I honestly don't understand why ppl made the leap from Kuma asking Perona where would she like to go to ppl unconsciously deciding what destination they'll go to when not asked where they'd like to go.
And if that isn't where that speculation stems from it's pretty baseless. Furthermore, if Kuma deciding the destination is boggling Sanji unconsciously wanting to go to the island of homosexuals is mind boggling and is even more unexplainable.
@Zik:
I honestly don't understand why ppl made the leap from Kuma asking Perona where would she like to go to ppl unconsciously deciding what destination they'll go to when not asked where they'd like to go.
And if that isn't where that speculation stems from it's pretty baseless. Furthermore, if Kuma deciding the destination is boggling Sanji unconsciously wanting to go to the island of homosexuals is mind boggling and is even more unexplainable.
No the specualtion is based on a translation of Sentoumaru's statement to Luffy back at SA about how Kuma's power works, coupled with the statement made by Rayleigh about how he found Luffy this week.
As for the islands argument, which has been raised prior to this but not effectively addressed–-Sanji may have been sent there to gain more power and techniques--the fact that its Kamabaka kingdom may be secondary, of course. Luffy going to Kuja would have the same sort of stupidity, right, since throughout its history men are killed instantly if they go there? It would then be the chance to learn ambition that sent him there, not the nature of the island itself. The reason for going to a place would be influenced by the unconscious need/desire of the person in question, not the nature of the culture on the individual island.
Luffy--need to train ambition/get more powerful
Zoro--need to train/have a nursemaid, however weak
Sanji--need to gain more techniques in fighting styles
Nami--weather knowledge
etc etc etc
@I:
No the specualtion is based on a translation of Sentoumaru's statement to Luffy back at SA about how Kuma's power works.
I thought Aohige already said it was wrong?
Regardless couldn't what Sentomaru said be interpreted as only the ppl who Kuma sent know after arriving there? As in not knowing where they're going but knowing where they are after they already got there.
It's silly to think Luffy subconsciously or unconsciously knew he was heading to AL but what Sentomaru said perfectly fits with Luffy knowing he was on AL after being informed of it.
@Zik:
I thought Aohige already said it was wrong?
Regardless couldn't what Sentomaru said be interpreted as only the ppl who Kuma sent know after arriving there? As in not knowing where they're going but knowing where they are after they already got there.
It's silly to think Luffy subconsciously or unconsciously knew he was heading to AL but what Sentomaru said perfectly fits with Luffy knowing he was on AL after being informed of it.
But more over how should they know about this places and Luffy had nothing from going to AL!
Yeah Ace/Boa bla bla. But before that he didn't know about Ace being executed.
Same for the others.
But for me this is upper bullshit and the case is closed. Of course Kuma knows where he was sending them^^
@I:
And Sanji may have been sent there to gain more power and techniques–the fact that its Kamabaka kingdom may be secondary, of course. Luffy going to Kuja would have the same sort of stupidity, right, since throughout its history men are killed instantly if they go there? It would then be the chance to learn ambition that sent him there, not the nature of the island itself.
That's irrelevant. What does Sanji going there to gain power and techniques have to do with him knowing where he was going subconsciously? Exactly how does he even know the island existed? How does he know he'll gain power and techniques there?
Why not go to a place Zeff mentioned to him on the GL where there were many strong opponents? or a place to improve his fighting style? If Sanji wanted to gain power and techniques exactly how does running form transsexuals accomplish that? If he wanted that he could've went to a lot of places. Nothing so far AT ALL implies Sanji subconsciously wanted to go there. Same for the others.
@Zik:
That's irrelevant. What does Sanji going there to gain power and techniques have to do with him knowing where he was going subconsciously? Exactly how does he even know the island existed? How does he know he'll gain power and techniques there?
Why not go to a place Zeff mentioned to him on the GL where there were many strong opponents? or a place to improve his fighting style? If Sanji wanted to gain power and techniques exactly how does running form transsexuals accomplish that? If he wanted that he could've went to a lot of places. Nothing so far AT ALL implies Sanji subconsciously wanted to go there. Same for the others.
