Glad I'm not the only one wondering this.
Probably the day the newspaper was spread..seems like the most logical thing for me.
Glad I'm not the only one wondering this.
Probably the day the newspaper was spread..seems like the most logical thing for me.
2 questions
1. Where was it said tat they would meet in 3 days… I know there was something but I forgot it
2. From which day on is this 2 years counting
It was back on Shambody
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2618-10/one-piece/chapter-511.html
So it's 2 yrs from their supposed meeting day
I'm surprised how many people didn't like zoro with mihawk. I actually said he would never do that, i laughed really hard on the first page. but i think it's suiting. it's just proving how much he is willing to give up for luffy. his life is one thing, but for someone like zoro, giving up his pride must have been soo much harder. and that's what mihawk saw and that's why he's training him.
What are these levels you speak of? I see no levels.:wassat:
If ambition is a power than it would be logical if the amount of it differ from OPhuman to OPhuman. No?
I think "Douriki" showed what oda thinks of power levels.
Wowzer I can't believe the "not 3days but 2 years" was actually right - lol. Still does seem a rather long time skip to me, especially considering most of the supernovas are already in the new world already.
I think "Douriki" showed what oda thinks of power levels.
Maybe this discussion should be dropped because it seems like everyone has a different grasp of what Oda intends to show us. To me ambition is still very vague and hasn't cleared many questions raised in the numerous haki threads. Aiming for an universal definition of what it is, if it's a power with levels or not might not be the best thing to do due to lack of a solid definition of the whole concept…
Maybe this discussion should be dropped because it seems like everyone has a different grasp of what Oda intends to show us. To me ambition is still very vague and hasn't cleared many questions raised in the numerous haki threads. Aiming for an universal definition of what it is, if it's a power with levels or not might not be the best thing to do due to lack of a solid definition of the whole concept…
It reminds me a bit of nen, where people are predisposed towards a certain area but can train everything(or both in this case).
I'm very happy to see that conquerers ambition has been seperated and confirmed as solely being the user's own will too.
It's already been said earlier how the SHs most probably know the exact day.
The significance of the crossed out "3D" is that it goes back to the day when the SHs were sent away. By having "2Y" under it most likely explains they should meet exactly 2 years from that day.
I Shall Miss On Piece For The Month It Is Gone…
We still have the anime... right?
Shame The Mentalist comes back for Season 3 around the 23rd, so I cant use that to occupy myself with ;A;
oh well... best get back into the swing of school.
Final Year ;A; DREAD
When I saw Mihawk laugh, and Zoro bow his head..wow….Just.......My favorite two characters showwing attitudes I never thought I would see....Now the question is simple, which crew member will have long hair after the time skip? There is ALWAYS someone whose hair grows long after a time skip :) I say girly Sanji... :D
Like this?
! Brook hasn't aged a bit
Like this?
! http://a.imageshack.us/img823/3048/samplef2c82847a94a026de.jpg Brook hasn't aged a bit
Most amazing thing i have seen in years!:wub:
A 2 years time skip is great. I think SHs will be more "mature" rather a bunch of kids as some people though of them. About haki it would be lame if everyone has haki know. I would prefer Zoro,Luffy and Usopp learning haki as they are the "fighters" in the crew. Also nice pic @strawcat
Like this?
! http://a.imageshack.us/img823/3048/samplef2c82847a94a026de.jpg Brook hasn't aged a bit
Usopp has no dreadlocks.
Not interested.
Like this?
! http://a.imageshack.us/img823/3048/samplef2c82847a94a026de.jpg Brook hasn't aged a bit
Lol looks like they have all aged over 10 years not 2 :P Nami looks about 30 lal
Lol looks like they have all aged over 10 years not 2 :P Nami looks about 30 lal
18 is the prime for women. After that, it's all downhill.
@Aiv:
A 2 years time skip is great. I think SHs will be more "mature" rather a bunch of kids as some people though of them. About haki it would be lame if everyone has haki know. I would prefer Zoro,Luffy and Usopp learning haki as they are the "fighters" in the crew. Also nice pic @strawcat
Usopp is more of a 'fighter' then Sanji?
As Rayleigh puts it, "Haki is a power that lies dormant in all the world's creatures… 'presence,' 'fighting spirit,' and 'intimidation.'" Let's see if I got this right...
Everybody has presence, has fighting spirit, and to some extent is intimidating, but not all can use it in a "physical" sense. Haki isn't what's within, it's not the willpower itself but the manifestation of the willpower. Basically, haki is the ability to show off your presence to the world.
Now, haki can be separated into two categories: the color of observation and the color of armaments. The color of observations is mantra, while the color of armaments is the one which allows the user to deflect attacks and hurt intangible fruit users.
