You know, after getting really psyched during the "Total War" arc, I thought I'd bear with Oda a lot longer than this on Luffy-only focus.
And I could.
But BACKSTORIES. This is taking way too long.
You know, after getting really psyched during the "Total War" arc, I thought I'd bear with Oda a lot longer than this on Luffy-only focus.
And I could.
But BACKSTORIES. This is taking way too long.
I'm gonna look t things logically and say that Sabo's dead. For one, Oda has killed someone important in every single backstory except for luffy's first one and Sanji's. Zoro-Kuina, Nami-Bellemere, Usopp-His mom (what was her name?), chopper-Hililuk, Robin-Pretty much everyone, Franky-Tom, and Brooke-His Crew. Also when Luffy says Ace is his only brother, i think that pretty much sets it straight 'cuz Luffy would never forget or disown one of his brothers.
I don't think Luffy and Ace would stop thinking of him as their brother, even if Sabo did betray/do something horrible/cut ties with them. If he's not dead, I'm certain they think he is anyway. Luffy saying about Ace "He's the only brother I have in this world!" could also be interpreted like he's the only brother Luffy has left in this world.
I find it funny that Ace says "He won't run from anyone, he won't lose to anyone… " right after he lost 24 times to Sabo. Or was it 26, I think ace one the 26 but it was fairly even.
Alright.. time for some predictions about sabo's future (or present day).
1. He still became a noble but a rebelious type. Because nobility is everlasting.
2. He will become a true noble, the snobbish type. but a meeting with luffy or when he hears ace's death will made him reminiscing the past and became a pirate.
3. He is a pirate captain under an alias. i don't think he's gonna join SH because he may be stronger than luffy (or weaker). Either way, his pride won't let him be under luffy. Though he will be an ally, just like vivi or paulie.
4. He is a marine.
Considering all the options, Sabo will crosspath with luffy again. If not now, than latter.
This i'm pretty sure.
Alright.. time for some predictions about sabo's future (or present day).
1. He still became a noble but a rebelious type. Because nobility is everlasting.
2. He will become a true noble, the snobbish type. but a meeting with luffy or when he hears ace's death will made him reminiscing the past and became a pirate.
3. He is a pirate captain under an alias. i don't think he's gonna join SH because he may be stronger than luffy (or weaker). Either way, his pride won't let him be under luffy. Though he will be an ally, just like vivi or paulie.
4. He is a marine.
5. He is dead.Considering all the options, Sabo will crosspath with luffy again, if 5 doesn't end up being the outcome. If not now, than latter, or never.
This i'm pretty sure.
Fixed/updated that for you…
Alright.. time for some predictions about sabo's future (or present day).
1. He still became a noble but a rebelious type. Because nobility is everlasting.
2. He will become a true noble, the snobbish type. but a meeting with luffy or when he hears ace's death will made him reminiscing the past and became a pirate.
3. He is a pirate captain under an alias. i don't think he's gonna join SH because he may be stronger than luffy (or weaker). Either way, his pride won't let him be under luffy. Though he will be an ally, just like vivi or paulie.
4. He is a marine.Considering all the options, Sabo will crosspath with luffy again. If not now, than latter.
This i'm pretty sure.
5. He gets so disgusted at nobility he becomes a Revolutionary.
@Muda:
Fixed/updated that for you…
I don't think that sabo is dead. that's why I didn't predict it. Even though oda is on a killing spree, killing a kid is unacceptable. Quina is an exeption because it was an accident not homicide
@$abZ:
The weirdest thing that is in everyone's head right now is why there hasn't been a single mention of him up until the flashback, when he was a brother to Ace and Luffy.
Well again, this isn't quite true. Ace mentions Sabo by name in Chapter 574 assuming that the translation is accurate.
Uhhh…sorry if someone has brought this up or it is just a stupid idea...
But that tattoo on Ace's arm, with the S…
Do you think it was A for Ace and S for Sabo (and there was maybe going to be an L for Luffy later) but because something happened to Sabo he crossed it out? He doesn't have the tattoo here yet.
:/ I dunno. It kinda seems like something Oda would do, but could just be me overthinking things.
Does this mean Sabo is still alive? Sabo should have come and stop the war!
http://img-a.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000296502/10.jpg
second panel, first speech bubble.
Uhhh…sorry if someone has brought this up or it is just a stupid idea...
But that tattoo on Ace's arm, with the
S…
Do you think it was A for Ace and S for Sabo (and there was maybe going to be an L for Luffy later) but because something happened to Sabo he crossed it out? He doesn't have the tattoo here yet.
:/ I dunno. It kinda seems like something Oda would do, but could just be me overthinking things.
That could mean sabo is ace's nakama because X in luffy's world could mean Friendship. maybe that's where luffy got the idea of using X on Alabasta.I'm guessing Ace wanna show that sabo meant something to him but couldn't do so without exposing sabo as an associate with a pirate.
