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Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
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So its out again…strange Luffy and Ace seem to be older compared to the last chapter, or I'm imagining thing? :D
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Now we have the declaration that Sabo won't go with Dragon. Dragon already sailed away… Now Sabo is dead or a pirate who dowsn't care about Luffy and Ace anymore
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A kuma sighting, and sabo leaves, a good chapter.
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Kuma :wassat:
WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!
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Someone still doubts Sabo is dead?
he isn't with Dragon, cuz Dragon sailed away. If he would be a mere pirate and alive the world, Ace and Luffy would know about that and he would probably come to the war as even NW captains did who hasn't that deep story with Ace
So what will happen now
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Wow, another 20 pager…
I guess I am still not used to all the long chapters with heavy dialogues after the War..
Someone still doubts Sabo is dead?
he isn't with Dragon, cuz Dragon sailed away. If he would be a mere pirate and alive the world, Ace and Luffy would know about that and he would probably come to the war as even NW captains did who hasn't that deep story with Ace
So what will happen now
He could be a slave somewhere…
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great chapter, probably going to finish in the next two chapters i figure
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If Sabo does escape the fisrt thing we should see after this flashback would be a grown up Sabo saying some shit like "I wasn't im time" or something like that.
Was it me, or is there a new clue to Dragon powers on this chapter?
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Thanks for the chapter.
Somehow the chapter seems to be defined by two characters: Sabo (who finally frees himself from the hellhole of Goa) and Dragon (both in saving all those people…and his disgruntled opening page tending with Phone Snails) Somehow I do assume Ace and Dadan do survive the battle with Bluejam...but that is for next time.
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this flashback is awesome
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Gotta say I'm really enjoying the late spoilers, makes it so much easier to not ruin the chapter for myself.
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If Sabo does escape the fisrt thing we should see after this flashback would be a grown up Sabo saying some shit like "I wasn't im time" or something like that.
So true and a explanation why Luffy doesn't know he is alive and Ace didn't mention to greet him… and why Ace has the crossed out S
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Let me be the first to say that Dragon's ship looks amazingly badass. And I guess this is super-confirmation that Kuma was a revolutionary then (not that we didn't really know that already).
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So… Kuma was a revolutionary and Sabo is a pirate somewhere. And Dragon's fruit still hasn't been officially revealed, although it's almost certainly wind.
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It's weird to see Kuma without his bible. Actually, he looks kind of like a cultist with that hood, ironically enough.
Well, we all know Dadan and Ace are going to make it back, so I guess the only mystery left is what Sabo's fate will be. And the Celestial Dragon too, I suppose. We should finally see him/her next chapter.
Hm, what else… I really liked that cityscape in the beginning. Very nice. Cover is very lulz-worthy thanks to Dragon, especially since we still don't know much about him.
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Someone still doubts Sabo is dead?
he isn't with Dragon, cuz Dragon sailed away. If he would be a mere pirate and alive the world, Ace and Luffy would know about that and he would probably come to the war as even NW captains did who hasn't that deep story with Ace
So what will happen now
Third option: Ace died in the fire and Sabo became the Ace we know today.:ninja:
The pathway that was created by Dragon's ship is the most interesting thing in the chapter. Well, at least it wasn't discussed in the spoiler section. At first I thought it was Kuma but then I didn't see a paw outline.
Other theories include Dragon's ability, another person's ability on board with Dragon, or just a regular cannon or something which can create an explosion and kill the flames.Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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Someone still doubts Sabo is dead?
he isn't with Dragon, cuz Dragon sailed away. If he would be a mere pirate and alive the world, Ace and Luffy would know about that and he would probably come to the war as even NW captains did who hasn't that deep story with Ace
So what will happen now
I'm never one to completely dismiss a possibility. Dragon may still have a part to play in this story, who knows?
However, I agree that the biggest chance is that his part in this is done. Sabo's destiny lies elsewhere, I think.
Aside from that…
Kuma among the revolutionaries!
I always wanted to see if he was different before becoming a Pacifista, but seems like he's basically the same appearance-wise.I think this flashback has been very uneven. Lots of events and turns and surprises, but I can't get a hold of the characters emotionally speaking. Maybe it's because we are not following just one character's journey, but while I'm still enjoying this tale and its revelations, I don't feel it's as enthralling as past flashbacks... I hope I'll change my mind once the full tale is told to us.
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Now we have the declaration that Sabo won't go with Dragon. Dragon already sailed away… Now Sabo is dead or a pirate who dowsn't care about Luffy and Ace anymore
And just where did you see anything about Sabo no longer caring about Ace and Luffy?
This is Oda we are talking about. For all we know Sabo might have ended up stuck on an island on the grandline for several years waiting for his log post to change.
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Awesome chapter !
Dragon rules !
