I also got it right. I just thought with the separation and islands, there would be a timsekip, and that if there was going to be a timeskip, there'd be no point in it only being a few months.
Timeskip Predictions
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
I'm not exactly sure what point you're trying to make. If 3/4 of the people say that the integral of 2x is x^4 and 1/4 say the integral of 2x is x^2 + C, the 1/4 are right and the 3/4 are still equally wrong.
So yeah I was in the less than 1/4 that got it right =P
The point is that less than a fourth of the users clicked the "correct" answer; the rest picked the incorrect answer.
The smallest amount of people, won. The largest were the runner ups to losing…
Honestly, I'm disappointed in the way it went.
And I was one of the winners
Hahahahaha"I was a follower of ANOTHER!!"
Be honest to yourself, you didn't say shit.
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I never argued about this, that's true, but the reason why I never argued is not what you think, I went to the poll, gave the answer I predicted and didn't give it much importance, only later would I find out about the big debate around it
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That is fairly ironic considering you were one of the biggest creators of sheep of this forum (at least from what I've seen)
You literally create shitty arguments out of nowhere that make no sense, you hide your views under your shitty circular debating and you hide your logic under its validity, also using bullshit storyline terms as the icing of the cake
All to create a thousand followers that say "hey, this guy sure looks smart, let me change my opinion to fit his"
You are the last person in the world that can call me a sheep, dude, no offense
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Yeah, pretty absurd.
lol I'd like to think this can be taken a bit further. Not absurd in the least….
I remember when I said about 4 years ago, It would be cool to see a Devil Fruit that nullifies another Devil Fruit. People got on me saying if the Devil Fruit null'ed another, How could it work in the first place Glad Marshal D. Teach proved my theory right....
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I never argued about this, that's true, but the reason why I never argued is not what you think, I went to the poll, gave the answer I predicted and didn't give it much importance, only later would I find out about the big debate around it
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That is fairly ironic considering you were one of the biggest creators of sheep of this forum (at least from what I've seen)
You literally create shitty arguments out of nowhere that make no sense, you hide your views under your shitty circular debating and you hide your logic under its validity, also using bullshit storyline terms as the icing of the cake
All to create a thousand followers that say "hey, this guy sure looks smart, let me change my opinion to fit his"
You are the last person in the world that can call me a sheep, dude, no offense
Definition of a sheep: you!
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Shit, my fingers got burned by the sheer burn of "No, U!" delivered there.
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All to create a thousand followers that say "hey, this guy sure looks smart, let me change my opinion to fit his"
I'm sure most of those voters picked that option for more reasons than this one. I was among those that didn't trust long timeskips, but knowing Oda, surely he can make this one work.
You are the last person in the world that can call me a sheep, dude, no offense
Definition of a sheep: you!
Hm…
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@S.C.:
Shit, my fingers got burned by the sheer burn of "No, U!" delivered there.
To be fair, anything else he could have said aside from "You're right" would have been even more laughable
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To be fair, anything else he could have said aside from "You're right" would have been even more laughable
Honestly, the guy that said, "I'm just bashing a character because everyone else is doing it… HARDY HAR HAR!!" just moments ago is honestly a sheep, clueless even, to every fiber of his being.
I hear the BANDWAGON is about to leave soon; best hop on cause they all doing it!!
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Oh, right
Yeah, on that aspect I'm a sheep
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Oh, right
Yeah, on that aspect I'm a sheep
You're still the last person that can call me a sheep, thoughWhy must a sheep "BAAAAA!!" so fucking much?
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Dead man posting.
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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@JERK:
Dead man posting.
LOL so true…
But AGOG has lost faith in this manga after Ace revival hasn't happened. Damn it was so clear.........
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Poor AGOG.:getlost:
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I see this thread hasn't changed much. That makes me….happy?
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Change? It always does but only in a circular manner. Yep, it's in a revolutionary motion not plain linear.
@ Kishido: wasn't there a time you almost gave up on the manga when Sanji went to the PINK SIDE of the force? or I may be wrong. XD
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Man… Just imagine Zoro and Mihawk having to endure living together with Perona for 2 years straight. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd turn okama if nothing else.
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Think of all the damn Zoro/Mihawk Doujins that will spawn from this timeskip.
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I predict that Luffy will sport chin stubble the same way he had it at the end of Romance Dawn Version 1, He'll also have a similar hair cut.
EDIT: Also Camie will make Luffy a Captains Jacket, it would tie in with her dream of being a fashion designer.
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Uses thread for what its supposed to be used for.
Updated Ideas. New Ideas will be below the 'Edits' Line. And throughout some Ideas have been changed after hearing sound arguments as well as some have been altered according to my 'own' sound argument.All Ideas & Suggestions are appreciated. As is criticism.