Just like luffy hitting Coby.
That could mean sabo died or he betrayed ace.
In all honesty, I think Oda made a mistake and spelled ASE, and had to cross it out. I think it was just a mistake.
Maybe Sabo is no longer Luffy's brother because he became… Luffy's Secret Lover!
More naked kid panels!
Maybe Sabo is no longer Luffy's brother because he became… Luffy's Secret Lover!
More naked kid panels!
16 chars of wat?
Been enjoying the last few chapters, finally some decent storytelling. The cover thingy with Magellan was pretty fun too.
Ah, so Luffy has / had a third brother…. Interesting.
So maybe Makino=mom?
BTW, is the female who changed their clothes/thought of Garp/got hearty-eyed guys looking at her, someone we should know? Made an even bigger appearance than Garp, as in as many panels as Dadan, so I'm thinking she's relevant and I just forgot who she is
Edit: Nm, someone posted above me at the same time with her name
So maybe Makino=mom?
She looks really young when Ace was a baby.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-000/page019.html
@WhiteEagle:
BTW, is the female who changed their clothes/thought of Garp/got hearty-eyed guys looking at her, someone we should know? Made an even bigger appearance than Garp, as in as many panels as Dadan, so I'm thinking she's relevant and I just forgot who she is
Edit: Nm, someone posted above me at the same time with her name
She's Makino. She's the bartender at the bar that Luffy ate his DF in.
sabo for newest crew member!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So maybe Makino=mom?
When Ace was a baby, Makino was shown as a kid in Strong world Chapter 0, so she is probably too young.
@Dan:
He probably boinked Luffy's baby mama half way across the world and she went there (someplace safe an quiet) to squeeze the little gaffer out.
I think Dragon was also raised in Windmill village, because apparently Woop
Slap knows who he is. I just wonder if Luffy's mom is also from the village, or did Dragon bring her there.
awesome chapter … can't wait for the next. XD
I know that this is a little late, but the reason ace has a crossed out S in his tatoo is the tatoo artists fault because he mispelled it.
And i was here hoping this part would put and end to all that "Sabo for Nakama" shit, somehow i just think people just don't want Boa and Jimbei anymore…
I know that this is a little late, but the reason ace has a crossed out S in his tatoo is the tatoo artists fault because he mispelled it.
No kidding? Next I suppose you'll tell us something crazy like Pell survives that explosion, or that Luffy wants to be King of the Pirates! Revelations abound!
No kidding? Next I suppose you'll tell us something crazy like Pell survives that explosion, or that Luffy wants to be King of the Pirates! Revelations abound!
Can you blame him!? With all the new revelations of 'S' standing for Sabo, it's easy to get lost nowadays…...
....amirite? no? meh...
Look at this page
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/558/12/
If you look carefully you can see 3 cups
Nice catch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/lord_darkstorm/sneakyoda.jpg
The cups are in the same arrangement too. I love little touches like this.
Well, I'll be damned. Oda is, without a shadow of a doubt, a master.
That was a friggin' great chapter. Loved seeing the silly adventures of those three. Fuckin' loled at the random Garp panels; saying "hi" then laying the smackdown immediately after. Made my day.
Hmm, I'm thinking the Tenryuubito will be responsible for the "Sabo gonna die" theory, if the theory becomes true, that is.
Thanks for the chapter, it is really nice!
The more I read of this flashback the more I like Sabo.
Hopefully we'll see him in the regular storyline. He must have been a really strong brat if he was en par with Ace …
And i was here hoping this part would put and end to all that "Sabo for Nakama" shit, somehow i just think people just don't want Boa and Jimbei anymore…
Totally true^^
But Sabo already has a deeper character, a longer flashback and more relationship to Luffy than Boa and Jinbei together xD
By the way, do you guys think an Admiral will escort the Tenryuubito who is about to arrive to Goa Kingdom? We know that one of the Admiral is called right away in case a Tenryuubito gets attacked by someone. When Luffy punched Charlos back in Shabondy, Kizaru managed to get there pretty fast. However, in this case, Goa Kingdom is far away from Marine HQ. So, it's safe to assume that said Tenryuubito will insist on having the protection of an Admiral in any case, right?
I think its safe to assume Kaidou will finally makes his appearance next chapter
I think its safe to assume Kaidou will finally makes his appearance next chapter
lol
16 characters
By the way, do you guys think an Admiral will escort the Tenryuubito who is about to arrive to Goa Kingdom? We know that one of the Admiral is called right away in case a Tenryuubito gets attacked by someone. When Luffy punched Charlos back in Shabondy, Kizaru managed to get there pretty fast. However, in this case, Goa Kingdom is far away from Marine HQ. So, it's safe to assume that said Tenryuubito will insist on having the protection of an Admiral in any case, right?