Well–it depends on the nature of the power, and that is up in the air. If the power works using the unconscious needs/desires of the individual, then maybe its sort of like a magnet, and just find the place best suited within the range of the power. None of this would necessitate the person being sent to know the place or even be aware of where he is being sent while flying.
And this is the translation I was referring to. I hope you'll forgive me deferring to my dh, a native speaker of Japanese, lol. You of course have the right to disagree with him. I won't--the couch isn't so comfy here, lol
OK. I printed out a few of the posts for my husband. Remember he knows little to nothing about the manga and the story–he only knows the sentences being discussed--so he isn't influenced in any way by his own desired outcomes or previous knowledge etc. He said there is the possibility of interpreting the sentences to mean the sendees are influencing where they are sent in some way–intentionally or not.
@I:
Well–it depends on the nature of the power, and that is up in the air. If the power works using the unconscious needs/desires of the individual, then maybe its sort of like a magnet, and just find the place best suited within the range of the power. None of this would necessitate the person being sent to know the place or even be aware of where he is being sent while flying.
And this is the translation I was referring to. I hope you'll forgive me deferring to my dh, a native speaker of Japanese, lol. You of course have the right to disagree with him. I won't--the couch isn't so comfy here, lol
So you're saying Kuma's repelling ability somehow can tap into a character's mind and they influence where they go.
I'll go with Kuma knowing where he sent them.
@JERK:
The translation may work, I'm saying the logic of that being how the power works makes zero sense.
Kuma's fruit works around creating pressure, he blasts people with precise pressure to aim them at things.
How could the thoughts of the user have anything to do with it. It has nothing to do with the Paw Paw fruit.
Just because the influence that Kuma's power has over air seems to involve pressure does not mean that his power uses pressure.
The way that I interpreted Kuma's power is that it quickly and immediately sends the influenced object/thing/person where it wants to go.
Anything gaseous, as anyone who has gone through grade school (at least in the USA) will know, tends to fill up its vessel. In other words, gas hates to be around anything, even itself. Gases always expand to be as far as possible from anything that they can interact with.
When Kuma shoots his paw prints through the air, I interpret that as his paws causing the gas in immediate contact with his paw to go exactly where it wants to go: away from his paw. Thus, the paw shaped air bullet thingy.
Even when he is touching rocks and other inanimate objects, these things would feel the force from his hand and "want" to be pushed away. That's why his paw sends them flying.
Now, when it comes to sentient beings, the power may exhibit itself in a more subtle way. Perhaps if Kuma were not to ask his "If you were to go on a trip, where would you like to go?" then the person would simply go flying like any other object, since they really just don't want to be hit/touched by him. But, because Kuma did ask that question, the person thinks about an exact place where they would really like to be, and thus the power sends them immediately there.
Now, I can't think of a reasonable explanation for Robin and Brook, per se, but the others seem pretty obvious:
Luffy always wants to be where he is least allowed. Reference Skypeia arc when the Vearth is first mentioned/introduced. Thus, Amazon Lily.
Ussop always wants everything easy and within reach, thus the islands of plenty.
Franky is most interested in technology, especially with respect to blowing things up, thus the island where the world's greatest genius was born.
Zoro is most interested in training and swordsmen, thus this mysterious island with a scary swordsman.
Nami is most interested in weather, thus the sky island where weather is studied.
Sanji is most interested in maidens, thus the island where everyone has the heart of a maiden.
Chopper is less obvious, but I like the idea that others on this forum have had, that he went to an island where only he could be the hero and help everyone get along with each other.
And that's that. I am sure that Jerk Disease won't be thrilled that I'm quoting him/her and will respond with vicious aggression, but I had to submit my two cents.
[edit] Oh, so I guess the bottom line is that I don't think that Kuma has to know where the victim gets sent flying. I'm pretty sure he doesn't, actually, and can only tell the general direction they go in, from feel/sight/whatever.
[edit #2] Oh, and why the fuck does the power need to be logical? What is so logical about fruits with super secret special powers that when you eat them can turn you into animals, or fire, or rubber, or make you shoot slow/love beams?
[edit #3] Anyway, while you often make me crack up, Jerk, you really can be a… jerk when it comes to considering others' points of view.