! The Straw Hats:
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'
! Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking if nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye. We will learn more about Zoro's 'killing intent'. If it is the same thing as haki or not. Killing intent in most shows I've seen it used in its the same thing as COQ Haki.
! Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.
Sanji the reason I say he will learn COO is because I'm pretty sure the Zoro/Sanji will learn both COO & COA. I'm simply predicting that Sanji will Learn COO first.
And trust me, if you had a bunch of Homo martial artist chasing you around you would develop a way to know when they are coming and avoid them. Just saying.
! - The Weaker SHs:
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. (This will probably happen in the first Major Arc of the New World.) I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically. Bombs as well as all his usually repertoire.
! Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF.
! Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I believe that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink
! Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)
! Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. Most likely COO. She has always been the 'brains' type. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.
! Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.
! - New SH Crew Member: A lot of people think Hancock, Jimbei or Perona will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.
! Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.
! Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.
! Perona: I would definitely rather see Boa join than her and with Moria's disappearing act I would say she will most likely go back to her Captain. In the Thrillerbark Arc she seemed to have great knowledge of 'Bounties' as in who people are and what their bounty is and what their reputation is. That's pretty much what Robin does… Her other skill is limited-medical knowledge. That's Choppers job. I just don't see the crew needing her.
! (New!)Positions to be filled:
Helmsman: TBD
Chronicler: TBD
Cabin Boy/Girl: TBD
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! -Blackbeard: will be a close if not already a Yonkou. (New!)
People are right. Blackbeard isn't the Yonkou type. He is after One Piece not to mention he doesn't seem to care for people outside of his crew. I Really can't see him stopping to collect territory and I definitely don't see him coming back to defend it. He will probably spend these 2 years mastering his new DF abilities. Hopefully he will have acquired a ship. I'm pretty sure we are also going to learn how he knows so much about the government (for example why Jewelery Bonney was so important to them and what he was trying to trade her for.)
-Supernovas: XDrake/Kid/Basil/Law/ & Killer will be the only surviving Original Supernovas. I Suspect their will be new supernovas as well. (New!)
There will definitely be new supernovas. I think the SH are going to run into some 'cocky' supernovas on SH who try to bother them but get stomped. But someone pointed out something that should have been obvious to me. Oda wouldn't have introduced all the Supernovas if he was just going to kill most of them off. However I have a feeling that the Supernovas growth will not be as great as the SH. Except for maybe Kid & Law.
-Luffy's Debt to Law: The only way I see Luffy paying Law back is to save him from something. I also think their will be a rivalry between Law/SH similar to the Gold Roger/Whitebeard rivalry.
-Admirals: Aokiji New Fleet Admiral. First Admiral to fall will be Akainu. New admiral will be a 'Sword Master'. All the current Vice-Admirals = Sword Users if you look at the WB vs WG Arc.
-Thousand Sunny: will be guarded by Pacifistas. Flying Fishboys and Shakky will be in trouble.
-Pacifista: XDrake + SH take out Pacifista program. The Pacifista program seems a lot like the OP version of Sentinel(X-Men.) and I definitely see them being used to commit horrible acts throughout the world. These bad bots will definitely be big factors in the 'New World.'
-Mihawk: gets targeted by Blackbeard Pirates Shiliew(Shiryu) which will give Zoro a new person to beat.
- Moria: starts moving against the world government. Possibly joining the RA or another pirate crew. The other idea I've thought of is that he discovered a different set of abilities hidden within his DF that gave him a new level of power possibly giving him the ability to stand on his own. PS: The way he escaped from Doflamingo I belief was traveling through shadows. (Seeing as how they tried to kill him and all.)
-Doflamingo: vs SH. (The SH will run into Doflamingo doing some shaddy shit in the 'New World'. He will hurt someone Luffy befriends.)
- Three New Shichibukai: - Besides Buggy. One Supernova (Your guess is as good as mine.) & Marco. (Although people will protest saying that Marco will not work for the WG who killed his 'Father & Brother'. But I think for someone like Marco he will do whatever it takes to protect WBs family and his territories. And I don't think he will have the power to ascend to Yonkou level.
- Smoker: -> Vice-Admiral.
- Coby: -> Major or Captain. I really just don't see Coby on the same level as Smoker or ready for that responsibility on his own. Although I give him props for stepping in front of Akainu. I would have pissed myself.
- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.
- Haki: Overall I predict that by the end of the first serious arc of the 'New World' almost every member of the SH will have 'Haki' in one form or another. I'm also quite sure that the Logia's have to be in their 'physical' bodies when using 'Haki' meaning they cant just solidify one arm and use 'Haki'.
