Epic man, just simply epic. Everyone rallying together to give Luffy aid. Even I was surprised Croc decided to jump in, guess even he has his honor. But what did it for me was everyone looking up as Luffy make his way to the platform like he was…well a king! If that ain't foreshadowing I don't know what is. Great chapter looking forward to Luffy facing off against Garp. Either he breaks down and lets Luffy pass him or really put a hurting on the straw hat. Either way this should be something.
Chapter 570 "Bridge of Life" Discussion
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I expect Luffy to whip out his haki, only to be outdone by Garp's mangekyo haki. But Luffy's ambition will overcome the mangekyo haki.
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Damn Luffy vs Garp? maybe Garp will fall down even before they battle, because of his age. :))
This episode sure is epic, Croc helping luffy,
Sengoku will battle Luffy.. He is not a marine Fleet Admiral for nothing
And he was called a Buddha, maybe he can enlarge his body parts like luffy's Gear third and we will see a battle of giant hands. :)) haha
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woah maybe Crocodile will form his new crew, a division of the straw hat pirates! LOL just joking, that will spoil the story.
Croc will form a new crew under StrawHat for a better military force on the New World.
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I expect Luffy to whip out his haki, only to be outdone by Garp's mangekyo haki. But Luffy's ambition will overcome the mangekyo haki.
That would be Amazing then Luffy can use his haki to guide lightening down to destroy Garp. Then Garp will reveal the final secret of the mangekyo haki, a shield in the shape of an iron fist buddha.
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If i remember correctly luffy at the end of enies lobby said he was no match for Garp and that's when they ran for it. Will he think otherwise now and fight? or try to avoid a fight again??
It would make sense if he tried to run but i doubt garp will let him, and so far Joz and Marco are unavailable to help him (I think those might be the only ones to stand some sort of chance against Garp) so who'll help him? Perhaps Ivan will.
but even if someone helps him there is still Sengoku…
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IF no one interferes (I'm thinking about Dragon), then Garp will OHKO Luffy (remember what Iva said about the last hormones boost), and when Luffy will wake up, he will be alone with Garp in a lost island where he will again be taught to fight, but now with mastering haki. The war will be ended for at least one year, Ace executed, WB dead.
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i think luffy will some how avoid fighting either of them try to grab ace and get back behind whitebeard and garp and sengoku will try to chase them and whitebeard will fight them and then with his dying breath cause earthquake that destroys marine HQ
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i think luffy will some how avoid fighting either of them try to grab ace and get back behind whitebeard and garp and sengoku will try to chase them and whitebeard will fight them and then with his dying breath cause earthquake that destroys marine HQ
Near the end, I see the same thing happening. Whitebeard's: "Try and protect it" feels like foreshadowing.
But about the rest, it feels way too simple. What happens next is really hard to predict at this moment imo.
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I have no idea whats going to happen either, just theories and hopes.
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Okay I have'nt been here for a couple of days and i have only read the chapter like 10 mins ago so i'm not sure about the general feeling about this chapter if people liked it or not. For me, from start to finish this chapter was a massive pot of melting cheese. It was really unlike One Piece.
Okay where to start? Well at the start i guess.. this 'king's haki' i don't like the idea of it and where it is bringing the story. I really suspected Shanks had it as Oda foreshadowed Shanks's 'haki' since chapter 1 but WB as well? I mean Ace said "you too?" does he have it? Garp said "so he did get it". Does Garp have it? Does Dragon? It seems inevitable Gold Roger had it now. Will BB have it? I mean soon this could turn into an exclusive 'super saiyan' club where as if you don't have 'king's ambition' you cannot be at the top unless you have this seemingly inheritary power, which will lead this story into that the strongest are fated to be at the top since they were born and you cannot get there otherwise which is not the One Piece story i know.
The most dissapointing aspect of the chapter is that Oda really got the uzi out and assasinated the hell of the personalities of a lot of characters. Why did he have Croc and Mr1 protect and help Luffy? It undermined thier 'i don't give a shit' personalities' which is why those characters are great. Is it that Croc is so impressed by Luffy running screaming and running into brick walls that he feels he must care for him now? I mean Oda spent how long creating Croc's character and then just seemed to throw it away. Same with Boa Hancock, and this is twice now for her. First the whole falling in love with Luffy which i just got over recently and now not only helping Luffy but the entire WB army because Luffy is running around screaming. Again it just seemed like her carefully crafted personality of several chapters was thrown out the window. Even WB as well. Since when does the strongest man in the world and a true monster leave it up to someone else to save his crew members never mind a kid that is'nt part of the WB pirates. Because he senses something? It just seems.. wrong.