Like someone else said a few pages before, Kuma probably did not tell Silvers the exact location because he didn't want him chasing after Luffy right away. Later on I bet it will be revealed that Kuma didn't appear just to rescue the crew from Yellow Monkey, but to keep them out of the war. Kuma is very aware of Luffy's War Lord beating, Ennies Lobby toppling, destroy all for those he loves attitude. He knew Luffy would be going after Ace, and I bet Dragon did to. Then just to make sure the SHs would not be entering the war, Dragon ordered the hit to send them all over the place where individualy they would have little hope of making it back together any time soon.
Again, if Kuma did not tell Silvers exactly where they were, he probably did it so that he would not rescue them too soon before the war could begin.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯ 
Don't know if it has already been said, but about Kuma's not telling the exact destination of Luffy's trip, maybe it was because when he went to tell all the story to Rayleigh, he had already started to lose his memories, so he couldn't be more precise.
Like someone else said a few pages before, Kuma probably did not tell Silvers the exact location because he didn't want him chasing after Luffy right away. Later on I bet it will be revealed that Kuma didn't appear just to rescue the crew from Yellow Monkey, but to keep them out of the war. Kuma is very aware of Luffy's War Lord beating, Ennies Lobby toppling, destroy all for those he loves attitude. He knew Luffy would be going after Ace, and I bet Dragon did to. Then just to make sure the SHs would not be entering the war, Dragon ordered the hit to send them all over the place where individually they would have little hope of making it back together any time soon.
Again, if Kuma did not tell Silvers exactly where they were, he probably did it so that he would not rescue them too soon before the war could begin.
Oh I missed that, and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks Romance. So you think he had orders from Dragon, and that he himself had doubts about them? ('Cause, remember? He mentioned that he himself had doubts about the whole thing after telling Ray that it was up to him what he believed…) It makes a lot of sense, and fits all the different info from all the pages. I like it.
@Zik:
So you're saying Kuma's repelling ability somehow can tap into a character's mind and they influence where they go.
@Zik:
I'll go with Kuma knowing where he sent them.
I'm saying it's possible, is all–and it's not the first time a power uses something internal from the person upon which it’s being used--precedent was set with Iva-chan's power. Nothing you have said has completely discounted the theory, so I can't discount it based on your arguments.
However–Romance Dawn's explanation of the ambiguity from Kuma to Ray made the chances swing back in favor of the simpler explanation you are espousing--as long as he was able to acquire info about the crew prior to sending them, and if it was a planned thing, then there's no reason to think he didn't have time to do just that.
@Meatpopsicle–I love your list of the reasons the characters were sent where they were. Luffy does indeed always want to be where he shouldn't, and the irony of the maidens for Sanji sounds like the kind of joke Oda would think was hilarious 
@I:
Oh I missed that, and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks Romance. So you think he had orders from Dragon, and that he himself had doubts about them? ('Cause, remember? He mentioned that he himself had doubts about the whole thing after telling Ray that it was up to him what he believed…) It makes a lot of sense, and fits all the different info from all the pages. I like it.
I'm saying its possible, is all--and its not the first time a power uses something internal from the person upon which its being used--precedent was set with Iva-chan's power. Nothing you have said has completely discounted the theory, so I can't discount it based on your arguments.
However--Romance Dawn's explanation of the ambiguity from Kuma to Ray made the chances swing back in favor of the simpler explanation you are espousing--as long as he was able to acquire info about the crew prior to sending them, and if it was a planned thing, then there's no reason to think he didn't have time to do just that.
@Meatpopsicle--I love your list of the reasons the characters were sent where they were. Luffy does indeed always want to be where he shouldn't, and the irony of the maidens for Sanji sounds like the kind of joke Oda would think was hilarious
:) Thanks! I'm glad that there's at least one person out there who thinks that the paw power works the way I think it does.
Meh why are people even hanging on to what Sentomaru said. He only has a vague idea of what Kuma's power does. If anything it sounded more like hearsay that he was speculating on. The fact that he said 3 days and Luffy was only in the air for 1 days puts the whole validity of his whole statement into question.
Kuma knows where he sends them. If it was a random thing, there's a high possibility that they'll end up in water. Another strike against it being random is how Zoro landed at the same place Perona did. If it was a character's subconsious thing why would Zoro and Perona both want to end up at the same place. It just doesn't make sense.
