@Sea:
LOL. Do you know what is sarcasm?
Kurogen was sarcastic, but I understand why GrimJackal say that. In this forum, you never know if someone is sacarstic or terribly stupid especially when the person join in August 2010.
@Sea:
LOL. Do you know what is sarcasm?
Kurogen was sarcastic, but I understand why GrimJackal say that. In this forum, you never know if someone is sacarstic or terribly stupid especially when the person join in August 2010.
Arlong killed Bellemere, surely Nami wouldn't say something about it right?
After seeing al these different opinions of different OP characters joining I decided to give my ideas of al these characters. I'll divide it in 2 parts characters luffy knows/cares about and characters he doesn't know/doesn't care about. I'm also leaving out the obvious characters like mr.3 (Luffy likes him, who doesn't xD ) who has joined Buggy.
Characters Luffy doesn't know/care about.
-Sabo : we just don't know enough about him, hell, he's barely given any screentime.(Also, i know Luffy cares about him, but luffy thinks he's dead).
-Perona : she just doesn't fit with the SH's, i think she'll stay with Mihawk, I can just imagine it : mihawk sitting on his one man boat and perona flying around him and annoying him.
-Bonney: same story as Sabo, we don't know enough about her yet. I wouldn't mind her joining the SH's but right now I just don't see her joining. She'll join if Oda wants her to join.
-Vegapunk: we don't know anything about him yet besides some of his inventions, but we do know that he was a kind person when he lived on that island where Franky is (forgot the name of the island). But i imagine him being a goofy character using inventions in battle. His dream could be returning to the island wher he used to live with rarematerials/money to finish that invention that would heath up the island, he'll collect some of these materials in the new world and help Luffy become Pirate King because Luffy freed him from the WG. This whole theory relies on Vegapunk working for the WG aginst his will. But he hasn't been properly introduced yet so we can only make assumptions/theories about him.
-Arlong : he's evil, Luffy doesn't like him. Don't see it happening.
Characters luffy cares about.
-Jinbei : he's a cool guy, and I think the SH's will have a fishman in the near future but i'm quite sure it won't be Jinbei (it'll probably be a fishman from the FI arc, which will happen). Besides, he would break the holy SH powerhouse trio.
-Mr2. Bentham: Luffy really likes him, so do Ussop and Chopper and so do I xD. He saved the SH's once and Luffy a couple of times (3 times i believe, dunno). I'm also quite sure that Luffy would want him in his crew. He wouldn't break the holy powerhouse trio while still being a great fighter. I also think that he'll escape on his own (which is possible with his power i guess) or that Luffy breaks him out. The only problem I have with him is that i just can't figure out what his dream could be :/.He also fits in the previous boss/sub-boss category. We'll just have to wait for that :p.
-Boa Hancock: I don't think she'll join, but I wouldn't mind it. She'd actually fit with the SH's, because of her personality (looking down upon others, being in love with Luffy etc…) and she'll make for some hilarious moments with the other SH's especially Sanji and Nami/Robin. Her chances of joining have actually risen: her dream could be marrying Luffy. Her job could be the Captain's lover... calling that a job sounds kinda weird I know xD. And she hasn't got any obligations anymore besides wouldn't she die of love sickness or something if she doesn't stay with Luffy? Also, she wouldn't break the SH powerhouse trio, because i doubt that she'll be as strong as Luffy/Zoro/Sanji after their power-ups. She also kinda fits in the previous boss/sub-boss category.
So yeah, i think 2 more people will join, one of them will be a character that hasn't been introduced yet (or Sabo/vegapunk they haven't been introduced in the current timeline yet). The other person COULD be Mr.2/Boa, or also a character that hasn't been introduced yet. Only time will tell tho.
Please don't flame on me >.<, i do want to hear your opinions (especially on my Vegapunk/Boa ideas).
aside from providing a way to permanently take Perona out of the running for this topic.
As previously said.
Perona sama has symbolically already left Moria's crew when she….left Moria's crew on Thriller Bark.
Besides Oda took great care in adding a scene in which Perona read about Moria's death.
As far as the world is concerned Moria's dead and since powerful elements in the WG wants him dead he's going to have to lay low for a while.
After spending several months maybe as long as as 2 years with Zoro alone on an island it is more than likely that Perona's character will change for the better.
Perona joining definitely does not hinge on Moria's survival as you will find out next chapter or the one after that.
Super Connard do you have a creepy attachment to a children's comic book character.