And wow this is long. It seems to me like Oda has had enough of this arc and just wants to finish it. I personally would like to see this arc be in the closing stages as well now. I beleive he has been a victim of putting too much detail into the start of it and it was starting to become a water 7 like episode where he had too many ideas but i think he learnt from that and does'nt want to repeat it so he is hurrying an ending. I hope so because the longer Luffy is seperated from the crew and is only him the more this story is starting to become that Luffy is 'the chosen one'.
I know i'm being harsh on Oda and realise this is like one bad chapter in an otherwise fantastic story. I still trust he will continue to write a great story and have a satisfying conclusion. I my expectations are too high for One Piece.Oda is still human even if it does'nt always seem that way. Still looking forward to next week's chapter but hoping the story does'nt follow this chapter's trend.
Inuzama being in Ikanov's hair was hilarious.
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The most dissapointing aspect of the chapter is that Oda really got the uzi out and assasinated the hell of the personalities of a lot of characters. Why did he have Croc and Mr1 protect and help Luffy? It undermined thier 'i don't give a shit' personalities' which is why those characters are great. Is it that Croc is so impressed by Luffy running screaming and running into brick walls that he feels he must care for him now? I mean Oda spent how long creating Croc's character and then just seemed to throw it away.
I know where you're coming from, but I think it can be explained by Croc evidently not wanting to see WB lose/get taken out in the current way it's going down, so he decides to mess with the Marines. Certainly, it could be a Vegeta-esque turn, but I always assumed it was more complicated than that. I don't think Crocodile is particularly motivated by Luffy.
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It's actually been mentioned twice before. I looked into this a while back for some reason, I cannot remember why. Anyway, here they are:
FUCK! Now I've gone and mislead the Intergalactic Assembly of One Piece Scholars.
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Don't forget that Croc's actually a woman. Maybe he fell for Luffy's charms, ie his King haki.
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This was a great chapter! That was pretty cool that Inuzama was hiding in Iva-chan's hair. Also, liked how Crocodile and Mr. 1 helped Luffy against Mihawk. Also, I never expected for Garp to come in and get in Luffy's way. Anyways, can't wait for the next chapter! ^^
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Here's to early Monday spoilers.
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I'm getting tired of this debate.
Ambition is not a relationship that works both ways. Its a visual show of a person's determination. They have to be in countless battles and have great AMBITION and charisma and it is EARNED over the course of years and many dangers. You aren't born with it, you don't learn it naturally or by accident, it comes about because you fight and work for it. (And the phrase is more akin to "like father, like son", not "Oh, he's got those magic genetics!") To paraphrase what's been said before.
You have haki because you're at the top.
You're not at the top because you have haki.
IF no one interferes (I'm thinking about Dragon), then Garp will OHKO Luffy (remember what Iva said about the last hormones boost), and when Luffy will wake up, he will be alone with Garp in a lost island where he will again be taught to fight, but now with mastering haki. The war will be ended for at least one year, Ace executed, WB dead.
I'm glad you aren't writing this series.
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@robbybedfart:
I'm glad you aren't writing this series.
Well, Oda may be unpredictable, but I already predicted quite some big events :-)
And IF you can read, I put a big IF on that prediction, simply because I don't think it will happen, I was just making fun of people who think that Luffy really has a chance against Garp.Now about Croc' character: he was never set to be the final villain, or Luffy's best enemy. In this story he is a pirate who was once humiliated by WB and wanted to take his revenge. Now he realizes that WB is going to lose and disappear and that he is for nothing in that event. He doesn't want the marines to 1- take credit for that, and 2- humiliate WB which would in turn make him (Croc) more of a loser. Remember what he said when Squardo stabbed WB, he was disgusted to see how easily WB could be tricked.
Because of that, I don't think anymore that Croc can join BB or Doflamingo. If WB had won, yes, for sure he would have. -
I'm not sure where your scenarios differ. Are you suggesting that in the first scenario, he included everyone (IE: Camie, Pappag, Usopp, Nami, Chopper, and random slaves) in the burst, but he "had to"? And they are "serious business" for withstanding it?
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was saying.
Scenario 1 - Haki burst is like a wave, and it affects anyone and everyone caught in its blast range.
Scenario 2 - Haki burst can selectively avoid certain people.
Obviously, the two scenarios are mutually exclusive. If one is wrong, the other must be true.
I was not, however, arguing for or against either of the scenarios (if I were to argue for or against the scenarios, I'd say that Scenario 1 is unlikely in that specific situation). It's just that, to me atleast, Rayleigh's apology to the surving pirates would have made sense in both scenarios.
