Timeskip Predictions
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There's no reason to even have a time skip.
Even with the current problem leading to the almost anihilation of the entire SH crew?
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timeskips are useful when your series is not based on the story, but on the special attacks of the characters. gives you some time to explain the trainings and such later on.
which doesn't apply to oda. so i say no timeskip.
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a time skip would give oda a easyer way of warping the OP world due to WB's death. It doesnt even have to be long just a couple of months for every pirate in the world to go power hungry and charge after WB's territorys. or were u expecting robin to make it all the way to luffy in a few days? hell if theres not a time skip im not sure OP would b as enjoyable as before i wanna see all the SH's!
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Just a clarification. Oda uses time skips all the time.
This discussion is about the duration and purpose of a specific time skip.
A time skip to get the crew back together and to give the crew enough time to become stronger (through whatever methods, training, upgraded weapons, bodies, more rumble balls, or whatever) for their entrance into the New World.At least, this is my understanding of the thread and my stance on why a time skip is welcome. And considering how quickly the SHs have grown, a few months isn't that much time for them to develop even further.
So, for those worried about "missing" adventure. The time skip would take place before the crew is reunited, and voila, no missed adventure.
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So, for those worried about "missing" adventure. The time skip would take place before the crew is reunited, and voila, no missed adventure.
"Noooo… To timeskip alone is to timeskip lonely adventures.... non non non mon cher! That is not acceptable mon ami!"
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I hope everyone remembers that luffy and his crew have been apart for 3 weeks already. As for everyone saying they need to get stronger to enter the NW they can get a mini upgrade and then we see them grow while in the NW just like before. It not like we have any idea how long the story going to take place in NW or how much years it going to be in OP before luffy find the One Piece.
If other supernovas can enter the NW the SH should do just fine with a mini upgrade for now, I just wonder how stronger some people really expect the SH to be when they come back.
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"Noooo… To timeskip alone is to timeskip lonely adventures.... non non non mon cher! That is not acceptable mon ami!"
Ce n'est acceptable que vous dites!! Je ne suis pas votre ami, mon pote!
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I don't like the whole time skip idea, now is probably the time to get to the other strawhats adventures and to see how they got back to SA or where ever they meet up with each other. Or just let luffy heal mentally and physically so he can get back to the sunny and rayleigh where he meets his crew that is waiting for him and then we get some personal flashbacks for all of them and an explanation of whatever it was that Kuma said to rayleigh before he kuma-bitchslapped the SH's around the world.
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Ce n'est acceptable que vous dites!! Je ne suis pas votre ami, mon pote!
Ah mon cher… La beauté des contradictions!
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timeskips are useful when your series is not based on the story, but on the special attacks of the characters. gives you some time to explain the trainings and such later on.
which doesn't apply to oda. so i say no timeskip.
Timeskips are useful for letting major events develop.
See the jump between the Star Wars prequels and sequels.
From when the Empire has only just consolidated power and still ahs many Jedi's to hunt down, to a period where they have been in absolute power for years and Jedi are thought to be extinct.Which is easily comparable to the new era ripped open by Whitebeard's death and Blackbeard's ascent.
So you're wrong as usual.1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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Ah mon cher… La beauté des contradictions!
You've called me dear twice now :wassat: Is that just a french thing :ninja:
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@JERK:
Timeskips are useful for letting major events develop.
See the jump between the Star Wars prequels and sequels.
From when the Empire has only just consolidated power and still ahs many Jedi's to hunt down, to a period where they have been in absolute power for years and Jedi are thought to be extinct.Which is easily comparable to the new era ripped open by Whitebeard's death and Blackbeard's ascent.
So you're wrong as usual.There not easily comparable at all. Yes you can use time skips to let major events take place but your eg does not suit OP at all .
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There not easily comparable at all. Yes you can use time skips to let major events take place but your eg does not suit OP at all .
Thanks for saying "no" with absolute no explanation as to why it fails.
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Everything is just theory. Whether there is a time skip, whether Sabo is dead. Just what Zephos expects in what she thinks is a good manga, and what she expects a good writer like Oda to do. If there is not a timeskip, Zephos will be disappointed. And if there is a time skip, no one will be disappointed.