My only attachment is to logic.
! And to lolis :wub:
Super Connard do you realize Perona doesn't exist in reality.
Neither does One Piece.
Close down this forum. :ermm:
Retsudo do you do this on regular basis or are you just out of candy?
After seeing al these different opinions of different OP characters joining I decided to give my ideas of al these characters.
Why does every lurker or new member decide to do this?
@Zik:
Why does every lurker or new member decide to do this?
As an answer to the rhetorical question: they think that it'll give them some credibility in the eyes of the vast community and thus bolsters their morale a bit.
It's quite amusing to watch for some time actually, but after you've seen three hundred of those, it starts to get on one's nerves, now doesn't it?
I have yet to hear what former Boss is more likely to jointhan Perona sama.
I have yet to hear what former Boss is more likely to jointhan Perona sama.
Perona was a boss?
I thought she qualified as a miniboss bordering on regular mook.
I have yet to hear what former Boss is more likely to jointhan Perona sama.
Alvida, Morgan, Buggy and his 2 subordinates, Crow and his 2 subordinates, Krieg, Gin, Arlong and his subordinates, Mr6, miss Mother's day, Mr5, Miss Valentine, Mr4, miss merry Christmas, Mr 3, miss goldenweek, Bon Chan, Mister 1, miss doublefinger, Croc, Bellamy, Sarkis, Enel and his 4 subordinates, Foxy and his subordinates, CP9, Moria, Perona, Absalom, Hogback, Duval, Pacifista, Sentomaru, Kizaru, Sandersonia, Marigold, Hannyabal, Magellan.
In other words. Perona has already joined.
I have yet to hear what former Boss is more likely to join than Perona sama.
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'Kako no bosu kyara' (Lit. '…a boss character from the past...') It's a purposely vague statement which he's a master of.
Nothing about them actually going 'together'. In this sense it could end the same as with Vivi. It's, as usual, a vague as shit statement that he no doubt intended to be as such.
There's the thing. Buggy's been with Luffy. Galdino's been with Luffy. Bentham's been with Luffy. Croc's been with Luffy. etc.
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I linked you to the discussion about this yesterday. Did you read it? This topic isn't really worth discussing.
Alvida, Morgan, Buggy and his 2 subordinates, Crow and his 2 subordinates, Krieg, Gin, Arlong and his subordinates, Mr6, miss Mother's day, Mr5, Miss Valentine, Mr4, miss merry Christmas, Mr 3, miss goldenweek, Bon Chan, Mister 1, miss doublefinger, Croc, Bellamy, Sarkis, Enel and his 4 subordinates, Foxy and his subordinates, CP9, Moria, Perona, Absalom, Hogback, Duval, Pacifista, Sentomaru, Kizaru, Sandersonia, Marigold, Hannyabal, Magellan.
In other words. Perona has already joined.
Several mistakes in your post: it's Kuro, not "Crow", they never met Mr. 6, and Perona's never going to join for reasons that have been stated hundreds of times.
Perona was a boss?
If Perona is a boss, then Hachi counts as one too. And he fits with the "travel with but not join" thing.
After spending several months maybe as long as as 2 years with Zoro alone on an island it is more than likely that Perona's character will change for the better.
If Oda wanted to show Perona having any depth of personality, he should have shown her reacting seriously to Moria's death. After all, he gave her a great life and she lived with him for ten years, if nothing else. Instead, he just made a joke about about her selfishness (seriously, she demands service and cocoa in the middle of "crying.") There's no foundation for a change in heart.
-Sabo : we just don't know enough about him, hell, he's barely given any screentime.
We know that he has a specific dream of writing a book about his adventures, which had no relevance in the flashback and serves no purpose if he's a revolutionary. Unless someone can give me another logical explanation for including that really random panel, I'm pretty sure he'll join sometime in the far-off future.
f bonney joins I don't see what use she would be for the crew except being fairly strong. But what the strawhats do need is a helmsmen, Or in my opinion a black helmswomen so the crew has some color in there. Brook doesn't count, he a bleach white skeleton, and ussop is like puerto rican or something
f bonney joins I don't see what use she would be for the crew except being fairly strong. But what the strawhats do need is a helmsmen, Or in my opinion a black helmswomen so the crew has some color in there. Brook doesn't count, he a bleach white skeleton, and ussop is like puerto rican or something
… what? Puerto Rican? One Piece's world isn't ours, you know. Their definition of "race" seems to be humans vs. fishman, etc. (Definitely agree about the helmsman and Bonney having no role, though.)
f bonney joins I don't see what use she would be for the crew except being fairly strong. But what the strawhats do need is a helmsmen, Or in my opinion a black helmswomen so the crew has some color in there. Brook doesn't count, he a bleach white skeleton, and ussop is like puerto rican or something
One Piece is all about racial harmony and political correctness, innit?