- CP9: I foresee the 'Pacifista' being used by the elders against town or individual that helped SH in the past. Possibly Water 7. I'm thinking CP9 will choose then to make an 'appearance'. They also have a bone to pick with the 'World Government'. If Rob Lucci's personality has changed after being defeated by Luffy there is also the possibility of CP9 getting recruited by the RA. (Side characters though. I don't see CP9 as on par with SH.)
- Enel: This dude is a beast. Sure he did get beat by Luffy but he is the only one who wouldn't be effected by his 'Lightning.' This dude would cause some real bad-ass trouble if he came down from the moon. He has COO haki, he is is a Logia pretty much he is a beast. The only person I see beating him are possibly Smoker or Kizaru.
- Luffy's Mother: The fact that we know nothing about her and that she was never mentioned makes me thinks she is still alive. I have a feeling she is going to play a major role in future arcs. I believe she is going to also have 'The will of D'. She is going to be bad ass.
! Edits: (New Ideas!)
Enel: Is going to become a pirate. Bounty will be roughly 500, 000, 000 berri.
DF Users:
Logias:
We will see the Water/Wind/Storm & Earth Logia's. (Dragon = Storm.)
A New Flame Logia has been born since Ace's death 2 years ago. (Oda specifically states that there can be more than one of the same DF just not at the same time.)
Zoan:
These will be seen.
Mythical Zoan Dragon/Griffin/Behemoth/Sphinx & Leviathan.
Model Zoan Tiger/Lion and a couple flying type Zoan users.
Paramecia:
Coming Soon.
(Note: Trees do not grow on the bottom of the ocean, in digestive tracks or after a character is turned to 'Ice/Stone/Glass ect…')
! - Garp & Others: Will learn pieces of the 'true' history and be hunted by the Government.
! - Ancient Race: There will be an entire arc invested in this. The SH will find and win the trust of an ancient race that has managed to stay 'secret' from the WG. These people will have key information into the 'lost history' and the true identity of the WG. These people who have managed to stay hidden for so long will probably be found by a branch of the marines. The SH will feel obligated to protect them. During this Arc the SH will have one of their 'major' power ups like Enies Lobby or Arabasta. I predict a face off with Akainu during this time. This arc will most likely happen just before the Revolutionary Army Arc.
! - Hostages of the WG: I believe we will learn that Vegapunk/Jewelery Bonney and others are hostages of the WG. Forced to work/research and serve them. I believe the WG offers to recruit almost all 'talented' people they find. However 'asking' is only a nicety they preform. I believe we will find several people who were forced to make weapons/research & more that does harm to others.
! - Secrets of the World Government: The current WG is the winning side of the war that took place during the 'Blank Age'. The Tenryubitto are the 'Loyal' or Descendants of the Original Commanders/Leaders. Ohara's obliteration wasn't for fear of them unleashing the weapon but fear that they would learn to much about the past. The fact that the WG didn't attempt to pump them for information indicates that their is something so devastating in the WGs past that it wasn't worth the risk even if they managed to find the ancient weapons. The WG was formed to find the hidden weapons. The Marines were formed to stop people from getting in their way. The reason that they protect 'so called' Justice is because if they didn't protect the people they would have to deal with rebellions/opposing world powers and so on and so forth. They gain the support of the people and in secret can do whatever they please. Not to mention under the banner of 'Justice' there is an unlimited supply of able bodied recruits. The toleration of the Tenryubitto as the creators of the world is simply a 'myth'. The 'Will of D' revolves around the 'original' person to discover the sins of the WG and the one who first uncovered all the 'Lost/Blank History'. I believe he was originally a member of the WG. Vegapunk has already created a 'new weapon' that the WG is keeping in reserve.(I will be adding more as more topics come to me.)
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
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i was thinking after the time skip how long will we use this thread?
till all typical theories or proven or disproved? that could take a while…
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Franky finds out that Jewelery Bonney could be the daughter of vegapunk. He only workes for the WG to protect her.
I don't want to see him as being the bad guy who creates weapons. He tried to change the clima on his home island, helped the animals to survive on the island… he seems such a nice guy and Bonney's DF power is to strong or to weak to be in the NW. I'll guess to weak because the BB pirates where easilie able to defeat her, so it might not work on haki users. NW = mostly haki users and no way for her to become a big time pirate, but a chance to escape the WG and find guys to help her rescue her father...
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I predict that luffy will be the last one of the SHs to be shown after the timeskip. That's because he's the most famous SH. I believe that there are other SHs who have more interesting changes than luffy, but hey, they're not luffy
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Bonney's DF power is to strong or to weak to be in the NW. I'll guess to weak because the BB pirates where easilie able to defeat her
It's not that it doesn't effect Haki users, it's that devil fruit powers don't work on Blackbeard specifically. He just "drags it into the darkness"; so she couldn't oldify your babyfy him.