AND: why does WB refer to the "will of D" speaking of Luffy, if he is supposed to have the same kind of power ? Is the will of D linked to haki or to the D families ? Because WB is no D, Hancock is no D. Is Shanks a D ??? Is Rayleigh a D ???
That comment, in my opinion, should be read like the comment "It's no wonder Muhammad Ali's daughter is a good boxer."
Also, "All human beings are mammals. All mammals are not human beings."
Saul was a D - he showed no signs of being a Haki user and got easily overpowered by a then-VA Ao Kiji.
We are yet to get a full explanation of "Will of D". Or, of "D" for that matter. But it seems, that those belonging to the line of "D" have the pedigree to be great individuals with extraordinary drive and spirit.
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@Xai:
Saul was a D - he showed no signs of being a Haki user and got easily overpowered by a then-VA Ao Kiji.
I don't really have a comment on the validity of that theory, but I'm pretty sure Saul had no interest whatsoever in attacking Aokiji and just wanted Robin to get away safely.
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iam still curious why oda let saul be a D.
i mean he had the purpose to show robin that life actually could be seen as something good and that you should have fun in your life..
i see the connection to luffy…
but still thats what a D. is ?
bringing a careless lifestyle with you and do that what you believe in (he saved nico olivia cause he believed in his intuition that she isn`t a criminal)
so that a D. saved robin shows that she will be damn important for the story but still that saul was a D. is weird in my eyes...Unrevealed: Loki/Rocks/the man marked by flames/Im-san
Island: Elbaf/Raftel/GodValley
Unresolved: Weevil´s plan/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan
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@Don:
iam still curious why oda let saul be a D.
i mean he had the purpose to show robin that life actually could be seen as something good and that you should have fun in your life..
i see the connection to luffy…
but still thats what a D. is ?
bringing a careless lifestyle with you and do that what you believe in (he saved nico olivia cause he believed in his intuition that she isn`t a criminal)
so that a D. saved robin shows that she will be damn important for the story but still that saul was a D. is weird in my eyes...It might simply be the reason why Robin came to appreciate the "will of D".
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It might simply be the reason why Robin came to appreciate the "will of D".
but still sauro seems to me like the D. which is the least special or was even needed to be a D. in the story.
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@Don:
but still sauro seems to me like the D. which is the least special or was even needed to be a D. in the story.
Well wasent the reason robin saved luffy because he was also a d and robin kinda saw a similarity in their personality?So if Saul wasent a d she woudnt have had any reason to save luffy unless she wanted to stop the war.(which I dont think she did at the time)
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@Frozen:
Well wasent the reason robin saved luffy because he was also a d and robin kinda saw a similarity in their personality?So if Saul wasent a d she woudnt have had any reason to save luffy unless she wanted to stop the war.(which I dont think she did at the time)
yeah and when this was the only reason to make saul a D. than…okay i can life with it but still it seems to be a little less..
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@robbybedfart:
Ambition is not a relationship that works both ways. Its a visual show of a person's determination. They have to be in countless battles and have great AMBITION and charisma and it is EARNED over the course of years and many dangers. You aren't born with it, you don't learn it naturally or by accident, it comes about because you fight and work for it. (And the phrase is more akin to "like father, like son", not "Oh, he's got those magic genetics!")
What about Garp saying "I knew he was born with it!"
You have haki because you're at the top.
Like every amazon on AL?
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Everyone can have haki if they train like it was shown on amazon lilly, bunch of fodder girls had it and i bet most of them are only stronger the Nami and Usop imo.
So if any of the SH trains for it they can have it so no who has haki inst at the top, but knowing how to use it or having a special haki like Luffy/Hancock is or can be.
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t just their arrows modified with haki…was it said that its the haki of themselves?but well, i think on amazon lily it should be a common method to train the haki inside yourself..they know how to do it and strenght is well respected there so many of them should be able for at least a little bit.
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One thing I find interesting about this chapter re-reading it is… everyone fangasmed over Mr. 1 and Crocadile getting in the way of Mihawk... but what no one stopped to dwell on is... Mihawk himself. Earlier he said he wasn't holding back and was going to test Luffy with all of his might, but ater their brief skirmish, he attended to other things.
Now, after the blast of ambition, he's made it his absolute first priority and tried VERY hard to mow Luffy down. Not Moria or Donflamingo or Brainwashed Kuma, but Mihawk, making an immense effort to beat Luffy. Considering Mihawk's loyalty to the marines is pretty much arbitrary, I find it really interesting that he absolutley makes it a point to try and defeat Luffy now. Is he impressed? Scared? REALLY wanting to test his limits?
And how might Luffy's actually surviving and escaping again affect Mihawk's opinion after the war is over? What will he say the next time he sees Shanks?
What about Garp saying "I knew he was born with it!"
