Chapter 601: "Romance Dawn for the New World" Discussion
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Still can't get over Luffy using Mantra. :D
I wonder if he's physically more powerful than before, or is just using Presence?
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Anyone got a better idea for how to pass the time between now and the next chapter? Would you rather dredge up the Usual Suspects: (1) who is stronger (2) who has the biggest boobs (3) what is One Piece, (4) where is Raftel (5) who will join the crew next…
I can tell you what i do. But it has nothing to do with forum activities :)
I wonder if he's physically more powerful than before, or is just using Presence?
I do believe he is. I do think that luffys physical strength is something that's evolving naturally. It's just not that visible. It's easy to do the math. He was fighting big monsters for 2 years and it's not far fetched to think that he gained physical strength during this time.
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Still can't get over Luffy using Mantra. :D
I wonder if he's physically more powerful than before, or is just using Presence?
He wasn't using mantra, he's just so fast now that he can dodge lazers! :ninja:
I think you misunderstood the if I can see it part.
Robin wanted to say: I can catch what I see. And not: I can only grow limbs on things I see.
For example when Usopp was drowning in Skypeia http://somemanga.com/alt/One_Piece/237/citymanga.com/8/ she grew an Eye on Luffys Hand without beeing able to see the part where she grew her hand.So I guess it's more like a: I need to know where I have to grow it.
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And by the way: She usually lowers her head and CLOSES her eyes when she uses her power.Ooooh yeah! kinda forgot about that heheheh…
I'm going to go hide in the corner now.
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whoa they seriously did a 20 year time skip?
No, but it's a series where it could happen. Actually, it sorta kinda did. So, yes.
Wait What?
I can only remember them doing a 2'000 hours Timeskip that was compressed down to a few minutes but other than that…Edit: On the other hand, One Piece had a 10 year-Timeskip (Luffy grows up) and a 2 year-Timeskip (now) and sort of, kinda, something like, a 20-year Timeskip (Shiki goes into hiding).
Still it doesn't beat the 100 year Timeskip between Dragonball GT and the last movie ;-) -
[..]More importantly, we're about to see them all make there way to fish man island. We've been waiting for this since 2007[..]
Since Aarlong actually, though it was re-empasized after W7
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It would be sweet if one of the SH's learned Fishman Karate, lol. :P Even if they are human..O_o
+1 Awosome! 16 char
EDIT: oh my I think I spoiled for me.
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I think one or two strong hammer from Franky should take out a Pacifistas. Franky boxing with be awesome to see now that he has huge arms and hands that are certainly not for show.
It's funny to look back and see that it took all of Luffy and the rest to take down a Pacifista. I also wonder after the timeskip how the new screencap for the newly designed Strawhat crew will look like in the anime. -
i still cant see how robin cud possibly have gained anystrength. If she makes decoys she cud get herself killed considering what happens 2 her grown body parts happen 2 her
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i still cant see how robin cud possibly have gained anystrength. If she makes decoys she cud get herself killed considering what happens 2 her grown body parts happen 2 her
Howabout this for an idea of how she got stronger? She got stronger. What use could that possibly be you ask? She can break stronger peoples necks now.
But seriously, you don't think Oda has come up with a bunch of cool new things for Robin to do now?
On the other hand it's robin new knowledge that will make her really valuable in my opinion.
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So I went over to the sleepyfans blog to read their scan and guess what I find? Gum Gum no Jet Pistol.
Guess they are german? The germans say "Gum Gum"
also some subs say like "Gigant Rifle". I usually say it "gigant-o" "jet-o pistole" jus like the japs :p
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Maybe stupid Question but have we ever seen the damage (like a cut) of a Flower beeing beeing transferred to her real body?
I remember that she was exhausted by holding strong people or performing difficult techniques (Wings).
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Maybe stupid Question but have we ever seen the damage (like a cut) of a Flower beeing beeing transferred to her real body?
I remember that she was exhausted by holding strong people or performing difficult techniques (Wings).