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@Unusual:
It's not that it doesn't effect Haki users, it's that devil fruit powers don't work on Blackbeard specifically. He just "drags it into the darkness"; so she couldn't oldify your babyfy him.
In this case the DF power is to powerfull. She could simply defeat everyone, except BB. Also, why isn't BB's crew effected? She didn't gave herself up, so she wouldn't have undone the age change or would use it to stop their escape?
It would also be pretty tough to fight boa if her kicks and punches would always change parts of you to rock. The CoA has to be some kind of protection.
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In this case the DF power is to powerfull. She could simply defeat everyone, except BB. Also, why isn't BB's crew effected? She didn't gave herself up, so she wouldn't have undone the age change or would use it to stop their escape?
It would also be pretty tough to fight boa if her kicks and punches would always change parts of you to rock. The CoA has to be some kind of protection.
:getlost: Firstly we've seen with almost all powers Oda builds a 'weakness' into them besides Luffys. Bonney's hand were tied up so I'm assuming her ability depends on hand movement. It's most likely the same as BB vs Ace he told his crew to run away/back up and fought her himself. The fact that BB could quake her skull open probably kept her from aging BB's crew.
Although why she didnt Age BB before he touched her is beyond me. BB's power can only work after he has touched the person. So if she just turned him into an Infant before he touched her it should have been good game.
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Franky finds out that Jewelery Bonney could be the daughter of vegapunk. He only workes for the WG to protect her.
I don't want to see him as being the bad guy who creates weapons. He tried to change the clima on his home island, helped the animals to survive on the island… he seems such a nice guyI would love if the WG remains some sort of grey and not pure evil. And Oda seemed to continue this theme, by having Garp staying in the marines even after Aces death or aokiji being supreme admiral rather than akainu.
So Vegapunk should be some of the "good" guys, who is commited to put his genius in the service of justice and order.- The Revolutionary Army: I predict that Luffy's goals and the TRA's Goals might class somewhere in the 'New World'. My thoughts are although Luffy's father doesn't wish him harm I believe that his TRA comes before all else and I believe his interest in Luffy/Plans for Luffy are not at all what Luffy would like. I'm actually quite uncomfortable w/ Nico Robin being alone w/ Dragon. Quite to the point, I don't trust him.
And I approve of this. The Revolutionary Army should have their dark secrets too. Every revolutionary movement has their more radical elements and it would add some drama, if luffy has to stand up against his own father or even sabo.
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My prediction is that Luffy will gather his crew in reverse order of joining. First Hancock, should she join, then Brook, Robin and last Zoro.
:getlost: Firstly we've seen with almost all powers Oda builds a 'weakness' into them besides Luffys. Bonney's hand were tied up so I'm assuming her ability depends on hand movement. It's most likely the same as BB vs Ace he told his crew to run away/back up and fought her himself. The fact that BB could quake her skull open probably kept her from aging BB's crew.
Although why she didnt Age BB before he touched her is beyond me. BB's power can only work after he has touched the person. So if she just turned him into an Infant before he touched her it should have been good game.
I presume the answer to those questions lies in haki and seastone. That colour of armor can probably even defend against the effects of dfs like Bonnies. A rope imbued with haki should be able to hold her and if not there's always seastone. Besides the plain simple truth is anyone in BB's crew could probably kill her before she could even try to use her df.
Uses thread for what its supposed to be used for.
Updated Ideas. New Ideas will be below the 'Edits' Line. And throughout some Ideas have been changed after hearing sound arguments as well as some have been altered according to my 'own' sound argument.All Ideas & Suggestions are appreciated. As is criticism.
! The Straw Hats:
- The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
Luffy: Will have the basics of all 3 types 'Haki'. His fighting style will be refined by being around Rayleigh. He will develop a new 'Gear' that combines both his DF and Haki. (Possibly named 'Over Gear'.) He will also be able to use Rokushiki without using his 'Gears.'
! Zoro: Zoro will develop CoA haki simply to protect his swords from breaking if nothing else. Furthermore after the Time skip. I predict he will be able to just touch Hawkeye. We will learn more about Zoro's 'killing intent'. If it is the same thing as haki or not. Killing intent in most shows I've seen it used in its the same thing as COQ Haki.
! Sanji: His fighting ability will greatly improve fighting all the Newkama's but he will retain his own style. He will develop COO while trying to avoid all the 'transgendered' Newkama's that will be trying to put a dress on him. Whether or not he knows it is haki is debatable. He will also master the Newkama cooking style and develop food to support their body building.
Sanji the reason I say he will learn COO is because I'm pretty sure the Zoro/Sanji will learn both COO & COA. I'm simply predicting that Sanji will Learn COO first.
And trust me, if you had a bunch of Homo martial artist chasing you around you would develop a way to know when they are coming and avoid them. Just saying.