The overwhelming implication is that, Garp was a powerful man, Dragon was a powerful man, and so Luffy of course, had the potential to become a powerful man. "This kid is going to grow up strong!" isn't the same as pulling out a scouter and going "he only has a power level of 2, he'll never be worth anything!"
"Like father like son" or "blood is thicker than water" aren't quite the same thing as "he's got the secret genetics in him that guarantee he has this ability!" It has to be trained and earned, otherwise Luffy would have been accidentally doing ambition blasts all his life. He's just now earning it after countless battles and stresses, and can only do it near death.
If he'd just been a farmer, he'd never have attained it, despite who his father is.
The early mistranslations all saying it was a bloodline trait didn't help.
Like every amazon on AL?
The one isolated island that thrives on it where everyone knows what it is and everyone is a strong warrior, where strength equals beauty? Compared to the entire rest of the world to the point that Smoker associates it as specifically an amazonian trait? Exception to the rule.
And even then, only Hancock has the Emporer's ambition.
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What about Garp saying "I knew he was born with it!"
The way I figure it works is like this:
Imagine that Usain Bolt had a son. Now that son would have some of the genes that contribute to Usain being such a kickass runner. If his son doesn't train his sprinting ability however he will never be as good as a sportsman as his dad. This doesn't mean other people without famous athletes as parents can't be great athletes, they might just not have the same genetic advantages that Usain Bolt Jr. would have.
Same with Haki. There might be some genetics involved, but it's still about how determined you are as a person.
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@robbybedfart:
The overwhelming implication is that, Garp was a powerful man, Dragon was a powerful man, and so Luffy of course, had the potential to become a powerful man. "This kid is going to grow up strong!" isn't the same as pulling out a scouter and going "he only has a power level of 2, he'll never be worth anything!"
"Like father like son" or "blood is thicker than water" aren't quite the same thing as "he's got the secret genetics in him that guarantee he has this ability!" It has to be trained and earned, otherwise Luffy would have been accidentally doing ambition blasts all his life. He's just now earning it after countless battles and stresses, and can only do it near death.
If he'd just been a farmer, he'd never have attained it, despite who his father is.
Garp basically says "I knew he was born with King's Haki", and Ivankov used an expression in japanese with the word "blood" to state it came from his father, so it's undeniable that there is a bloodline component. I do hope, however, that it is as you say, that there is more to it. That working hard, having strong determination and testing yourself to your limits will play a big part in developing it.
The one isolated island that thrives on it where everyone knows what it is and everyone is a strong warrior, where strength equals beauty? Compared to the entire rest of the world to the point that Smoker associates it as specifically an amazonian trait? Exception to the rule.
You cannot say it is an exception because we don't know how it works yet. "they have haki because they're at the top" is just a theory among many at this point. We'll need to learn more to make any sort of definite claim of how it develops or can be trained.@S7evin:
The way I figure it works is like this:
Imagine that Usain Bolt had a son. Now that son would have some of the genes that contribute to Usain being such a kickass runner. If his son doesn't train his sprinting ability however he will never be as good as a sportsman as his dad. This doesn't mean other people without famous athletes as parents can't be great athletes, they might just not have the same genetic advantages that Usain Bolt Jr. would have.
Same with Haki. There might be some genetics involved, but it's still about how determined you are as a person.
I like your Usain Bolt analogy, I hope it'll work like that aswell.
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@robbybedfart:
Now, after the blast of ambition, he's made it his absolute first priority and tried VERY hard to mow Luffy down. Not Moria or Donflamingo or Brainwashed Kuma, but Mihawk, making an immense effort to beat Luffy. Considering Mihawk's loyalty to the marines is pretty much arbitrary, I find it really interesting that he absolutley makes it a point to try and defeat Luffy now. Is he impressed? Scared? REALLY wanting to test his limits?
Personally I've interpreted that scene as nothing but Luffy being in Mihawks range again rather then Mihawk hunting Luffy in that entire chaos.
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This is off topic with the chapter(sorry if you don't like the anime) but, any predictions on how many more episodes the Impel Down arc will be? That arc in the manga was 25 chapters, so somewhere around 20 episodes i'm guessing.
Like I said before, I hope it'll be a "real" fight this time and not a one-two punch someone pops in to help Luffy. Luffy vs. Garp should be at least longer then 2 pages if not a full fight. I doubt it but I expect this next chapter to another good one.
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LOL, OK i'll let you on a little secret
The letter D. that Oda keeps hiding is
! Dreams all the characters in one piece that has D. always have a Dream to fight for.
they fight for that Dream even at the cost of their lives.. :)
now is everything cleaR? :D
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You really had to hide this in a spoiler tag ???