Sabo is gonna die for sure. Obviously, as people have already noticed, his flag is on Ace's tatoo.
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Third option: Ace died in the fire and Sabo became the Ace we know today.:ninja:
The pathway that was created by Dragon's ship is the most interesting thing in the chapter. Well, at least it wasn't discussed in the spoiler section. At first I thought it was Kuma but then I didn't see a paw outline.
Other theories include Dragon's ability, another person's ability on board with Dragon, or just a regular cannon or something which can create an explosion and kill the flames.No Sabo wasn't that hot-headed and overconfident to let himself been killed cuz of an insult.
But now the tings for Sabo are looking really bad. Dragon is away and Luffy is speaking about only one brother in the current timeline. A pirate would be know in the world. And Sabo if he is a pirate would come to help
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So true and a explanation why Luffy doesn't know he is alive and Ace didn't mention to greet him… and why Ace has the crossed out S
Why are you so close minded, wait for the flashback to end before start calling some plot holes and shit, can't you really see any way for Oda to solve all those things? Plus, why are you so sure the crossed S on Ace tattoo was in honor to Sabo death?
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OMFG epic chapter Sabo still alive???!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!
Kuma spotted! epic :)
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No Sabo wasn't that hot-headed and overconfident to let himself been killed cuz of an insult.
Obviously Sabo was hit on the head and believed himself to be the Ace we knew in the current storyline. It would explain why Ace was so nice in Alabasta. And I was totally being serious with my comment.
Oda would have some huge cojones if he killed Sabo. This would be the first death of a named child in One Piece. I would be sad even if he had no character development. Some people really like Sabo too.
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Sabo is gonna die for sure. Obviously, as people have already noticed, his flag is on Ace's tatoo.
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Why are you so close minded, wait for the flashback to end before start calling some plot holes and shit, can't you really see any way for Oda to solve all those things, plus, why are you so sure the crossed S on Ace tattoo was in honor to Sabo death?
So tell me a good explanation why a pirate Sabo isn't recognized by nobody and not even Ace or Luffy? Why is Luffy only speaking about ONE brother if he FOR NOW knows he is completely fine? Where was he?
And the S thing is now really obivious.
The strongest pro for him was being a revolutionary and being saved by Dragon. But this one has fallen apart right now.
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Dragon is the man.
Nuff said.Sabo's flag now is in Ace's arm.
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meh
only thing that really interested me was kuma
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Ok, I officialy accept Dragon's goals as noble, he isn't just the lesser of two evils, he's good.
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Why are you so close minded, wait for the flashback to end before start calling some plot holes and shit, can't you really see any way for Oda to solve all those things? Plus, why are you so sure the crossed S on Ace tattoo was in honor to Sabo death?
Obviously because the L in Ace's tatoo which stands for Luffy isn't crossed out
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Very interesting little chapter.
So Kuma has been working with Dragon for at least 10 years, interesting. Once more, why does Kuma 'seem' to know that Luffy is Dragon's son but Ivan-san didn't know until Luffy told him in Impel Down?
Sabo may have set sail but something tells me he is going to be captured before he can get away from the Goa Kingdom. A very high ranking Marine could be on the ship carrying the Celestial Dragon and seeing Sabo's pirate flag could result in Sabo being attacked.
Once again, the King of City's face is hidden so it will be interesting to find out who he is. Right now, I can't even think of who this person might be. I suspect it is someone who we have met before.
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best chapter in along time
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It would be funny if Sabo is actually alive and Luffy still thought he is dead for nothing just because he sailed away. And that no one even Ace didn't know that.
Sabo - the undercover pirate
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World nobles are about to land, and Sabo is in the way of the ceremony? Oh my, so this is how Sabos story will end. We all know what happens when one gets in the way of a world noble.
I really liked this chapter. Really, really liked. claps
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am i the only one that got turned off by ace using haki?
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It would be funny if Sabo is actually alive and Luffy still thought he is dead for nothing just because he sailed away. And that no one even Ace didn't know that.
Sabo - the undercover pirate
Luffy knows that Sabo was taken back to High Town, so why would Luffy think he is dead?
am i the only one that got turned off by ace using haki?
Yes. My reaction was that of Vegeta's when he first discovered Trunks was a Super Seiyan.
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Dragon's shirt = awesome. Growing transponder snails, kind of soft for such a stern-looking guy as him. However, cover is still great.
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I don't think Dragon sailed away.
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Luffy knows that Sabo was taken back to High Town, so why would Luffy think he is dead?
That's exactly my point but some people still believe he is having a nice pirate life and Luffy just thinks he is dead for the lulz. And no one knows about that
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And really the S thing is really obivious now isn't it?
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did i get that right?
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Ace was a bad ass when he was a kid… MOTHER FUCKING HAOSHOKU HAKI... too bad he grew up