But I can't recall a cut or a shot beeing transferred.Yup In alabasta was the first time we saw it I'll go have a look for the link.
http://somemanga.com/alt/One_Piece/196/citymanga.com/2/
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Chapter was Awesome so were the Monster Trio and so were Rayleigh tears.
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Seeing Luffy was at (or was the cause of) the destruction off all three marine strongholds, does anybody else think G1 is going down next? Luffy has a reputation to uphold you know XD
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Nah… if anything it's Marijoa or the New HQ... G1 is just the old Marine HQ renamed.
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So I went over to the sleepyfans blog to read their scan and guess what I find? Gum Gum no Jet Pistol.
Guess they are german? The germans say "Gum Gum"
also some subs say like "Gigant Rifle". I usually say it "gigant-o" "jet-o pistole" jus like the japs :p
Hearing the '-o' in his attacks makes them authentic, more involved
Lolz, would explain it, though afaik they aren't German. They've released OP in en for a while now, with Gomu Gomu..
Anyway, we know the best translations are always Aohige's :cheerful: -
Seeing Luffy was at (or was the cause of) the destruction off all three marine strongholds, does anybody else think G1 is going down next? Luffy has a reputation to uphold you know XD
Hope he storms G5 and gives smoker a slap on the face that he can feel down to his bones, for all the times Luffy has had to run away or had his ass handed to him by Smoker
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Hope he storms G5 and gives smoker a slap on the face that he can feel down to his bones, for all the times Luffy has had to run away or had his ass handed to him by Smoker
What wouldn't I give to see that! And the subsequent Smoker expression! xD Just like Enel's I bet!
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Rayleigh(2° of Gol D. Roger) and Zoro(2° of Monkey D. Luffy) have the same scar, one on the left eye one on the right one… :getlost:
Oda showed it clearly ... :getlost: -
Robin's power up should be related to her brain ability to process information and control her body parts for many different tasks, maybe something like ambidexterity, but in much larger scale.
we know she could make one or two giant hands/wings, so maybe she will be able make lots of them now, each doing different tasks.
and imagine she's having many pairs of eyes to read multiple books at the same time!
and I wonder if she even can duplicate her brain, imagine a super computer! lol
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I can't wait to see Luffy get angry in a real fight and shows us what he is really capable of now :)
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After re-reading the chapter i noticed something.
He jumps out of the way of incoming laser first time and get revealed.His bag is behind him and tells ppl that his special food is there.The second time he dodges the laser but the bag should be still behind him and get owned by the laser explosion?Why that doesnt happen? -
After re-reading the chapter i noticed something.
He jumps out of the way of incoming laser first time and get revealed.His bag is behind him and tells ppl that his special food is there.The second time he dodges the laser but the bag should be still behind him and get owned by the laser explosion?Why that doesnt happen?He was so fast that he had time to hide it. You know Luffy, he loves his food.
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Still can't get over Luffy using Mantra. :D
I wonder if he's physically more powerful than before, or is just using Presence?
He's many times stronger in all aspects obviously. It's not like all he was doing the past two years was sitting down meditating.
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i wonder what a gear 2 gear 3 gattling gun wud look like…....
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I have read the chapter and same for the comments posted in this thread.
I liked the chapter, perhaps it was a bit too short (to tell the truth) but I liked it.
My only two comments that I can think of regarding the debates circling in this thread would be:1) Partial Gear 2
When you are reading a shounen manga you instantly drop any physic! Not true, you loosen the laws of the physics and you adjust to the added laws the mangaka decided to add.
However even those mustnt be way out of the ordinary average shounen manga BS we read.
So when Oda says there are DF fruits, they alter humans bodies. We are ok with it, and when he explains Luffy basically pupms his blood and because it circulates faster etc he gets stronger/faster and so on.
We dig that, it is ok.
Now partial Gear 2 is all of a sudden out of this earth and strange.
My comment on that would be, that such comments irritate me, especially when I read the same thing over and over again over 40 pages of a thread.
