Felch Discussion Part 4
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@Cyan:
He's already dead.
because of him…....
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yammy will appear. and so will the rest fo the gang, giving Aizen time to escape.
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But will Yammy want Aizen to accept his love before he dies ? :ninja:
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How does Kubo mind work?
This cliffhanger has happened so many times, does he think we are stupid?
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Aparently yes , given he thinks that our dislike of anything he does is a sign of our inferiority at creating manga .
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We keep reading Bleach, so yes, he must think we are stupid.
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@Zik:
Question for everyone: When was Bleach ever a good manga to you? Like at what point in the story? And when it went in this downward spiral?
Hmmm I found bleach to be interesting, now finding something interesting doesn't make it good but that's not my answer.
When Orihime got kid napped is when the story went to shit.
@No:
Pics From BA's Spacecat:
http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc351/th_43953_IMG_1424_122_351lo.JPG
http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc616/th_43995_IMG_1425_122_616lo.JPGI wouldn't be surprised if one day kubo made a 2 page bleach chapter.
How does Kubo mind work?
This cliffhanger has happened so many times, does he think we are stupid?
yes
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ICHIGO SLASHES AIZEN
THIS COULD BE IT, GUYS
HOLY FUCK HE MIGHT HAVE JUST CRITICALLY WOUNDED AIZEN
OH MY GAWOH MAY AHGGGGGGGEOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh… wait... this same cliffhanger has happened 30 times before in this series
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You forgot the witty caption:
DEFEATED BY OVERWHELMING POWER?!
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ICHIGO SLASHES AIZEN
THIS COULD BE IT, GUYS
HOLY FUCK HE MIGHT HAVE JUST CRITICALLY WOUNDED AIZEN
OH MY GAWOH MAY AHGGGGGGGEOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh… wait... this same cliffhanger has happened 30 times before in this series
It's happened thirty times before in this arc.
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"Peanut butter and ham are an sweet salty dinner in october fall afternoon blow up balloons and also rocks plus cars ran oil"
-Kubo's attempt to say "Hello, my name is Tite Kubo and I write a manga series called "Bleach."" in English.
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@Tokoro:
I'd say something about how worthless and stupid this fight is…but then I just realized something: this is exactly like the Frieza battle: an unstoppable villain who can only be taken down by the most powerful character. However...Toriyama actually allowed for characters to show their superiority at times to Frieza and made it seem like a real battle even with a lot of the slower parts, with stuff like Gohan and Piccolo vs. his second form and Vegeta's final stand...heck even when Goku finally got to Frieza, he at least got a good few hits in before mostly (I say mostly because Frieza did at least try towards the end) mopping the floor with him when achieving the Super Saiyan form.
This on the other hand is essentially if Frieza was so uber he could kill anyone in his earlier forms, but evolved anyway to something no one can stop until the hero shows up in Super-Saiyan form. This isn't the climax to an arc, it's just stupid.
How Dare you compare Fuckin Frieza to Butterzen. You make Frieza angry.
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So in Bleach putting chains around your arm make you more powerfull than cross dressing as a pokemon. Man this author confuses me so much.
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He probably felt Ichigo's new powers or saw the different mask when Ichigo first attacked him. I just find it hard to believe that Halibel, Stark and Barragan were stronger than Ulq 2nd transformation (ignoring Barragan's hax death breath) especially in how Ulquiorra's power was illustrated.
I don't buy that. I mean, first off, theres a pic of Ulqs second release when Aizen goes into exposition mode.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-409-page-20.html
Also, he recites a gradual listing of Ichigos achievements, with Ulq being power beyond going into vizard mode, I.e. Ichigonator.
Finally, Aizen left before Ichigo and Ulq fought. The fact that he knew they fought must mean he somehow observed it, and thus would also have seen Ichigos powerup.And on the subject of Ichigo and powerups: At least Goku had bogus "sayajin blood" and trained for years between arcs. Ichigo just has a gauge that goes from 0 to infinity, and is cranked up to match his current opponent by the power of plot alone. yeah, it was commented that his power level was high and his sword was big (before Kubo thought up that captains could regulate sword sizes), and he managed to wound a gillian…but As we all know now, all those feats are piss weak and hardly worthy of admiration from any shinigami ranked seated officer and up.
I mean come on, he has even fights with a seated officer, a VC, a captain, and a captain with bankai in bloody rapid succesion, and goes from a max 10 second mask limit to wearing it without strain with no transition.
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So in Bleach putting chains around your arm make you more powerfull than cross dressing as a pokemon. Man this author confuses me so much.
Don't forget growing your hair out.
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So sexy goth=power?
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Don't forget growing your hair out.