The color of the conqueror is what I believe to be the king's haki, or at least the main difference between regular and king's. You aren't exactly born with it like many believe, you actually earn it. In other words, you awaken it somehow by being a badass, famous, powerful guy. Everybody can use haki, but it is only when you show the signs of a conqueror will you be able to say that you have king's haki.
i see coby being a admiral after the jump
Maybe not an admiral, but sure a higher position then before^^
Also we have to see who`re now the new shichibukais and if Aokiji is doing good as the new fleet admiral:happy:
Ussop is not a fighter, he's a sniper. He should not have to have physical contact with his foes. As for the Haki stuff, I don't think Heracles'n knows of this. Also, Ussop will gain a cool ability using the pop green plants on the boin archipelago so maybe he doesn't need to have Haki or maybe later on in the story. (I believe Shanks didn't know how to use Haki yet as an apprentice of Roger but learned it afterwards)
Chopper doesn't have anyone that is even able to teach him anything but perhaps, since the weapons were emphasized, he will have some kind of weapon (don't know if I would want this though?)and of course better cures and improved fighting abilities (My hopes are set on monster chopper "controlled version"),
Nami is on a floating island with a bunch of weaklings that study weather so she won't learn any Haki at all but will have new weather based techniques and that weather ball thing will give her a huge boost in fighting capabilities.
Robin is with Dragon and might train with some revolutionary leader or perhaps Dragon himself or go on mission in which she gets stronger and get knowledge of haki and now how it works, perhaps even get the gist of it a bit but my guess is she won't master it.
Zoro is with mihawk and I think we all believe that he can use it and actually imbeds his sword with "color of armor haki" so he'll learn, also, Rayleigh was a first mate and he knew so at least Zoro should learn.
Sanji will have to fight 99 okama kenpo masters and I presume they and at least Ivankov know Haki so he might learn as well in addition to attack cuisine and some new techniques.
Brooke is with the long-arm tribe and I don't think there is anyone there that'll teach him Haki, what he will learn however is completely unknown to me except for 40 degrees (?!?).
Franky is all alone except for the old man and the kid so he will use Vegapunks inventions to upgrade himself but learning Haki? I think not. If Luffy needs Rayleigh and needs 2 years to learn the basics than Franky can not learn it on his own within those 2 years.
Going off topic here. I suddenly wondered what would've happened if Kubo were assigned to do this chapter (the story still comes from Oda though). And here's what I got
Pg 1-2 = 2 pages spread of Kuraigana Island
Pg 3-4 = 2 pages spread of Zoro bowing his head to mihawk
pg 5 = half page to show Mihawk's close-up face and another half showing Zoro's face
pg 6-7 = conversations take place
pg 8 = a full page of Zoro saying "to overcome you!" (i skipped the baboon part, cause I think Kubo will skip that one too)
pg 9 = half page of Mihawk's reaction, and his answer
pg 10-11 = Zoro and Perona explaining the tattoo message
pg 12-13 = 2 page spread of the SH and that "Two years later. At Shabondy Archipelago"
pg 14-15 = Jimbei leaving, Luffy and Rayleigh arrived in the island of Rusukaina (I suspect Kubo will leave Hancock out as well)
pg 16-17 = 2 pages spread of Luffy and the island of Rusukaina
pg 18 = Rayleigh ends the chapter by saying "The power of Haki"
And thats what I got, any of you guys care to make your own version?
Btw does this belong here or the Felch thread anyway?? Oh well, as a certain old man once said "Well, whatever"
Nah a Kubo chapter would've only got up to Zoro revealing he defeated the baboons. Then the next chapter would be a flashback showing Zoro fighting the baboons.
Gear 4 is coming….
And ussop learning haki would be deadly, he is afterall talented in sharpshooting.
thanks zach…it will be difficult to wait..4 weeks seems to me the eternity...What a suspence!!!! O_o
by the way:chapter very interesting...Rufy will learn to use "haki" at last...COOOL!!! This pause serves us to perceive the time skip...when we'll review them they'll be so much strong!!!!...mmm...I CAN'T WAIIIIIT!!!! :D
If Luffy doesn't have any facial hair after this, I'm going to be pissed.
Yeah Gear 4 is coming with haki included. Since Luffy has become cooler and hipper in the 2 years. He's going call Haki infused Gear 4….........h4ki.
is it October now? the wait will kill me.. :/
I'm very happy to see that conquerers ambition has been seperated and confirmed as solely being the user's own will too.
That again proves that only those with a strong mind and absolute believe in their actions can use it.
The more you believe in hard situation in yourself the more the power will help you.
Rly good for a comeback in a fight.
Also Luffy trusting his crewmates blind will sure power up that Haki^^
Also iam wondering a bit obout Colour of Observation.
When two guys use it in a fight at the same time they should normally be able to predict every move from their opponent and so never be able to hit the enemy nor getting punched^^
He's going call Haki infused Gear 4….........h4ki.
You must be a genius.
@Don:
Also iam wondering a bit obout Colour of Observation.
When two guys use it in a fight at the same time they should normally be able to predict every move from their opponent and so never be able to hit the enemy nor getting punched^^
Remember Enel? He predicted Luffy's last (IIRC) attack but was unable to dodge nor block nor counter because it was too fast.
@Nia:
If Luffy doesn't have any facial hair after this, I'm going to be pissed.
If Luffy has any facial hair after this, I will be very pissed.
Luffy with a mustache or beard? meh.
hope he`ll just look like Shanks.
That was awesome! But… argh... we'll get the next chapter when september ends... :sad:
The Cover was just epic! Whitebeard and Roger, the last remnants of the old era! Just epic!