… what? Puerto Rican? One Piece's world isn't ours, you know. Their definition of "race" seems to be humans vs. fishman, etc. (Definitely agree about the helmsman and Bonney having no role, though.)
Fine sir, but no one really gives a crap. I simply want more good guys and villains who are of a color that is peach
Just to throw this in to have Boa a bit of extra weight. She apparently already had a great part of her design ready in 1999. Im not saying this should be heavily considered but just a little extra to throw on the pile.
Just to throw this in to have Boa a bit of extra weight. She apparently already had a great part of her design ready in 1999. Im not saying this should be heavily considered but just a little extra to throw on the pile.
where did you hear that?
Just to throw this in to have Boa a bit of extra weight. She apparently already had a great part of her design ready in 1999. Im not saying this should be heavily considered but just a little extra to throw on the pile.
And Jimbei was actually mentioned around the same time. Point?
Well the concept of the 7 Warlords had already been introduced, so it's normal that Oda did some early sketchs of them…
Just to throw this in to have Boa a bit of extra weight. She apparently already had a great part of her design ready in 1999. Im not saying this should be heavily considered but just a little extra to throw on the pile.
And there were three other characters for that issue cover that we saw the backs of that haven't appeared yet. Are you saying they'll be even MORE important and built up when they finally appear?
Also, Jimbei was actually mentioned in the story at that point, not just an unfinished , so the readers were meant to expect him as early as that.
Fine sir, but no one really gives a crap. I simply want more good guys and villains who are of a color that is peach
Of a color other than peach
f bonney joins I don't see what use she would be for the crew except being fairly strong. But what the strawhats do need is a helmsmen, Or in my opinion a black helmswomen so the crew has some color in there. Brook doesn't count, he a bleach white skeleton, and ussop is like puerto rican or something
Wow.
I mean I use to joke about all the SHs being black and the crew needing a token black guy but you're serious.
That's sad.
Will the can of worms that is the Usopp = Black discussion be opened again?
You know what they say about black guys. They all have really big…noses.
Hancock's earliest seen design appeared initially on the front cover of a 1999 issue of Shonen Jump, and later was reprinted in Color Walk 2. When the Straw Hats entered the Grand Line, Oda was asked by his editing department to draw villains that would appear from there on. He agreed to and drew their backs for the Shonen Jump cover. While some parts of Hancock's have definitely changed since then, Oda fully intended at the time for the design to be her.
I merely put a reference point i never said it was to be a main argument. Also seeing that it is very possible that luffy will spend coming months/years with her may lead to a possibility of including her with the SHs. And naturally anyone being created that early will provide a key point in storyline.
What I just like to see my race represented is all.
If Oda wanted to show Perona having any depth of personality, he should have shown her reacting seriously to Moria's death. After all, he gave her a great life and she lived with him for ten years, if nothing else. Instead, he just made a joke about about her selfishness (seriously, she demands service and cocoa in the middle of "crying.") There's no foundation for a change in heart.
Perona did show some genuine concern about Moria but you can't expect the spoiled brat aspect of her personality to disappear overnight.
No foundation for a change of heart ?
A few weeks ago Perona was capturing Pirates at Moria's behest. Now she's helping an injured Pirate concerned about his friends read a newspaper. And yes she's complaining about it. This aspect of her personality will not disappear overnight if ever.
It wouldn't be the Perona we all love if she didn't complain anymore. :wub:
Fine sir, but no one really gives a crap.
You realize you're just begging for this to be boomeranged back to you, right?
Perona did show some genuine concern about Moria but you can't expect the spoiled brat aspect of her personality to disappear overnight.
No foundation for a change of heart ?
A few weeks ago Perona was capturing Pirates at Moria's behest. Now she's helping an injured Pirate concerned about his friends read a newspaper. And yes she's complaining about it. This aspect of her personality will not disappear overnight if ever.
It wouldn't be the Perona we all love if she didn't complain anymore. :wub:
Don't do drugs .
What I just like to see my race represented is all.
It's a Japanese comic book.
You're acting like it's American.
