where did you get that from,
if you are referring to my post I said Sabo is cruising with Kaidou as his commander
Read the manga^^
And even better^^ Ace didn't know that Sabo is alive and if yes never said it to Luffy cuz he watend that Sabo is only his brother xD
Read the manga^^
And even better^^ Ace didn't know that Sabo is alive and if yes never said it to Luffy cuz he watend that Sabo is only his brother xD
Its possible that Sabo is w/ Kaidou or another Yonkou and Ace might not have known about it since Yonkou's don't meet up much (as evidence by the marines trying to halt a talk between Shanks and WB) the only deterrent from that is what Sabo would've been at least a well known pirate and Ace would've have known about him and mentioned him to Luffy in his death speech since he brought up Dadan during it, since he would've known that being a noble wasn't Sabo's happiness. Since the Tenryubito are showing up while Sabo leaves I think the most likely is that Sabo will be taken captive by them sometime next chapter since they do like having pirate slaves… all i can say 100% sure is that if Sabo is alive, Luffy will meet him present time
Its possible that Sabo is w/ Kaidou or another Yonkou and Ace might not have known about it since Yonkou's don't meet up much (as evidence by the marines trying to halt a talk between Shanks and WB) the only deterrent from that is what Sabo would've been at least a well known pirate and Ace would've have known about him and mentioned him to Luffy in his death speech since he brought up Dadan during it, since he would've known that being a noble wasn't Sabo's happiness. Since the Tenryubito are showing up while Sabo leaves I think the most likely is that Sabo will be taken captive by them sometime next chapter since they do like having pirate slaves… all i can say 100% sure is that if Sabo is alive, Luffy will meet him present time
Yeah being a member or commander of A Yankou crew but no one knew about it… How could the marines know the names of each commander during the war?
Since the Tenryubito are showing up while Sabo leaves I think the most likely is that Sabo will be taken captive by them sometime next chapter since they do like having pirate slaves… all i can say 100% sure is that if Sabo is alive, Luffy will meet him present time
I guess that might be true but would they take a kid for a slave? it's not like he is a unique or has any show value
and Ace might not know that Sabo became famous because Ace might not read the papers like Luffy.
Is there a chapter this week ?
I guess that might be true but would they take a kid for a slave? it's not like he is a unique or has any show value
and Ace might not know that Sabo became famous because Ace might not read the papers like Luffy.
And that asshole Sabo doesn't care about Ace and Luffy and never ever showed up again
And that asshole Sabo doesn't care about Ace and Luffy and never ever showed up again
man you should really read what people wrote if you want to talk about the stuff someone wrote
i actually wrote down how i reached my prediction i guess its late (in US) and your sleepy and all
man you should really read what people wrote if you want to talk about the stuff someone wrote
i actually wrote down how i reached my prediction i guess its late (in US) and your sleepy and all
No it simply that your preditcion is full of …
I wonder if the Tenryubito is escorted by some strong marine, maybe an admiral like SenGoku :) that would give more indication of when Sengoku became FleetAdmiral :)
Is there a chapter this week ?
Yes
crap like you? sorry had to say it
Oh my god now I'm totally heartbroken. How could you say such rude stuff^^
But I hate people who are just throwing in theories with no sense just because they want a character to appear once gain.
They totally don't look at the cons of their own theories and just say… Hey it's logical.
And yeah Sabo being a commander/member of a YONKOU is really a good reason for Luffy and Ace to don't know he is alive and a happy sailing pirate or whatever.
Slave thing is most likely if anything
I wonder if the Tenryubito is escorted by some strong marine, maybe an admiral like SenGoku :) that would give more indication of when Sengoku became FleetAdmiral :)
You mean someone like young sakazuki? That would assure, that the flashback ends tragically.
You mean someone like young sakazuki? That would assure, that the flashback ends tragically.
Sakazuki killing Sabo would be nice yeah lol.
Sakazuki killing Sabo would be nice yeah lol.
Yeah Sakazuki would be the ultimate opponent for Luffy if he ever hear that he killed his second brother as well^^
Oh my god now I'm totally heartbroken. How could you say such rude stuff^^
lol I edited before you wrote it because I thought it was a bit rude 
but you caught me
I was just trying to finish your sentence 
anyways, I don't care if sabo's dead or not i hate his bandaid over the face
Yeah Sakazuki would be the ultimate opponent for Luffy if he ever hear that he killed his second brother as well^^
I always thought of Akainu as his final opponent, but it wouldnt be much of a fight because it would occur after Luffy beaten Blackbeard and become Pirate King and he would just annihilate Akainu and actually kill him 
ow and Akainu would also piss his pants when Luffy shows up cause he knows whats going to happen :)
Btw why all this talk about Sabo arent we forgetting someone who will probably play a huge role aswell… Stelly ofcourse !!! I'm sure we see him in the new world somewhere :P
Why wouldn't Sabo search for Luffy and Ace after escaping? It's not like Luffy and Ace lived in some mysterious place Sabo never saw in his life. Sabo knew Dadan, Makino, Woop Slap, Garp… he could find Luffy and Ace quite easily if he so wished.