No. They're in East Blue. The weakest of all the blues. An admiral would laugh if they were asked to go. Sengoku could just tell them Garp is in the area. Maybe that's why he showed up during that montage.
Well the sabo incident apparently helped support Ace wanting to live like he said in chapter 574. Maybe he died and made Ace promise him to live his dream.
Sabo will be the ally of Luffy in the upcoming Tenryuubito arc, where Luffy rocks their foundations and destroys them. This should be in conjuction with the fishman island arc where slave trading will be a major theme.
Make it happen Oda!
Hey guys, something popped up in my head, Suppose that the Monkey family use to be rulers of Goa Kingdom long ago but were kicked out by the World Government unfairly to live a lowlife and is probebly why Dragon is at war with the WG? Pretty logical
Very good chapter! One Piece has done the rare thing and actually got me looking forward to the next flashback chapter! I expected Sabo to die pretty early on, but I'm glad there's MUCH more to it. The only thing that confused me was (going by the spoilers) I thought Sabo was supposed to be the son of a Tenryuubito, he's actually just a higher up noble… still, it must suck for him.
Oh and it was hilarious seeing luffy try to train his devil fruit powers, it never occured to me how difficult it might have been XD
@joekido the Second:
Hey guys, something popped up in my head, Suppose that the Monkey family use to be rulers of Goa Kingdom long ago but were kicked out by the World Government unfairly to live a lowlife and is probebly why Dragon is at war with the WG? Pretty logical
I don't see that as a logical reason for Dragon to want to take over countries and go to war with the World Government - if it was, it would be very anti-climactic. Anyway, imo Luffy's family don't seem the "royal" type!
This is definetely a chap for the OP geography thread and Greg ;)!
Thx, Urouge + Mangastream!
Sabo's father for nakama!
Good chapter. I really don't know which way this flashback going. XD
I love one piece!!!!!!!!!!! such an awesome chapter!
I say Sabo will die… Now way Luffy just say he only has one brother if another is out there
So Sabo isn't a Tenryuubito's child. But, interesting because he actually stated that he has a dream of writing a book of an around-the-world adventure, which of course, one can say that to accomplish it he has to reach Raftel. And of course to accomplish it, he doesn't have to be a captain. hint hint
Anyway, I'm not still not sold to the idea of Sabo for nakama. IMO he's too….normal, especially compared to the SH crew. But there is a slot for a writer to be on board, when Luffy finally conquers Grand Line, people will know the story of his journey, and believe me, it could easily be a best-seller. And who knows, maybe Shueisha will publish Sabo's book too, just to rip off some more money out of OP after the series end.
So Sabo isn't a Tenryuubito's child. But, interesting because he actually stated that he has a dream of writing a book of an around-the-world adventure, which of course, one can say that to accomplish it he has to reach Raftel. And of course to accomplish it, he doesn't have to be a captain. hint hint
Anyway, I'm not still not sold to the idea of Sabo for nakama. IMO he's too….normal, especially compared to the SH crew. But there is a slot for a writer to be on board, when Luffy finally conquers Grand Line, people will know the story of his journey, and believe me, it could easily be a best-seller. And who knows, maybe Shueisha will publish Sabo's book too, just to rip off some more money out of OP after the series end.
o_O He was near equal to Ace. He is a total bad-ass if he is still living.
Sabo will be awesome
Yes. I'm not doubting the awesome and bad-ass part. I just think that compared to the rest of the crew, Sabo is too normal, well. if Oda doesn't kill him off, he could end up eating a weird DF, weird enough to put him on par with the SH.
Just read the chapter… I'm starting to like Sabo's role... Will also be happy to know that he's alive so that Luffy can share his burden with regards to Ace's death... ^3^
So Sabo isn't a Tenryuubito's child. But, interesting because he actually stated that he has a dream of writing a book of an around-the-world adventure, which of course, one can say that to accomplish it he has to reach Raftel. And of course to accomplish it, he doesn't have to be a captain. hint hint
there have been some theories that these kinda panels of text is really somebody telling the story of luffy and his adventures and this is all one big flashback.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/576/16-17/
maybe sabo is the guy telling the story and he ended up going with luffy at some point and is now telling the story of the pirate king at some dive bar.
there have been some theories that these kinda panels of text is really somebody telling the story of luffy and his adventures and this is all one big flashback.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/576/16-17/
maybe sabo is the guy telling the story and he ended up going with luffy at some point and is now telling the story of the pirate king at some dive bar.
Now thats a twist, I personally don't like it. But if its true, we wouldn't know until the end of the series anyway, so I guess it wouldn't matter. Anyway, I'm still rooting for either Hancock or Jimbei for nakama :)