2 years... that's really long, but I'm already excited to see what happened to the world during this time! And the change of the stawhats!
Angry!Hancock grabbed Rayleighs nose, that scene was hilarious!
And finally a Haki explenation. Thanx, Oda!
I never doubted Mantra would be not the same as Haki, yay, I was right! XD
The last panel with Luffy's strawhat was awesome, somehow :3
Well... 4 weeks without One Piece, here we come! :getlost:
That was awesome! But… argh... we'll get the next chapter when september ends... :sad:
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Well... 4 weeks without One Piece, here we come! :getlost:
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It just suddenly starts playing in my mind
When i mean ussop is a fighter its because all the other have some sort of job on a ship such as musician/navigator/cook. The fighters of the ship supposed to be zoro/luffy/ussop. I dont mean the others arent its just luffy got them for their occupation. Again i dont mean they cant fight or are stronger than zoro or ussop. Also after these 2 years i wanna see someone getting a major change in appearance like ussop. A more badass look.
Usopp is the one who invents stuff for the crew (like the Clima-Takt)
and is also the cannoneer of the crew.
(dont forget he
s also the vice capt`n:happy:)
@ Ponx:
Yeah, I thought about that song the whole time! XD
To bad, it fits perferctly <.<
Franky better get cola nukes or something.
Four….weeks? No One piece...for an month? Only solitude I can find anymore is in madness…
Well chapter itself was very nice and informative and though it was speculated and even becoming ever more clear that we would have an time skip at One Piece it still shocked that we will see a 2 year jump, but this is also very exciting because time jump of this scale will change much of Strawhats and world itself that is going through cataclysm after Whitebeards death.
Well if I can wait for Berserk then perhaps I can wait for One Piece... or I will break down after two weeks. But cant be mad either because Oda really deserves to have some break, guy have been writing almost non stop for over 10 years...
Nah a Kubo chapter would've only got up to Zoro revealing he defeated the baboons. Then the next chapter would be a flashback showing Zoro fighting the baboons.
lmfao, so fucking true.
and the next 12 chapters would be Mihawk training Zoro.
You know what'd be sad? If for the preview, at the end of this chapter, for 598 said, "Next time: T.S."
But after the one month break, instead of us finding out that it'd mean "time skip", it'd mean "training saga." XD
Just saying. Not speculating.
If Rayleigh - being the right arm of Roger - does have king haki, then at least Zoro should have it. Also I would like to see the other SH characters (after the 3 monster ones) developing a high level of a specific haki "colour" (for example the defensive one is almost of no use to Usopp but the one allowing to hit the "substance" of logias and all would be great for him)…
Really liked getting a clear explanation of haki, and also finding out the length of the time skip… : ( 2 years is so looooooooooooong!!!
Ah well.. looking forward to new issues after sniff 4 whole weeks D:
do you guys think that the color of the conqueror is the "Will of D"?
If Rayleigh - being the right arm of Roger - does have king haki, then at least Zoro should have it. Also I would like to see the other SH characters (after the 3 monster ones) developing a high level of a specific haki "colour" (for example the defensive one is almost of no use to Usopp but the one allowing to hit the "substance" of logias and all would be great for him)…
@AMS:
do you guys think that the color of the conqueror is the "Will of D"?
Unless Hancock is Boa D. Hancock without us knowing, no..
After thinking it over, that means that Coby has King's Ambition as well :ermm: .
And Mihawk training Zoro is king of weird. Kind of reminds me of Kenshin and Hiko from RuroKen.
@AMS:
do you guys think that the color of the conqueror is the "Will of D"?
Interesting thought! I think there may end up being some relation, but I don't think they are one and the same.
I still don't understand all of the clouds when Whitebeard and Shanks crossed swords though. I definitely think there are still some surprises regarding the Haki of the Conqueror left.
So, as we all know Luffy has never been the tanking type. He's always dodged or blocked what attacks he could. His fighting style, coupled with his Observer Haki moment against Mihawk, I'm pretty sure that Luffy's predilection is first to King's, then Observer, then Armor.
King's was the first to be displayed, and the one he's experienced the most and manifests most naturally. He's unnatural charisma also adds to that. Then came Observer Haki, the reason he still has his arm after fighting Mihawk. We have never seen evidence of Armor Haki manifesting for Luffy, and I think that it would fit in nicely with the story that this is the one that he has the most trouble with.
Why? There should still be ample amount of room for growth after the timeskip, and I think that taking on Logias should always be a challenge to Luffy, not an impossible one anymore, but it should still be challenging and fun for us readers that he encounters some difficulty in performing with Armor Haki. It would add excitement and a sense of triumph when he finally settles into his Busou-Shoku. It would be the same feeling of excitement we got when Zoro figured out how to cut steel, a kind of "I get it now" moment that we have never seen with Luffy, who only ostensibly powered up with the gears.
Am I the only one surprised that luffy called Smoker and Aokiji as logia users he would be able to hit after learning Haki? I thought he would say Akainu, cause he killed Ace and all that..or does he simply not know Akainu is logia? Which I would find strange
Ah well.