that there is an samurai right now fighting this guy who just talked about the principles of ninjas and samurai and differences between them. I am too lazy to look it up, but didn't Hanzou even say something along the lines how that Samurai guy lost his principles and adapted to those of ninjas and how this is a bad thing?
And then suddenly Hanzou pulls a katana out of his ass (we don't have the chapter yet, but didn't his weapon break last chapter? Let alone being anything but a katana or even a regular sword) and does a suicide in the style of a samurai.
Kinda… Weird in my opinion, but maybe it makes sense in the context of the chapter. Well, kind of at least.
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I'm going to pretend that every chapter Kishi spits out from now on is now an artistic representation on Japan's current state.
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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@dirt:
I'm going to pretend that every chapter Kishi spits out from now on is now an artistic representation on Japan's current state.
But Japan will eventually get back on its feet, that's the difference.
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@Cyan:
But Japan will eventually get back on its feet, that's the difference.
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I'm also betting on Naruto ending before the full recovery.
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OMG, I hope the spoilers aren't true….....
A Zombie commiting suicide? No level of suspension of disbelief is gonna make me buy that if it's true :>_<:
What the hell Kishi.
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From what I noticed most of the zombies dissipate once something emotional happens to them… I was under the impression that Hanzou was previously a Samurai that went ninja, atleast that is what I got from the dialog.
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No one posted spoilers yet?
! Flashback of Hanzou vs Mifune fight in the past
Hanzou commits Seppuku (suicide)
! Ino-Shika-Chou vs Asuma
Shikamaru sees an opening and gives Chouji an order to attack
Chouji is unable to attack
"Asuma, evade!" he says as he counterattacks.! So a zombie… Who kills himself. Wat.
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that failed because of that remember
Nah, it was because of the 3rd interfering.
Edit : Poisonned Zombie commits seppuku, and Asuma said "evade" to Chouji as he counter attacks
! Mifune : You don’t remember me, all right. But it seems you don’t even remember our past fight.
Mifune’s sword is destroyed.
Hanzou slash him and Mifune bleed from his head.
Hanzou : This is the poison of the Salamander. Of course, my weapon is poisoned too.
Mifune : Ugh
Hanzou : I’ll tell you why people call me “Hanzou of the Salamander”. As a souvenir you will take with you to hell.
In my village there is a black salamander that can create mortal toxical poison.
Mifune : !?
Hanzou : I was a child When it died. I embedded his poison bag. It’s right here. ( Left side of his stomach ) so I can be immune to his poison.
And I can poison my surrounding just by breathing.
As I child I was scared so I stopped breathing with my mouth to prevent poisoning my surrounding.
Mifune : So why didn’t you remove your mask ?
Hanzou : Because there is a risk. My mask is there to prevent me from breathing my own poison.
Mifune : ?
Hanzou : Think about it, if someone slash my inner poison bag, the poison would exit my body and there is a possibility that I would breath it.
If I breath all the poison, it would override my poison resistance and I would be render unable to move, creathig an opening.
And I can’t allow this to happen. So I can fight people like you.
Mifune : People and swords are alike. But now it’s … over for me. Profound Sadness !
Hanzou : Let me tell you something. Do you know when people die ?
Mifune : ?
Hanzou : When they lose their beliefs.
That’s why you were a pain. People judge from outward apparence. You may be defeated but
that’s not because you were too soft.
That’s because you were afraid of my name. Because you swore to prtect your friends. Thoses friends you used as shields.
Mifune : panting
Hanzou : Now, hero, I will name you. Tell me when you die, Tell me your NAME !
Mifune : breathing heavily
Hanzou : Let me hear it !
Mifune : Don’t ever lay a hand on my samurai comrades.
Hanzou : Here’s a counter poison medecine.
Mifune : ?
Hanzou : They say you can’t judge one’s belief by looking at people. I realized during battle.
It’s been a long time I saw someone like you. Today, I let you live. It’s not like you were going to die immediatly after, though.
Hanzou uses counter poison medecine on Mifune.
Hanzou : From on now, will you die with your beliefs ? Or will you throw them and live ?
Back to present.
Mifune : I wanted to make sure but … did you really threw you beliefs ?
Hanzou : You can’t judge that by looking at me.
Mifune : !