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well ipersonaly think to skip… cause every one especialy luffy should go in the new world with a clear mind..
tha is propably what will happen if it happens a time skip...actualy several months wouldnt be too bad.. also as they stated in anotherthread oda said tha the adventure in the 10nth moovie will be the last time we see luffy as a 17 year old ... probably like dragon ball.. i think its ment to be:ninja: -
Just a clarification. Oda uses time skips all the time.
This discussion is about the duration and purpose of a specific time skip.
A time skip to get the crew back together and to give the crew enough time to become stronger (through whatever methods, training, upgraded weapons, bodies, more rumble balls, or whatever) for their entrance into the New World.At least, this is my understanding of the thread and my stance on why a time skip is welcome. And considering how quickly the SHs have grown, a few months isn't that much time for them to develop even further.
So, for those worried about "missing" adventure. The time skip would take place before the crew is reunited, and voila, no missed adventure.
It's become a debate about why it cannot be a YEAR or more– that's about it.
We all know that Oda fast-forwards the boring, dull details-- he just did it with the two week skip.
However, we've only seen this "yearly, or extended" time skip when Flashbacks ended, when Luffy skipped ten years into the future and when other stupid trivial things happened like SW or something pointless.
Never in the "real-time" story progress.
That's the issue, there's no way Oda will just skip ahead a year while in the middle of the plot, just to make people STRONGER-- even though this isn't even needed at all.
That's what Naruto or Bleach does since they just fucking suck.
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That's what Dragonball, Berserk, and Vagabond do because they fucking own.
And no, Bleach and Naruto SHOW us most training while we beg to scrape out eyes out.And did you just say for instance that we skip ten years in the beginning because it's dull? Thanks for killing your argument.
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No, because they had no plot at all and they just skipped the stupid things like "training" for a tournament and so on.
OP is not a stationary plot, there's risks in skipping years and such, there wasn't anything like that in DB.
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No, because they had no plot at all and they just skipped the stupid things like "training" for a tournament and so on.
What One Piece plot would we miss right now by skipping?
OP is not a stationary plot, there's risks in skipping years and such, there wasn't anything like that in DB.
What risks. Name them.
Also address the other two mangas I brought up thnx n advance.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with a long time skip in one piece. Even a timeskip of years would be fine. It's not difficult to fill in the gaps with flashbacks here and there or 1-3 chapters dedicated to explaining what's happened in between.
Also Luffy being PK at the age of 17-18 is lame while defeating admirals and perhaps a yonkou at such a young age (INB4 LOL HE BEAT CROC). It's too implausible.
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Why would luffy being PK at 18 be lame. Luffy is not normal in first place. He is a D , his father and grandfather have done crazy stuff, he has haki that only 1 in million people have. Even how he grew up is not normal .
Even in real life is not out of the norm for a young up start to better than older more experience guys.
Still we have to find out what makes you PK in first place , if its just getting to raftel and finding the OP age don't really matter . People call Roger PK after he made to last island in grand line. They were still guys left who could have taken him on .
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Do you see 18 year olds being the CEO of Microsoft or Exxon Mobil? No
Roger was a D too, and everything about him was abnormal. Yet he reached raftel at a much older age. It signified that you need much hard work and experience before you can reach it. 18 years old does not mean you have experience. If luffy finds one piece at such a young age it would depreciate it and it would not be as epic.
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Do you see 18 year olds being the CEO of Microsoft or Exxon Mobil? No
Roger was a D too, and everything about him was abnormal. Yet he reached raftel at a much older age. It signified that you need much hard work and experience before you can reach it. 18 years old does not mean you have experience. If luffy finds one piece at such a young age it would depreciate it and it would not be as epic.
No but i see young people being best sports people in world , I see young people best musicians also . Mike Tyson became World heavyweight champion at 20. Jet LI was already a master at 16 .Only in the corporate world does age matter more and since being PK is more about being physical strong than smart i think luffy okay , even better since he has some one who is smart on his crew when come to those things.
Also from what Roger say it seem like you need find out how to get to raftel, age really don't have much to do with it . Also since when was roger abnormal all we know of him was that he was D . We don't know his family members other than Ace , we don't when he set out to be a pirate or how he was raise .