! - The Weaker SHs:
Usopp: Will develop haki similar to the Kuja arrows. (This will probably happen in the first Major Arc of the New World.) I'm also predicting a vast increase and speed along with the ability to target/shoot multiple targets simultaneously. I also predict that he will start setting up 'traps' and planning his battles out strategically. Bombs as well as all his usually repertoire.
! Nami: Will improve her Clima Tact with the Weather Balls. The technology which her Clima Tact was built around originally came from they Sky Islands so I'm fairly sure she will find someone to help her upgrade it. Also she will know about almost all the weathers of the 'New World'. With her upgraded Clima Tact she will be something like a DF user without the DF.
! Franky: Will get Sea Stone implants. They will be retractable. He will also develop a shielding system for the Thousand Sunny. (Someone Suggested he will build cyberpets w/ differnt functions.) I believe that is very likely seeing as all the research about Cyber animals was in Vegapunks Lab. Franky will most likely also find away to increase his speed, possibly thrusters/boosters. (Ironman Style.) :wink
! Chopper: As everyone predicts Chopper will master 'Monster Point'. He will also invent/discover repaid healing medicines to put the SH back in fighting condition faster. I think it will be incomplete though at first and he will probably have to work together with other members of the crew to complete. (Sanji seems like a likely co-conspirator.)
! Robin: Robins DF power seems to be at its limit so I belief she will learn 'Haki' which sort I'm unsure really. Most likely COO. She has always been the 'brains' type. As for other changes to Robin its really hard to predict what she will pick up w/ the revolutionaries.
! Brook: Brook will develop musical attacks that Do Damage/Control Opponents and combine them with his 'Fencing' sword and for some reason I see him creating an 'Illusion' Sword Fighting Style.
! - New SH Crew Member: A lot of people think Hancock, Jimbei or Perona will join SH. I don't think so for a few reasons.
! Hancock: If she joins Amazon Island will no longer be under protect the WG would probably attack it without that protection.
Secondly although Hancock would follow Luffy, don't see the rest of the Kuja Crew being okay with losing her. Not to mention she is in the same boat as Vivi.
! Jimbei: The WG & Humans in general treat Fishmen like shit. Jimbei joining a crew at world with the WG would probably provoke them into action against Fishmen all over the world. And although he is an Enemy of the government he is overall not that important a target.
All in all the both have to much they need to protect.
! Perona: I would definitely rather see Boa join than her and with Moria's disappearing act I would say she will most likely go back to her Captain. In the Thrillerbark Arc she seemed to have great knowledge of 'Bounties' as in who people are and what their bounty is and what their reputation is. That's pretty much what Robin does… Her other skill is limited-medical knowledge. That's Choppers job. I just don't see the crew needing her.Two things.
For one I doubt as many of the SH will master haki as you think.
Especially Usopp has so much where he can improve which doesn't involve haki. Not only can he get physically stronger, he can refine his weapons a lot as well.
As for Robin, I don't think she has taken the potential of her DF to it's limit. There's plenty of equipment she could use which would allow her DF power to get quite a lot more effective. A dozen arms each shooting a gun would be neat.The second thing is about your arguments against Hancock.
All Hancock needs to do is lose a challenge. If there's a new amazon queen and Hancock gets banished the Kuja probably won't be held accountable for her actions. I doubt the Kuja are very high on the priority list of the WG anyways. If they keep a low profile the WG probably won't retaliate against them even without a Shichibukai. - The Monster Trio: will be just Below Admiral level. (I put them at this level because if this is the 'halfway point' I think it will be another 100 or so chapters before they take down an Admiral. But I'm pretty sure they are going to be going Head-to-head with Pacifista and the Vice-Admirals right off the bat.
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i think SABO is dead thats my timeskip prediction that we won't see him in the new world whatsoeverthough robin meetin dragon and being know for being in luffys crew will bring the only chance of sabo and luffy reuniting if he is alive
i also predict Zoro will learn COA to a decent level with COO basic and his colour haki will be Black Haki of the demon/night
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So Vegapunk should be some of the "good" guys, who is commited to put his genius in the service of justice and order.
Vegapunk seems like a textbook evil scientest. He abandoned saving his country by not building a machine to help them out of ice and he likes experimenting on human beings and stuff. He seems like he's more like Doc Hogback in a way where his own ambition comes first and he doesn't care about who he mows over to do it.
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Vegapunk seems like a textbook evil scientest. He abandoned saving his country by not building a machine to help them out of ice and he likes experimenting on human beings and stuff. He seems like he's more like Doc Hogback in a way where his own ambition comes first and he doesn't care about who he mows over to do it.