Ohh my Bad. I must remember that by Kubo standars, Mullets are gods ultimate techniques:ninja:
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@Mr.333:
How Dare you compare Fuckin Frieza to Butterzen. You make Frieza angry.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nkWOncHrH5w/R9pXYT2SBJI/AAAAAAAAAqM/fjY_hSp8oes/Angry+Freeza.jpg
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Wasn't offending Frieza, just sort of working out how the Aizen fight compared to the Frieza fight and how it's a 3rd-rate substitute with an even more outlandish villain.
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@The:
I don't buy that. I mean, first off, theres a pic of Ulqs second release when Aizen goes into exposition mode.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-409-page-20.html
Also, he recites a gradual listing of Ichigos achievements, with Ulq being power beyond going into vizard mode, I.e. Ichigonator.
Finally, Aizen left before Ichigo and Ulq fought. The fact that he knew they fought must mean he somehow observed it, and thus would also have seen Ichigos powerup.And on the subject of Ichigo and powerups: At least Goku had bogus "sayajin blood" and trained for years between arcs. Ichigo just has a gauge that goes from 0 to infinity, and is cranked up to match his current opponent by the power of plot alone. yeah, it was commented that his power level was high and his sword was big (before Kubo thought up that captains could regulate sword sizes), and he managed to wound a gillian…but As we all know now, all those feats are piss weak and hardly worthy of admiration from any shinigami ranked seated officer and up.
I mean come on, he has even fights with a seated officer, a VC, a captain, and a captain with bankai in bloody rapid succesion, and goes from a max 10 second mask limit to wearing it without strain with no transition.
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I agree with most of what you said but Aizen saying, "You seem to have somehow gained power" sounds like he's not too certain of what that power is or what it looks like. The picture of Ulquiorra in his 2nd release is most likely just Ichigo's memory seconding as a visual reminder of who Ulquiorra was (to us readers).
! Besides that, Aizen mentioned the Hollow powers with the Grimmajow fight but nothing on Hollow powers with the Ulquiorra fight.
! Just a "power even greater than that". If he saw Ichigo go full Hollow wouldn't he have remarked on his new Hollow powers/transformation? Instead his statement was vague and obscure, merely commenting on Ichigo's power growth. I believe the reason Aizen knew Ichigo battled Ulquiorra is because he planned the fight to happen. He left Ulquiorra behind on purpose.
WARNING: BIG PICTURE
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! It was basically a set up. Aizen knew who would be the first to race towards the tower after he announced he had Orihime captured there.WARNING: BIG PICTURE
! Lastly, the reason Aizen knew Ichigo gained a new power is because you can see the remnants of it spilling off of Aizen's hand.
! He felt it when Ichigo attacked him with the new mask on. Overall, I don't think he knows about Ichigo's full Hollow transformation or even Ulquiorra's 2nd transformation. He may have a strong guess about either one but it's probably nothing he's seen himself.
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I think the problem with absolutes here is that we currently have a chapter where Aizen is being beaten down pretty hard by the person who's life he had 'planned' the entire time. If this was the case, wouldn't it have been foreseen that something like Ichigo's enormous power could come into play in a way that would bite back unexpectedly? Why was Aizen surprised at Ichigo being so powerful, and why is he letting himself get hit so much? It's strange and annoying because Aizen apparently counted on transforming into a butterfly by manipulating someone into killing him one hundred years into the future, but wasn't able to predict the level of strength from someone he'd been keeping tabs on since birth.
It's convoluted and pointless, unless Kubo wants to tango with the 'plan' also including Ichigo killing Aizen. Not as if there wouldn't be precedent for something like that, just go look at the 'shit' thought bubble when his illusion got stabbed by Hitsugaya.
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I think the problem with absolutes here is that we currently have a chapter where Aizen is being beaten down pretty hard by the person who's life he had 'planned' the entire time. If this was the case, wouldn't it have been foreseen that something like Ichigo's enormous power could come into play in a way that would bite back unexpectedly? Why was Aizen surprised at Ichigo being so powerful, and why is he letting himself get hit so much? It's strange and annoying because Aizen apparently counted on transforming into a butterfly by manipulating someone into killing him one hundred years into the future, but wasn't able to predict the level of strength from someone he'd been keeping tabs on since birth.
It's convoluted and pointless, unless Kubo wants to tango with the 'plan' also including Ichigo killing Aizen. Not as if there wouldn't be precedent for something like that, just go look at the 'shit' thought bubble when his illusion got stabbed by Hitsugaya.
Well, you know what they say; "Nobody's Perfect". There was finally a flaw in Aizen's planning…or that's what he wants us to think. I hope it doesn't come to Aizen dying and that being apart of his plan too. That'd just make things worse, a lot worse.
Is it stupid that now of all times Aizen's plans start to crumble and especially on his most observed subject (Ichigo)? Yes. Does it make sense that a villain's plans start to fall apart near the end when he has all the confidence in the world and he constantly gives his enemies chances? Yes. I also think it's a bit of a breather to finally see a kink in Aizen's planning. That's if this isn't all apart of his plan of course.