Partial Gear 2 is ok, it is not like Luffy can fire lighting bolts out of his ass or Pell who survived a super big explosion and so on…2) SH are all of a sudden too strong
Firstly I ll say this. SH have known eachother prior to their separation for few months as far as we know. In that few months, Luffy has gained Gear 2 and 3, Sanji got DJ and all and all if we compare them to the fighting trio who barely won over Don Krieg, to a group of pirates who were able to defeat 2 shichibukai and invade EL and so on…
We can see their progress was fast...but even so... we see they are no match for the big boys.So than Oda decides a time skip will follow.A time skip that is in all likeliness about 5 times as long as their time together. So if we follow this Shounen manga exponental growth this should mean they have become a lot more stronger and if we add the fact that they have needed only a few months to travel the GL and will probably need a few months to travel NW, we should understand that their growth should not and probably will not be as big as durring this two year when they were training non stop and some of them were even trained by people who knew things they did not, in order to help them advance faster.
So my point. What the hell is so strange if they can pwn a pacifista. Pacificstas will still cause problems for some strong pirates, but not to the crew who is kind of expected to have a Pirate King among them in what less than a year from now?
Will they just pwn everybody now?No!
Will this make their journey easier? I sure hope so. Kid, Law and other SN are mostly doing fine in NW for over 2 years now and if Luffy and company would start to strugle first in Fishman island and than right of the bat as they come to NW you would start to wonder if they have not wasted the two years, and should have gone along with Kid and later Law to the NW, if they have made it, it is quite likely SH's would too.So yes I expect them to be among the stronger pirate crews now. Yonkous and perhaps few of the pirate crews could be stronger but thats it. As for Marines, I expect them to pwn everything that isnt Admiral or higher (perhaps unseen force yet) We also shouldnt forget we have BB as well as Doflamingo Mihawk, Dragon and god knows what else in NW.
We have been watching defeat after defeat of SH crew for a while now and after 2 years of time skip we see them pwning pacifistas and people are crying whining left and right.
If sentomaru attacks Luffy I expect him to perhaps stand a few seconds before Luffy gets serious, but thats it.
So where is Luffy in terms of power at this moment. No idea, same clue as you, but my guess is between Vice Admiral and Admiral. -
I have read the chapter and same for the comments posted in this thread.
I liked the chapter, perhaps it was a bit too short (to tell the truth) but I liked it.
My only two comments that I can think of regarding the debates circling in this thread would be:1) Partial Gear 2
When you are reading a shounen manga you instantly drop any physic! Not true, you loosen the laws of the physics and you adjust to the added laws the mangaka decided to add.
However even those mustnt be way out of the ordinary average shounen manga BS we read.
So when Oda says there are DF fruits, they alter humans bodies. We are ok with it, and when he explains Luffy basically pupms his blood and because it circulates faster etc he gets stronger/faster and so on.
We dig that, it is ok.
Now partial Gear 2 is all of a sudden out of this earth and strange.
My comment on that would be, that such comments irritate me, especially when I read the same thing over and over again over 40 pages of a thread.
Partial Gear 2 is ok, it is not like Luffy can fire lighting bolts out of his ass or Pell who survived a super big explosion and so on…2) SH are all of a sudden too strong
Firstly I ll say this. SH have known eachother prior to their separation for few months as far as we know. In that few months, Luffy has gained Gear 2 and 3, Sanji got DJ and all and all if we compare them to the fighting trio who barely won over Don Krieg, to a group of pirates who were able to defeat 2 shichibukai and invade EL and so on…
We can see their progress was fast...but even so... we see they are no match for the big boys.So than Oda decides a time skip will follow.A time skip that is in all likeliness about 5 times as long as their time together. So if we follow this Shounen manga exponental growth this should mean they have become a lot more stronger and if we add the fact that they have needed only a few months to travel the GL and will probably need a few months to travel NW, we should understand that their growth should not and probably will not be as big as durring this two year when they were training non stop and some of them were even trained by people who knew things they did not, in order to help them advance faster.