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I've seen young people be president.
Wait…
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That's the issue, there's no way Oda will just skip ahead a year while in the middle of the plot, .
were in a flash back cheif… not to mention luffys just crying on AL over ace... im failing to see any real current plot sure we have the whole find one piece deal but that been a given from the first episode
Also since when was roger abnormal all we know of him was that he was D . We don't know his family members other than Ace , we don't when he set out to be a pirate or how he was raise .
he smiled at his exicution and people have made connections between luffy and roger i think if he's ANYTHINg like luffy its a safe bet to say he's not normal
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What's happening now that would make a timeskip inconvenient at this point aside from Luffy's big flashback.
I think having one occur immediately after Luffy's big flashback would be a decent time.
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No but i see young people being best sports people in world , I see young people best musicians also . Mike Tyson became World heavyweight champion at 20. Jet LI was already a master at 16 .Only in the corporate world does age matter more and since being PK is more about being physical strong than smart i think luffy okay , even better since he has some one who is smart on his crew when come to those things.
Also from what Roger say it seem like you need find out how to get to raftel, age really don't have much to do with it . Also since when was roger abnormal all we know of him was that he was D . We don't know his family members other than Ace , we don't when he set out to be a pirate or how he was raise .
So who would win the 20 year old mike tyson or the 25 year old mike tyson?
Lebron james at 18 or lebron at 25?A male's body is not fully developed at 21. let alone 17.
Also there are no makor plot point going on right now. Everything is wrapped up. I think it would be better writing to progress the plot after a years time. Let the dust settle on whitebeard's death. You will see a greater impact in a year then you would see right now at this moment.
Plus it is going to take some time for the strawhats to reunite. They are scattered all over the world. I really dont want to see 50 chapters of their voyage to find raleigh.
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I want a big time skip. Luffy will be 21, I suspect.
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The only real advantage of having a time-skip is that after it, Blackbeard will be undoubtly considered a Younkou :wub:
But then we would lose all the adventures from the SH's till the end of the timeskip, unless the timeskip happens while Luffy is waiting for his crewmates and healing from the two healing hormones.
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Nami was sent far away, the fastest she will get there based on the anime is couple of weeks to months (hoping the former as it is enough).
Either way, time skip will happen, whether it's in the form of week to week or one huge skip.
edit: luffy already has one when he woke up and he will have another one when he leaves I think.
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It;s just anime, though.
Even if it's canon, I wonder how long it will take for Nami to learn about weather science. And how much she will learn. That guy has studied it for life (assuming so). And a girl came and learned it in a few months. -
To be fair, there's a difference between discovering and learning what has already been discovered, and no doubt Mr. Wizard over there has dedicated his life to discovery and innovation.
Nami learning the science of weather in a few months is no more preposterous than a high school student learning basic calculus in a relatively similar time
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To be fair, there's a difference between discovering and learning what has already been discovered, and no doubt Mr. Wizard over there has dedicated his life to discovery and innovation.
Nami learning the science of weather in a few months is no more preposterous than a high school student learning basic calculus in a relatively similar time
That is also my point. It still makes a lot of sense if it takes one or two years for her to get a phd in weather science. It's not history, it requires practice to be skilled, anh she needs to know how to fix the devices when they have problem. I know Nami-swan is a genius.
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But this stuff about Nami wasn´t in the manga that oda Wrote and drew.
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wonder what Oda told anime. Cause i was like a big WOAH when teh guy was like we moved like 100 meters or something super short distance in what was probably a few days if not a week total so far. of course he also said it depends on wind, so i imagine nami at some point will accelerate it.
but otherwise why woudl anime do something so big as saying 100 meters only and not like a few miles or somthing still seemingly small. I mean damn, the island could be like 100 miles away, you know how long that woudl take if it slowly goes there.
i wonder if this was a hint (if oda had that tiny detail told to anime) that we won't be joining all back up for a year or years. going to wait to see hwo the other storeis get told in anime and how soon it looks like their sailing time will come.
i'm sure i'll get bashed to hell bringing up anime here, but until manga proves these episodes events different, i'm going to assume they are cannon. And no don't bring up shit like franky was wearing different outfit in cover. doesn't matter what he is wearing, he ends up at lab just like in cover stories. the EVENTS are the same when influencing the manga.