Hanzou : I’m immortal all right, but there is a way to stop me. I already explained it to you Mifune.
Use the opening to seal me. If you don’t do it, you will …
Samurai : Master Mifune ! The poison is …
Mifune : I’m ok. I have resistance against this poison. But from on now it will be different.
Everyone back off, with me. Prepare the seal.
Hanzou prepare to use his blade.
Mifune : Look around you.
Hanzou : Mifune, I entrust my beliefs to you. ( Hanzou stabs himself with his blade ).
Samurai : Seppuku ?
Hanzou : This poison is the real deal.
You can’t breath this even if your have resistance against it, be careful.
Kabuto : My order fuuda tag is faiding. Suicide ? Then I just have to control all their moves myself one by one.
Hanzou shivers and crumbles.
Mifune : So you didn’t threw you beliefs after all.
Multiple ninjas performs a seal on Hanzou.
Kabuto : What the ? The tag stopped working.
Mifune : “Hero” was the name you gave me. I was able to see your beliefs with my own eyes. Well done, Hanzou-dono.
Shikamaru : Stop being a slowpoke, Chouji. Pull yourself together.
Ino : He’s coming !
Asuma : Shikamaru ! Use Shadow Mimic on Chouji to capture me !
Shikamaru : That’s what I’m planning. ( Kage Mane no Jutsu ! )
Shikamaru manage to capture Asuma by using Chouji’s shadow.
Shikamaru : Now, Chouji !
Asuma : (Perfect !)
Chouji uses Partial Multi-Expansion Jutsu on his hand and goes for Asuma’s head but stops his gigantic
fist just before hitting Asuma’s face.
Asuma : What the HELL are you doing Chouji ?
Shikamaru : Chouji ! Come on !
Ino : Chouji …
Chouji : I can’t. I just can’t. I’m unable to knock down and hit Asuma. I can’t do that.
Asuma : Chouji ! ( Asuma roundhouse kick and blow off chouji )
Asuma : DODGE ! Fuuton : Fuujin no Jutsu ( Wind Style : Dust Blast Technique ) -
….Did he really say "Profound Sadness!".
And wasn't Hanzo supposed to be a prick?
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In Naruto no one is a prick when they die. They get all the excuses, and their evil is returned to the world.
Just wait, we'll get a random hidan's flashback once he finishes rotting.
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That's pretty profound. "The world is evil but it takes over the body of certain people. When they die the world repossesses its evil."
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That's pretty profound. "The world is evil but it takes over the body of certain people. When they die the world repossesses its evil."
If it was a better series it would be the truth.
It's opposed to the theme of the significance of life, that we come to the world to learn and return that knowledge to "the universe" in order to improve it.
If I was a better writter I could do something cool with that..
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Hanzou is a dick, but he's actually not a dick.
Kabuto controls the zombies' every move and can turn them into mindless killing machines whenever he wishes, but it turns out he's not in control after all.
A metaphor for the duality of human existence, plotted by nr. 1 mangaka Masashi Kishimoto.
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spoiler pics y'all XD….
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Mifune : You don’t remember me, all right. But it seems you don’t even remember our past fight.
Past
Mifune’s sword is destroyed.
Hanzou slash him and Mifune bleed from his head.
Hanzou : This is the poison of the Salamander. Of course, my weapon is poisoned too.
Mifune : Ugh
Hanzou : I’ll tell you why people call me “Hanzou of the Salamander”. As a souvenir you will take with you to hell.
In my village there is a black salamander that can create mortal toxical poison.
Mifune : !?
Hanzou : I was a child When it died. I embedded his poison bag. It’s right here. ( Left side of his stomach ) so I can be immune to his poison.
And I can poison my surrounding just by breathing. -
Perfect, Hanzou has Purple Haze-lite.
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Go to Kimimaro now :getlost:
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"Poison his surroundings….by just breathing"
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I'm actually kind of reminded of Magellan a bit since his breath could release poison.
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Didn't Kabuto say that he was going to strip the zombies of their wills, leaving behind nothing but emotionless automatons? Specifically to avoid them being talked-to-death?
So, uh…whatever happened to that?
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Didn't Kabuto say that he was going to strip the zombies of their wills, leaving behind nothing but emotionless automatons? Specifically to avoid them being talked-to-death?
