I wasn't really trying to argue with you. I just quoted the first relevant thing I found to the discussion and weighed in.
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You're just distorting the facts to come to a biased conclusion. That's fallacy, you know.
I agree that under most circumstances they would never leave eachother behind, but under certain circumstances of course they would. They have. They did. As it is fiction, Oda can always bring them back together. The rest of your post I agree with.
I really have no clue what you are arguing with me about. AGOG said the crew would never leave someone behind like Jinbei did, which was in reference to what Urouge said about other members of the crew calling Luffy out when he is being stupid. I called AGOG out on that because Zoro did the same with Luffy about Usopp. He did. I then went on to explain that there is no identical situation, but there were tons of similar situations where they had to leave someone or something behind due to the circumstances. Urouge just reiterated my point. Hell, you seem to agree, and yet you are telling me I am distorting facts to reach a biased conclusion…what?
However, Jinbei says himself that he doesn't throw out compassion without having a whole hell of a lot of respect towards someone.
I think you are taking it a little out of context. Jinbei said that in this world of piracy, he doesn't help just anyone. He's not some heartless, selfish jerk who only helps people he feels like. Bon-chan is no pirate, and they were all in that escape effort together. The fact that Bon-chan was willing to sacrifice himself for everyone else would have instantly earned Jinbei's respect.
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And this situation was all Bon Kurei's doing. No, they're not exactly the same, but nowhere in the manga can I identify a situation like what Jinbei was in that was handled differently by the crew. So the whole "they're not exactly the same" bit works both ways.
In fact, there have been many cases of "go ahead and I'll take care of this" in general. I would say that Luffy vs Aokiji was an equally dire situation. I know they didn't intend to leave him behind, but as I said, there is no perfect parallel.
However, Jinbei says himself that he doesn't throw out compassion without having a whole hell of a lot of respect towards someone.
If he saw a small bird in his way, it just wants to eat, the man wouldn't go and help it out, he'd continue… Unless, of course, Jinbei was lying out of his ass and just spoke nonsense... Otherwise, Jinbei has stated that he isn't going to willingly help people in need. That act is something that the SH crew share together, they willingly help people in dire need/ need.
Zoro could have been like the other Supernova and just left the guy there bleeding to death after being shot, but he didn't. Jinbei would have left that guy dying there because he willingly doesn't do that, so he says.
So, that's the counter against what Jinbei stated of himself... The other SH crew members that are on the crew all have helped before even meeting Luffy, however, if Jinbei doesn't hold the same values and feels different about something, then chances are that he will probably do the same confrontation that Usopp had with Luffy eventually.
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They left Water 7 for Enies Lobby "without" Usopp. They left Water 7 for Fishman Island "without" Usopp. The fact the he came back as Sogeking and then came back kicking and screaming apologies doesn't change the fact that they left.
they left them there, but that situation is a little different cause they didn
t leave him behind forever and it was for the sake of robin..they hadn
t time to think about something else..it was necessary to do it quick.
Beside that they were aware that they would come back again to water7 (they still had no ship and also there belongings still were there) ..
also usopp was at that moment not in trouble or needed help and even than he made clear that they should go differnet ways and luffy isnt the guy who wouldn
t respect a wish like that.
and clearing that issue was still possible after saving robin so i don`t see why the crew leave him "behind" …
it sounds like you would say they leave there nakama back there without further thinking about him and without the chance to meet again.Originally Posted by Deicide
_Luffy would never leave a friend behind, be him nakama or not.HOWEVER, Bon Kurei's situation was different because he volunteered to be left behind. It was a self-sacrifice, it's not like Bon Kurei was abandoned. Jimbei did not say "hey, you faggot, go die for us while we escape"; Bon Kurei was the one who came up with the plan.
So, no one can say Jimbei's heartless because he "left Bon Kurei behind". That's stupid bullshit._
_it already was a simiular situation back in alabasta..there bon-chan also sacrificed himself cause he wanted it.
here luffy had the chance to stop bon-chan, but bon-chan said he would do that for them cause of his behaviour before and he wasn`t to hold from doing so..than at ID he sacrifced himself without telling anyone besides jinbei..
it was again bon-chans wish that luffy knows about that before they
re save and when jinbei would have stopped him of doing this they all would be trapped ..
jinbei sure was not glad with that, but it was only bon-chans decision and i think jinbei respected that bon-chan wanted to do that for his friends..
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I really have no clue what you are arguing with me about. AGOG said the crew would never leave someone behind like Jinbei did, which was in reference to what Urouge said about other members of the crew calling Luffy out when he is being stupid. I called AGOG out on that because Zoro did the same with Luffy about Usopp. He did. I then went on to explain that there is no identical situation, but there were tons of similar situations where they had to leave someone or something behind due to the circumstances. Urouge just reiterated my point. Hell, you seem to agree, and yet you are telling me I am distorting facts to reach a biased conclusion…what?
Well, maybe I just misunderstood your line: "I'm sure there are many more examples of similar situations, since Bon-chan isn't a crewmember and was just a friend." In my mind, it sounded like "He's not nakama, so we can leave him behind", so I replied that "Luffy leaves no friend behind, be it nakama or not".
When I say that the crew would not leave someone behind, I say it in the sense of "screw those losers! I'm out of here!". You know, like Buggy always does. Or like Buggy's crew did to him. One thing is to turn tail and abandon your friends in the face of danger. Another is for one of these friends to willingly stay behind to hold the line.
But it seems we all agree here. I just misunderstood your position.
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When I say that the crew would not leave someone behind, I say it in the sense of "screw those losers! I'm out of here!".
Well of course. My comment about Bon-chan not being a crewmember was meant to show that we can broaden the field of examples to include friends and allies, since AGOG seemed to have limited the examples to crewmembers ("nakama") specifically. Anyway, what's for dinner? I'm starving.
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It's still there… Jinbei doesn't suggest that he's going to follow the same sort of idealism concerning compassion.
Well of course. My comment about Bon-chan not being a crewmember was meant to show that we can broaden the field of examples to include friends and allies, since AGOG seemed to have limited the examples to crewmembers ("nakama") specifically. Anyway, what's for dinner? I'm starving.
I guess I worded it incorrectly, my apologies…
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Do you have some weird idea that everyone on the crew is a totally selfless saint that will do anything to help a stranger?
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Do you have some weird idea that everyone on the crew is a totally selfless saint that will do anything to help a stranger?
Zoro taking that guy who was shot to the hospital does come to mind.
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It's still there… Jinbei doesn't suggest that he's going to follow the same sort of idealism concerning compassion.
It may be part of his character.
I don't really see it as a barrier for him joining. Maybe his past hardened his heart and he could re-learn about compassion with the crew.
For someone who really wants a villain (Perona) to join, you should consider that possibility.
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You guys really interpret Jinbei's line in an interesting way. Jinbei has been shown on more than one occasion to be a peaceful fishman. He wanted to stop the war to protect Fishman Island and the other islands under Whitebeard's protection. He hates pirates. He's respectful to certain humans, as well as other fish of the ocean. This is unique to him, per Crocodile and Jinbei himself. His comment in this chapter was more about Luffy being a pirate than Jinbei not helping people he doesn't respect. What Jinbei said reflects the crew's ideals pretty well, in fact:
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His comment in this chapter was more about Luffy being a pirate than Jinbei not helping people he doesn't respect.
Well, I only read Binktopia's version, so maybe other translations could make me think otherwise, but it seemed to me like Jimbei's "keeping to his people". Damn, I don't know the right english expression, but his line ("In the world of pirates I don't lend a hand, nor do I protect men that I don't take interest in"), added to his nickname ("Yakuza of the Sea"), seemed like a mafia-mentality.
You know, protect family, keep friends close, but don't give a damn to outsiders.
I may be reading too much, of course.
Are there other translations to that micro-flashback?
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Are there other translations to that micro-flashback?
Aohige_AP's translation is in the first post of the chapter thread. As a huge OP fan with great English he is probably one of the best translators to reference. Else wait for CNET's translation for another cross reference.
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Well, I only read Binktopia's version, so maybe other translations could make me think otherwise, but it seemed to me like Jimbei's "keeping to his people". Damn, I don't know the right english expression, but his line ("In the world of pirates I don't lend a hand, nor do I protect men that I don't take interest in"), added to his nickname ("Yakuza of the Sea"), seemed like a mafia-mentality.
You know, protect family, keep friends close, but don't give a damn to outsiders.
I may be reading too much, of course.
Are there other translations to that micro-flashback?
Aohige's translation (which is the best available currently, most likely) is as follows:
Jinbei: I hate to say this, Ace… but you're overestimating me. I'm not that kind a person...
Even if he is your brother, this is a world of piracy.
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Aohige's translation (which is the best available currently, most likely) is as follows:
Jinbei: I hate to say this, Ace… but you're overestimating me. I'm not that kind a person...
Even if he is your brother, this is a world of piracy.
The only one I would lend my hands to is the one I respect myself.The meaning is almost the same.
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Well, ok, I was just giving you the translation because you asked for it.
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i just looked the "Who will be the next Strawhat?" options above…
and some of the choices are absolutely childish!
i understand why there is jinbei, boa, blah~blah~but come on!
"Lady Crocodile"??? just who tells there is a "Lady Crocodile" exist in the manga?"Boa Mancock"??? is this some sort sexual related option????
and there you go "Cindry"….
for those of you who don't know... that "Cindry" is a long dead corpse, and that corpse is a option for next SH?.... puke!"Spandams Shoes".... Spandams is a absolute villain! and where the fuck does shoes come from????
"Montblanc Norland"..... that guy is history already~ my god!
finally "Dr. Black Beard" just when does bb became a doctor? and goddamn he is a absolute villain!
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If nothing else, the poll is an excellent barometer of who on this forum can't take a joke.
@sheng:
finally "Dr. Black Beard" just when does bb became a doctor? and goddamn he is a absolute villain!
Dr. Blackbeard is no villain… how dare you besmirch his good name!
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LMAO Montblanc Norland will be the new crew mate!!!…..
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He will be kicked out of the position and replaced by no other than Spandam's Shoes…. :ninja:
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@sheng:
i just looked the "Who will be the next Strawhat?" options above…
and some of the choices are absolutely childish!
i understand why there is jinbei, boa, blah~blah~but come on!
"Lady Crocodile"??? just who tells there is a "Lady Crocodile" exist in the manga?"Boa Mancock"??? is this some sort sexual related option????
and there you go "Cindry"….
for those of you who don't know... that "Cindry" is a long dead corpse, and that corpse is a option for next SH?.... puke!"Spandams Shoes".... Spandams is a absolute villain! and where the fuck does shoes come from????
"Montblanc Norland"..... that guy is history already~ my god!
finally "Dr. Black Beard" just when does bb became a doctor? and goddamn he is a absolute villain!
Well, I dunno about Spandam's Shoes, but Ivankov says that Crocodile has a "secret" so people were immediately like, "omg fem!croc lolz" and Boa Mancock is the fan name for the genderbent version of Hancock. (see the genderbender thread for more info)
And Dr. Blackbeard appears on one cover as part of the mini-story "Ace's Great Blackbeard Search". Ace mistakes a random doctor named Blackbeard for Teach.
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Dr. Black Beard reached 50 votes so he can join now. =]
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Dr. Black Beard reached 50 votes so he can join now. =]
Baaaaaka!! you need hundred votes to join, everyone knows that!!!
And Jimbei's line: I've decided to protect this man… Is this referring to right now like every other WB pirate keeps saying or is this since ace asked me to protect him and I finally realized I respect him so I will be sailing with him and keep protecting him kinda thing???
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And Jimbei's line: I've decided to protect this man… Is this referring to right now like every other WB pirate keeps saying or is this since ace asked me to protect him and I finally realized I respect him so I will be sailing with him and keep protecting him kinda thing???
16 chars of Hopefully.
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Since Blackbeards crew has acquired new members of such high standing (Level 6 Prisoners) I am a lot more comfortable about the Shikibukai joining the Strawhats. I think there's room for both Jinbei and Boa Hancock at this point. If both of the Shiki join it helps Luffys crew raise their reputation in the world against the new terror that is the Blackbeard pirates.
We can see Jinbei feels responsible for Luffy but also respects him deeply, he's officially renounced his title so he's looking for a job. Boa has that whole love thing going for her. The biggest problems with her are the haxibility of her powers and her island. I think with the WG/Marines being as chaotic as they are right now a small island like AL won't be a priority if they do survive. It's been a while since we've seen Boa in the manga, perhaps she'll do something stupid like try fight Akainu to delay him. If he lava bitch slaps her and leaves her looking like Balalaika she might find it a little tougher to entrance large audiences and stone them to death.
I think the "haki is too good" argument against Boa is really shortsighted. The strawhat fighters will all learn haki at some point. Luffy has his hakshoku but it's on a whole new level. Zoro will get a darker version relating to his killing intent, rather then his willpower. Ussopp witnessed Hercules-un throwing ordinary leaves through things so he'll probably try to power up his shots. Its something people who are strong have. Everyone in the crew will be strong someday, really really strong.
This is the crew of the pirate king, anything less wouldn't be enough.
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Baaaaaka!! you need hundred votes to join, everyone knows that!!!
And Jimbei's line: I've decided to protect this man… Is this referring to right now like every other WB pirate keeps saying or is this since ace asked me to protect him and I finally realized I respect him so I will be sailing with him and keep protecting him kinda thing???
I was under the impression that 50 was the new 100.
When spandam's shoes hit 50 someone said they could join. :'(
Was this not part of the contractual clause? :D
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As for the latest chapter
[hide]JINBEI BETTER NOT JOIN [/hide]
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This chapter is really a big forshadowing for Jinbei joining the crew. Come one people you can't deny it. And we will see FI and his story with Luffy the next arc. He lost his status, WB is dead and he can't protect FI on his own. So he has nowhere to go. Now the whole flashback Ace stuff. I think we can say he is in for 80 %
Now people who are complaining about several things.
Too strong
At least Luffy, Zoro and Sanji will be near his level or even above after power-ups. And it has a reason why his bounty (even if not = strenght) is below Luffy's. The captain would be still the greatest thread for the marines
He would destroy the dynamic of the monster trio
This is totally a fandom thinking. Yeah this 3 are the strongest one but has it to be that way forever? No… Just because some think Jinbei would be MAYBE stronger than their favourite character they are afraid. Nothing would change... Zoro would still have his rivaly with Sanji all the time and we only would get another big powerhouse who is on par with them.
Too boring and serious
Hello? We are in a freaking war! Garp, Ace and even Luffy didn't make their comedy stuff as well but you complaining Jinbei hasn't show it. Robin hasn't shown anything before joining or even EL. and look now. FI is near and in time of peace he can show more personality. Boa is saying as well all the time… OH luv U Luffy and no one is complaining
Too big
Well nothing about that. He isn't that big and look at freaking San Juan. And fixing doors wouldn't be that much of a problem. And maybe that would be his comedy stuff. Too fat and Franky complaining destroying his damn doors xD
Seriously Jinbei has by far chances the most chances. Boa completely dissapeared and even was standing still with the marines after she "betrayed" them. Her story for joining would be far to complicated with AL and all that stuff. And I doubt she would join with that matter cleared off-screen. Why should Oda mention the threat of an attack and than suddenly say it won't happen even after Boa betrayed them? And going to AL once again would be shit and would stop the stroy to move on finally
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Yes Jimbei keeps repeating what he wants to die of course he is too BORING. He will just be with Luffy till they get to Fishmen island.
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I will admit that the chances of Jinbei joining just went up by a lot, and as much as I'm against him I think that's saying something.
The flashbacks of Jinbei saying he doesn't take to men he's not interested in. Really made it seem like he's not going to help you at all unless he likes you and respects you a lot.
Then, he have him there carrying Luffy and even standing in front of Akainu quite willing to put everything on the line to keep him away from Luffy.
It's pretty hard to deny at this point. He's going to be around for quite awhile with the Arlong story and FI coming up.
The one thing that makes me iffy now tho is why didn't Luffy ask him to join or say you should join my crew, when they were on the boat on the way to Marineford.
He usually makes this pretty clear up front when he wants someone to join but I guess it could be related the current circumstances.
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How many more chapters till Jinbei's rotating on Akainus spit?
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I will admit that the chances of Jinbei joining just went up by a lot, and as much as I'm against him I think that's saying something.
The flashbacks of Jinbei saying he doesn't take to men he's not interested in. Really made it seem like he's not going to help you at all unless he likes you and respects you a lot.
Then, he have him there carrying Luffy and even standing in front of Akainu quite willing to put everything on the line to keep him away from Luffy.
It's pretty hard to deny at this point. He's going to be around for quite awhile with the Arlong story and FI coming up.
The one thing that makes me iffy now tho is why didn't Luffy ask him to join or say you should join my crew, when they were on the boat on the way to Marineford.
He usually makes this pretty clear up front when he wants someone to join but I guess it could be related the current circumstances.
He didn't ask Franky or Robin right away as well. But his reaction over Jinbei after he summoned his whale sharks are more than enough. And he told him more than once that he is awesome.
And look how they both only watched each other into the eyes and Luffy knows. Yeah he is a good guy. His introduction remembered me a bit of Zoro's in the past
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There's at least one thing that still makes me wary of Jimbei joining: would he really put himself under command of Luffy? He certainly respects Luffy, but is that enough for him to follow Luffy? I still don't get the feeling that he would play underling to another man. He respected Whitebeard, but he was not a whitebeard pirate, for example.
Hancock may have a similar problem, but she has expressed the desire to "go with Luffy wherever he goes".
Well, ok, I was just giving you the translation because you asked for it.
And I thank you.
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There's at least one thing that still makes me wary of Jimbei joining: would he really put himself under command of Luffy? He certainly respects Luffy, but is that enough for him to follow Luffy? I still don't get the feeling that he would play underling to another man. He respected Whitebeard, but he was not a whitebeard pirate, for example.
Hancock may have a similar problem, but she has expressed the desire to "go with Luffy wherever he goes".
And I thank you.
I have no doubts. Even Zoro is putting himself under command of Luffy.
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I can only see Jimbei joining temporarily…and Hancock not joining.
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Cuz you don't like him^^
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I have no doubts. Even Zoro is putting himself under command of Luffy.
Zoro was a loner, he agreed to follow Luffy when Luffy saved him and he has a dream that he can fullfil by traveling with Luffy.
Jimbei's case is a little different. Granted, we don't know if he has a dream, so I can't argue about that, but he's a powerful pirate who (at least in the past) commanded his own crew, and he's the one who's saving Luffy's life.
I agree with others that if his reason to join is to protect Luffy, it'll feel weird. While this chapter may have developed Jimbei more, there's still little reason for him to actually go with the crew.
The poll should start from Zero one agian xD
I'd like to see a serious poll actually.
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Zoro was a loner, he agreed to follow Luffy when Luffy saved him and he has a dream that he can fullfil by traveling with Luffy.
Jimbei's case is a little differente. Granted, we don't know if he has a dream, so I can't argue about that, but he's a powerful pirate who (at least in the past) commanded his own crew, and he's the one who's saving Luffy's life.
I agree with others that if his reason to join is to protect Luffy, it'll feel weird. While this chapter may have developed Jimbei more, there's still little reason for him to actually go with the crew.
I'd like to see a serious poll actually.
First of all… He has no crew anymore as it seems. If he would have one the have joined WB in this war. And btw Brook had a crew as well, that giant was a capitan and still joined Law and so on.
Jinbei is a loner as well. Even in his flashback fight against Ace there was no crew.
And the dream he can have and the reason will happen at FI cuz no one can doubt he will have a role there.
And with your reasons a Boa joining is even far less happening than a Jinbei joining. Boa is a powerful pirate empress and has a whole island under her command which she can't leave without risking an attack.
Jinbei can't protect FI alone... If he could WB hadn't to protect it in the past. Now WB is dead and chaos is coming once again
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Just wait next chapter when Boa turns Aoki to stone and gets frozen while doing so. The pirates will then take her with them to de-freeze and the marines will think she died :) she can then join the strawhats while in some disguess (would love to see Hancock in some casual clothing :) )
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Boa can pass the sea to follow Luffy. Credit to Aokiji.
If she can't leave her super-haki-tribe-island for a reason.
I prefer she ordered Marguerite to follow Luffy.
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These are the ways Jinbei could join, given the foreshadowing in this chapter 577, and my points of view regarding the matter:
Thesis 1 - Jinbei joins to protect Luffy.
Anti-thesis - The captain would no longer be the strongest crew member. Balance destroyed.Thesis 2 - Luffy grows stronger than Jinbei, then he joins.
Anti-thesis - If Jinbei was up for this, he would've joined Whitebeard ages ago.Thesis 3 - Jinbei joins to honor Ace's last will, regardless of strenght.
Anti-thesis - There's still no meaning with it, other than protecting Luffy. Jinbei would be the weighing stone of the crew, trying to stop Luffy from doing anything all the time and being a major bore. When he still fails, he'll help out, all the while saying "I have to protect the captain, even if I die in the process." This would become dull rather soon if serious and Oda would never make this a running gag, given his view on death. Besides, the strenght-issue wouldn't be over-looked.Thesis 4 - Jinbei joins to protect Luffy and watches him grow stronger until the captain is once again the strongest.
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I've been pretty conviced that Hancock would join but then again, last few chapters have make me think that it's even more likely that Jimbei will join. I still believe that both of them have chances to become a part of SHs but I doubt that Oda would put two person to join Strawhats same time (especially since Brook joined just a short time before SH's getting separated and he hasn't yet got so close relationship to other SHs (or readers)).
So I guess Jimbei > Hancock - These two are most likely to join. Then wild card to join could be Mr.3 - he's not that powerful but he's very smart as we saw when he managed to sneak on the execution platform - I think Nami is really the only "bright one" on SH crew so I think an intelligent member could be useful.
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I've been pretty conviced that Hancock would join but then again, last few chapters have make me think that it's even more likely that Jimbei will join. I still believe that both of them have chances to become a part of SHs but I doubt that Oda would put two person to join Strawhats same time (especially since Brook joined just a short time before SH's getting separated and he hasn't yet got so close relationship to other SHs (or readers)).
So I guess Jimbei > Hancock - These two are most likely to join. Then wild card to join could be Mr.3 - he's not that powerful but he's very smart as we saw when he managed to sneak on the execution platform - I think Nami is really the only "bright one" on SH crew so I think an intelligent member could be useful.
Usopp, Sanji, Robin?
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Usopp, Sanji, Robin?
Well, Robin is smart, and Usopp is good inventing stuff, but I was now refering different type of intelligent here. Robin is a book smart - she knows lots of stuff because it's written on a book, but what about fighting situations? In Little garden we saw how close Zoro, Vivi and Nami were to die on Mr 3's candle wax even he was obviously a lot weaker than Zoro. And, we saw how he managed to put the explosives to the rum to weaken other of the giants (can't remember whether it was Dorry or Brogy). Mr. 3 would made a great tactician to the SH's, it could be useful against the WG.
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There's at least one thing that still makes me wary of Jimbei joining: would he really put himself under command of Luffy? He certainly respects Luffy, but is that enough for him to follow Luffy? I still don't get the feeling that he would play underling to another man. He respected Whitebeard, but he was not a whitebeard pirate, for example.
Hancock may have a similar problem, but she has expressed the desire to "go with Luffy wherever he goes".
Seriously, I believe if Luffy asked him to join, Jimbei's decision would be based on what happens when he gets back to FI. If things are bad, Jimbei would probably stay there as opposed to joining. I think with the way things have gone in this war, Jimbei has enough respect for Luffy to be willing to follow him if he wanted. He didn't go with Whitebeard because he had his own crew. That's not exactly the case anymore since he disbanded his crew when he became a shichibukai.
Actually, I'm still on the fence for whether I want Jimbei to join or not. But on one hand, he would be a good influence for Luffy…at least he can get him to think before he acts. He already stopped Luffy from wasting time fighting BB when they were still at ID. And he helped him see the logic of not going back for Bon Clay. (cuz we all know Luffy would've turned around and gone back...which would've been a bad thing).
As for Hancock, she may have expressed that desire, but she also expects to remain a shichibukai. If that's the case, being with Luffy isn't an option. Besides, I just can't see her with the SH's. She'd be the biggest distraction ever. Sanji would be unbearable. Hancock would be ready to turn every man to stone except Luffy. She'd consider Robin and Nami threats to her and Luffy. And Chopper would end up getting kicked into the water like she does to every other pet. No thanks...
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Seriously, I believe if Luffy asked him to join, Jimbei's decision would be based on what happens when he gets back to FI. If things are bad, Jimbei would probably stay there as opposed to joining. I think with the way things have gone in this war, Jimbei has enough respect for Luffy to be willing to follow him if he wanted. He didn't go with Whitebeard because he had his own crew. That's not exactly the case anymore since he disbanded his crew when he became a shichibukai.
Actually, I'm still on the fence for whether I want Jimbei to join or not. But on one hand, he would be a good influence for Luffy…at least he can get him to think before he acts. He already stopped Luffy from wasting time fighting BB when they were still at ID. And he helped him see the logic of not going back for Bon Clay. (cuz we all know Luffy would've turned around and gone back...which would've been a bad thing).
As for Hancock, she may have expressed that desire, but she also expects to remain a shichibukai. If that's the case, being with Luffy isn't an option. Besides, I just can't see her with the SH's. She'd be the biggest distraction ever. Sanji would be unbearable. Hancock would be ready to turn every man to stone except Luffy. She'd consider Robin and Nami threats to her and Luffy. And Chopper would end up getting kicked into the water like she does to every other pet. No thanks...
I dont care, Boa is hawt, boa is the best. 3 hot chicks on a boat VOTE!!!.
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sighs Just like a man…
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YEah it's true xD, But its really time for more girls, coz all the OP fangirls have so many boys to talk about, and we boys got robin and nami, thats NUTHING!!!. so BOA common oda u can do it, I KNOW U WANT TO DRAW THE CURVES OF BOA ALL URE LIVE!! please:P
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YEah it's true xD, But its really time for more girls, coz all the OP fangirls have so many boys to talk about, and we boys got robin and nami, thats NUTHING!!!. so BOA common oda u can do it, I KNOW U WANT TO DRAW THE CURVES OF BOA ALL URE LIVE!! please:P
LOL!
So that means we'd have to deal with 3 females who's boobs grow a full size with every arc?
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Jimbei Joined the Shikibukai to add another layer of WG protection to Fishman Island (other than WB), the Will he /won't he comes down to 2 questions:
Is fishman island safe?
Is there another cool person around during Fishman island?