So my point. What the hell is so strange if they can pwn pacifista. Pacificstas will still cause problems for some strong pirates, but not to the crew who is kind of to expected to have a Pirate King among them in what less than a year from now?
Will they just pwn everybody now?No!
Will this make their journey easier? I sure hope so. Kid, Law and other SN are mostly doing fine in NW for over 2 years now and if Luffy and company would start to strugle first in Fishman island and than right of the bat as they come to NW you would start to wonder if they have not wasted the two years, and should have gone along with Kid and later Law to the NW, if they have made it, it is quite likely SH's would too.So yes I expect them to be among the stronger pirate crews now. Yonkous and perhaps few of the pirate crews could be stronger but thats it. As for Marines, I expect the to pwn everything that isnt Admiral or higher (perhaps unseen force yet) We also shouldnt forget we have BB as well as Doflamingo Mihawk, Dragon and god knows what else in NW.
We have been watching defeat after defeat of SH crew for a while now and after 2 years of time skip we see them pwning pacifistas and people are crying whining left and right.
If sentomaru attacks Luffy I expect him to perhaps stand a few seconds before Luffy gets serious, but thats it.
So where is Luffy in terms of power at this moment. No idea, same clue as you, but my guess is between Vice Admiral and Admiral.ty for summarizing the insults to these ppl ^^
People just wanted a chapter dedicated to the ultimate 1v1 fighting with all the new moves unleashed right here. people these days dont appreciate good story telling, i bet half the ppl here wants a 50 page chapter that leads to the end~
My addition to this is that if SH can take out the pacifistas like no problem, they can't really be used against too many ppl in the new world. Of course, if we are introduced non-joke pirate hunters, they are gonna be 10x the skill of a pacifista which i would enjoy. same with the rest of the pirates (imo, a huge fight will go on between Kid and Luffy, because kid hurts civilians and luffy..doesnt…hurt civilians. their crew is pretty similar too, so i cant wait for that to happen
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Is a Gigant Gattling even reasonable? I mean, one of the major drawbacks of G3 is that is slows his move down a lot and Gattling seems like a move that relies on the speed of Luffy's punches more than anything else.
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zoro has rayleigh's scar. what would he look like with his hair and beard though?
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Is a Gigant Gattling even reasonable? I mean, one of the major drawbacks of G3 is that is slows his move down a lot and Gattling seems like a move that relies on the speed of Luffy's punches more than anything else.
thats why i was hoping gear 2 wud be in it =P. that wud brg his speed bak to normal rite? it would kinda put him in the shoes of the diamond jouzu guy speed and power
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Is it wrong for me to say that the thing I am waiting the most for in the next chapter is Caribou killing more Marines and the Fake SH's?
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Oda will give them opponents to fight that are best suited to their fighting style. Someone like Franky could probably take on a larger variety of opponents compared to Usopp. This is speculation but I still think that the weak trio may be weak compared the pirates that have made a name for themselves in the new world i.e. supernovas or any other pirates that aren't considered top tier
It's too bad that Franky is going to be near-useless fodder for Eustass Kidd
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thats why i was hoping gear 2 wud be in it =P. that wud brg his speed bak to normal rite? it would kinda put him in the shoes of the diamond jouzu guy speed and power
I really don't know how you can say that. We didn't actually see Joz do much other than block Mihawk's attack and get frozen, we have no idea what his speed and power are.
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It's too bad that Franky is going to be near-useless fodder for Eustass Kidd
He may have changed the materials he is built from, who know he could be built from seastone now then kid would be destroyed (note: I don't actually think he is built from seastone that was just an example).
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Power? He lifted and threw an Ice Cube the Size of a Battleship.
Remindet me of Saul when he threw an actual Battleship.He may have changed the materials he is built from, who know he could be built from seastone now then kid would be destroyed (note: I don't actually think he is built from seastone that was just an example).
Plastic-Franky would be Lame
Carbon-fiber-Franky betterSeastone Franky??? He couldn't get close to most of the crew….