From what we've been shown, he did his best to thaw his homeland, and they loved him for it (and still do). We have yet to see his motivations for making the Pacifistas and modifying Kuma, who was a willing participant. His character's wide open at this point - we don't really have any information to tell us if he's just plain evil, or misguided but good-hearted, or even innocent but under coercion from the World Government.
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@Mox:
From what we've been shown, he did his best to thaw his homeland, and they loved him for it (and still do). We have yet to see his motivations for making the Pacifistas and modifying Kuma, who was a willing participant. His character's wide open at this point - we don't really have any information to tell us if he's just plain evil, or misguided but good-hearted, or even innocent but under coercion from the World Government.
We don't know why he abandoned his homeland, but I assumed it was to go work for the WG.. and building that thawing machine (which in itself had a Frankenstein motif) would have been something he could accomplish if he wanted (franky will probably finish it).. but I see no evidence of him being a good guy. He might be Franky's final boss too.
He's also actively building weapons of mass destruction to keep the population suppressed and under the boot of tyranny, when he could be making inventions.. cars.. motors.. electricity to help people but instead would rather aid - IMO in the suppression of people's freedoms just so he can have a blank cheque to do his twisted experiments. If the WG was keeping him down I'm sure he'd be smart enough to leave whenever he wanted. But, IMO all he cares about is stroking his ego like a mad scientist by coming up with crazy shit and weapons of war. -
We don't know why he abandoned his homeland, but I assumed it was to go work for the WG.. and building that thawing machine (which in itself had a Frankenstein motif) would have been something he could accomplish if he wanted (franky will probably finish it).. but I see no evidence of him being a good guy. He might be Franky's final boss too.
He's also actively building weapons of mass destruction to keep the population suppressed and under the boot of tyranny, when he could be making inventions.. cars.. motors.. electricity to help people but instead would rather aid - IMO in the suppression of people's freedoms just so he can have a blank cheque to do his twisted experiments. If the WG was keeping him down I'm sure he'd be smart enough to leave whenever he wanted. But, IMO all he cares about is stroking his ego like a mad scientist by coming up with crazy shit and weapons of war.Why would he make cars? This world has more need of boats. A useful transportation project would be more like the Panama Canal, something that allows free and easy travel over previously impassable obstacles. And guess what? He made such an invention by applying seastone to ships' hulls. We can't really judge Vegapunk's character because the World Government gets all of his inventions, so we a) only see the ones with military applications and b) only see how the bad guys want to use them.
Is there any way to know that he's not a savant who can't foresee how his inventions will be twisted, or a Franky-like engineer who just loves to create weapons and cool stuff and is proud of his creations for what they are? The only time we've seen a connection between motive and invention is with the warming device for his island, and that was a good motive. The jury's definitely still out on this guy.
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Plus, he also was doing some cell research for health, so he's not just purely a weapons designer.
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Change? It always does but only in a circular manner. Yep, it's in a revolutionary motion not plain linear.
@ Kishido: wasn't there a time you almost gave up on the manga when Sanji went to the PINK SIDE of the force? or I may be wrong. XD
Please bring me a quote where I did say "I will give up the manga?"
Never said it. Only that I would hate Sanji being turned out to be an Okama and I would have a new fav
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My prediction is that Luffy will gather his crew in reverse order of joining. First Hancock, should she join, then Brook, Robin and last Zoro.
I presume the answer to those questions lies in haki and seastone. That colour of armor can probably even defend against the effects of dfs like Bonnies. A rope imbued with haki should be able to hold her and if not there's always seastone. Besides the plain simple truth is anyone in BB's crew could probably kill her before she could even try to use her df.
Two things.
For one I doubt as many of the SH will master haki as you think.
Especially Usopp has so much where he can improve which doesn't involve haki. Not only can he get physically stronger, he can refine his weapons a lot as well.
As for Robin, I don't think she has taken the potential of her DF to it's limit. There's plenty of equipment she could use which would allow her DF power to get quite a lot more effective. A dozen arms each shooting a gun would be neat.The second thing is about your arguments against Hancock.
All Hancock needs to do is lose a challenge. If there's a new amazon queen and Hancock gets banished the Kuja probably won't be held accountable for her actions. I doubt the Kuja are very high on the priority list of the WG anyways. If they keep a low profile the WG probably won't retaliate against them even without a Shichibukai.A Shichibukai joining the SH crew would be a slap in the face to the government. When they are already in fact short on Shichibukai. (Possible not if the positions are filled in the timeskip.) The WG would lose a lot of face if Hancock joined the SH possibly enough to force them into radical action. They blew the shit out of Ohara for just learning to much of the worlds history… Although some of the WGs top guys are good. People like Akainu and the 5 Stars wouldn't be so forgiving. These guys are bad guys who don't like getting slapped in the face.