In the official translation of those chapters where Sentomaru is trying to explain Kuma's power they translated it as "only Kuma himself knows where they go." Of course this same translation turns Zoro's name into Zolo….
but i agree… Sentomaru doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about.
Couldn't this be interpretated as when they arrive they'll know where they are and as such the one who's been sent is the only one who knows where he/she is ? Not per se know ofcourse.
That is correct sir, and it makes more sense than assuming paw paw fruit has innate psychic powers.
The most likely scenario is that Kuma only bothered to tell Rayleigh the direction he sent Luffy to, and Ray deduced where he ended up.
The most likely scenario is that Kuma only bothered to tell Rayleigh the direction he sent Luffy to, and Ray deduced where he ended up.
Yep, and we know Rayleigh is not a shit for brains (unlike some main character I wont name)
Everyone knows about my fandom , but still I will write down my theory.
Chopper learnt that Luffy set Crocodile free and Crocodile became the WB pirates captain.
That is correct sir, and it makes more sense than assuming paw paw fruit has innate psychic powers.
The most likely scenario is that Kuma only bothered to tell Rayleigh the direction he sent Luffy to, and Ray deduced where he ended up.
Anyone doubting Aohige is insanse…
And seriosuly the theory about Kuma not knowing is completely stupid.
How can he say he has a plan if he had no clue about where they will land?
And best case is Robin. What did Robin learn. Do you really think her biggest wish is to get informations about revolutionaries?
Everyone knows about my fandom , but still I will write down my theory.
Chopper learnt that Luffy set Crocodile free and Crocodile became the WB pirates captain.
That doesn't make sense cause Chopper said "Why again..?" , that "again" reffer to something that luffy done or happened to him in the Past, something Deja-vu….probably Luffy has been blamed for Moria's Death
That is correct sir, and it makes more sense than assuming paw paw fruit has innate psychic powers.
The most likely scenario is that Kuma only bothered to tell Rayleigh the direction he sent Luffy to, and Ray deduced where he ended up.
this settles it.
That doesn't make sense cause Chopper said "Why again..?" , that "again" reffer to something that luffy done or happened to him in the Past, something Deja-vu….probably Luffy has been blamed for Moria's Death
Well Croc is out again !
It's a nice theory, but it's hard to think of the paw in that light since the places the SHs landed on is believed (debated) to have been picked out on purpose, rather than just a coincidence. Though a better possibility was thought out earlier, someone said that the ability kinda uses the thoughts of the person targeted instead of Kuma's to determine the location where he wants to land.
The whole concept that the DF power can read the person's mind, find his deepest desires (that the person himself doesn't have knowledge about), and even knows where in the world the person should go to accomplish what he wishes, and then send the person there, sounds kind of absurd to me…
Ok, I'll try to intrude into this discussion seriously.
Maybe Kuma only sends someone to a general direction. The person targeted then chooses, consciously or not, where he will land, but only after the "push" loses momentum. That's why no one lands in the ocean, for instance, or how no one can just land two meters alway from Kuma and not be pushed at all (or maybe you can and that's the fruit's weakness… the victims just hadn't time to think anything other than "oh shit", as they are pushed really fast).
However, the places the crew ended up were not chosen because of the contents of the island. I mean, Luffy didn't know AL had haki-using women warriors, nor Sanji knew that Momoiro Island was full of tranvestites. Maybe Sanji saw the "pink paradise" and the womanizer inside him thought "Oh, a land of girls!". Maybe Luffy saw AL and thought "I need to see my crew! I wanna land, damnit!".
When Kuma pushed Perona away, he first asked where she wanted to go, looked into his Bible where a place like that was, and pushed her in that general direction. When Perona saw the place, she unconsciously decided to land there.
(Then again, Zoro was unconscious when he landed, so he couldn't have chosen where to land...)
This is still too complicated, this might be a better explanation as to why they landed on land, since it's simpler:
Kuma's ability somehow makes the person land in the first place where there is soil above the sea in the direction he was sent (maybe the same thing who sets the Log Pose's direction in each island also affects Kuma's bear-palm-shaped-bubble-of-air?). And the person doesn't land in the same island he was repulsed from immediately after being sent because the repulsion force is too strong at the beginning of the journey.