The last image of the chapter is Sabo sailing away on a ship with his jolly roger on it.
Sabo didn't seem concerned about Luffy and Ace.
This was in the manga.
The Ryuuma fight seems to have a little differnce to that.
Frixshun .
And the page before he says he wants to see Luffy and Ace so much… This was in the manga as well.
Yeah he's making a sacrifice.
He's realized he can no longer live in the Goa kingdom and chooses to live without saying goodbye to his friends.
Do you actually understand anything about this manga ?
Yeah he's making a sacrifice.
He's realized he can no longer live in the Goa kingdom and chooses to live without saying goodbye to his friends.Do you actually understand anything about this manga ?
Oh, right, I thought this manga was about the strength of friendship above anything else?
Oh, right, I thought this manga was about the strength of friendship above anything else?
And it's that very strength which allows characters to make sacrifices for their friends (Robin is a perfect example.)
Oh, right, I thought this manga was about the strength of friendship above anything else?
Which is exactly why Sabo is leaving.
He's put his friends in danger too many times.
By leaving his friends won't have to try and save him and put their lives at risk by doing so.
And it's that very strength which allows characters to make sacrifices for their friends (Robin is a perfect example.)
Sacrifice for their friends is different from sacrificing your friends.
Which is exactly why Sabo is leaving.
He's put his friends in danger too many times.By leaving his friends won't have to try and save him and put their lives at risk by doing so.
He put Ace and Luffy in danger exactly once.
But whatever, I'll wait and see.
Sacrifice for their friends is different from sacrificing your friends.
Are you referring to Robin? She.. never did that. She let herself be led away by CP9 so that they wouldn't harm her friends. Sounds like the same thing to me.
Any spoilers tonights?
Are you referring to Robin? She.. never did that. She let herself be led away by CP9 so that they wouldn't harm her friends. Sounds like the same thing to me.
I know about Robin. I'm talking about Sabo just leaving without a word to his brothers, and never returning in 10 years to just say he's okay.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
I know about Robin. I'm talking about Sabo just leaving without a word to his brothers, and never returning in 10 years to just say he's okay.
In 10 years of piracy doing God knows what with god know who it is possible that his priorities may have changed.
I know about Robin. I'm talking about Sabo just leaving without a word to his brothers, and never returning in 10 years to just say he's okay.
Maybe he never made it to the GrandLine, went to some other sea or found out that mountain bandits are way cooler than piracy?
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/67373685/20
it is a sacrifice. he left his friends so their safety, well and fulfill his dream/destiny
A very plausible explanation as to why Sabo left without seeking out Luffy and Ace is that he may believe that they died in the fire on Trash Mountain.
Another very good reason could be that Sabo feels he would be putting Luffy and Ace's life in danger if he sought them out. In the upper frame here, Sabo's father tells him, no matter how many times you run, I will find you. It can be implied that his father would search the Goa Kingdom looking for him and Sabo knows that if he were to seek out Ace and Luffy, his father would find him.
Also, you have to remember that the deal Sabo made with his father was that Ace and Luffy wouldn't be harmed if Sabo agreed to go back to high town. This deal would be null and void, if Sabo were to seek out Ace and Luffy again.
I personally don't think that Sabo will die. Somehow, I believe he ends up with the revolutionaries. The guy just talks too much about freedom and knows how rotten the nobility are.
I know about Robin. I'm talking about Sabo just leaving without a word to his brothers, and never returning in 10 years to just say he's okay.
[speculation] Well when the Tenryuubito decided to shoot down his ship because he was "in the way" of the ceremony and an "eyesore" to the World Nobles he barely escaped alive but was washed out at sea. Then, as we all know, Dragon picked him up and made him into a fine Revolutionary soldier. Given the fact that we know the Revolutionaries are well organized and patriotic to their cause, Sabo was unable to leave his extremely important duties to go find Ace or Luffy. Not that he didn't want to or he didn't care…it's just that he had more of an obligation to take care of business.[/speculation]
I don't think that Sabo sacrificed his Brothers at all, just made a sacrifice for them. He knew that if he stayed at Goa Kingdom, all it would do is bring trouble upon himself and his Brothers…nothing was going to change. He set out to sea, a dream that all 3 of them had...knowing this I am sure he expected to be reunited at some point...whether that happens or not is up to future events and circumstances...and we all know he isn't going to meet up with Ace....wait a second.........maybe he did (prior to Ace's death) but it was never mentioned....hmmm....anyway....so yeah...this is all if he lives past this flashback. I am leaning toward yes.