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Nami was sent far away, the fastest she will get there based on the anime…
Either way, time skip will happen, whether it's in the form of week to week or one huge skip. Luffy already has one when he woke up and he will have another one when he leaves I think.
@JERK:
And seriously, "a few weeks" is not a time skip, so if you think that's the case just answer "no".
You shouldn't use the anime ever for manga discussion, one, and two, the opening post noted that a few weeks is not a time-skip, or at least not the type that is being discussed in this thread. kthnx.
Until the manga proves these episodes events different, I'm going to assume they are
. And no don't bring up shit like Franky was wearing different outfit in cover. Doesn't matter what he is wearing, he ends up at lab just like in cover stories. The EVENTS are the same when influencing the manga.You mean like when Zoro cut steel before Arabasta? Or when Zeff's leg was caught in the ship instead of, you know, used as food?
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You mean like when Zoro cut steel before Arabasta? Or when Zeff's leg was caught in the ship instead of, you know, used as food?
the zoro thing was in a filler arc, these are not filler arcs. these are canon cover stories being fleshed out. but also we didnt' konw like choppers rumble ball that it was wrong. But those are HUGE things compared to what the anime is doign right now. Nothing has been done that can be just insanely wrong that ruins a huge plot later.
and sure zeff's leg i dont' really care about. doesn't really matter if he ate his leg or it got ripped off in the rescue, the event was Sanji was given ALL the food by Zeff during their stranded days. Its that act, not how he lost his leg that matters. just like it doesn't matter how franky got to the lab, whether it was to fix himself up or if he was running from monsters and stumbled upon it, the important part is that he ends up there.
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Zeff's leg i don't' really care about. The event was Sanji was given ALL the food by Zeff during their stranded days. Its that act, not how he lost his leg that matters.
What matters is that Shanks saved Luffy from the Lord of the Coast. It doesn't matter that he lost his arm. I don't really care about his arm.
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What matters is that Shanks saved Luffy from the Lord of the Coast. It doesn't matter that he lost his arm. I don't really care about his arm.
your wording it wrong. yea i dont' care how shanks lost his arm saving luffy. he could have lost it from that sea king, from a bandit, from a fricken farm equipment.
the important part is that he sacrifised his arm to save luffy's life. just like zeff sacrifised his leg and his food to save sanji. doesn't matter how his leg or arm is sacrifised.
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The anime is completely 100% irrelevant.
It is an adaptation, a side-show, a distraction, a bit of fun for the audience while the real show is not on.
That's all it was, all it is, all it ever will be.
It has no place in this sort of discussion of real plot and character development whatsoever.And if you keep trying to bring it up I'll edit the OP to exclude it from discussion.
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This may sound pretty AGOG but whatever.
Blackbeard's height was just revealed to be exactly twice that of Luffy (172 cm vs 344 cm). Clearly intentional on Oda's part. Now his age was revealed to be 38, and to fit the pattern Luffy would have to be 19. Well what if this recently given information is actually situated after the time skip, and this is clear indication that it will be a two year skip?
Yeah perona for okama.
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No timeskip.
This Flashback must have an emotional answer.
If there is a time Luffy needs his crew the most it is now . He helped them so much and now it is their turn.
Nami will give him the straw hat back and ask him to promise her that he will pursue his dreams.
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I think that time-skipping is the lazy-mans tool, thats just bad story telling.
Image LOTR "so frodo walks from Shire and BAAAM hes in a mountain full of goblins and then BAM hes somewhere else and BAM hes in MT.Doom"
And since Oda is a great story teller, there should be no timeskip since hes to good for that. (Everyone that voted yes for timeskip is a twilight-fan…)
Please vote for Zoro and not a senior mutant non-hero turtle
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Technically, we just had a two week time-skip. That's, like, three or four years in One Piece time, right?
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I think that time-skipping is the lazy-mans tool, thats just bad story telling.
