The cerberus zoan is not a confirmed fruit and nothing in the manga (aside from the confirmation of mythical zoans) suggests that it does exist. The entire theory banks its hopes on mounds of speculation and dismisses all manner of practical theory. Let me provide you the cerberus theory in a nutshell:
Your theory isnt confirmed either, so dont use that as a means of argument.
None of this has a base in the manga. The only thing that's confirmed is that mythical zoans exist and because they do, there might be a cerberus zoan but nothing in the manga thus far has pointed to the cerberus zoan, specifically, existing. Nothing in the manga thus far has confirmed that having more than one head is a viable way to avoid exploding.
Im guessing you havnt been reading the last few pages? If not id advise you to read up on the theory before making any rash statements.
Theres plenty of "base' from the manga that makes us believe the theory, if there wasnt, I wouldnt believe it.
once again, have you even read up on the theory? or have you skimmed a page or two?
@Uncle:
]Everything points to Blackbeard having used the darkness fruit in conjunction with his abnormality to acquire a second fruit. In this theory, there is only one unclear plot point: What is the abnormality?
Maybe a second and third head would be considered an abnormality?
Im sure if you saw somebody quickly do a minor transformation into something weird in the middle of a fight with a yonkou (maybe even thatch), you could consider that an abnormality.
@Uncle:
]In the cerberus theory, there are several unclear plot points: Why was Shiryuu worried?
Maybe Shiryuu didnt know that Teach had the cerberus fruit?
It would be completely plausible seeing as :
•Shiryuu has been a member for what, three hours?
•Shiryuu is ex warden of impel down.
•Shiryuu could probably rat out Teach's schemes to the government so he gets taken off of death row, or if he could get his position as warden back (which would be certainly possible, seeing as Magellan is out for a while)
•Blackbeard isnt going to reveal his deepest darkest secret to an ex-government dog.
@Uncle:
]Why is Blackbeard hiding the power?
Easy, so the government doesnt know how many abilities he can have.
At this point, im sure the government doesnt know how many abilities he can have, they're probably thinking the same thing as you –that he used his darkness ability--. At this point, the government will be scared shitless of Teach, which will make him insanely famous.
People will probably associate him as the man who killed Newgate (even though akainu did most of the damage).
On top of this, he has had no real need to use the ability, his darkness fruit has been more than enough for him to attain victory.
If he made the Cerberus ability public knowledge.
Read this quote from wisshard. VVVVVV
That point is groundless. We all know Blackbeard is prone to deception and inclined to hide his real power. His purpose to sail under Whitebeard was twofold. For starters (and the main reason), because the chances (according to Blackbeard) to find the Yami Yami fruit was higher there. And secondly, to hide in Whitebeard's shadow, avoid any attention to himself, while he searched for the Yami fruit and planned. He concealed his real fighting strength and his ambition to become Pirate King, so would it not be plausible that he would hide that he had the Cerberus fruit if he had it?
@Uncle:
Why is it called an abnormality when it's clearly a devil fruit?
It would be considered abnormal if nobody knew exactly what it was, if he did a minor transformation in his fight with shanks (and maybe thatch), and people only got a quick view of it, they would automatically think that theres something not normal about him. Which could easily be considered an abnormality, especially if you dont know much about it.
@Uncle:
Why doesn't Shanks know more about the attack that apparently scarred him permanently?
Ill answer with a quote. (read below)
Or maybe Blackbeard has a high mastery of his fruit and only did a minor transformation for a moment or two (since he wanted to conceal his real powers). That could possible also have been what caused Shanks the uneasy feeling about Blackbeard because he didn't see fully what it was, and that he was hiding his real powers. A (potential or current, whatever Shanks was at the moment of the fight)) Yonkou is very likely strong enough force Blackbeard to pull out all his tricks to survive.
In regards to the "loose ends", the former theory addresses everything in a neat manner:
- Luffy and Zoro meant "they" as in Blackbeard's crew
- The abnormality only allows him to hold two devil fruits
- The scar on Shanks could have been done by anything but since it wasn't as flashy as something like a devil fruit ability, he saw no concern in addressing the specifics of the attack
- Blackbeard's teeth missing is sloppy drawing on Oda's part (it's not a first)
Thats just as speculative as the cerberus theory, I can do the same thing if you want.
-Luffy and Zoro meant "they" as in Teach's other heads.
-The abnormality allows him to hold a total of three fruits, one for each head.
-The scar on Shanks could have been done by the claws of a Cerberus.
-Blackbeards teeth missing is intentional by Oda, to hint at Teach having more than one head.
Its all speculation, your stuff doesnt disprove my stuff, and my stuff doesnt disprove your stuff.
In regards to the "loose ends", the latter theory doesn't address shit in a neat manner but rather raises further questions:
- What other fruits can increase fruit capacity?
- Why didn't Shanks, a yonkou, describe the nature of the attack and can't sense the same thing Luffy and Zoro apparently can when he was hit directly by the devil fruit instead of just looking and having a strange feeling?
- Why was Shiryuu worried? (Why would the author write that in just to fuck with us?)