[speculation] Well when the Tenryuubito decided to shoot down his ship because he was "in the way" of the ceremony and an "eyesore" to the World Nobles he barely escaped alive but was washed out at sea. Then, as we all know, Dragon picked him up and made him into a fine Revolutionary soldier. Given the fact that we know the Revolutionaries are well organized and patriotic to their cause, Sabo was unable to leave his extremely important duties to go find Ace or Luffy. Not that he didn't want to or he didn't care…it's just that he had more of an obligation to take care of business.[/speculation]
I don't think that Sabo sacrificed his Brothers at all, just made a sacrifice for them. He knew that if he stayed at Goa Kingdom, all it would do is bring trouble upon himself and his Brothers…nothing was going to change. He set out to sea, a dream that all 3 of them had...knowing this I am sure he expected to be reunited at some point...whether that happens or not is up to future events and circumstances...and we all know he isn't going to meet up with Ace....wait a second.........maybe he did (prior to Ace's death) but it was never mentioned....hmmm....anyway....so yeah...this is all if he lives past this flashback. I am leaning toward yes.
This.
Very nice theory and I believe something very close to this will happen. As I stated in my prior post, there are a myriad of reasons as to why Sabo didn't seek out Ace and Luffy before departing. The most plausible explanations being he didn't want to put them in danger or he believes they died in the fire.
I don't think that Sabo sacrificed his Brothers at all, just made a sacrifice for them. He knew that if he stayed at Goa Kingdom, all it would do is bring trouble upon himself and his Brothers…nothing was going to change. He set out to sea, a dream that all 3 of them had...knowing this I am sure he expected to be reunited at some point...whether that happens or not is up to future events and circumstances...and we all know he isn't going to meet up with Ace....wait a second.........**maybe he did (prior to Ace's death) but it was never mentioned….**hmmm….anyway....so yeah...this is all if he lives past this flashback. I am leaning toward yes.
No, I don't think they have met, he left a message to Dandan when he was dieing, so that Luffy tell her when they meet, but he didn't left anything to be said to Sabo.
Review Time!
! Cover Page - Dragon: For the last time, Iva! You can't num num on my head!
Iva: Awwwww!!
! Bluejam again: He literally snapped in this chapter. I wouldn't blame him especially what the king has done to him. And speaking of the king…
! The King of Goa - I'm starting to believe that he's freaking oblivious to most things that happen in his kingdom. He's the one who planned the fire yet he says the line and I quote.
! > Said by The King of Goa
My heavens… Night has already fallen yet the sky is still annoyingly bright...
! He must of learned to lead a country from GWB. facepalm
! Ace having the King's Haki - Uuuuuuuuuh! So what? It's not gonna something new after few chapters. :ninja:
! Dadan and Co. come to save the day - And Dadan is an axe user! Crap Yes!!
! Ace and Dadan stay behind - I know that they'll survive but the thought of when they return has me on the edge of my seat.
! Dragon's Grand Rescue - This scene needs epic music. In a braveheart voice: FREEDOM!!!!
! Sabo's departure - I feel it's gonna lead to two things: Sabo's Death or his supposed death but he really survived, became revolutionary, and recently saved Robin from the bridge place. But, that's my two guesses.Anyway, good chapter.
In 10 years of piracy doing God knows what with god know who it is possible that his priorities may have changed.
Maybe Sabo's priorities changed (highly doubt it), but there is one person we know whose priorities haven't changed since then: LUFFY. There is absolutely no way Luffy would just forget about Sabo. Ever.
Why wouldn't Luffy go after his brother Sabo? Hell, we saw him jump into the middle of a WAR that would most likely kill him for his other brother Ace. So why would Sabo be any different?
Super connard!
That's a funny name ;)
Sabo seems a little too developed to die in a flashback. Every single flashback character that died back then wasn't developed too much no matter how much impact and significance the character played on.
For example in Zoro's flashback - The person who died was Kuina, she had the same ambitions as Zoro and was one of the pivotal reasons on Zoro's dream of being a swordsman. Although she impacted Zoro a lot, her character wasn't as developed and three dimensional as Sabo, there is an inadequate amount of her personality shown in the flashback while in Luffy's flashback, the readers gets to sympathize with Sabo much more than Kuina or Tom. The flash back characters who are dead are insignificant alone but they still put a great impact on the Straw Hat crew.
BTW for Sanji's crew/family, they aren't that important because the "tragic" and traumatic portion of the flash back was Zeff's leg.
To be fair, Zoro's flashback was only eight pages…
I can easily argue that Saul or Dr. Hiluluk were as developed or more developed than Sabo. And we know exactly how they ended up.