Image LOTR "so frodo walks from Shire and BAAAM hes in a mountain full of goblins and then BAM hes somewhere else and BAM hes in MT.Doom"
And since Oda is a great story teller, there should be no timeskip since hes to good for that. (Everyone that voted yes for timeskip is a twilight-fan…)
This may be the stupidest argument I've ever read in regards to this matter. What you've seen, if you've ever seen a timeskip (to be clear, in another manga), were bad timeskips. And head's up, Oda has already used timeskips in this manga, most recent one being the two-week skip where Luffy woke up from his coma.
What would be bad storytelling would be forcing the readers to watch Luffy slowly recover as no progress, on a whole, what-so-ever is being made. A VERY big part of writing is that you're never supposed to put in unnecessary shit. If it can be reasonably inferred then it's better to leave it as it is and write something more prevalent and worthy of attention.
What this thread is taking into consideration is that the events bypassed as a result of the timeskip are not major enough to warrant panel time but the events occurring after said timeskip DO. If it happens, I'll swear on my honor as a human being and as a man that you will not miss anything.
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I think that time-skipping is the lazy-mans tool, thats just bad story telling.
Image LOTR "so frodo walks from Shire and BAAAM hes in a mountain full of goblins and then BAM hes somewhere else and BAM hes in MT.Doom"
And since Oda is a great story teller, there should be no timeskip since hes to good for that. (Everyone that voted yes for timeskip is a twilight-fan…)
Moreover, Luffy is at its lowest point in the series. His crewmates have to be here because he lost his spirit.
When Nami was at her lowest point because Arlong betrayed her. The crew came. She wable to keep on living.
When Robin wanted to die. The crew came for an epic scene and proved she deserved to live.
The same could happen with Luffy.
I want to see Nami cheering and hugging Luffy while Hancock is powerless.
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I think that time-skipping is the lazy-mans tool, thats just bad story telling.
Okay this is pretty much the stupidest thing I've read all day. Surely the likes of Takehiko Inoue, Yukito Kishiro, and Kentaro Miura are awful, mediocre storytellers next to Oda right?
Oda will time-skip pretty soon from now, and there's nothing wrong with it.
@Mokke:Image LOTR "so frodo walks from Shire and BAAAM hes in a mountain full of goblins and then BAM hes somewhere else and BAM hes in MT.Doom"
Imagine Berserk "so Guts is sulking on a tree minding his own business and BAAAM THREE YEARS LATER he's in a castle full of soldiers and corpses".
Oh wait that happened. And in one of the greatest works the comic medium has ever seen, too.
And since Oda is a great story teller, there should be no timeskip since hes to good for that. (Everyone that voted yes for timeskip is a twilight-fan…)
Oda's been setting up a time skip for a good while now, it's pretty much confirmed. The only thing left to figure out is how long will it be.
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No larger timeskip is needed now, because we already had one. And with this flashback going on, it will probably skip a couple of weeks more. Then hoperfully the strawhats have all reunited.
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Personally I think the time skip would be the part of the training the crew went through. After Luffy flashback, they are going to magically meet up within a few days range. They will set off to FI and the new world. Once there, we will see some cool moves and flashback of them remembering the time they are away and what they learn before meeting back up and gladly Kuma did what he did in order for them to get stronger. Or… On the way to FI and New World they will be talking about their adventure and show us some flashback. That would be another cool concept and would fit in well.
Time jump shouldn't be more than 1 month. Luffy at this point is healed somewhat and all he need is to recover some more and then learn the ability of Haki and wait for Hancock to submit her ruling to the old short lady because she is now wanted by the government also and join his crew.
there cards belong to ray so itll lead them to where ray is and thats shanbody no where else.
if we take the travel from hq to amazon and the two week skip we got plus w.e. time may or not pass durning flash back plus time spebt training and the final trip back to sa will equate to more than a months time. which seems plenty in one piece world for them to all meet up if you take an express voyage. because remember every has a head start on their training than luffy by the time equaled to his original arrival on AL by kuma to our present time which in itself equals a few weeks.
no time skip is required. they are a crew who learns fundimentals quickly and applies details in battle. and as stated above, theyve all had ample time to learn what they needed. 2-4 months time by the time they meet