Robin could very possibly use multiple guns or something along those lines true but how would that increase her effectiveness against top tier fighters? We've seen that all guns do against people like Zoro/Luffy & Sanji are piss them off. Even the weaker SH are not really effected by guns anymore. Case and point Enies Lobby arc. Now I could see Robin using some guns which would be really cool if she had like 4 of em or something. But without haki Robin is really weak.
Usopp as I've stated above is currently 'fodder' he even admits as much saying that he thought he could just stand by and watch as Luffy became PK. Weapons like bullets/Slingshots don't work on the strong fighters. Without haki he to improve his damage even if he events some new weapons their is a good chance its going to be useless if not combine with haki.
- Nami doesn't need haki simply because she has an ability that will mess up pretty much anyone who isn't a logia. And with Nami's smarts she could probably give a Logia a run for his money.
- Chopper is a DF user and Monster point took out cp9 members like they were a joke and he wasn't even in control of it. + I just thought of a great idea. I think Chopper might be able to combine multiple points. Like Brain Point + Jumping Point. Would be pretty awesome.
- Franky will find some Seastone that will let him fight DF users. Not to mention Franky is pretty damn strong.
- Brook wills fighting style (fencing + music) is pretty good and if he can get his skills to the level Ryuuma had them on thriller bark or better he will be a pretty strong guy.
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Just to add
i think SABO is dead thats my timeskip prediction that we won't see him in the new world whatsoeverSeriously… Dragon saved BlueJam!
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A Shichibukai joining the SH crew would be a slap in the face to the government. When they are already in fact short on Shichibukai. (Possible not if the positions are filled in the timeskip.) The WG would lose a lot of face if Hancock joined the SH possibly enough to force them into radical action. They blew the shit out of Ohara for just learning to much of the worlds history… Although some of the WGs top guys are good. People like Akainu and the 5 Stars wouldn't be so forgiving. These guys are bad guys who don't like getting slapped in the face.
Two years is enough time to fill the remaining spots among the Shichibukai. And if Hancock gets overthrown by the Kuja before she joins Luffy I don't think there'll be much of a problem for the Kuja. Well, it's not as if I was thinking that it's likely Hancock will join, but I don't think the reasons you mentioned are preventing it.
Robin could very possibly use multiple guns or something along those lines true but how would that increase her effectiveness against top tier fighters? We've seen that all guns do against people like Zoro/Luffy & Sanji are piss them off. Even the weaker SH are not really effected by guns anymore. Case and point Enies Lobby arc. Now I could see Robin using some guns which would be really cool if she had like 4 of em or something. But without haki Robin is really weak.
I was more thinking along the lines of special guns. Whether ones with seastone slugs or perhaps a weapon which had ate a df especially if it was one which complemented her own flora flora fruit. Point is there are easily ways she can become stronger which don't involve haki. I don't want haki to become inflationary among the SH.
Usopp as I've stated above is currently 'fodder' he even admits as much saying that he thought he could just stand by and watch as Luffy became PK. Weapons like bullets/Slingshots don't work on the strong fighters. Without haki he to improve his damage even if he events some new weapons their is a good chance its going to be useless if not combine with haki.
I disagree. I think you underestimate what people can do without haki. Especially Usopp. The climatact and the dial technology allowed people with little combat ability to face Cipher Pol. Now he's about to make far better weapons and he is about to finally get some real combat ability without weapons.
Besides it's not as if Usopp would have to face the top of the enemies. Usopp is getting stronger, but I don't think his power relation among the SH is going to change much. The top three will continue to be far stronger than he is and I have my doubts that he will surpass Robin, Franky and Chopper. At most he will be facing the enemy number 4.
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Two years is enough time to fill the remaining spots among the Shichibukai. And if Hancock gets overthrown by the Kuja before she joins Luffy I don't think there'll be much of a problem for the Kuja. Well, it's not as if I was thinking that it's likely Hancock will join, but I don't think the reasons you mentioned are preventing it.
I was more thinking along the lines of special guns. Whether ones with seastone slugs or perhaps a weapon which had ate a df especially if it was one which complemented her own flora flora fruit. Point is there are easily ways she can become stronger which don't involve haki. I don't want haki to become inflationary among the SH.
I disagree. I think you underestimate what people can do without haki. Especially Usopp. The climatact and the dial technology allowed people with little combat ability to face Cipher Pol. Now he's about to make far better weapons and he is about to finally get some real combat ability without weapons.
Besides it's not as if Usopp would have to face the top of the enemies. Usopp is getting stronger, but I don't think his power relation among the SH is going to change much. The top three will continue to be far stronger than he is and I have my doubts that he will surpass Robin, Franky and Chopper. At most he will be facing the enemy number 4.