- Why did Blackbeard hide the fruit for 20+ years? What's the point?
- Why would Blackbeard switch his goddamn heads out if he's being so damn secret about this power?
- Why can Blackbeard hold two fruit powers (gura gura and yami yami) at the same time with only one head?
-No clue, nobody knows as of now.
-Maybe because it was a split second transformation, and he was surprised he got scared by a "nobody". Maybe he can sense the same thing, that would also explain his uneasiness towards teach.
-I answered earlier, read back if you need to.
-Once again, I answered this earlier.
-Maybe because people would think that his teeth and odd personality are just a screwup on Odas part :p. But seriously, probably because he knows people wouldnt notice.
-Because just that your zoan ability isnt active, doesnt mean the ability isnt alive within you. The sea-devil would still reside within you, regardless as to whether your using your ability or not.
[quote=Uncle Kenny;1596013
So you'll forgive me if I think this theory is a crock of shit. Please excuse what I, too, believe is needless swearing.
Your opinion is your opinion.
i could care less.
You may call me dad Kaminari.
Ever considered he put the devil fruit inside of his ring/bracelet? Why do you need to make over-complicated retarded theories. The 3 skulls have nothing to do with the Cerberus, and everything to do with the joining of 3 great pirates: Condent, England and Taylor - Teach, Shiryuu and Thatch.
okay, dad.
I actually thought about him putting it into his ring, but that would make the whole abnormality statement pointless, and as of now, we dont know enough about fusing devil fruits into items, only Zoans have been fused so far, and I dont see how a paramecia or logia could be fused with an object, it would be pretty weird.
To me, it makes more sense to believe Luffy and Zoro can relate those guys to this Blackbeard than to believe they can point out Blackbeard as being…what? Being 2, maybe 3 people? If the split personality idea is thrown out/out of the question now, why even refer to Blackbeard as "they"? Referring to his crewmates is the only possible reason now, right!? Unless you believe him having a Cerberus counts as seperate entities that require Luffy and Zoro to refer to him as "they"...but then even THAT wouldn't make sense since a Cerberus is still ONE entity...
If you had to talk to someone with three heads, you wouldnt refer to them as a single person. You would count them as multiple beings with the same body. Just that they have the same body doesnt mean that they're one person.
Well, since we all know that the Yami² consumes everything, maybe having another Logia fruit would be pointless since the Yami² is already a part of him, and thus would consume everything launched at him REGARDLESS if this other Logia he has would've allowed him to evade it.
what would stop it from "consuming" his quake ability aswell?
I can use that to argue the cerberus theory too – Since the cerberus theory is already part of him, he doesnt have to have the three heads active to use both of the fruits at the same time.--
Well, since Marco did say abnormal with regards to his BODY STRUCTURE, there's nothing theoretical about it. The only theoretical explanation would have to do with WHY his body structure is abnormal, NOT whether it was his body structure or not. Don't confuse the two.
When would you have had him take Ace's Logia? During the Banaro encounter? On Marineford?
Probably after Ace died, he couldve easily taken both Newgates and Aces fruit before flouting.
Him taking the time to waltz over to Ace's body and doing the same thing he did with Newgate would've been easy enough for him to do. He obviously didnt put any interest into taken Ace's fruit, although he couldve if he approached the whole situation with caution (which he did, until he got Newgates ability, then he got reckless).
Furthermore, Marco says even before that that it would be impossible for "normal humans" to have two DFs. So, Blackbeard's abnormal body structure was well-known within the WB crew even BACK then.
who says it was well known? maybe it was just a rumor that Teach had some type of abnormality.
How would having a Zoan fruit give him this "abnormal" body structure? I know someone else brought up this point somewhere, but wouldn't that also make every other Zoan user have "abnormal" body structures?
Sure it would, wouldnt you say that someone turning into a T-rex, or a phoenix, or a giraffe deems their body abnormal? You may not, but I definitely would consider that an abnormality, especially if you didnt know very much about it.
And if you wanna go down the road of "well his is mythical", why doesn't Marco make mention of BB having an abnormal body structure "like me"? I'd like to see you come up with an explanation on how this Cerberus zoan is unique in the idea that only IT and IT ALONE can give someone an abnormal body structure, unlike other Zoans…
I wont go down that road, because I think every zoan could be considered an abnormality.
The fact that it would give teach an extra two heads, an extra two "beings" inside of him, could consider him abnormal. Pretty much any fruit that turns you essentially into more than one person should be considered an abnormality.
Not really. If you read that chapter when it first came out, I'm sure people who read it put it together as Luffy and Zoro referring to his crewmates and NOT him. This Cerberus zoan theory only came into the limelight until WAY later! But yet, now that the Cerberus theory is in full swing, to say that Luffy and Zoro were referring to BB's crewmates is just as likely if not is a crock, especially if it came into being before Cerberus was even DREAMT upon.
I dont doubt they couldve easily been referring to his crew.
But the fact that it fits the cerberus theory perfectly, and grammatically they were referring to Teach as more than one person, leads me to believe that they were referring to him as more than one person.