There are a couple things about the "Kuma chose where to send everyone" theory that bother me, which are what cause me to search for alternatives. First, why did he send everyone to a different island? If you're trying to help a group escape, then putting them together seems pretty basic. Then some of the choices are very strange going with such a theory. Luffy to Amazon Lily? Chopper to an island in South Blue? The knowledge Kuma would have to possess to conclude such choices is boggling.
I believe he intended to send them to specific places to achieve some purposes (gaining more power for instance) but he couldn't be sure if they actually landed there. Or that there was more then one probable place in the path he sent them who could be useful to them even if they landed elsewhere.
And best case is Robin. What did Robin learn. Do you really think her biggest wish is to get informations about revolutionaries?
I don't think she was sent there to get informations about the revolutionaries, but about the world's history, the many generations of workers in the bridge might have left inscriptions (graffiti) along the whole bridge during it's building history. And she might find some useful information.
Robin subconsiously thought hey I need to head over to a place where I'm going to be a prisoner again after I just got freed from EL.
Ussop subconsciously wanted to be eaten alive by a island.
Sanji subconsciously wanted to go to a place he considered hell instead of the island Luffy ended up at.
Luffy who has a love of beetles and eating like Ussop's island subconsciously thought nah that sounds like shit. Why would I want to head to my dream island. I should head to Sanji's dream island instead.
Well Croc is out again !
what does it have to do with luffy ?
anyway, for crocodile to be out again, is not something important that ODA would leave it in a Mystery in the last page of a chapter with a "What now ?" as a note, cause it must be something that even we readers doesnt know.
Those notes are often put by the editors. I think.
@CCC:
The "ambiguity" of tobasita vs. tobasareta is only as ambiguous as pretty much any sentence spoken by any character in a manga, ever, if not less so. If you look hard enough you can play semantics in almost any situation. I'm not doubting the veracity of what Aohige said, but seriously, why on earth would Oda want to make it ambiguous anyway?
It can be interpreted in both ways, that much is a fact. And no, it's not the same with any manga ever, it's a bit of special case (that's why context is important). But I don't think it's necessary on purpose on Oda's part, and like I said in the same post, from the context I believe it's referring to Kuma himself.
I'm simply telling why it CAN be read opossite, so stphen isn't discredited.
I can see why he thought so, even though I don't
agree.
I can't type 2byte txt from this stupid smartphone, I'll explain in detail what grammatical ambiguity is at play when I get home. It comes down to lack of subject where the verb of "tobasu" is applied to.
It can be interpreted in both ways, that much is a fact. And no, it's not the same with any manga ever, it's a bit of special case (thatMs why context is important). But I don't think it's necessary on purpose on Oda's part, and like I said in the same post, from the context I believe it's referring to Kuma himself. I'm simply telling why it CAN be read opossite, so stphen isn't discredited.
I can see why he thought so, even though I don't agree.
Ah, thank you, again, Aohige-san. I appreciate the time you put into your translations and the effort to make the rest of us understand the nuances.
Those notes are often put by the editors. I think.
Not really, it was there on The Raw Chapter too.
why are you not convinced ?
Not really, it was there on The Raw Chapter too.
why are you not convinced ?
gara is usually crap but for once he is correct. the insert notes are by editor.
Not really, it was there on The Raw Chapter too.
why are you not convinced ?
By editor, he means the jump's editor not the scanlation's editor.
@Monkey:
By editor, he means the jump's editor not the scanlation's editor.
yeah now that convince me, And the Editor sure must know what come next chapters. thats why he put that.
There are a couple things about the "Kuma chose where to send everyone" theory that bother me, which are what cause me to search for alternatives. First, why did he send everyone to a different island?
If all of them were together, tell me exactly what the very first thing they would've done was?
Hint: Look at Usopp's actions this chapter.
And the Editor sure must know what come next chapters. thats why he put that.
No. They don't. They're complete fucking morons and their lines are infamous for having little to nothing to do with the next chapters. When they actually do, it's more because it's vague as shit.