STEEL-Franky is still the best
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Great chapter
Zoro seemed to be the only one who just used a normal attack
partial gear from luffy with haki awesome seriously loved the whole sceen from dodging a light laser beam sayin it was too slow then the finisher
sanji isnt diablo coolloved how the fakes got rid off
felt sad for the marine killed by the bro hope he gets taken out by chopper or something like thatbounties seem awefully low for the crew after this chapter a captain worth 80 supposedly greater threat than sanji was one shoted compared to the feat sanji pulled off
grreat chapter fishman island will be the true test of strength simular to how skyapia pushed them in terms of oxygen etc
Fellow member, I feel sorry for you.
The 15+ next years of New World will be damn hell for you .EDIT
Question: Are Hacci & Camie & Starfish dude joining the Straw Hats to Fishman Island?
We haven't seen them yet???My guess on this is the world is now so filled with ruthlessness, they can't wait on S.I. anymore. Way to much easy targets. They are waiting with Jinbei on FI.
I love the new start. Let's discover One Piece world again !
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It's too bad that Franky is going to be near-useless fodder for Eustass Kidd
I don't think so /: If Kid's powers were effective on such a large scale he would've been able to just suck in a kumabot and then repel him the fuck away. That seems unlikely. So I'm thinking Franky will be just fine (:
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thats why i was hoping gear 2 wud be in it =P. that wud brg his speed bak to normal rite? it would kinda put him in the shoes of the diamond jouzu guy speed and power
**Possibly. I doubt it though.
But as for being near Jaws' in any department (except flexibility obviously lol), that's not gonna happen for a long time. Jaws isn't a top-tier fighter for nothing.**
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anyways, why woudl u want to suck in a pacifista or franky. so that they can shoot u much easier? lol
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**Possibly. I doubt it though.
But as for being near Jaws' in any department (except flexibility obviously lol), that's not gonna happen for a long time. Jaws isn't a top-tier fighter for nothing.**
Jozu Top Tier ? :getlost:
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anyways, why woudl u want to suck in a pacifista or franky. so that they can shoot u much easier? lol
That's true lol. Unless you're just that fast I guess.
@.Roronoa:Jozu Top Tier ? :getlost:
**It's pretty freakin obvious he is.
He's was the second strongest person under Whitebeard's command, effortlessly stopped a flying slash from the world's strongest swordsman with his face of all things, was able to tango with Aokiji and only lost so quickly because he became distracted, him throwing that iceberg was one of the absolute greatest feats of strength in the manga (only Garp's cannonball even comes close), is implied to be stronger than the likes of Vista who was able to fight with Mihawk of all people on seemingly equal ground for a time etc.
He is without a doubt of the highest tier, along with the Admirals, Garp, Sengoku, the Emperors etc. I mean, sure, there's no way he can beat or fight any of them truly evenly (meaning for an extended period of time) but he can give them all a fair bit of trouble except probably Whitebeard/Roger.**
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Luffy can isolate is gear 2nd to one part of his body
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Jozu Top Tier ? :getlost:
ya…how can u possibly not think hes top tier...well i guess u might be right, one of the best division captains of the whitebeard pirates...obvious trash.
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ya…how can u possibly not think hes top tier...well i guess u might be right, one of the best division captains of the whitebeard pirates...obvious trash.
never said he was trash just not top tier(Admirals Youkou Whitebeard Roger) IMO hes a tier below thats all
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Asked this but I don't remember where. Does anyone know if Brook talks in his old gentlemen like way during his escape or if he still has the "rocker" manerisms?
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Asked this but I don't remember where. Does anyone know if Brook talks in his old gentlemen like way during his escape or if he still has the "rocker" manerisms?
I'm pretty sure Oda knows. :)
Him aside, we need more time to actually see him talk to other SHs. For now I'm just glad it seems he still has skull jokes. -
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Great chapter, Luffy dodging the lazer and owning the pacifista with his Left arm was fantastic. Fluffy getting owned and Zoro an Sanji doing there thing was great also. Can't wait till next week when they set sail hopefully.