Robin is the 'smartest' member of the crew and she is going to be surrounded by powerful people for 2 years. Seastone Slugs would be crazy because of how rare seastone is. Haki imbued slugs make more sense Imo. Robin is always the one to figure things out before everyone else even starts to put the pieces together.
Usopp on the other hand you are probably right and Ida will give Usopps creations devastating power.
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I think the first chapter back will show some changes in the world and maybe each members village, except brook, possibly wondering what happen to them in the past two years. With the last page or two being Luffy's exit from the forest.
As for the haki discussion going on in here.
Color of Armament: Luffy, Zoro, Franky, Brook
Color of Observation: Luffy, Nami, Usopp, Sanji
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Brook could really use Color of Armaments haki for New World.
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Am I the only one who thinks Zoro's primary haki will be Color of Observation, while Sanji's will be Color of Armaments (not saying they won't learn other uses).
I mean, many of Zoro's abilities so far have relied on perception. He can sense his swords, or hear the breath of all things.
Meanwhile, Sanji's diable jamble screams of "color of armaments" to me, being so similar to Marigold's abilities.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
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Why can't they (eventually) be good at both?
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Am I the only one who thinks Zoro's primary haki will be Color of Observation, while Sanji's will be Color of Armaments (not saying they won't learn other uses).
I mean, many of Zoro's abilities so far have relied on perception. He can sense his swords, or hear the breath of all things.
Meanwhile, Sanji's diable jamble screams of "color of armaments" to me, being so similar to Marigold's abilities.
No you're not.
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Am I the only one who thinks Zoro's primary haki will be Color of Observation, while Sanji's will be Color of Armaments (not saying they won't learn other uses).
I mean, many of Zoro's abilities so far have relied on perception. He can sense his swords, or hear the breath of all things.
Meanwhile, Sanji's diable jamble screams of "color of armaments" to me, being so similar to Marigold's abilities.
While I agree Zoro's abilities have relied on perception, I think I would see Sanji getting Color of Ovservation. We've seen Sanji do the 'not always fight the big bad, but disappear and weaken the enemy when there not looking' thing.
We saw Mr. Prince where he stayed secret while the rest of the Crew was trapped, and got into Rain Dinners. If I recall correctly(Haven't read Skypiea in a while) He messed with the Maximum, and in Enies Lobby closed the Gates of Justice during the battle with the Marines to suck up the Battleships. Sanji's gotten an undercover man kinda theme, and I think being able to sense where people are, and what their next move is would help him with this.
But at the same time, I think Sanji could use Color of Armaments because…well unless he ends up making a new fighting style that combines his own with the Okama Kenpo(Because I don't think he'd flat out use it), there isn't much room for him to upgrade. I mean, Diable Jamble was really creative, but where can he go from there?
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Why can't they (eventually) be good at both?
From what Rayleigh said everybody has those two types but everyone has one that he's better with. Like words and math, you know both but you're probably better at one of those.
Am I the only one who thinks Zoro's primary haki will be Color of Observation, while Sanji's will be Color of Armaments (not saying they won't learn other uses).
I mean, many of Zoro's abilities so far have relied on perception. He can sense his swords, or hear the breath of all things.
Meanwhile, Sanji's diable jamble screams of "color of armaments" to me, being so similar to Marigold's abilities.
Oda's answer to why Sanji's leg doesn't catch fire when he uses Diable Jamble ("It's because his heart burns even hotter!") sounds like haki to me. A will so strong it activated his haki protection without he even knowing.
And I believe Zoro has a strong Observation too but that can affect his character. How will Zoro be if he's not completly fucked and beaten up in every battle just to show his mainly manhood later?
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3 days until 1524 AOS people! Predict what will happen: Final Round!
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I saw someone bring up an amazing bit of Fridge Brilliance.
Once the time skip happens, the Straw Hats would have been apart two years and one month (at least).
Chapter 513 was released September 2008. So it's been two years and one month since we've seen them together. -
Am I the only one who thinks Zoro's primary haki will be Color of Observation, while Sanji's will be Color of Armaments (not saying they won't learn other uses).
I mean, many of Zoro's abilities so far have relied on perception. He can sense his swords, or hear the breath of all things.
Meanwhile, Sanji's diable jamble screams of "color of armaments" to me, being so similar to Marigold's abilities.
im thinking the same thing u are….
the problem is like other people have mentioned there are reasons they should have or need to be good at the other Color
so either Sanji and Zoro will be an exception and be good at both or its just a wait and see which one they will get lol
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I was thinking sanji needed armnaments to fight aokiji but then i remembered. Diable Jamble > Ice
So then it can be luffy vs akainu (Luffy cant be fire but wii=ll try 2 beat magma :o i want see)
and zoro vs kizaru (dark vs light) + zoro has a certain hate 4 lazers >.>
anyone who doesnt agree with monster trio admiral pair up must cut off their clicking hand