Jump Editor: Next chapter, can Luffy overcome Ace's death!?
a week passes
World: OMFG! LUFFY REALLY OVERCAME LUFFY'S DEATH!
Sadly it's bull.
Where was the best one? I think it was after Enies Lobby. It was like, "What will the next island hold!?", and they spent four chapters recooperating and tying up loose ends.
What are you guys talking about ?
in this chapter Rayleigh said that the men (kuma) who sent luffy told him that He went into a line where AL lies.
The most likely scenario is that Kuma only bothered to tell Rayleigh the direction he sent Luffy to, and Ray deduced where he ended up.
What? No! This is just crazy talk. Someone get this man to a crazy house because all he talks is crazy talk.
Jump Editor: Next chapter, can Luffy overcome Ace's death!?
World: OMFG! LUFFY REALLY OVERCAME LUFFY'S DEATH!.
Well Brook had already overcome his own death…that's not a big deal :p
Where was the best one? I think it was after Enies Lobby. It was like, "What will the next island hold!?", and they spent four chapters recooperating and tying up loose ends.
I REMEMBER THAT ONE!!!! LOL
Is there something to hide on the scenes where the World Government cut the broadcast? They might put some pseudo story there and blame Luffy.
My favorite is the editors note from Ch. 586 as Luffy and Ace where running away during the fire in the Luffy's recent flashback.
Editor's note: Will they make it out alive!?
What? No! This is just crazy talk. Someone get this man to a crazy house because all he talks is crazy talk.
Hm how about this, i will assume how Kuma DF work :
HE Sent luffy Flying into a Direction, And he will Land on an island in 3 days, which mean that the speed of flying depend on how far this island cause Luffy will only Fly for 3 days.
So, On that direction, just like a line, lies many island, Luffy would land on the First one on that line which is Amazon Lily
is this crazy talk too ?
My favorite is the editors note from Ch. 586 as Luffy and Ace where running away during the fire in the Luffy's recent flashback.
Editor's note: Will they make it out alive!?
Lol i just noticed that, How come No one did except you ? and How Oda Reacted to that ?
Hm how about this, i will assume how Kuma DF work :
HE Sent luffy Flying into a Direction, And he will Land on an island in 3 days, which mean that the speed of flying depend on how far this island cause Luffy will only Fly for 3 days.
So, On that direction, just like a line, lies many island, Luffy would land on the First one on that line which is Amazon Lilyis this crazy talk too ?
…..
Okay so I'm just gonna go ahead and assume English isn't your first language.
How come No one did except you ?
Because everyone knows they're full of shit.
lol
Did Luffy just get his ass back in ID?
What makes you think this is possible? Did I miss something in the chapter indicating a difference in time frame from when Ray was talking to Luffy on AL and when Chopper was reading the paper?
…..
Okay so I'm just gonna go ahead and assume English isn't your first language.
Because everyone knows they're full of shit.
Oh you got me ! its my 4th language.
but really you know how to makes me enjoy my time here, thank you. 
if you dont understand my theory, i will try to make it more clear okay ?
YEah, thats because i just happen to learn that Its editor that makes these notes.
Rayleigh offered Luffy a 'plan' and we never got to see what it was.
Then at the end of the chapter we've got Chopper riding away knowing that Ace died and wanting to tend to Luffy's wounds. Furthermore, he comments that the news about the war should be wrapping up soon suggesting that a significant chunk of time has passed (few weeks? in other words, not too long after Rayleigh's offer) and then we see him react bug-eyed about something insane that Luffy has done, "…again!"
Safe to believe this has to do with Rayleigh's plan that has been enacted and it does not suggest that (IF one is to occur) a time-skip has happened. In other words, if it's going to happen, it will happen after whatever it is that has just been enacted.
Now, the killer part is that the case for a time-skip and the case against it are given equal evidence here YET AGAIN.
We've got Usopp in a scenario where he's fat, and by OP comic world rules seems to be able to take more damage, where he has to fight progressively stronger enemies in order to escape. That could take a long time.
Meanwhile, Chopper's already seemingly wrapped up everything where he is.
So…yeah. The battle rages on. It's extremely exciting/frustrating.
if you dont understand my theory, i will try to make it more clear okay ?