So, uh…whatever happened to that?
the ability is imperfect, also he is trying to control the will of an absurd amount of zombies, I hope that as they dwindle down he gains more control.
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Yeah I was wondering about that as well. Especially since he already started doing it. Maybe he was going to do them one by one, but after Zabuza and Haku he decided to go on a lunch break or something
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The third hokage had to sacrifice himself in order to seal the first and second hokage edo tensei… but when I see people sealing the edo tensei easily every chapter I find it hard to beleive that the third really needed to sacrifice himself ...
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Didn't Kabuto say that he was going to strip the zombies of their wills, leaving behind nothing but emotionless automatons? Specifically to avoid them being talked-to-death?
So, uh…whatever happened to that?
no in one panel he said, that he is going to let some characters personality,because he can made adventage of that(asuma etc etc etc)
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-522/page011.html
bottom right
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Oh, yeah, because that's working out so well for him.
I mean hell, the zombies are actively telling the enemy how to stop their attacks and seal them! Keep holding onto the idiot ball, Kabuto.
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no in one panel he said, that he is going to let some characters personality,because he can made adventage of that(asuma etc etc etc)
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-522/page011.html
bottom right
asuma? really? bad example there. he is helping his opponents by telling them exactly what he is doing and how to beat him
his personality is no helping one bit. even if he was a mindless zombie i imagine chouji woudl still hesitate attacking him.
so far has having a personality HELPED any of the zombies? so far it has seemed to ONLY result in their beating or own death
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i didnt say,that the personality is helping Kabutomaru..I just pointed out,that kishi did say,that some zombies are going to have their personality..
i dont even think,that some good guys are going to die in this war..just like in bleach^^
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Too bad i don't care about Mifune or whatever, it would have been a nice chapter if we had some development for those guys.
And yeah, a zombie, a rotten corpse, was paralyzed…
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Sometimes I come to think that it would be more productive if ninja from the village hidden in a beer brewery could provide enough drinks for everyone to sit down, talk, disintegrate or get a hangover, rather than messing with this war.
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i dont even think,that some good guys are going to die in this war..just like in bleach^^
Is there any chance, that though not killed, but anyone from the good guys will get defeated or taken down?
Its as if in the OP war, all the shichibukai, admirals, VA and so on get defeated before luffy/whitebeard even appeared on the battle field.
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The main problem with this war is that it's too one sided. There's no intensity, suspense, worry, or speculation about what's going to happen next. We know what's going to happen next. The good guys win.
Also, little to no emotional investment in most of the characters fighting.
Is there any chance, that though not killed, but anyone from the good guys will get defeated or taken down?
Its as if in the OP war, all the shichibukai, admirals, VA and so on get defeated before luffy/whitebeard even appeared on the battle field.
I think you might want to re-read the war.
Everything's Eventual…
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Just one question:
Which sick doc would implant a kid a bag of poison..what the fuck is going on there? -
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That whole poison thing is so fucking retarded.
"I have a poison sac in my body which makes me a poison man and immune to it. I still am affected when breathing it though, WHICH OF COURSE IS MORE DIRECT CONTACT THAN HAVING ALL THAT STUFF IN MY FUCKING BODY."
:wassat:
Also Kabuto once again missed a nuking possibility, similar to Deidara and the brothers. He could have just made him take off the mask by force since the zombies are unable to die either way and send him straight into the enemy army. Even if there was paralysis, the puppet playing old woman (don't know her name right now) could just control his body.
Oh well, at least the flashback was good.
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Why are people acting like people didn't die until the end of the OP war. Like i said before Kishi will kill people and its a gurentee. Kishi isn't afraid to kill good guys. This isn't bleach. The alliance is just riding high right now until Kishi makes shit hit the fan.
Kabuto said he can't control them all. He said he doesn't know how much pawns he could control and will gather that data during battle. Like i said before he was lying to Madara. The jutsu isn't flawless, Kabuto was talking out of his ass to Madara. Like Madara said no jutsu this powerful can be flawless. Kabuto didn't want to inform Madara. Madara placed a zetsu spore on Kabuto through.
@Suaza Hanzo did that. Going against Kabuto order.
I like how Hanzo always spears the life of worthy opponents.
Choji fatass always getting emotional and shit. He needs to swallow a pill and rape Asuma.