母しゃべる「ドッグチーズ」
^^ the difference is that those two flashback charas already lived their life\dream and just decided for themself to spend the rest of their life hunting after that they believed in.
Hiriluk for a medicine for everyone and Saul fighted in the end against that what after his opinion was the wrong side^^
@Don:
^^ the difference is that those two flashback charas already lived their life\dream and just decided for themself to spend the rest of their life hunting after that they believed in.
Hiriluk for a medicine for everyone and Saul fighted in the end against that what after his opinion was the wrong side^^
yes but also the similarities between them and sabo is that we were first introduced to them in the flashback.
i can't think of anyone but ENEMIES that have been introduced in a flashback and lived through it
yes but also the similarities between them and sabo is that we were first introduced to them in the flashback.
i can't think of anyone but ENEMIES that have been introduced in a flashback and lived through it
Shanks, Zoro's teacher and probably more.
Shanks, Zoro's teacher and probably more.
shanks wasn't a flashback
and ok
zoro's teacher, or anyone in zoro's flashback
wow, i think that might be it. i seriously can't think of anyone else besides marines like aikanu or spandam. all else were already known of in current time, or they died in flashback.
Oda gave an open ending previous chapter that is why we are having a tough time guessing what would happen. But we must keep in mind what Ace said. If the translators are not wrong he says, "If it weren't for the Sabo incident I wouldn't have lived." It clearly says that the sabo incident propelled him to live. And one more point is Luffy said that Ace is his only brother. So either Sabo is dead/they dont consider Sabo as their brother. And the ending of the last chapter shows Sabo's pirate flag. Ace is clearly shown to have that tattoo.
All these points show that either Sabo is really dead or he isn't but was shown as dead because of which Ace/Luffy think that he is dead or he has turned evil.
For the millionth time, the word "incident" in that "Sabo incident" statement was a choice made by the translator, since he didn't know if Sabo was a thing, a place, an event, a person, or anything else, he used this "incident" word there to make Sabo something generic.
In fact other translators (Molokidan, Cnet) even translated it as "Sabo thing", and Cnet even stated that it was completely vague:
"Ace: …Yeah... you know... if it weren't for the Sabo thing... and having a little brother like you to look out for... // ...I would never have... even... wanted to live...
[TN: I hate you, Oda. Okay, DISCLAIMER: I have no idea what "sabo no ken" refers to. "~no ken" is pretty much the vaguest structure ever, and I don't know whether "sabo" is a person's name, the name of a thing, or anything else that it could feasibly refer to (edict suggests that the word can be an abbreviation of "sabotage", or a type of shoes, and to be honest, I can't rule either of those out either).]"
shanks wasn't a flashback
and ok
zoro's teacher, or anyone in zoro's flashback
wow, i think that might be it. i seriously can't think of anyone else besides marines like aikanu or spandam. all else were already known of in current time, or they died in flashback.
It was a flashback
It wasn't a flashback…
http://beta.onemanga.com/One_Piece/1/48/
the story starts present time and time skips forward
For the millionth time, the word "incident" in that "Sabo incident" statement was a choice made by the translator, since he didn't know if Sabo was a thing, a place, an event, a person, or anything else, he used this "incident" word there to make Sabo something generic.
In fact other translators (Molokidan, Cnet) even translated it as "Sabo thing", and Cnet even stated that it was completely vague:
"Ace: …Yeah... you know... if it weren't for the Sabo thing... and having a little brother like you to look out for... // ...I would never have... even... wanted to live...
[TN: I hate you, Oda. Okay, DISCLAIMER: I have no idea what "sabo no ken" refers to. "~no ken" is pretty much the vaguest structure ever, and I don't know whether "sabo" is a person's name, the name of a thing, or anything else that it could feasibly refer to (edict suggests that the word can be an abbreviation of "sabotage", or a type of shoes, and to be honest, I can't rule either of those out either).]"
Whether Sabo is a thing or an incident or a person, that Sabo did encourage him to live longer. Once again we are left with the same options as above.
shanks wasn't a flashback
and ok
zoro's teacher, or anyone in zoro's flashback
wow, i think that might be it. i seriously can't think of anyone else besides marines like aikanu or spandam. all else were already known of in current time, or they died in flashback.
Dadan (most likely). iirc, she first showed up somewhat in Garp's Ace flashback and then competely in the current one. Although she was referenced previous to that too (but then again, so was Akainu).
So…
Zoro's Teacher
Akainu
Dadan
The rest of the Dadan family pirates (assumingly)
Actually, unless something catastrophic happens soon, this current flashback will be pretty atypical in terms of character intros. Which just further convinces me that Oda is using Luffy's flashback to concurrently build up Luffy's past and the series' mythos for the next arc.
do we have chapter this week ??