Has nothing to do with your grammar and everything to do with your sarcasm radar being out of commission.
Rayleigh offered Luffy a 'plan' and we never got to see what it was.
Then at the end of the chapter we've got Chopper riding away knowing that Ace died and wanting to tend to Luffy's wounds. Furthermore, he comments that the news about the war should be wrapping up soon suggesting that a significant chunk of time has passed and then we see him react bug-eyed about something insane that Luffy has done, "…again!"
Safe to believe this has to do with Rayleigh's plan that has been enacted and it does not suggest that IF a time-skip is to occur, it has happened. In other words, if it's going to happen, it will happen after whatever it is that has just been enacted.
Now, the killer part, is that the case for a time-skip and the case against it are given equal evidence here YET AGAIN.
We've got Usopp in a scenario where he's fat, and by OP comic world rules seems to be able to take more damage, where he has to fight progressively stronger enemies in order to escape. That could take a long time.
Meanwhile, Chopper's wrapped up everything where he is.
So...yeah. The battle rages on. It's extremely exciting/frustrating.
Has nothing to do with your grammar and everything to do with your sarcasm radar being out of commission.
Ugh time skip stuff. LOL Interesting analysis, thank you. Are you suggesting the horrid possibility that Oda would leave us hanging to find out WTF until after the timeskip occurs? Makes the fact that he created a character like Sadie more believable, I suppose…:ninja:
(sigh) I suppose I'll actually have to wade through that entire beast of a thread you created to get educated on the matter now. :getlost:
Oh and Don't lose hope on Chopper--there's always the possibility he stops by Usopp's island and rescues him--with hilarious antics ensuing prior to their actual leaving of course.
(I'm sorta scared to mention there's an alternative theory about the reading of the chapter re: Chopper's reaction...)
No I don't think so.
If it unfolds as I hope, we'll see a mirror to how this all began and get an update on everyone, all the while getting hints as to what Luffy is up to, ending with an incredible 'DO~N!' scene of Luffy in some crazy-ass scenario…again.
No I don't think so.
If it unfolds as I hope, we'll see a mirror to how this all began and get an update on everyone, all the while getting hints as to what Luffy is up to, ending with an incredible 'DO~N!' scene of Luffy in some crazy-ass scenario…again.
That does sound like Oda. Let's raise our glasses in hope for that, then. Kampai
That is…if he doesn't intend on punishing the hell out of Sanji in the final panel again.
Ugh, I didn't really want to take up this argument, but I suppose I'll roll with it and see if I can survive…
@Zik:
Maybe he didn't send them as a group cuz it would've been that much easier for them to return to get wiped out. I know he couldn't account for everything that went on with Luffy but the choices themselves may be due to w/e knowledge he posses of the crew and their abilities.
I don't think I could defend your argument on even half of the places the crew landed. Would you like to try?
He made a pretty distinct opinion on Franky's cyborg quality.
By calling him a cyborg and saying he wasn't very strong for getting messed up so easily? Any doofus could have made that same judgment while witnessing that fight with no info beyond a wanted poster.
I mean if his choice is just a random area where there is land there's no explaining how he got Perona's destination 100% correct.
I never made any argument at all about it being random. It's almost certainly not.
I believe he intended to send them to specific places to achieve some purposes (gaining more power for instance) but he couldn't be sure if they actually landed there. Or that there was more then one probable place in the path he sent them who could be useful to them even if they landed elsewhere.
What purpose would Kuma hope to serve by sending Luffy to Amazon Lily and Chopper to South Blue? He'd have to be related to Aizen to have planned all of this out.
If all of them were together, tell me exactly what the very first thing they would've done was?
All of them together after flying for 2-3 days? The first thing they'd probably do is find food and eat. After that they'd probably start to work on getting back. It's not even that they're not "all" together, which is taking it to an unnecessary extreme for the purpose of this argument. It's more important that "none" of them are together.
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The reason I bother to defend this idea is that it's the only idea I've ever heard which makes sense based on where the crew all ended up. I fully admit that the con of the theory is that it makes the logistics of the ability itself difficult to understand/describe (so I don't even like to attempt it). That con is simply easier for me to deal with than the ones tied to other theories.