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http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/23917951/1
I felt like there was more text than usual.
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Bleach sucks so bad. SOOOOO BAAAAAAAD.
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@ultimateclima:
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/23917951/1
I felt like there was more text than usual.
There was. In exchange, we got a ridiculous amount of pages used up for every action. Not to say I wasn't expecting it with what the spoilers gave us.
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@ultimateclima:
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/23917951/1
I felt like there was more text than usual.
Aizen is feeling threatened, so he overcompensates by talking.
Besides half of the chapter was the kido spell.
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I can't wait for Aizen to pull out the 'Just as i planned' card… sigh
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You know something? I actually liked this chapter more than the last 10 Deicides.
It's not saying much, and it's probably due to Aizen using them big words.
It still sucks, but I actually took my time reading it.
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Since when you where under the impression that it was you who blew up that montain Aizen?
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awful chapter…seriously...
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All I can think of after reading this chapter is this:
If Kubo is serious about keeping Bleach going after how ridiculous his power scaling has become, he's going to have to come up with some bullcrap excuse as to how to do so.
As for the chapter: we get it: hubris is Aizen's downfall…can he just die now so we can end this stupid arc?
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Fuck, this was boring.
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@Tokoro:
As for the chapter: we get it: hubris is Aizen's downfall…can he just die now so we can end this stupid arc?
I can't see Aizen's death (or re-death, he is a Shinigami) being anything but anti-climatic.
That is if Kubo ever kills him.
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It still sucks, but I actually took my time reading it.
Well, there's definitely a good reason for that.
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Oh, and before I forget.
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Wait a minute does this mean there is a form above Bankai where your right arm fuses with your sword?
That is what I got from this chapter.
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Upside: Aizen's apparently entered the breakdown phase of being a physical god (Cars did it better though), so he finally might shut up for a bit.
Downside: Ichigo's got the trolling mantel now.
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UGH, What's. . . happening . . . to me? This chapter . . . was so bad . . . Yet . . . Aizen's words are so powerful . . . that it . . . makes me want to . . .
NOMINATE HIM FOR CONGRESS!!!
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@Cyan:
Downside: Ichigo's got the trolling mantel now.
At least Aizen's trolling was somewhat amusing (and incredibly ridiculous),
Ichigo "trolling"…..well it's Ichigo.
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Yeah Ichigo is trying to pull a Aizen on Aizen.
Its weird as fuck.
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THE CREST OF TURBIDITY, SEEPING OUT
AN INSOLENT VESSEL OF MADNESS
BOILING UP, DENYING, NUMBNESS, BLINKING, OBSTRUCTING SLUMBER
THE STEEL PRINCESS WHO CREEPS
THE MUD DOLL EVER DISENTEGRATINGuhhh
what the fuck does any of that shit meanWHAT
THE
FUCK
IS
AIZEN
TALKING A
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So, Ichigo's "trade-off" is he has no reiatsu? Where exactly is the downside for this? It's not like he ever used it for anything else anyway.
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@Tokoro:
All I can think of after reading this chapter is this:
If Kubo is serious about keeping Bleach going after how ridiculous his power scaling has become, he's going to have to come up with some bullcrap excuse as to how to do so.
Ya, seriously Ichigo's like gonna become the new Captain Commander like.. hands down
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THE STEEL PRINCESS WHO CREEPS
THE MUD DOLL EVER DISENTEGRATINGI would assume the 'steel princess' would be an iron maiden, and the 'mud doll' a human being, which would fit with the nature of the spell that might have been used if Kubo didn't feel like glorifying Ichigo.
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oh my god ichigo Trolled Aizen?
I'm so confused! I don't know if i liked this chapter or not. D: SOMEONE HELP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Its all according to Aizen's…..I mean Ichigo's........I mean............ugh I just don't know.
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Maybe just for the heck of it, Kubo wanted one to act like the other.
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Ichigo: "When were you under the impression that I was under the impression that someone said the heart went from 1 to 10 in the palm of my hand?"
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Given Aizen's thought monologue, I retract the notion that he plans on Ichigo killing him.
I get the feeling someone's gonna die pretty soon, and it's not the tall guy with dark clothes, messy hair, droopy face, and chains on his body.
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So, Ichigo's "trade-off" is he has no reiatsu? Where exactly is the downside for this? It's not like he ever used it for anything else anyway.
I feel like I can guarantee this:
! Uses Ultimate Getsuga Tenshō. Aizen is in shock
Ichigo: Since when were you under the illusion I no longer had reiatsu? -
Next chapter we discover that everything since SS has been a ilusion done by Ichigo when Aizen deicides to scream:
GUYS!!!! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING???