No one in the main characters will die on Marineford arc
Whitebeard, Ace, Admirals, Luffy and sichibukai's.
the whole island will collapse thus giving them the chance to rescue ace.
and the arc is over,
luffy's bounty will increase, and will be residing with Rayleigh at SA, teaching him how to control his haki, though rayleigh wont really teach him anything besides gambling (haha)
just a prediction LOL!
where is marineford? not mariejoa, but where are the two in relation to each other. ive known in the back of my head the two are different places but for some reason i have still thought of them as one. can someone please help me distinguish between the two?
why do people think WB will survive since he was already in poor health before the war seeming he was on oxygen and intravenous fluids and since the war shot and stabbed multiple time i just can't see him surviving all these thing but i can see him sacrificing himself for his crew to escape
by sacrifice, i hope you mean; get sent to impel down. to LEVEL 6! buggy needs more action in this war
where is marineford? not mariejoa, but where are the two in relation to each other. ive known in the back of my head the two are different places but for some reason i have still thought of them as one. can someone please help me distinguish between the two?
i could of sworn on another thread some one posted a link to a pic that showed their approximate location…so happy hunting lol
Brennen, the Shichibukai title allows him to bypass the Fishman Island as well… I would think that he would hold onto it until at least he passes that portion of the Red Line.
Unless, he would head through FI alone and completely destroy it, which would introduce Jinbei [who shouldn't die in the war] a reason to despise him and eventually travel towards the future to see him…
Of course, if he does this sort of thing, you could reckon it seems unlikely and such… However, I do think that he will take the "higher" passage since Luffy seems to take the adventurous routes and such, BB just takes the more practical, safer paths in my opinion.
I think that BB will hold onto his title or at least make an effort to keep it until he officially re-enters the NW again with a crew of personal.
In addition, he lacks his own ship at the moment, he would need to get one in order to coat that ship and head under the sea. It'd be more reasonable for him to remain a Shichibukai and just casually cross the Red Line through the World Government Capital and gain his ship there.
BB will not be able to hold onto his Shichibukai title after the war (unless he turns up half way through), because he was a no show.
So im thinking that he is using the war to try and take out WB or the Marines, and at the same time use it as a distraction for something more important.
BB will not be able to hold onto his Shichibukai title after the war (unless he turns up half way through), because he was a no show.
So im thinking that he is using the war to try and take out WB or the Marines, and at the same time use it as a distraction for something more important.
That's why I think he will show up, unless he goes and attacks the Holy Capital just to get across…
I think he will just use it to take out WB, just that.
where is marineford? not mariejoa, but where are the two in relation to each other. ive known in the back of my head the two are different places but for some reason i have still thought of them as one. can someone please help me distinguish between the two?
Marineford is an island, probably man made. While Mariejoa is on top of the Redline not far away.
Here's the picture.
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
Thank you for the map I needed that also!
why do people think WB will survive since he was already in poor health before the war seeming he was on oxygen and intravenous fluids and since the war shot and stabbed multiple time i just can't see him surviving all these thing but i can see him sacrificing himself for his crew to escape
Cuz nobody ever dies in One Piece :ninja:
i think that why he was reiterating the whole point about how he not going to show death and love in his manga was because he is going to show these thing in this arc but only in this arc and don't expect to see it in future arcs
and no one falls in love in one piece but oh wait hancock fell in love anything can happen once
It's obvious WB wont die in marineford arc
he will die because of his age
everyone will survive in marineford arc,
WB will cause an earthquake which will split the island into small pieces thus giving them chance to escape and rescuing ace.
and that's it, 3 bases of marine will go down and only 1 will remain..
thus giving the 3 remaining yonkou's the power to move. ( cause the other 1 was Gol D.Roger )
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Not necessarily. I mean, yes, he certainly believed he would find Luffy again, but I don't think he pinned all his hopes on Luffy specifically. It was just, as he says, fate that would lead them back to each other. Them hearing about Luffy on Water 7 was their supposed "proof" of said fate. Either way, it doesn't really matter.
Another point of why it was fate, but why he was specifically targeting Luffy, is that he said when confronting Luffy in Impel Down that he found out Luffy was the one who beat Crocodile. So what better way to become a Shichibukai then beat the one who defeated the former Shichibukai. So I'm assuming he found this out after Jaya but before he ran into Ace. So another reason of it being fate is that he just happened to run into a 100 million bounty who is also the one who took out Crocodile. Or it's a mistranslation.
2147483647 of you were wrong :P
turns out i was the only wrong one :sad:
Dude's made out of fire!
It's a bullet made of water then. Geez, use your imagination.
It's a bullet made of water then. Geez, use your imagination.
Okay, ace'll whither for a moment where the bullet landed
and he'll rise again because technically….. it doesn't matter when you're a logia.
......Then again, if it were Seastone that would've hurt him a lot.
A Logia can still get killed by a regular bullet if they're are not in their elemental form.
However, most of them have their body trained to change on contact to defend themselves.
Still you could probably get one if they fell asleep. wink wink xD
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A Logia can still get killed by a regular bullet if they're are not in their elemental form.
However, most of them have their body trained to change on contact to defend themselves.
Still you could probably get one if they fell asleep. wink wink xD
The logia defence probably works automatically.
Learning the secret technique of the engrish, forgive me, grammar gods!!!
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2147483647 of you were wrong :P
It ain't over yet… Death comes natural, so don't feel like the number of voters made a wrong vote yet. For all we know, BB could show up and change Ace into a dining hall decoration. Which I don't know who would want that.
The logia defence probably works automatically.
Not necessarily. If I recall correctly, Crocodile said he had trained himself to turn into sand as a reflex. Anyone who didn't train themselves like this, it can be assumed turning into their element takes some sort of conscious effort.
Like the diner scene in the Alabasta arc, Smoker and Ace got hit physically by Luffy because they were caught off guard.
If I recall correctly, Crocodile said he had trained himself to turn into sand as a reflex. Like the diner scene in the Alabasta arc.
You don't recall correctly, and that diner scene was a gag, so you cannot really use it as evidence for anything.
You don't recall correctly, and that diner scene was a gag, so you cannot really use it as evidence for anything.
Lies. Luffy unconsciously used Haki when he slammed into them. And Nami does the same whenever beating Luffy.
Lies. Luffy unconsciously used Haki when he slammed into them. And Nami does the same whenever beating Luffy.
Exactly just like the lil girl with the ice cream. She used haki when Smoker bumped in to her at Roguetown.
smoker even knew how powerful she was so he gave her some coins to keep himself safe
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
Exactly just like the lil girl with the ice cream. She used haki when Smoker bumped in to her at Roguetown.
smoker even knew how powerful she was so he gave her some coins to keep himself safe
I laughed like hell!!
It's obvious WB wont die in marineford arc
he will die because of his age
What if he dies of his age at Marineford? :ninja:
Are you trying to jinx it Ivotas? :ninja:
Okay i was looking at this last chapter that last page kind of flow with how i see this war ending if you look closely ace is pulling luffy and mister 3 away from the battle . So i think they are going to get behind WB. Then sengoku in an effort to get ace back and save the face of the marines will get attacked by WB the two of them fight. Then WB fall onto one knee he'll tell ace about how he wanted him to be the pirate king and then tell him to take his "brothers" and get out of there. Sengoku attempts to lay the final blow when WB uses the last of his strength to cause an earthquake that destroys marine HQ. Allowing the rest of the pirates to get away.
before anyone says but their is no death in one piece he wouldn't really focus on the death but more the love he has for his crew and how did what luffy always he willing to "die for his dream"
If he dies and destroys marine HQ it set up a lot of plot lines like ace will go after one piece starting a sibling rivalry. Fishman island will be unprotected so the slave trader will run ramped allowing luffy and crew to end it for good. It leaves the marines to regroup which opens the door for revolutionaries to take advantage to no major opposing threat. It also shakes up the over all power of the world .
In closing war always changes the landscape of the world in some way
Okay i was looking at this last chapter that last page kind of flow with how i see this war ending if you look closely ace is pulling luffy and mister 3 away from the battle . So i think they are going to get behind WB. Then sengoku in an effort to get ace back and save the face of the marines will get attacked by WB the two of them fight. Then WB fall onto one knee he'll tell ace about how he wanted him to be the pirate king and then tell him to take his "brothers" and get out of there. Sengoku attempts to lay the final blow when WB uses the last of his strength to cause an earthquake that destroys marine HQ. Allowing the rest of the pirates to get away.
before anyone says but their is no death in one piece he wouldn't really focus on the death but more the love he has for his crew and how did what luffy always he willing to "die for his dream"
If he dies and destroys marine HQ it set up a lot of plot lines like ace will go after one piece starting a sibling rivalry. Fishman island will be unprotected so the slave trader will run ramped allowing luffy and crew to end it for good. It leaves the marines to regroup which opens the door for revolutionaries to take advantage to no major opposing threat. It also shakes up the over all power of the world .
In closing war always changes the landscape of the world in some way
Too troublesome, Smoker won't be chasing the SH crew… That'll suck.
Okay i was looking at this last chapter that last page kind of flow with how i see this war ending if you look closely ace is pulling luffy and mister 3 away from the battle . So i think they are going to get behind WB. Then sengoku in an effort to get ace back and save the face of the marines will get attacked by WB the two of them fight. Then WB fall onto one knee he'll tell ace about how he wanted him to be the pirate king and then tell him to take his "brothers" and get out of there. Sengoku attempts to lay the final blow when WB uses the last of his strength to cause an earthquake that destroys marine HQ. Allowing the rest of the pirates to get away.
before anyone says but their is no death in one piece he wouldn't really focus on the death but more the love he has for his crew and how did what luffy always he willing to "die for his dream"
If he dies and destroys marine HQ it set up a lot of plot lines like ace will go after one piece starting a sibling rivalry. Fishman island will be unprotected so the slave trader will run ramped allowing luffy and crew to end it for good. It leaves the marines to regroup which opens the door for revolutionaries to take advantage to no major opposing threat. It also shakes up the over all power of the world .
In closing war always changes the landscape of the world in some way
sounds possible..sure what most of us think .
sooo i have a feeling oda might do it slight differnet…he always does so :)
crazy mangaka!
...but at least the results will be like you said,..i hope
now what?? will whitebeard and the others try and escape or stay and fight marines??
i still think blackbeard or supernova will appear
you know some charactors have died in one piece…. i just can not remember at the moment wait didnt belamy die???
Seeing as oda bothered to mention the conflict that would arise if WB died I'd have to agree with him dieing. I'm just curious on what his crew will do afterwards.
join ace in the pursuit for one piece and killing BB
I think WB will die, but to show that Ace will have the potential to become a major player in finding One Piece, I don't think there'll be chaos in the regions under WB's name right now, because the WB Pirates led by Ace will take up the job of protecting the lands and the people.
just because he inherits WB crew doesn't mean he inherits the same respect that people had for WB
People have already shown respect for how powerful Ace is. Also WB isn't the only monster on that ship if Marco, Jozu, and Vista make it out of this. I think he'll have a couple of fights over people attacking the territory, but after soundly thrashing a couple of them, people will start to hold the WB pirates near the same respect. Though it will never be fully at the level of when WB was alive.
Wheel of morality turn, turn, turn.
People have already shown respect for how powerful Ace is. Also WB isn't the only monster on that ship if Marco, Jozu, and Vista make it out of this. I think he'll have a couple of fights over people attacking the territory, but after soundly thrashing a couple of them, people will start to hold the WB pirates near the same respect. Though it will never be fully at the level of when WB was alive.
IMO the first person to go after the remaining WB pirates after WB's death would be Kaidou.
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
IMO the first person to go after the remaining WB pirates after WB's death would be Kaidou.
We don't know why Kaidou wanted to stop him though. If he was after WB's head he could have made his move long before time. Only possible reason is that he saw WB heading to his death and wanted to get the honor of killing WB himself, but he could of tried anytime before that, if he thought he was ready now, why not move beforehand? I think Kaidou my have actually wanted to stop the war even if it meant delaying WB so Ace would die, so that the balance of power within the world would remain. We'll see eventually though.
Wheel of morality turn, turn, turn.
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you know some charactors have died in one piece…. i just can not remember at the moment wait didnt belamy die???
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If he was after WB's head he could have made his move long before time.
No. Wouldn't it be a perfect time to weaken or defeat your enemy when they're goal is focused on another enemy and saving a nakama? We may not know why he wanted to stop them but Shanks intercepting Kaidou tells me it sure as hell wasn't to chat about the old days while sipping sake.
Only possible reason is that he saw WB heading to his death and wanted to get the honor of killing WB himself
No. That is not the only possible reason he'd decide to fight WB then. At the time who says WB was heading to his death??? Why do you assume Kaidou wants the "honor" of killing him? Kaidou could've felt WB would have a good chance of succeeding and wanted to stop that from happening. There's more possible reasons than what you suggest.
but he could of tried anytime before that, if he thought he was ready now, why not move beforehand?
Like I've previously said he would choose now and not before because he knows WB's crew goal is to save Ace. They wouldn't be focused. They'd be bothered by the fact that most of their forces would be taken out or wounded spending time fighting Kaidou's crew and allies. That's why he'd choose now and not before when WB didn't make a move.
It also doesn't make sense to go to WB's territory to go fight him when you can fight him somewhere he's at a disadvantage or on neutral ground. You have to be smart when you choose fight your enemy. It isn't just about being ready and saying you'll go and do it whenever. You have to think about what else is going on before you make your decision. It's all apart of warfare. Gotta use the right tactics in order to be victorious or at least have the best chances of it.
I think Kaidou my have actually wanted to stop the war even if it meant delaying WB so Ace would die, so that the balance of power within the world would remain. We'll see eventually though.
I disagree.
Noone has been confirmed dead. There are those that have been implied to have died, like mr11, the alabasta guards, or Bellamy, but the same can be said for Pell, mr3 or Oars Jr (Moria said he "killed" him) and they came back no problems so I am still waiting for the first real confirmed death.
yer but charctors DO die remember zoros chiledhood friend kurina she died falling down the stairs (even tho she could be tagishi u never no) bellamy was stabed and he most sertonly died and the bandit in the first chapter got eaten but that whale shark so charctors do die just that oda likes to surprise us, and btw i think it was stated on wikipedia that mr 11 died =C
Yes people die in flashbacks (Kurina, Hiruluk,..) but not in present time, atleast not named characters. The pirate in Romance Dawn got eaten by a Sea King but Camie has also been eaten by a Sea King 20 times and she survived all of that, mr11 he got shot but a lot of people have gotten shot and survived, the point is that we have no confirmation anyone actually died.
Yes people die in flashbacks (Kurina, Hiruluk,..) but not in present time, atleast not named characters. The pirate in Romance Dawn got eaten by a Sea King but Camie has also been eaten by a Sea King 20 times and she survived all of that, mr11 he got shot but a lot of people have gotten shot and survived, the point is that we have no confirmation anyone actually died.
those soldiers from alabastra has a minute left according to chaka …so its not confirmed cuz they actually die in my eyes
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and btw i think it was stated on WIKIPEDIA that mr 11 died =C
sigh…heh heh heh!
Yes people die in flashbacks (Kurina, Hiruluk,..) but not in present time, atleast not named characters. The pirate in Romance Dawn got eaten by a Sea King but Camie has also been eaten by a Sea King 20 times and she survived all of that, mr11 he got shot but a lot of people have gotten shot and survived, the point is that we have no confirmation anyone actually died.
Moria summoned corpses from marines. That's enough for me.