Well it looks like that since we are getting a timeskip and everyone will power up. I don't think the "Hancock and Jinbei are too powerful" argument won't hold much merit anymore.
What I just like to see my race represented is all.
Plenty humans in One Piece. Walk out the cave man.
Well it looks like that since we are getting a timeskip and everyone will power up. I don't think the "Hancock and Jinbei are too powerful" argument won't hold much merit anymore.
Hancock, ok. But Jinbei still has the experience and to add to it, he's part of the former generation, as confirmed by Rayleigh.
Well it looks like that since we are getting a timeskip and everyone will power up. I don't think the "Hancock and Jinbei are too powerful" argument won't hold much merit anymore.
Actually it's the death knell for Hamock and Jimbei.
The strawhat power ups mean that the strawhats won't need already powerful people like Hamock and Jimbei.
The pro Hamock and Jimbei's arguments used to be something like "the strawhats will be too weak for the New World so they need powerful people like Hamock and Jimbei".
Strawhat powerups mean that it's not the case anymore. They'll do the jobs themselves. They don't need legends like Jimbei who already know the NW to do it for them.
The pro Hamock and Jimbei's arguments used to be something like "the strawhats will be too weak for the New World so they need powerful people like Hamock and Jimbei".
Strawhat powerups mean that it's not the case anymore. They'll do the jobs themselves. They don't need legends like Jimbei who already know the NW to do it for them.
I don't remember anyone basing their pro-Hancock or pro-Jimbei arguments around they being needed for the New World because of their strength. If anything, I've seen (and used myself) that they are more likely to join because weaker characters joining now wouldn't make sense because they're heading to the New World. Now that everyone is going to get stronger, it adds, not subtracts to the possibility of either or both of them joining, since they won't be stronger than Luffy and won't obfuscate the other fights anymore.
Well it looks like that since we are getting a timeskip and everyone will power up. I don't think the "Hancock and Jinbei are too powerful" argument won't hold much merit anymore.
Exactly.
Now that the timeskip is almost confirmed, I'm actually interested in knowin what will be Jimbei's and Hancock's role in it. I think Jimbei will leave Luffy now that he's recuperating and safe, and will return to Fishman Island. He will then meet Luffy again when the SH's go there.
Hancock will probably stay with Luffy, unless Luffy's taken to a place other then Amazon Lily to train. I could see a wordless montage of Luffy and Hancock getting closer (kind like the Sabo/Ace/Luffy montage during the last flashback). If that happens, I actually could see Hancock letting Luffy go because they've become close enough for her love to be satisfied (for now), or she could still be going with him anyway.
We will probably know in four weeks…
You guys are fucking stupid. If you think that post timeskip that a Warlord still wouldn't screw up the power balance, you are just deluding yourself.
I don't remember anyone basing their pro-Hancock or pro-Jimbei arguments around they being needed for the New World because of their strength. If anything, I've seen (and used myself) that they are more likely to join because weaker characters joining now wouldn't make sense because they're heading to the New World. Now that everyone is going to get stronger, it adds, not subtracts to the possibility of either or both of them joining, since they won't be stronger than Luffy and won't obfuscate the other fights anymore.
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Only Luffy will probably have surpassed Jimbei and Hancock after the timeskip.
Zorro and Sanji will be close but as strong as Hancock or Jimbei yet that's unlikely. The rest will still be far weaker despite their powerups.
Hancock and Jimbei would still outshine anyone except for Luffy at a time when the strawhats need to be in the limelight after years of absence.
Hancock and/or Jimbei will never join for that reason only. People wanna see the strawhat power ups not Hancock and Jimbei kicking ass in the NW.
Anyway if you don't remember anyone basing their pro-Hancock or pro-Jimbei arguments around they being needed for the New World because of their strength then you sure have a short memory.
You guys are fucking stupid. If you think that post timeskip that a Warlord still wouldn't screw up the power balance, you are just deluding yourself.
They won't give up. They'll keep up the bad reasoning and fanfics until their dreams are shattered.
So far Oda seems to have been holding Hancock back when it comes to fighting, and Jinbei already got his ass handed to him in Marineford. They don't really have the same feeling of being all powerful that Crocodile and Moria had, and how Doflamingo and Mihawk continue to.
The only three people who need to be strong in the crew are Luffy, Zoro and Sanji, as they do the brunt of the fighting. This timeskip will probably raise their power high enough that someone like Hancock or Jinbei can slip right in without throwing the balance off.
Zik: Well we gotta do something until the next chapters comes out.